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don't want them here at the pentagon, president trump goes to new extremes to keep foreign terrorists out of united states. this hour, who will be impacted by the commander-in-chief's new executive action? reaching out. mr. trump embraces america's special relationship with britain while trying to ease the fallout from his strained relationship with mexico. how did he perform? when faced with his first major diplomatic tests. marching in d.c. anti-abortion activists, cheered on by vice president pence. annual event turning into a celebration as demonstrators
anticipate president trump's pick for u.s. supreme court. hitting the opposition. trump echos words of top strategists labelling the news media as the opposition party. the president wrapping up his war of words with journalists attempting to do their job. we want to well kcome our viewe from the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> president trump orders new limits on the flow of refugees from certain countries that he considers to be hot beds of what he calls radical islamic terrorism. mr. trump signing the action that pentagon to establish the extreme vetting measures, he often spoke about during the president shl campaign. the president also attended the ceremonial swearing in of his defense secretary, james mat pips mr. trump publicly declaring today that will let mattis overrule him on the very
sensitive issue of torture. mr. trump says he thinks torture works but acknowledges general mattis does not. the president went to the pentagon shortly after welcoming the british prime minister to the white house. his first face-to-face meeting with the foreign leader. they emphasize their areas of agreement. but when asked about lifting sanctions on russia, mr. trump said it is too early to discuss that. prime minister may britain want the sanctions in place. trump says they had a friendly long hour-long phone call a day after pena cancelled the trip to washington. they agreed try to resolve their dispute about who will pay for mr. trump's wall at the southern board border. i will talk about that with congressman adam smith. and former ous u.s. envoy to
europe, daniel bair. and they are all standing by as we bring you full coverage of the day's top stories. a lot to cover this busy day for president trump. jim acosta is at the white house. jim sciutto is at the pentagon. jim acosta, first to you. >> wolf, there are differents on display. president trump seeming to leave the door open to lift sanctions on russia. something that theresa may flatly rejected. it is also worth noting that president trump told her he was 100% behind nato, an alliance the president said it outdated in the past. this change from the obama era could be felt immediately at the news conference, wolf. while bro while barack obama spoke in paragraphs, donald trump spoke in sentences. >> his meeting with theresa may was less about the relationship with u.s. and britain and more about the frayed relations with
his administration and mexico. >> we had a very good call. i have been very strong on mexico. i have great respect for mexico. i love the mexican people. >> the president revealed only a few details about his morning phone call with mexico's president. one day of the mexican leader abruptly cancelled his trip to the white house next week. during a remarkedly brief 18-minute news conference the president had no details on who's paying for the wall. >> we are going to be working on a fair relationship and new relationship. but the united states continue continue to lose vast amounts of business, vast amounts of companies and millions and millions of people losing their jobs. that won't happen with me. we're no longer going to be the country that doesn't know what it's doing. >> read-out from the mexican government saying the two men
agreed not to speak publicly about this controversial issue. but it is worth noting that line does not pair in the white house statement on the call. >> this was your choice of a question. [ laughter ] >> there goes that relationship. >> the president needled may on a question over the use of torture. trump said he would defer to t mattis who said torture didn't work. >> i wouldn't necessarily agree but i will say he will override because i will give him power. >> there will be issues in which we disagree. >> even though both the president and prime minister were talking up relations between the u.s. and britain there was distance evident on sanctions over oou russia on its invasion of ukraine. >> we believe sanctions should continue. >> but the president and prime minister do have one thing in common. both riding into office after pop u loose movements in their
countries. though president trump trying to push back on perceptions of his hard-charge be persona. >> i'm not as brash as you might think. i can tell you that i think we're going to get along very well. it is interesting because i am a people person. i think you are also, teresa. and i can often tell how i get along with someone very early, and i can tell we will have a fantastic relationship. >> trump will talk with hollande and merkel. these two countries have kept a lid on vladimir putin in europe and it is no surprise they will all be on the phone with each other when trump talks with putin. very critical calls to begin read-outs this weekend, wolf. >> very important phone calls indeed. now the president's action on extreme vetting and other action he took as part of his plan to take on the terrorist. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is at the pentagon.
you've got the details, jim. >> that's right. we just got new information from a defense official describing this meeting between president trump on his first visit here to the pentagon and new secretary of defense james mattis. we are told the meeting took about an hour long. took place in the tank, which is a secure meeting room with the joint chiefs normally meet. global threats, things such as north korea, accelerating we're told the fight against isis. there are a number of options the president asked for to do that and also military readiness. that is the subject of one of the executive orders today. other one far more controversial, banning immigration to the u.s. for a time for people from seven muslim majority countries. setting up what appears to be a religious test for entry to the u.s. in his first visit as commander-in-chief, donald trump introducing extreme vetting measures, from muslim majority
countries trying to enter the u.s. >> establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. we don't want them here. >> also on the agenda, trump expected to lay out his vision to top commanders on what he wants in a new and more aggressive plan to fight isis. mr. trump is establishing a series of objectives for fighting the terror group and setting a 30-day deadline for the joint chiefs of staff to report back. still, some of the options under consideration do not represent a radical departure from the current strategy of air power backing local fighters on the ground. a u.s. official tells cnn they may arm kurdish fighters inside syria. an option the obama administration decided against, deeming it too risky. it may recommend deploying u.s. artillery and attack helicopter toer
toer ers to the battlefield in syria. as well as more boots on the ground to back the syrian rebels and their offensive to retake the isis defacto capital. trump telling fox news that u.s. will win the fight. >> we are fighting sneaky rats right now. that are sick and demented. and we are going to win. >> today in a press conference with british prime minister and u.s. ally theresa may, trump said he is considering trump cooperation with u.s. adversary russia against isis. this, although, both his defense secretary james mattis -- >> i'm very modest expectations about areas of cooperation with mr. putin. >> and cia director mike pompeo told lawmakers during confirmation hearings that russia has done little to nothing to combat the terror group. >> russia las reasserted itself aggressively. invading ukraine, threatening europe and doing nothing to
invade and destruct isis. >> trump will talk to putin this weekend. this amid growing speculation that president trump may ease or lift u.s. sanctions on russia. impose by the obama administration for russia's invasion of ukraine under 2014. and interference in the 2016 u.s. presidential election. >> as far as sanctions very early to be talking about that. but we look to have a great relationship with all countries, ideally, that won't necessarily happen. >> trump's openness to lifting those sanctions, that phone call with president putin this weekend, causing a great deal of consternation on capitol hill, wolf, from dem rats and republicans. john mccain saying in his words it would be reckless to lift those sanctions and going on to warn trump, it would be ney eai and dangerous to consider putin an ally. wolf? >> let's talk more about this
with the top democrat, congressman adam smith. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. >> let's talk about this extreme vetting process. and are you okay with the u.s. and the process with refugees coming into the united states and at least for the time being, banning refugees from certain countries. >> not. i mean, we already have a very extensive meeting that usually takes 18 months to two years. and is incredibly rigorous. it would be one thing if president trump put out, okay, here is my new vetting process, but he hasn't done that. he just banned refugees from, you know, muslim countries that he named and i think that simply creates greater problems for the u.s. look, this isis and al qaeda's message. this is a war of islam against the west.
when the u.s. says we're not taking muslims, that simply feeds into the narrative that helps isis and al qaeda recruit. like i said, we have vetting process and there is no evidence that any refugees that we have let into this country committed any act of terrorism in the u.s. >> do you think the president can take the extreme vetting measures without additional congressional authority? in other words, can he do it through executive action alone? >> yeah, i don't have the legal background to know what you can or can't do. it seems like president trump will test those boundaries. obviously it would be better if it was done legislatively or done with the cooperation of the executive and legislative branch. but we will see what he comes up with. in the meantime, an outright ban while waiting for that with no, you know, specific idea when that ban will stop i think goes against american values and against american interests. >> in an interview with the christian broadcasting network,
david brodie, in fact the president said today that christian refugees from syria or iraq should get priority. do you believe it is in line with american values to give a religious test or a fast track to certain religious groups? >> absolutely not. we were found owned religious freedom. if we are going to be successful in fighting against isis and al qaeda and other extremist groups, we have to make it clear that our fight is not against an entire religion. it is against the extremists within that religion. we will need muslim allies more than anybody else if we are successful in this fight. if you lump them all together and say they are all bad, like i said, that just makes al qaeda and isis very happy and makes recruitment easier and drives that wedge and starts creating the clash of civilizations that i for one want to avoid. >> you understand, congressman, why a lot of americans believe extreme vetting of refugees
coming into the united states will protect them? >> i do. i think in large part is t is because people aren't aware of the vetting process that already exists. and again, they are not aware, apparently, of the fact that we have not had terrorist attackes from refugees. you think of all the rshootings in the u.s. and a lot were done by u.s. citizens. so the outright ban again sends that anti-muslim message that i don't think will be helpful to the u.s. interests. >> but there have been terrorist attacks committed by refugees in europe for example, people have snuck through the process and have sympathy for isis pf what will pros president and supporters say they want to keep from happening here in the united states. >> i complete hagree with that. but europe doesn't have the same vetting process that we have.
i think the track record shows that. again, if the president had come out and said here is what is wrong with our vetting process. we don't do this, we don't do that. he has had plenty of of time to look at what the vetting process is. he can describe it and tell us what is wrong with it. he just said no, we're not taking any more refugees until further notice. i do not think that is our top interest. >> i want you to listen to what the president said today about the use of torture. listen to this. >> we have a great general who has just been appointed secretary of defense. general james mattis. and he has stated publicly that he does not necessarily believe in torture. or water boarding. or however you want to define it. enhanced interrogation would be a word that a lot of people would want to use. i don't necessarily agree, but i would tell you that he will
override because i'm giving him that power. >> what do you make of that? >> first of all, i'm very glad that mattis is secretary of defense. i have worked with him closely while i was on the armed services committee. i think he is a very smart man and very capable and it is good that he is in the place that he is. to have a secretary of defense with jim mattis's credibility to sort of balance out some of the more extreme statements and positions the president has taken is a positive. but also, extensive studies have been done on this. and basically, torture doesn't work. interrogation works when you do it in an entirely different way. and we have had this vaer mucre and studied all eefr tover the . when you torture someone they will pretty much tell you whatever you want it hear. that doesn't necessarily make it true. and john mccain has been very outspoken on this. i applaud him for taking a tast
that this is not american values to torture people. part of the reason is because john mccain was corps toured to vietnamese. he knowes this isn't something we hawe should do on the value basis. this is not the most effective way it get information out of suspects. it makes no sense what so of. i'm glad that president trump is yielding to jim mattis's greater experience and greater expertise on this issue. >> thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks, appreciate it, wolf. >> are the president and prime minister on the same page when it comes to nato? i will talk to daniel bair, he is stabbeding by live. m? he's happy. your family's finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make. ahh! birds eye voila
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back with breaking news from president rum trump's first white house news conference. theresa may made a pint of trying to pin down the president on supporting nato. listen to this. >> on defense, we are united with nato on the bull work of our collective offense and today we have reaffirmed this unshakeable commitment. mr. president, you confirmed you are a hundred percent behind nato. but we are also discussing the importance of nato continuing to insure it is as equipped to fight terrorism and cyber warfare as it is to fight more convinceal for conventional form of war. >> joining us now from europe, daniel baer, serving under president obama. ambassador, thanks for joining
us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> you know president trump has been critical of nato saying it is obsolete. do you believe he is now 100% behind nato as we just heard from the british prime minister? >> i certainly hope so. i think it is important to see president trump's actions rather than words. his words have been concerning. but he should be behind nato. it is the most successful in military alliance. and with american security and european allies for the last 75 years. >> but a lot of nato don't make the financial contribution to the nato budget that the u.s. wants them to make. shouldn't they be paying more? >> there's been a long standing policy that we like to see nato spend 2% of their gdp.
as we continue to work on that we shouldn't abandon or discount the value that nato continues to deliver to the united states. we should remember that one time that nate why alliance has been invoked to support an ally is for the united states after september 11th. nato is important to u.s. security. it is something we should invest in for our own sake. and this serves all of our interest. >> only a few, maybe three or four, if that, of the 28 nato allies make that 2% financial commitment. maybe it is getting better, but there is a long way to go in that specific area. ambassador, let's talk about russia lifting sanctions on russia. the president was asked about that today. he was noncommittal as one of his top advisers, kellyanne conway, says it is under consideration. how much resist uance could the there be if key allies move in that direction, as he has a cone
conference he with putin tomorrow. >> it would be a lousy deal maker to give away your leverage. i hope he will think long and hard about that. i also think that we have already seen from a number of folks from his own party on the hill, their caution that this would be naive and foolish move if the president were to take that step. i think there's a bigger picture here which is that sanctions obviously no one wants sanctions. sanctions fr sanctionsn sanctions aren't something anyone wants to see in place. president putin and kremlin violated intering aal law, violated rules of the international order, in invasion of ukraine and crimea and there needs to be consequences in order to uphold the rules. allies of the world look to the united states to be a leader. we don't just stand up, we stand for something. it is important for president trump to understand that sanctions are a tool to enforce the rules of the international system. that something we all have an interest in.
>> president trump will speak with putin tomorrow. first phone call since he was inaugurated a week ago. what should be president trump's major message to the russian leader tomorrow? >> i think president trump's major message to the russian leader tomorrow should be he is prepared to engage. but that he is prepared to engage within the context of principals of the international system and we would like to see a russia that obeys the rules and works in partnership with us and others according to the rules rather than undermining it as he has done in ukraine and other areas around the world. >> you finished your tour of duty, how did the transition work for you? in other words, how much briefing did you give the trump administration counter parts it help them prepare for their new assignment? >> well, wolf, they did
everything to make sure the transition was smooth. he wanted us to work through the last day to make sure we were setting up successors for success. i actually offered, it is in the foreign affairs manual, state department's internal regulations that all parting ambassadors should come to washington on their way home and spend days doing consultations with folks to debrief and brief them on what is coming up and where challenges will be et cetera. i offered to do that but transition team said that they had carefully considered the request and respectfully declined. unfortunately i wasn't able to provide that service but i look forward to finding out who my successor will be and my door will be open in the spirit of advancing american interests and supporting their effectiveness going forward. >> so they didn't care it hear your views, is that right? >> i think it is fair it characterize it that way, yes. >> all right. daniel baer, former u.s.
ambassador to the organization for security and cooperation in europe. you're back in the united states. thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks for having me, wolf. >> just ahead, more on president trump's phone call with mexico's president. and notable difference in each country's read-out. and the president echos top adviser. why does he believe the news media are now the opposition? your insurance company won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
the president went to his first news conference with the british prime minister today. coming off a tense feud with the mexican president over the border wall who is going to pay for that wall. did president trump turn over a new leaf tonight? >> far be it for me to make any predictions about donald trump and how he will act day-to-day, let alone minute to minute. we did see a less confrontational style. we reported yesterday that president barack obama before he left office add conversation with theresa may and the australian prime minister asking him to cozy up to him, be his friend, to try to get him to understand the weightiness of the job as president of the united states. but what he didn't do today, he really stuck on the issue with terror when it comes to torture. he didn't waiver off of that. which has infuriated the likes of john mccain who put out a very long scathing statement about that. and he also didn't move away
from moscow either as well. the idea that moscow could be an ally right now of the united states. again, another issue that john mccain doesn't care for. >> he did say he would defer to his defense secretary on the issue of torture and enhanced interrogation, water boarding, whatever you want to call it. and nic robertson, overseas in london and other places, a friendly tone with theresa may. but there are serious differences as well. >> theresa may on the issue of nato, very keen to get that point across in turning to president trump and saying, yes, we agree a hundred percent you support nato. it is interesting to -- >> watch this video, by the way. holding hands. >> cute moment. they have to know they are on camera and doesn't that make them look close and doesn't theresa may take that home and speaking of this relationship today just before meeting but to a point you are saying, theresa may, interestingly shut down, you know, british press there a feisty bunch when it comes to
questions she shot them down asking questions about syria and russia because she said we will be talking about those together later. so those are two issues where there are differences. big difference on climate change and difference in tone and maybe substance on their view on iran and difference on the issue of torture absolutely. that came up. that was part of the conversation today. there are differences but she seems to have tackled those differences and in a diplomatic way that apparently president trump has responded positively recognizing that there is benefit for both of them making this go around a diplomatic relationship work and look good. >> two british journalists asking questions and feisty tough questions indeed. abby, let's talk about a phone conversation president trump's phone conversation with the mexican conversation enriqe pena. they agreed they won't talk
publicly about who will pay for the wall because they disagree on the issue. that part of the statement was missing from the white house communication although sean spicer is now suggesting yes they did agree they won't talk publicly about payment for the wall. >> can you see why the white house didn't want to put that in there. it is not exactly donald trump's mode of operation to have any furn -- have any agreement with anybody to not talk about anything. they left that out. i think they can see why that is important for both of them to stick with it. pena is at 12% approval. trump is maybe double that. they are both in perilous places. these public conversations are forcing their backs against the wall making it much harder for them to have real conversations about what is going on. meanwhile, you know, this is the kind of stuff that is normally hashed out between diplomats and sort of back channel conversations before it gets to the principals. there is no evidence that any of that has happened. they are having public
negotiations in that bilateral relationship in the open and it is hurting both of them. >> sean spicer saying just a little while ago they agreed not to discuss how it will be paid for publicly that they will continue to have those discussions and it was in the mexican communication and it was pretty extraordinary from former cia officer that the president of the united states, commander-in-chief, said he believes water boarding and enhanced interrogation torture works and defense secretary-general mattis doesn't believe it works. he is giving him the -- he is giving him the authority to be in charge on this issue. that's pretty unusual for a president and commander-in-chief to defer to defense secretary. >> time-out. mark this down in the calendar. wolf blitzer is wrong. he didn't defer to defense secretary for anything. he wrote a check during the campaign for people to agree we should be aggressive with al qaeda detainees. he said i don't want it sign that check and is hiding behind
the press secretary. he never intended to proceed with enhanced interrogation. if you think this is erroneous, he wrote a check on hillary clinton e-mailes. lock her up. i'm an politician but i am a voter. he's not signing that check. we heard this week on his tax returns. yeah, i've got an audit, i'll release them. same thing. secret plan for isis. we heard this repeatedly including from kellyanne conway in september. you know what the secret plan is? breaking news. pentagon, you got any ideas, bring them over and maybe we will sign over to those. we have a truth deficit in the oval office and i think this interrogation issue is another example. >> so you say he never wanted to engage in water boarding but this is his excuse. give the authority to general mat snis. >> right. the general goats take tets to incoming on this one. very clear to me. >> that's very donald trump-ish, if that's the case.
i wonder if he doesn't even have an opinion on water boarding, whether he agrees with it or doesn't. but to phil's point, if this is the route and we are to believe the route it allows him to save face with his base and allow general mattis to take the incoming and move on. >> everybody stand by. a lot more coming up. making history details of high level white house support for anti-abortion marchers here in washington. [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette. and her new business: i do, to go. jeanette was excellent at marrying people. but had trouble getting paid. not a good time, jeanette. even worse. now i'm uncomfortable. but here's the good news, jeanette got quickbooks. send that invoice, jeanette.
strong backing from the trump administration for the annual anti-abortion march here in washington where the president himself tweeting support. our even juror washington supporter brianna cooler has details. mike pence addressed the marchers today. >> he did, wolf. the anti-abortion movement is more energized than it has been in decades. trump administration is vowing to champion the cause. supporters think with trump in the white house and republicans controlling both the house and senate this may be their best shot yet to limit or even ban abortions. >> vice president mike pence addressing the annual march for life gathering. the highest ranking white house official ever to address the group in person in its 44 years. >> life is winning again. in america.
>> a signal from the trump white house that anti-abortion policies are a priority. while in congress pence led you efforts to defund planned parenthood and he came with a promise from president trump. >> i like to say over there at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, we're in the promise keeping business. that's why this administration will work with the congress to end taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion providers. and we will devote those resources to health care services for women across america. >> also at the march, top trump adviser kellyanne con way pledging action. >> allow me to make it very clear. we hear you. we see you. we respect you. and we look forward to working with you. >> anti-abortion activists are newly optimistic about rolling back row versus wade. the landmark supreme court decision that legalized abortion
nationwide. >> i feel like our prayers have been answered. >> as they look forward to president trump's announcement next week of his pick to fill the vacancy on the court left by scalia's death last year. >> we have four years with a president who has promised to consider this issue once choosing his supreme court justices and the movement is sending a message here today that we are paying attention, we are here and we expect president trump to keep that promise. >> in an interview with a christian broadcasting network, president trump insisted they won't be disappointed. >> i think people will love it. evangelicals, christians, will love my pick and be represented is very fairly. >> his plan it call into the gathering was foiled by a scheduling conflict, his meeting with theresa may. but he tweeted calling the march important and pledging full support.
organizers told us that every state was represented here, wolf, as marchers walked from the washington monument to the supreme court. this is large gathering of at least tens of thousands a. a lot of young people, too, you would have noticed if you saw the crowd. church answe churches and youth groups well represented. >> thank you, brianna keiler reporting for us. how significant is it that the vice president went there in person to address everyone? >> mike pence, this is his wheel house. he has really strong relationships with these groups as does kellyanne conway's strong personal relationships. when he was chosen as trump's advice president, it calmed a lot of nerves about issues. trump said very positive things about abortion. he during the campaign is on both sides of issues and went way too far when he talked about punishing women who seek
abortions. so mike pence has always been this kind of stabilizing force and as we go into next week, a lot of these groups are looking to pence to exert his influence on the supreme court pick. it is a really big deal for some of these folks. they want to move forward with, you know, anti-abortion legislation that will inevitableably be challenged and end up in supreme court. >> let me play a clip. there with a is a third interview in three days. in the christian broadcasting network. david brodie asked the president if he agreed with his top strategic adviser steve bannon that the news outset is the opposition party? >> i think the news outlet is the opposition party. not all media. but not yourself. i have some in the media that i respect as much as anybody. but the dishonesty that total deceit and deception makes them
certainly partially the opposition party, absolutely. i think they are much more capable than the opposition party. the opposition party is losing badly. now the media is on the opposition party's side. and i actually said to myself, i said, te treat me so unfairly, it is hard to believe that i won. but the fortunate thing about me is i have a big voice, a vice that people understand. >> if you're the democrats you have to wonder wlab abo, what a? we're supposed to be the opposition party. come after us. let me disspell a myth. it has been eating at me. during the campaign and the last few weeks. we all want donald trump to succeed and want him to do really well. the bottom line is we don't want him to fail. but it is our job just to report and analyze about what he does, what he doesn't like, though, is when we go out there and report the truth about some of the things that he says or some of the actions that he takes and that very unfortunate.
and quite actions he takes. >> he watches the media, especially the cable chams, constantly by his own admission. what did you think of his comments? >> let's step back. i'm not part of the media. former cia officer. i only appear on cnn, so i feel like i'm impartial here. he's accusing us of being dishonest? after i mentioned during the campaign, we're going to lock her up. nope. i'll give you my tax returns after the review. nope. we have a secret plan. nope. going back earlier, we've seen this in reports from his tv show, "the apprentice," top-ranked show, he knew when he put that information out it was false. my response to the president is we're dishonest? i want to know why there's an air gap between what you say and what the truth is because it happens every day. >> how is this playing in europe? >> they're looking at the president and looking at his words and find with surprise on hillary clinton, locking her up,
that didn't happen, revealing his taxes, that didn't happen. there is a credibility gap and they're questioning anything that he says. is he going to follow through, what does it really mean, this great meeting he had with theresa mayr today, two days time, in two days' time, which will he tweet? he took a political gamble coming here and hitching herself to his administration so soon. so early. the point of the press, you saw how strong the questions were from the british press today. it's a tradition in europe to ask strong and tough and hard and searching questions to politicians. look what is happening in turkey today. the leadership there, pet erdogan, is shutting down the media in that country. theresa may is going there tonight to see president erdogan. that's not a democracy by any stretch. so trying to shut down the media is not a message that resonates with allies in europe. >> doesn't resonate here as well. stand by. there's more coming up.
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president trump touts it as a colossal project that will create tens of thousands of jobs and revive an ailing american vi. but the impact of the newly revived keystone pipeline may fall short. rene marsh has been investigating this for us. you have a reality check. >> that's right. if it's a campaign promise the
president is working to make good on despite the rhetoric, though, it's not going to move the needle all that much. the economic impact of these pipeline projects will be short term. >> reporter: pipeline projects have drawn massive protests, fueled by fears of an environmental destruction in the vent of a leak that could endanger health and safe drinking water. >> we'll renegotiate some of the term. >> reporter: but with the stroke of a pen tuesday president trump put the controversial projects, including the stalled keystone xl pipeline back in play. the $8 billion project would stretch nearly 1,200 miles across montana, south dakota, nebraska, kansas, oklahoma, and texas, carrying more than 800,000 barrels of crude oil per day from canada to the united states. >> a lot of jobs, 28,000 jobs. >> reporter: but a 2014 state department report found only
3,900 workers will be required to build the pipeline and those jobs will only last a year. just 35 positions would be permanent. >> the president's been very clear -- >> reporter: jack gerrard, ceo of the american petroleum institute, does not dispute the state department's numbers. >> 20,000, 5,000, what is it? it's thousands of jobs. they're great, well-paying jobs. let's focus on the benefits. >> reporter: then there's the pipelines themselves and who will make them. >> i am very insistent that if we're going to bill pipelines in the united states the pipes should be made in the united states. >> reporter: but calgary-based trans-canada, the owner of x, has already bought pipes and materials for the project. in 2012 president obama visited an oklahoma storage yard holding pipes that had already been purchased. >> hello, oklahoma! >> reporter: this was before he rejected the project over climate concerns. and a cornell university study
found that almost half, perhaps more, of the primary material for the pipeline was produced by foreign companies. a sticking point for some lawmakers on capitol hill. >> i wish i could sit here and say that that steel is coming from the united states of america. unfortunately, trans-canada's contracted with an indian multinational company, well-spun corp. limited, and a russian company. >> reporter: cnn asked trans-canada if president trump's demand for american steel is a deal breaker. in a statement, the company said we have previously purchased pipe. we will need time to review and analyze the plan when it is released to determine its impact to kxl. >> trans-canada would have to give up a $2.5 billion investment, just write that off. >> reporter: trans-canada says the pipeline will generate tens of millions of dollars in property taxes and add some $3 billion to the gdp. the state department estimates
there would be a total of 42,000 indirect jobs created. however, those will also be temporary. wolf? >> good reporting, rene marsh, thank you very much. that's it for me. thanks for watching. "erin burnett out front" starts right now. "out front" next, the breaking news, president trump signing a new executive order tonight. he says he's keeping out terrorists but is it a muslim ban? and our special series live from the border tonight. inside the tunnels where people and drugs are smuggled into the u.s. will trump's wall stop it? and who is greg phillips and why is the president relying on him? let's go "out front." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, the breaking news, extreme vetting. president donald trump moments ago signing an executive order that would temporarily ban refugees from seven mus