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it's absolutely what you need right now. absolutely scottsdale. top of the hour you're watching cnn thank you so much for being with me i'm brooke baldw baldwin, breaking news president trump is facing his first big showdown, the border wall, the mexican leader insists their nation will not be paying for. president trump just confirmed he will not be meeting with the president of mexico who by the way minutes earlier tweeted he cancelled his meeting to the
white house next week. >> this is when he was speaking to republican lawmakers on precisely this. >> i've said many times that the american people will not pay for the wall. and i've made that clear to the government of mexico. the president of mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week. unless mexico is going to treat the united states fairly, with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless, and i want to go a different route. we have no choice. >> manu raju is there where that annual retreat is taking place in philadelphia. we heard massive applause when the president was talking about mexico but we're also hearing from republicans there and i want you to tell me are they worried about this dustup between the two country's
leaders? >> reporter: some clearly are, brooke. remember most republicans on capitol hill believe there should be expanded trade though they support nafta, they believe in good relations with mexico and what they're seeing right now is the opposite donald trump coming to this retreat and blasting not just mexico but also nafta saying the trade deal was quote a terrible trade deal. also about the relationship between the new president and our one of our biggest trading partners to the south of us, earlier today the republican leadership hadn't came and addressed reporters, i asked them specifically about donald trump's growing frud wieud witho and whether they are concerned whether donald trump should tone down his rhetoric.
>> i don't have any advice for the president, we are moving ahead as the speaker pointed out with roughly. >> dwe12 to 15. >> yeah, 12 to $15 billion and we intend to address with the -- ourselves and the president can deal with the president an that issue and other issues. >> reporter: and then i asked the follow-up are you concerned about the relationship between the u.s. and mexico and he said quote i think we'll be fine. interestfully enough of putting that price tag of 12 billion to $15 billion for the wall. and something that donald trump came in earlier an said that the u.s. will not pay for the wall but as we now is that the tax
pa payers are pay for it up front and may be dealt with the brunt of it. >> the u.s. has a $60 billion trade deficit with mexico, it's been a one sided deal, if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall then it would be better to cancel the up comicom coming meeting. let's get the reaction from mexico. layla santiago is there. how are the mexicans reacting? >> reporter: i'm at the angel of independence here, consider it something like the washington monument or lincoln memorial. this is where a lot of protests
and rallies occur and where i have spoken to some mexicans here. i actually spoke to one family who was not aware of this sort of back and forth from this morning and when i told them that president enrique pena nieto, you could sort of see this sense of pride when he said he would not go to the meeting that this sense of pride had been restored that someone was standing up for mexico so that was interesting since really last night since president pena nieto posted nearly a three minute video on twitter saying look, i don't believe this walls, i'm certainly not going to pay for one but i do believe in friendship. the other thing that came was the foreign minister who by the way is new and also in washington d.c. as we speak in
the middle of meetings with top officials from the white house administration, he said look, every country has a right to build a wall. you want to build a wall, that's fine, asking us to pay for it, that's a different story. that's really what we've seen mexicans sort of taking offense. there doesn't seem to be opposition from government officials on the wall, it's the idea that they would have the pay for it that seems to question their dignity and having them stand up for their own interests especially when you have a former mexican president really calling on the president to stand his ground. >> yep. >> reporter: and senators as well. layla, thank you in mexico city, we were looking at pictures of president trump he's already home. hopping off air force one and presumably heading back to the white house after attending that
retreat with republicans in fill donald trump not only criticized mexico when he just spoke at the lawmaker retreat, this is what he said about nafta. >> nafta has been a terrible deal, a total disaster for the united states from its inception, costing us as much as $60 billion a year with mexico alone in trade deficits. you say who negotiates these deals? >> with me now one of the people president trump was referring to there former ambassador to mexico james jones helped negotiate nafta. also a former oklahoma congressman, mr. ambassador thanks for joining me. >> thank you very much, good to be with you. >> as we look at these pictures of the president heading on to marine one, the floor is yours, a chance to respond to
president's criticism. >> i look at this from the standpoint of an american who wants to do what's right for america and this is the dumbest approach of trying to preserve jobs and build jobs in the united states. it is a backward approach in terms of successful diplomacy. ronald reagan didn't get agreements with the soviet union that ultimately led to the end of the cold war by insulting them. and what's happened here by tweets coampaign-type tweets th president has insulted and disrespected another sovereign nation and their only response was to cancel the proposed meeting set next week, i think that was very short sided and the fact in a we are losing $60 billion a year this trade are simply not supported in fact. >> not true is what you're
saying? >> not true. we have had times some years where we had a purr plus wisurp where we had a deficit. one fact is that 6 million jobs depend on trade with mexico and those jobs on average pay 15 to 18% more in wages than just domestic trade. and another fact is that -- well, what i'm trying to get at is that we are shooting ourselves in the foot by insulting a neighbor. as far as the wall is concerned, that is no big deal. >> building the wall? let me make sure, building the wall is not a big deal, paying 15 billion no big deal? >> i wonder what it is going to
do? it is not going to stop illegal immigration as some people say it would. a much smarter approach to protecting our borders electronic and other ways is the way to do it. as far as mexico is concerned, they don't mind if we build a wall, they're not going to interior fear with it. >> how does the fact that the mexican president will not be heading to the white house, where is it in the art of the deal where the other side president pena nieto doesn't even come to the table? >> once the gauntlet was laid down on a unilateral basis president pena nieto had no choice but to cancel the meeting and now if we're going to get it back on track that's going to require more behind the scenes negotiations. i think it is important that we get it back on track, that we
start talking about our trade relationship because it does mean jobs in the united states and we have to get -- start improving nafta. nafta is a 25-year-old or so treaty, it has been very successful in terms of what it accomplished but it's besiehinde scenes, when it was formed we didn't have cell phones or a whole other range of tech nothing and that kind of intellectual property needs to be done. >> forgive me sir, you heard what the president said, then the whole piece of american t taxpayers paying the $15 billion and then mexico saying essentially hell no, we're not reimbursing you, is there any
scenario in your mind where the wall is built and it's paid for by mexico? >> the only thing i can see is the notorious gus mamand that's been sent to the united states. i don't think you would see a lot of objections out of mexico on something like that, however i think we ought to separate this wall of business. that was a good campaign issue, it drew the au plaus applause, campaign is over, we ought to be involved in diplomacy. >> well, he says he's building the wall in a couple of months and house speaker paul ryan says $15 billion, it's a go. >> well, in terms of the southern bored the u.s. southern border there does need to be some improvements in the security of that and that can be
done and i think that's probably what they're going to do is to have a combination of physical structures and electronic structures that will improve our security. but i think we ought to separate this wall business from the trade business. the trade business is much more important to us than the wall is. let's negotiate them both on their separate terms. >> okay. ambassador james jones, you would know. you would know. thank you, sir, very much. >> thank you. >> next, republicans used to criticize a former president obama for signing his executive actions so how do they feel and president trump in the fist couple of days and his executive actions and also saying she will stand up to president trump teresa may says she will address president trump. what sort of words does she have
we've just gotten in some video. we know of course the president has just landed after heading to philadelphia here after they landed the trump administration allowed press -- can i stop talking and we just listen for a second? >> doing good, thank you. beautiful. great plane. really beautiful. nice plane. [ inaudible question ] >> i did, yeah. terrific. >> all right, guys, thank you very much. >> you know, that's a good one
too, but this is a very special plane. >> thanks, guys, very much. >> they just gave me that. pretty cool jacket, right? >> okay, so that's what we got. little glimpse into air force one. i have bill press and senator santorum with me. let me begin with senator santorum, i don't see any reagan jelly beans but also noticed the tv was on, i heard a commercial, are you going to get an invite on that plane any time soon, sir? >> i've been on air force one a few times and it's a very special place, look, i'm excited for donald trump. he's taken on the first few days with a lot of vigor, trying to
keep his campaign promises, even the tough ones with mexico the idea that he would somehow back off his campaign promise a rather major one is silly to expect and the folks who voted for him for sure and a lot of other americans like the fact that we have a president out there scrapping for what he said he would do. >> following through is huge and he absolutely appears to be following through on this wall. we heard the price tag is somewhere in the $15 billion neighborhood. paul ryan who knows a thing or two about budgets and pinching pennies gives it a stamp of approval, where does the money, senator santorum come from? how extensive will this be? >> i've heard anywhere from 10 to $15 billion, but there's a
statute in place that says we're going to build this wall. i voted for it back in 2006 and was a strong supporter of it. i think most people say that it will in fact improve our security and redruce the number of people coming into the southern part of the united states. there are fronts appropriated in the past, i know the obama administration was not for constructing the wall, donald trump is and i think there are funds in congress to fund it. >> i don't know if you were lispi listening to my conversation, maybe if mexico won't be reimbursing it maybe the mexican drug lord guzman proceeds would
reimburse it. >> i've been on air force one, but it's very, very rare for the media, unlike u.s. senators for the media to get invited in. look, i don't mean to shock anybody, i do not believe in the tooth fairy, mexico is not going to pay for this wall, if you believe that, you don't believe in the tooth fairy, donald trump has gone from the wall and mexico pay for it to now we're going to wall and we're going to pay for it as a business man he would never make a deal like this on the promise that somebody else would reimburse him. it is idiotic to believe that's going to happen and for republican senators to say, house and senate to say we'll go along with this plan, right, these are the people who demanded offsets some of them
before they would pay for states of damage of hurricane sandy, and now they're going to blow $15 billion far wall? this is 19th century technology for a 21st century problem. >> there's a difference not in our budget and actually putting in money that's in the budget to construct the wall. >> it's 15 billion senator. >> by the way, the fact -- >> how does it work if he says we're build it in a couple of months. >> yeah, he says we're going to build it now. >> i don't know if you're going to be able to spend $15 billion and build a wall but the fact of the matter is it will probably make a few years and there are other ways for mexico to pay for this and i think donald trump is putting things on the table
right now whether it's a trade route, national security. we have relationships from a national security standpoint. so there are ways without them writing a check for it. >> can i say something to that? again we are being fast and loose with $15 billion. but i would to remind you and everybody else meskxico is a sovereign nation, there's no way we can force them to pay for the wall. and they're such an important trading partner in counterterrorism and the drug traffic and all that that we've got more important things to work with mexico with than by embarrassing them that if you don't pay for this wall we're going to cancel our meeting with you. >> i would say that mexico has the responsibility to police that border, make sure it is safe make sure there aren't
crossings that are illegal and they haven't done a good job at that and so there's a lot of things we could do that could offset the cost of building the wall for the border. >> thank you. it was nice to have access to air force one for the press. theresa may will stand up to president when she has to. the prime minister will be speaking momentarily. we will take it live. you're watching cnn.
welcome back, you're watching cnn i'm brooke baldwin, live pictures from philadelphia. we are waiting for the closest ally to the united states prime minister teresa may from britain will be speaking here in philadelphia. she is the first foreign leader to meet with president trump upon his taking office and first foreign serving leader to speak at this conference but a friendly two-day visit comes with tough questions who has already been confronted on some of the core policies shared namely on the use of torture and climate change. i have christiane amanpour with me. >> what do you expect?
>> this was going to be a wonderful meeting, basking in the -- with the president. trying to get this deal between the uk and the u.s., and the brexit negotiations, it would really burnish her credentials, although her visit is very much overshadowed by what's just happened when the u.s. and mexico and the war and the wall and who is going to pay for it and plus she's going to have to on behalf of her own country, challenge or advice the president not to bring back torture, or black sites all the things he's been saying and tweeting over the last 24 hours
are things she's going to have to deal with, but will obviously get a very good boost from this meeting. >> what has the prhe said to the minister? >> he asked her to you know really use that position as the prime minister as the closest transatlantic ally to try to temper donald trump, he's never done this before and because of his words about nato, about supporting the breakup, the further breakup of the eu. >> nigel fraj is not somebody thought by well of the out gogo obama administration. so to help the new president
along in matters that are very important between the united states and europe and other alliances they have. >> we hang on his every word and her every word and her also realizing some of crit similicim some of his recent words, what can we expect for her? >> i think we're going to stee the typical teresa may. she's robust and not easily swayed. if she's asked about torture, she will say we the united kingdom do not believe in any type of inhumane treatment. she has no choice, it's the law, what they believe over there and to be very frank, people are hoping maybe she will help him walk some of that back. >> do they? >> yeah, because why not?
it's a world leader that's going to be meeting with a new u.s. president. she was home secretary for six years, she was in charge of the whole terrorism, and all that, has been in the trenches of that the last six years, plus it will be very, very difficult for britain or its allies to do business with the united states if the u.s. goes into extra illegal maneuvers such as black sites or torture, it was already an issue under president bush and threatens to become a persisting issue if this persists. >> any minute the british prime minister will be speaking, we're going to take you there live as
the first head of government to address this important conference is an honor indeed. i defy any person who travel to this great country at any time and not to be inspired by its promise and its example. for more than two centuries, the very idea of america drawn from history and given written form in a small hole not far from here has lit up the world. that idea that all are created equal and that all are born free has never been surpassed in the history of political thought. [ applause ] >> and it is here on the streets
and in the halls of this great city of philadelphia that the founding fathers first set it down that the textbook of freedom was written and that this great nation that grew from sea to shining sea was born. since that day, it has been america's destiny to bare the leadership of the free world and to carry that heavy responsibility on its shoulders. but my country, the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland has been proud to share that burden and to walk alongside you at every stage. [ applause ]
>> for the past century, britain and america and the unique and special relationship that exists between us, have taken the idea conceived by those 56 rank and file ordinary citizens as president reagan called them -- it is the relationship between us that has defined the modern world. 100 years ago this april, it was the innovation in the first world war and other allies to maintain freedom in europe. [ applause ] >> a little more than 75 years ago you respond today the japanese attack on pearl harbor by joining britain this the second world war and defeating
fascism not just in the pacific but in africa and in europe too. [ applause ] >> and later in the aftermath of these wars our two countries led the west through the cold war, confronting communism and ultimately defeating it, not just through military might but by winning the war of ideas and by proving that open liberal democratic societies will always defeat those that are closed, coercive and cruel. [ applause ] >> but the leadership provided by our two countries through the special relationship has done more than win wars and over come adversity. it made the modern world.
the struinstitutions upon whicht world was inspired was by our two nations working together. the united nations in need of reform but vital still has its foundations in the relationship in the original declaration of saint james's palace by signed in washington and drafted themselves by president churchill and -- nato the cornerstone of the west's defense was established on the bonds of trust and mutual interests that exist between us. some of these organizations are in need of reform and renewal to make them relevant to your needs today but we should be proud of the role our two nations working
in partnership played in bringing them into being and in bringing peace and prosperity to billions of people as a result [ applause ] >> because it is through our actions over many years working together to defeat evil or to open up the world that we have been able to fulfill the promise of those who first spoke of the special nature of the relationship between us. the promise of freedom, liberty and the rights of man. we must never cease churchill said to proclaim in fearless tones the great principals of freedoms and to the rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the english speaking world and through the bill of rights, habeas corpus, trial by jury and the english
common law find in the declaration of independence. [ applause ] >> so it is my honor and privilege to stand before you today in this great city of philadelphia to proclaim them again to join hands as we pick up that mantle of leadership once more, to renew our special relationship and to recommit ourselves to the responsibility of leadership in the modern world and it is my honor and privilege to do so at this time as dawn breaks on a new era of american renewal. for i speak to you not just as prime minister of the united kingdom but as a fellow conservative who believes under the same principals the agenda of your party, the value of liberty, the dignity of work,
the principals of nationhood, family, economic prudence, patriotism and putting power in the hands of the people. principals instilled in me from a young age, my parents taught me in england in which i was raised and i know it was these principals that you put at the heart of your government an your victory at these elections gives you the opportunity to put them at the heart of this new american americ american era too. in the hopes and aspirations of working men and women across this land, your party's victory in both the congress and the senate where you sweat all before you secured with great effort and achieved with an
important message of national renewal. and because of this, because of what you have done together because of that great victory you have won, america can be stronger, greater and more confident in the years ahead. [ applause ] >> and a newly emboldened confident america is good for the world. an america strong and prosperous at home is a nation that can lead abroad, but you cannot and should not do so alone. you have said that it is time for others to step up and i agree. sovereign countries cannot outsource their security and prosperity to america and they should not under mine the alliances that keep us strong by failing to step up and play
their part. [ applause ] >> this is something britain has always understood, it's why britain is the only country in the d20 other than you'rs to spend -- [ applause ] >> it is why great britain in the g20 -- why the first act as prime minister last year, the nuclear deterrent and why the government i lead will increase spending on defense every year in this parliament. [ applause ] >> it is why britain is a leading member along side the united states of the coalition
working successfully to defeat dash, as part of nato's eastern forward in europe, to defend the afghan government from terrorism and reinforcing peacekeeping operations south sudan and somal somalia, why britain is leading the way in pioneering international efforts to crack down on modern slavery one of the great scourges our country has ever found. >> [ applause ] >> i hope you will join us in that cause and i commend senator corker in particular for his work in the field and it is good to have met him here today. as americans know the united
kingdom by instinct recognizes its responsibilities to the world and as we end our -- to the european union and voted with quiet resolve to do last year we have the opportunity to reassert our belief in a confident sovereign and global britain ready to build relationships with old friends and new allies alike. we will build a new partnership with our friends in europe. we're not turning our back on them or on the interests and the values that we share. it remains overwhelmingly in our interests and in those to have wider world that the eu should succeed and for as long as we remain members we will continue to play our full part just as we will continue to cooperate on security, foreign policy and trade once we have left. but we have chosen a different
future for our in internationalist in spirit. a future that sees us take back control of things that matterto us. things like our national borders and immigration policy and the way we decide and interpret our own laws. so that we are able to shape a better, more prosperous future for the working men and women of britain. a future that sees us step up with confidence, to a new even more internationalist r0ole whee we meet responsibilities to friends and allies. cooperation and partnerships that project our values around the world. and continue to act as one of
the strongest and most forceful advocates for business, free markets, and free trade anywhere around the globe. this is a vision of a future that my country can unite around, and that i hope your country as our closest friend and ally can welcome and support. so, as we rediscover our confidence together, as you renew your nation just as we renew ours, we have the opportunity, indeed the responsibility to renew the special relationship for this new age. we have the opportunity to lead together again, because the world is parsing through a period of change. and in response to that change, we can either be passive bystanders or we can take the opportunity once more to lead and to lead together. i believe it is in our national
interest to do so, because the world is increasingly marked by instability and threats that risk undermining our way of life, and the very things that we hold dear. the end of the cold war did not give rise to a new world order. it did not herald the end of history. it did not lead to a new age of peace, prosperity and predict ability in world affairs. for some, the citizens of central and eastern europe in particular, it brought new freedom. but across the world, ancient ethnic religious and national rivalries, rivalries that had been frozen through the decades of the cold war returned. new enemies of the west and our values, in particular in the form of radical islamists, have emerged. [ applause ] and countries with little tradition of democracy, liberty and human rights, notably china
and russia, have grown more assertive in world affairs. the rise of the asian economies, china yes, but democratic allies like india, too, is hugely welcome. billions are being lifted out of poverty and new markets for industries are opening up. but these events, coming as they have at the same time as the financial crisis and its fall out, as well as a loss of confidence in the west following 9/11 and difficult military interventions in iraq and afghanistan, have led many to fear that in this century we will experience the eclipse of the west. but there is nothing inevitable about that. other countries may grow stronger. big populist countries may grow richer. and as they do so, they may start to embrace more fully our values of democracy and liberty. but even if they do not, our interests will remain. our values will endure.
and the need to defend them and project them will be as important as ever. so, we, our two countries together, have a responsibility to lead, because when others step up as we step back, it is bad for america, for britain and the world. [ applause ] it is in our interests, those of britain and america together, to stand strong together, to defend our values, our interests, and the very ideas in which we believe. this cannot mean a return to the failed policies of the past. the days of britain and america intervening in sovereign countries in an attempt to remake the world in our own image are over. but nor can we afford to stand
idly by when the threat is real and when it is in our own interests to intervene. we must be strong, smart, and hard headed, and we must demonstrate the resolve necessary to stand up for our interests. and whether it is the security of israel in the middle east or the ball tick states in eastern europe, we must also stand up for our friends and allies in democratic countries that find themselves in tough neighborhoods, too. [ applause ] we each have different political traditions. we will sometimes pursue different domestic policies and there may be occasions on which we disagree. but the common values and interests that bring us together are hugely powerful.
and as your foremost friend and ally, we support many of the priorities your government has laid out, america's engagement with the world. it is why i join you in your determination to take on and defeat dash and the ideology of islamist extremism that inspires them and many other terrorist groups in the world today. it is in both our national interests to do so. this will require us to use the intelligence provided by the finest security agencies in the world, and it will require the use of military might. but it also demands a wider effort, because one of the lessons of fighting terrorism in the last 15 years or so is, yes, killing terrorists can save innocent lives, but until we kill the idea that drives them, the ideology, we will always have to live with this threat. and as --
[ applause ] as they are defeated on the ground, the terrorists are exploiting the internet and social media to spread this ideology that is preying on vulnerable citizens in our own countries, inspiring them to commit acts of terror in our own cities. that is why the uk has led the world in developing a strategy for preventing violent extremism and why the british and american governments are working together to take on and defeat the ideology of islamist extremism. i look forward to working with the president and his administration to step up our efforts still further in order to defeat this evil ideology. but, of course, we should always be careful to distinguish between this extreme and hateful ideology and the peaceful religion of islam and the hundreds of millions of its a
adherents including our own country, the victims of this ideology's terror. nor is it enough merely to focus on violent extremism. we need to address the whole spectrum of extremism, starting with the bigotry and hatred that can so often turn to violence. yet ultimately to defeat dash, we must employ all of the diplomatic means at our disposal. that means working internationally to secure a political solution in syria and challenging the alliance between the syrian regime and its backers in tehran. when it comes to russia, as so often it is wise to turn to the example of president reagan who during his negotiations with his opposite member mikhail gorbachev used to abide by the adage trust but verify.
>> you're listening to british p.m. theresa may speaking at the republican retreat in philadelphia. i'm brook baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. we're going to send it to washington with special coverage right now with jake tapper. >> thanks, brook. they are divided even without a wall. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, now we know how president trump plans to make mexico pay for his border wall, as mexico's president plays hardball. actions or words? president trump issuing a pile of executive orders as fast as he can sign them including one addressing his bogus voter fraud claims. but do these executive orders have teeth or are they essentially glorified press releases? plus, krout breoutbreak of nearly eradicated in the u.s. what is causing so many americans to come down with mumps and how alarmed should we be?