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p.m. theresa may speaking at the republican retreat in philadelphia. i'm brook baldwin. thank you so much for being with me. we're going to send it to washington with special coverage right now with jake tapper. >> thanks, brook. they are divided even without a wall. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, now we know how president trump plans to make mexico pay for his border wall, as mexico's president plays hardball. actions or words? president trump issuing a pile of executive orders as fast as he can sign them including one addressing his bogus voter fraud claims. but do these executive orders have teeth or are they essentially glorified press releases? plus, krout breoutbreak of nearly eradicated in the u.s. what is causing so many americans to come down with mumps and how alarmed should we be? good afternoon, everyone, welcome to "the lead."
i'm jake tapper. any moment we're expecting president trump to sign into action more executive orders including a follow-up to that basele baseless claim that millions of votes were illegally cast in the 2016 election. a breach with a key trading partner south of the border, today mexico's president canceled a planned meeting with president trump, a protest over president trump's insistence that mexico pay for a border wall between the two countries. as the president forges ahead on the wall and other policy priorities today, he addressed the group that will decide which of these goals will become law first and how much funding it will get. that's republicans in congress, of course. cnn rorl cnn reporters across the hemisphere covering trump and the uproar between the u.s. and its southern neighbor. we'll begin with jim accosta in the great city of philadelphia. the president spoke to members of congress who are at a retreat. jim, the white house just announced how the president wants to get mexico to pay for the wall.
tell us about it. >> that's right, jake. white house press secretary sean spicer told reporters that president trump does indeed have a plan to make mexico reimburse u.s. taxpayers for the cost of that wall on the border and that is by imposing a 20% tax on mexican imports. that is sure to continue to raise tensions between the u.s. and mexico another reminder that walls come with consequences. just as president trump stepped off his maiden voyage as kmapder in chief on air force one he landed in his first diplomatic controversy and for a change all eyes weren't on his twitter feed but on the tweets coming from mexican president enrique pena nieto who announced in blunt trump fashion he informed the white house he will not be attending the meeting scheduled next week with the new american president, a plan for trump's plan for a massive new wall on the border. >> translator: mexico does not believe in walls. i have said time and again mexico will not pay for any
wall. >> mr. trump all but invited pena nieto to scrap the trip. tweeting if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall tlen it would be bet tore cancel the upcoming meeting. >> sit down, everybody. let's enjoy our self. >> at a gop leader meeting in philadelphia the decision to cancel was mutual. >> the president of mexico and myself have agreed to cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week. unless mexico is going to treat the united states fairly with respect, such a meeting would be fruitless. >> and he touted another part of his immigration plan, the swift removal of undocumented criminals. >> they're going to be gone, fast. >> top republicans in congress are examining ways to pay for the wall which comes with an estimated price tag of at least $12 billion. >> we intend to address the wall issue ourselves, and the president can deal with his relations with other countries
on that issue and other issues. >> house speaker paul ryan's advice to republicans, buckle up. >> this is going to be an unconventional presidency. i think you know this by now, case i. i think we're going to see unconventional activities like tweets and things like that, i think it's something we're all going to have to get used to. >> while republican leaders are following the president's path on mexico they are flat out rejecting his latest defense of the use of torture on terror suspects. >> i believe all of my members are comfortable with the state of the law on that issue now. >> and torture is illegal? >> it is not legal and we agree with it not being legal. >> the president warned his party he is not backing down. both overseas and on the streets of u.s. cities. >> you look at chicago. what's going on in chicago? i said the other day, what the hell is going on? that is why we will continue to stand with the incredible men and women of law enforcement.
>> and while president trump won't be welcoming enrique pena nieto to the white house next week he will be sitting down with british prime minister theresa may. they are scheduled to hold a news conference. it will be a first with president trump with a major foreign leader at the white house, jake. and despite the special relationship between the u.s. and the uk, i think it's pretty safe to say most of those questions tomorrow will be about that wall. jake? >> all right, jim accosta, thank you so much. now to our world lead, the mexican peso has lost 13% of its vol yu since president trump won the election. it full further today after the mexican president canceled the meeting. leila joins us from mexico city. what is president pena nieto thinking here? why not have a meeting with the new american president? >> i think it's because a loftd his people, senators, past presidents have called on him to stand his ground, to as many
have said here, have some dignity and restore respect in this new relationship with the new administration. you know, i am actually right now at the angel of independence. think of it as washington monument. sort of the center of the city, and as i have talked to people here that's been what i'm hearing. people saying, good, good for him for standing his ground because remember in august when he invited president trump, then presidential candidate trump, it didn't go over so well with a lot of people here in mexico given some of the controversial remarks that trump said and his insistence on building that wall. and right now president pena nieto, his approval rating is not too high. i think this could be a way of standing his ground as mexico city has called for, as mexico has called for, and it may be a way of sort of restoring his legacy of maybe boosting his own approval ratings with this new relationship with the u.s. >> but, of course, the peso, the value of the peso continues to fall.
and this breach between the two countries, it could have a really gigantic economic effect on both sides of the border. >> every single time i talk to some sort of government official, that is a big talking point, one of the first things they mention. and it's because they're really worried about nafta and the economy and now a possible 20% tax. picture this real quick. $1.5 billion in goods go across that border every single day. and now if you take away nafta, if you add a 20% border tax, what could that do to the goods coming in? 80% of mexican exports end up in the u.s. a good chunk of those automobiles. this could be something the consumer may have to deal with later. >> all right, leila santiago in mexico city, thank you so much. the white house has still not provided any evidence backing up the president's uncorroborated insistence that 3 to 5 million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election.
secretaries of state who regulate elections all over the country have weighed in on the bizarre claim every single one of them saying they found no evidence of widespread fraud. the tennessee secretary of state did say there were instances of voter fraud in the volunteer state in 2016. 42 cases to be precise. that's out of 4.3 million primary and general election votes. that's a fraud rate of just .0009%. and just moments from now the president will sign an executive order that the feds may not be able to ignore no matter how untethered to reality the president's assertion. pamela brown joins me now. how is the justice department reacting to this call for investigation even though there is no evidence of any wrongdoing? >> so, officially, jake, no comment from the justice department. but i've spoken to officials within the department and simply they're perplexed here. they're looking for more clarity. there is no evidence. voter fraud investigations are triggered when the fbi discover
credible evidence to suggest fraud not because of an order from the president. d.o.j. after all is an independent agency that is supposed to be a political. how will the attorney general respond to this? but today president trump is expected to sign this executive order at 4:30 to launch this voter fraud investigation and he declared to republican congressional leadership today it's necessary to protect the ballot box to back up his claim. he also points to the pew research study once again from 2012 that concluded millions of voters registrations across the u.s. are inaccurate and no longer valid but shows no evidence of widespread fraud. here's what he told abc's david muir about t. >> you say you're going to launch an investigation. >> sure, done: >> what you have presented so far has been debunked, it's been called false. >> take a look at the pew reports. >> i called the author last night. he told me they found no evident -- >> really why did he write the reporter -- excuse me, why did he write the report? according to pew report, he's
groveling again. i talk about the reporters that grovel when they write something you want to hear but not necessarily millions of people want to hear or have to hear. >> so you launched an investigation? >> we're going to launch an investigation to find out and then the next time -- and i will say this. of those votes cast, none of them come to me. none of them come to me. they would all be for the other side. none of them come to me. but when you look at the people that are registered, dead, illegal, and two states and some cases maybe three states, we have a lot to look into. >> so, the pew research author has repeatedly been on our air and he says the report, the purpose of it was not to show evidence of widespread voter fraud. he said theres a big leap between an out of date record or administrative inefficiency which was in this report from pew from 2012, and an active voter fraud. so, simply, jake, he's saying there is a big difference here. we're not saying there is a fraud because you have dead people on the registry. >> it was outdated rolls, not
fraud. steve bannon his top aid, steve manu chin, jared kushner, all registered in more than one state. not an example of fraud. >> intent, right. one state not communicating with the other state. >> mr. trump just said something about his supreme court pick? >> that's right. in fact he told sean hannity at fox news more what his thinking is behind his supreme court nominee he's going to announce on thursday. here's what he said. >> will it be from the list that you gave out during the campaign? >> the answer is yes. >> will it be an originalist? >> i don't want to say. you'll see on thursday. >> have you made your decision? >> i have made my decision pretty much in my mind. it's subject to change at the last moment, but i think this will be a great choice. >> and we have learned from our sources that there are four people in the running currently judges psychs, prider man and gor sich. he is leading the pack. we'll wait for the announcement on thursday.
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welcome back to "the lead." staying with our politics lead, when president barack obama took office eight years ago, one of his very first moves was to sign an executive to order, call tty: 1-800-544-3316ing -- ordering the closure of the guantanamo bay. quit mow still open. new president trump is signing executive orders assigning his own legislative orders. how many will result in policy changes? cnn sun land joins us. do these executive orders have teeth or are they essentially symbolic of where the president wants to take the nation? >> jake, that is certainly the big question, and based on our review, it seems to be a little bit of both. there is some substance here, but there also is some symbolism as well.
let's breakdown a few of these executive actions on the president's obamacare order. this is a place where there still is a lot of confusion about how it affects the law. the order gives a broad mandate for heads of agencies to, quote, minimize the economic burden of obamacare, but importantly it does not specify any single action that would be taken. now, on the building the wall on the u.s.-mexico border, this dozen volks several federal statutes which is important when we're talking about this here. but legal experts say the reason the president can't just say i'm going to go build the wall is that the constitution says that only congress can decide to appropriate the money. now, drawing from the trans-pacific partnership, this was largely a symbolic move. the measure was never ratified t. never received a vote in congress so this required absolutely no action on the part of the president to withdraw. there is also the big question here about the legality of all of these executive actions and legal experts specify in this
that we spoke to today said it really comes down to this issue. first and foremost, these executive actions, they have to have some root in some sort of statute or in the constitution. and these legal experts that we spoke to reviewing these executive actions, they say that it looks likely that the ones he had signed so far are largely within his rights. but, jake, that does not mean they won't be challenged later on. >> all right. sun land, president trump's chief white house strategist steve bannon just gave an interview with the new york times calling the new york times and all the rest of us irrelevant? >> yeah, this was a very interesting interview certainly by one of president trump's closest aides. one who is known to be very combative in his approach to the media. this interview with the new york times, no exception. he says, quote, the media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while. he later goes on to say the media is the opposition party. they don't under this country.
they still do not understand why donald trump is the president of the united states. and just underscoring there one thing the media the opposition party struck me. certainly there is a little bit of irony here that steve bannon is going before the new york times, one of the big traditional outlets of old media, so to speak. he's using this newspaper to make this point to label the media as the opposition party. jake? >> yeah, ironic is one word for it. thank you so much. appreciate it. joining me now is former presidential candidate evan mcmullen. good to see you again. >> great to be with you. >> do you want to respond to mr. ban an had to say about the media? >> i think mr. ban an and mr. trump's attacks on the media are highly dangerous. the media, the press plays a significant role in our democracy and in any democracy. they are absolutely critical. and you can have disputes and disagreements over bias and even over points of fact, but to continually attack and try to erode the credibility of the
media when it's doing its job and doing its job well, i would say, in the past week especially challenging trump, i think is dangerous. and that's why i and my running mate from the campaign mindy fin, we have established and launched a new organization called stand up republic to help protect our democratic institutions and this is part of it. >> small d democratic. >> yes, that's right. we're conservative you know what, jake, this isn't a republican democrat conservative liberal progressive sort of issue. the protection, our freedom of the press and importance of the press in our system, the importance of the constitution, the importance of truth, for heaven sakes in democracy and in our republic, are issues that should be bipartisan or nonpartisan. these are things we should all be able to rally around and protect as americans. and the time has come in this country when we do that. and, so, that's what stand up
republic is intended to do. we're going to be working very hard to establish and grow a grassroots movement across the country that will be able to protect our fundamental ideals and our institutions. >> you know what's interesting, i have a lot of facebook friends who are conservatives as well as liberals and the conservatives i've been reading a lot of their posts, and they seem very, very confused about what to believe any more. so, i think that this idea that the president and his top aides are waging war on the media is a strategy to make it clear that in their view you can only believe one person and that's donald trump, and you can't believe any of these other sources of information. >> well, that's exactly right. and this is what authoritarians or leaders with authoritarian tendencies do. it's from the play book that they use. donald trump through the past year has said he admires
dictators and authoritarians from around the world. they attack the press because they want to undermine any other sources of information so that people start to believe that only the authoritarian can be the source of information because if authoritarians are able to do that, if leaders are able to undermine every other source of information, source of facts and truth, no one can hold them accountable and their power as a result grows. we as the population start to become more divided because these leaders will tend to want to divide us and then feed us lies about each other and we saw donald trump do that through the campaign. and he continues to do it until today. >> i want your former cia officer, i want to get your view on some things that the president said last night in his interview with abc about the intelligence agency. the first is his description of his speech and his first day in office at cia headquarters. take a listen. >> that speech was a home run.
that speech, if you look at fox, okay -- i'll mention -- read -- see what fox said. they said it was one of the great speeches. you and other networks covered it very inaccurately. i hate to say this to you and you probably won't put it on, but turn on fox and see how it was covered. you and a couple of other networks tried to downplay that speech and it was very, very unfortunate that you did. >> you served ten years covering the cia, the 117 stars on the memorial wall behind president trump when they spoke there. they might not be anonymous names to you. i don't know. what are your friends who are still in the agency, what is their reaction to that speech and also just in general president trump's attitude towards intelligence? >> well, they are first and foremost concerned about the national security of the country. they see a new president that wants to align our country or he's going to align his administration with the very foreign adversary that is
attacking our democracy. >> russia. >> yeah, russia. this is unimaginable that we would have a president that would do this. and it's highly concerning, should be for all americans, but it certainly is for them. this is really the crux of their tension with him. it's not about personalities or anything like that. they're concerned about his -- what he means for the national security of our country as president. >> they don't care about his speech, they're more focused on his attitude? >> they're focused on his policies and his posture vis-a-vis putin. the symbolism of the speech was too great to ignore. here he is standing before a wall of stars marking the ultimate sacrifices of americans around the world, defending our interests, in the worst possible conditions. and he spent most of that time talking about himself, propagating falsehoods in the process. that's who donald trump is. he will not -- he's not somebody who has sacrificed for this country. he's somebody who attacks people who sacrifice for this country.
>> and what about his view that torture works? he said he was told by many intelligence leaders torture works. he also said he would defer to general mattis and cia director pompeo on the matter. what happens' your experience? >> well, look, i'll say -- i was never involved in the water boarding or anything like that at the agency. that wasn't my job. i was in the field operating carrying out operations against terrorists in the field mostly. but i will tell you that this debate about whether torture works or not, that is a debate that people have. but it misses the point. torture is wrong. it's against the law. it's not what we should be doing whether it works or not. and to have an american president advocating for returning to tactics that are against the law, that are classified as torture i think is truly disappointing and alarming among solve other thing donald trump does. but this is something that we as americans need to stand up to. and i believe it's time in this country for a new era of civic
engagement where we mobilize, we're better informed, we're more vigilant in defense of our democracy and defense of our fundamental ideals. this is part of that. >> give us the name of your group again so people at home -- >> stand up republic. they can go to the website stand up republic.com and follow us on twitter. >> always good to see you. thank you. british prime minister theresa may just finished talking to members of congress. tomorrow she'll become the first world leader to meet with president trump face to face. what will they see on eye to eye and will the special relationship continue? and then mum ps on the rise in multiple states and it is not because children are not getting the vaccine necessarily. that story ahead. (vo) do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light. do not go gentle into that good night.
welcome back to "the lead". the world lead now, it's been called the quote, special relationship the seemingly unbreakable bond between united states and critical ally across the bond, the uk the american president and british prime minister have been the closest of friends. prime minister thatcher, to say nothing of winston church hill and fdr. will president trump and prime minister theresa may follow that lead? tomorrow they will meet for the first time. in brexit and america first foreign policy in which trump has criticized the nato alliance, will this strategic partnership change? joining me here in washington is cnn national diplomatic. may finished addressing senators in philadelphia.
how will they remember it? >> she some time gets in front of the camera, she's a little timid, sly, slow to start, but she knocked this out of the park. she did what she needed to do. she was strong, she was confident. she gave a very clear message and she did what she said she would do when she came into this, is she would be a friend to the united states, but not afraid to say the tough things. this is how she put it. >> america can be stronger, greater and more confident in the years ahead. [ applause ] and a newly emboldened confident america is good for the world. an america that is strong and prosperous at home is a nation that can lead abroad. but you cannot and should not do so alone. you have said that it is time for others to step up, and i
agree. this is something britain has always understood. >> so, that was it. that was the tough statement where she, a brit, walks into the united states and says, hey, you cannot go alone. you need allies, you need friends. she wants to show that she can stand up and be that tough person. she talked to the u.n. about nato. a lot of issues she's under appreciate in europe and in the uk so she had to address here. she did that. >> firm statement of support for nato, firm statement of support for the united nations both of which donald trump has criticized very much and she also spoke about president trump's approach to vladimir putin. what did she have to say? >> i think this again was one of those places where she actually knocked the ball out of the park. she raised president reagan and margaret thatcher. both times she did that the crowd gave a strong applause. she said don't let president putin take back what thatcher and reagan did, freeing europe. this has been an important
message. yes, engage with russia, but be cautious and that's the message she wanted to deliver. >> in reagan's words, trust but verify she said. tell us what she's going to bring up on the agenda when she meets president trump tomorrow for the first time ever. >> you know, the idea would be that she just rehashes what we heard here. the reality is the key for her is the idea of getting an agreement to speed through a trade deal for britain that improves britain's business opportunities with the united states, a two-way street, so when britain leaves the european union it can get a quick trade agreement. this is something that if she gets that type of commitment from president trump when her negotiators go into the european union in a few months' time to negotiate the deal, they've got some steel, they've got some resolve behind they are back because they know they've got the united states at their back and that was key. that's what she wanted to communicate across the board to the republicans today. >> all right. nick robertson following around theresa may. we appreciate it. repeal and replace, that is what
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welcome back to "the lead." republican members of congress are at their retreat in philadelphia. much of the talk is about the next steps for obamacare, for repealing and replacing it. right outside their meeting protesters are demonstrating against their plans to repeal the health care law but some republicans are also skeptical of a complete repeal at least. michigan's republican governor rick scott wants to keep his state's medication expansion alive after seeing some unexpectedly positive results. let's bring in cnn's jessica snyder. jessica, you talk to people in michigan who are scared what's
next and they back what the governor is saying. >> jake, they're optimistic med indicate expansion will be saved. governor snyder is in a tough spot. he's a republican who did not endorse donald trump as a candidate and now he's pushing to save federal funding for part of obamacare. it is bound to be a tough sell on capitol hill. but the people i spoke with after the governor's handling of the flint water crisis, this is a battle he better not lose. gene ireland has spent all of her 24 years in flint, michigan. and it hasn't been without struggle. she suffered through the water crisis, is putting herself through school at the university of michigan campus here while working part time, and learned to live without health insurance when her mom lost her job in 2012. >> that's when it became like, wow, we don't have anything. >> reporter: but three years ago the state of michigan threw her and thousands more a life line under the affordable care act, republican governor rick snyder opted to expand the pool of people eligible for medicaid in
a program called healthy michigan. it opened up to people ages 19 to 64 for individuals earning $16,000 or less and families earning $33,000 or less per year. suddenly it wasn't just people at or below the poverty level who could enroll in medicaid and despite the supreme court's ruling that states weren't bound to take part, 16 states that have taken the expansion have republican governors. >> it wasn't the generic expansion. we actually added requirements for personal responsibility and wellness on the front end. >> governor snyder is now fighting to keep federal funding for the expansion. since launching the program in 2014, more than 600,000 people have enrolled in healthy michigan, far surpassing the expected enrollment of 470,000. snyder along with nine other governors met with the senate finance committee one day before trump's inauguration. he says michigan has experienced a 44% drop in uncompensated care days at hospitals statewide, illustrating the importance of
the program. you're seeing the savings here in michigan. but will that translate down in washington when they're deciding how to dole out the dollars? >> this is the best case i've ever seen in terms of congress wanting to listen, and actually have a positive dialogue with the states. >> you didn't endorse donald trump. do you worry that that may boed unfavorably for you and hence the residents of michigan? >> i haven't seen indications of that. >> reporter: snyder says he has not spoken to the president. >> i was working 65 hours a week and barely making ends meet as it was. >> reporter: but for people like robin mead who had lifesaving surgery thanks to michigan. >> that's really the reason i'm still here today. >> reporter: it means her three children don't have to live without their mother. >> wee needed a plan. >> reporter: jean ireland graduates in april when she hopes to get a job that offers
health insurance. but in the meantime she's looking to governor snyder to save the expansion. >> it does show that he has some sense of humanity and cares. >> reporter: president trump's senior advisor kelyanne conway said this week that the white house is entertaining the idea of converting federal funds for medicaid into block grants to the states. right now the government is actually funding 100% of medicaid expansion costs. now, michigan governor rick snyder, though, tells me he does not favor a block grant saying the government should be working with states to allow and encourage them to create programs that focus on accountability rather than just dollars and cents. jake? >> jessica snyder, thanks so much. let's bring in the chair of the house energy and commerce committee. he joins us now from the republican tree treat in philadelphia. congressman, good to see you. thank you so much for being here. >> good to be with you. >> what do you say to governor snyder, a republican, who wants those women we just heard from that piece to keep the medicaid expansion, the coverage they got
through obamacare, what is your message to them, what's the house republican caucus message to them and to governor snyder? >> well, it's interesting you ask that, jake, because i was in that senate finance committee meeting and participated. actually led it for a while. we asked for their input from the governors there. in another meeting later in the day we want to hear what's working from the states. the thing we heard most from the states they want the flexibility because they thought they could achieve savings, end up with a better health care program for their citizens, and they have to come to washington now on bended knee to get waivers. we want to give them the money, we will maintain responsibility so it's spent correctly but we want to give them flexibility. every governor in that asked for that. give us flexibility, let us experiment. governor needer has done a great job. he talked about that. we want to see continuous coverage. we want it make sure people with preexisting conditions continue to get covered. in fact, i'll introduce a bill next week that will provide and
reaffirm that commitment from republicans. we've always believed that those up to 26 years old should be able to stay on their parents' health insurance. in fact, it was a republican idea before the democrats put it into aca. we're going to reaffirm that as well. so, you'll see us move forward. confidently, unified way to create a system that works for all americans, that will give them more choices at better prices. right now if you look at the individual market, it is collapsing in a death spiral. you look at the jump in premiums. i go out to my district in oregon, jake, you look at the premiums going up 25%, 50% in some states. you had individual market, and then look at the deductibles. you think about middle class americans 46% couldn't come up with $400. how will they come up with $7,000? this is not working. >> i know you thought the idea was the republican idea first, too. let me ask -- >> the individual mandate? not mine.
>> the republicans. let's move aside from that. the medicaid expansion when you guys talk about when republicans in congress talk about a block grant, would that be a block grant for medicaid including the medicaid expansion or would you go back to the original medicaid and the women that we saw in that piece just there who got health care through the expansion? they would no longer have their medicaid funded. >> yeah. so, let's talk about that because not every state took the medicaid expansion money. and clearly this is an economic cost we have to figure out as well. we'll spend more next year between state and federal funds for medicaid alone than is spent in the entire defense budget for the country. and by the ten year budget window it will be up to a trillion dollars a year on medicaid alone. so, everybody knows we have to figure out a better way to deliver health care to these people at a more affordable manner. now, there are options out there so that i know this story kind of locked in on one option and that was a block grant. there are many other governors
and other members of congress who think there is another way to do it, a per capita. so, each state gets something per person that would qualify. but what they really want is flexibility so they can cover the people you're talking about in your story. it's that way, or some of them recommended for those that are 100% of poverty up to 138%, they say those might be better over on the health care exchange with a refundable advance refundable tax credit that would pay for their coverage or subsidize it over there and they would be off on insurance on that side. some governors said that would take care of their population better than the current system. the long and the short of it is we have a lot of great ideas here. we're coming together here in philadelphia to hear from our colleagues, to hear from the trump administration. we leave here with a good idea about where to go forward. you'll see our committee on energy and commerce move forward next week with hearings on specific pieces of legislation to begin to address the problems. by the way, one other thing out of michigan, it was michigan who came to us and said, can you do something about lottery winners
who can win a million and $2 million and still stay on medicaid the way the federal law is? the bureaucrats say you can't kick them off. we have waiting lists in america, jake, for disabled and frail seniors to get on medicaid. they've been supplanted by able bodied adults who have won lotteries. this makes no sense. these are things we're going to tackle. >> congressman, you'll come back ask talk about some of these other proposals you're bringing before your committee next week. thanks so much. coming up next concerns had in several states about a growing number of mumps cases. it isn't just kmil dren getting sick. where the disease is on the rise coming up. if you're searching other travel sites to find a better price... ...stop clicking around... the lowest prices on our hotels are always at hilton.com. so pay less and get more only at hilton.com.
children welcome back to lead. i'm jake tapper. in health today, the united states is seeing the biggest number of mumps cases in a decade. as of december 31st, there were more than 5300 cases of mumps in 46 stacey and the district of columbia. eight states are iowa, illinois, massachusetts, new york, oklahoma and texas. each more than 100 cases as of last month. mumps could cause some serious complications, especially in adults. complications such as deafness or inflammation of the brain or even death.
so, what is driving this spike in cases? cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen explains. >> jake, this is certainly a sizeable outbreak of mumps in washington, 278 cases. now, i know a lot of us parents are thinking, wait a second, i got my child vaccinated against the mumps and indeed you did. children routinely get doegses when they're little, one when they're around one years old and another dose around four. but here's the problem. the immunity wanes. after about ten years, those shots start to not work so well. so, that's why in high school and in college you sometimes see these outbreaks. now, there's not much they can do about that, mumps unfortunately is an imperfect vaccine. some people have wondered, well, could we revaccinate, do another shot say around 14 or 15 years old. the issue with that is experts say that's been tried and it hasn't worked out so well. but experts are still trying to work this out, still trying to figure out if there's anything that can be done because we see
these outbreaks in high schools and colleges quite a bit. now, the reason why it happens is that mumps is often brought in from another country. in the united states we routinely vaccinate against mumps but in other countries they don't. so, all it takes is for someone to come in from another country who wasn't vaccinated and that can then spread the virus. jake? >> all right, elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. six people were shot including a little girl and they were attending a vigil for a homicide victim in chicago. so, how are chicago officials responding to president trump's threat to send in the feds if the carnage is not fixed? that story next. but then i realized there was. so, i finally broke the silence with my doctor about what i was experiencing. he said humira is for people like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission.
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12-year-old girl were shot at at a vigil for a homicide victim. the girl suffered a wound to the head. she's now in stable condition. chicago registered more homicides last year than am any other u.s. city according to the fbi and chicago police. now, this incident came just one day after president trump threatened federal intervention if what he called the carnage in chicago does not stop. the governor responded in a radio interview saying that the new administration has not contacted him about violence in its biggest city. turning to our money lead, american airlines has a new message for passengers on its brand-new jets. b.y.o.s., bring your own screen that's because it's new boeing 737 max jets will not have screen for in-flight entertainment. why? because they say 90% of passengers already have their own screen with them, a smartphone or tablet. nothing in life is free. if you want to surf the web you will stim have to pay. passengers will have access to some of its live tv channels and
story tv episodes. less than two weeks into the donald trump presidency, cnn will be hosting a town hall with the house minority leader democrat nancy pelosi. she will field questions from audience members from across the country. what is the democratic strategy in the donald trump era? i'll moderate tuesday night 9:00 p.m. on cnn. that's it for "the lead." i'll turn it over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." he also is not going to keep his mouth shut. >> happening now. you're canceled. mexico's president calls off the meeting with president trump after declaring his country won't pay for a border wall. the white house responds by suggesting president trump could fund the wall by imposing a 20% tax on imports from mexico. tonight the white house is walking that back. pushing an investigation, the president backs off his false claim of widespread voter fraud by calling for an investigation, but is there really anything to investigate? stump speech, the president ta