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increased assertiveness from nor korea. they have agreed to meet two weeks from now on february 10th. president trump passed along a greeting from his daughter, ivanka trump, to the prime minister. ivanka very popular here in japan, very highly regarded. she actually met the prime minister when he went to new york for the unofficial meeting at trump tower. >> popular for her fashions and overall are they saying while they love ivanka trump, are they saying overall what they think about donald trump? >> the reason why people seem to love ivanka trump here is because a lot of japanese women look up to her as an example of somebody who can stand up to a very strong, authoritative father and balance motherhood and a career and look glamorous doing it.
it's been written about extensively in the press here. a lot of people would love to see her be the ambassador to johnson. many japanese love ivanka trump. still the jury out about what they think about president trump. >> the next our of "cnn newsroom" starts right now. >> hello again, everyone. thank you for being with me. i'm fredricka whitfield. president trump and his administration is facing new legal issues after signing that order banning people from entering the u.s. meantime at j.f.k. airport in new york, two iraqis who had been granted visas are being detained after arriving in new york last night. one worked with the u.s. government in iraq. another visiting his wife and
child. they have now filed a lawsuit saying their detention at the airport is illegal. in cairo, egypt, some passengers with airline tickets for the u.s. turned away at the gate. an airport official telling cnn, quote, this is a new era we are witnessing, end quote. and tech giant google has issued emergency policy changes for some of their international employees, telling them to cancel travel abroad, even if it affects urgent business. trump suspended the entry of more than 134 million people from seven mostly middle eastern, some african countries for at least 90 days. refugees from syria will be blocked from entering the u.s. indefinitely and the entire refugee program is suspended for four months. let's bring in our guest, the executive of the national immigration law center, one of
the organizations filing a lawsuit against trump's executive order. thank you for being with me. >> thank you are the invite. >> has the suit been filed? what's the legal argument you're makin making? >> we filed lawsuit earlier this morning, along with the aclu and yale law school clinic. we started learning yesterday throughout the day that refugee family arriving in different ports of the country were being detained because of the executive order and specifically we filed a lawsuit on behalf the of two individuals from iraq who arrived at j.f.k. last night and were detained by the border patrol. what's at stake here is what president trump has done is unconscionable andin
constituti unconstitutional. these two individual iraqi plaintiffs that we filed on behalf exemplify individuals who actually have helped the united states government in the war in iraq and should not be detained and should be released so that they can be reunited with their family. >> so mostly your biggest argument is they are being detained, but wouldn't it be the discretion of a president by way of executive order or no? >> we are seeking class certification because we believe there are many other individuals, including we're even hearing that lawful permanent residents, people with green cards who are trying to reenter the united states are also being detained. each of those actions are unconstitutional. yes, the president -- a president has a lot of executive authority in terms of executive orders but to completely restrict an entire country, such
as syria or in this situation countries which we believe -- this is a back door muslim ban, which is what president trump has been saying or arguing throughout his election. >> when that was an argument on the campaign trail, that was a feeling among you and some of your colleaguing that was just campaign talk and would not come to fruition if he was elected and sworn in at president? >> unfortunately we took those threats very serious. we started preparing even before election day and started doing our legal research. so we've been preparing for what could be unconstitutional actions. what has been announced this week by president trump and his administration really show extremist policies. they're expensive, they're ineffective and they're dangerous for our country and they're placing in danger people who are the most vulnerable around the world who are seeking
refuge in our country. >> marielenahincapie, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> and with me, my guests, nic robertson, diplomatic editor and paige patriot, a constitutional attorney. selena, let me begin with you. we're hearing all kind of words such as it is infectieffectivin dangerous, deplorable. what are you hearing on the potential consequences of the executive order? >> this morning i went out and talked to people. people that voted for him had that sort of wait and see
attitude to see exactly what it means. they're not quite sure they understand what the cope of the executive order is. so they have more of a wait-and-see attitude. what was interesting to me when i talked to people that sorted clinton or gary johnson and jill stein, they're mad at us because they think that our profession has created so much noise they don't understand what they should be worried, what is outrage and what is not. that's the commentary across the ohio and pennsylvania area. >> ryan, these lawsuits now, so far about three that we have talked about specifically on our air this morning, calling this ban unconstitutional, also calling the practices of the detainment unconstitutional. how, if at all, would this
impact president trump politically, particularly as members of congress will now look at whether he overextended himself by not consulting with congress in now 14 executive orders in one week in office. >> i think it's important to distinguish between the different executive orders. some of the executive orders, frankly, are more like a press release, a statement of trump's budgetary and legislative priorities. they don't have much impact. for instance, the obamacare executive order. i think most experts agree there's not a big impact there. even the accompanying executive order yesterday about the military. it was basically a statement of principles, of where he wants to take defense policy but didn't have any teeth. >> this one kons kwngs. >> this one probably the most consequential one so far and from the legal community i've seen so far, it does seem he has
very broad discretion in this area as president. it's not like other areas where he needs congressional approval. so if congress really finds this as offensive as a lot a people do, it's going to take the house and the senate, republican leadership in the house and senate speaking up about this. mike pence in the campaign famously said -- i'm paraphrasing dpsh. >> i've got it right here. this is from december 8th. and this is mike pence as vice president-elect says calls to ban muslims from entering the u.s. are offensive and unconstitutional. and now after the swearing in, is mike pence still feeling this way. >> well, it seems like -- >> we haven't heard anything. >> obviously there's going to be a debate about whether this is technically a muslim ban or not,
right? there's certainly a religious test because it prioritizes one religion over another in terms of where they are on the line in coming into the united states. so i think republicans have to speak up on this. those are the people who have the most credibility and can actually have some impact in congress to be totally frank. >> officially unclear whether the vice president is in step with what the president is saying, even though in december he said it was unconstitutional. nick, the u.s. needs allies across the world, whether it be battling isis or have con gruncy on a number of things from a and regulations, particularly as it pertains to other muslim nations. >> even on a more sort of
fundamental level where we talk about the alliance and the similarity of views that exist kpn europe i think it stretches that relationship a lot. what it does, on the one hand, enables groups like isis as are concerns here in the united states as well. but it goes beyond that. president trump has made it clear he's uncertain about the european union and the strength of it, he supports the brexit and there are countries like germany that tutsi sleuthly take the current message that we see in this action and we hear from the most popular politician in
holland at the moment saying i support this banning muslims, i would go further than that in other countries. so for the europeans, they see actions like this as upsetting the european political order. they fear already president trump is trying to, if you will, break up the european union and have more countries like britain leave the european union and enable nationalist, populist politicians like in france. so even in this level where you have this very strong historical alliance, we talked about neat owe, about the meeting of minds. >> paige, you are seeing at least two avenues in which this executive avenue will be
contested. you have members who will argue have gone too far then you have these lawsuits say people are being illegally detained. >> the moore immediate problem is you have people locked up based on this executive order. the lawsuit challenges their detention saying you can't lock these folks up based only on the executive order. you have o show they violated some law and there's no evidence they did. the sek problem is the order itself. is it constitutional to ban an entire group of people from a particular country, particular background, particular religion. when congress wrote the immigration laws, they put in a nondiscriminatory provision, saying with some exception, you can't ban someone.
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german chancellor ainge la merkel. the president has a total of five phone calls today scheduled with foreign leader. at 3:00 trump will sign two, tiff orders. that's our understanding as well. details of what they may cover have yet to be released. let's go to atheena jones at the white house. are we getting any more details about the content of the conversation with putin? >> fred, you're right. it is a very busy saturday. it might as well be a weekday with so much going on here. that call with putin is just getting under way. we know vice president mike pence is also on that phone call with the president. it's the only one of the five phone calls you listed that the vice president is expected to teak part. also on the phone, steve bannon, sean spicer and also his
national security adviser general michael flynn. so a lot going on in that phone call. we'll have to wait and see what comes out of it. one of the big topics on everyone's mind is that issue of sanctions, whether or not the president would decide to lift sanctions imposed on russia for incursion into ukraine. white house officials have said that's not the plan. the president himself said it's too early to be talking about that. in a lot of ways, the calls are preliminary dock mentory plan. angela merkel, the chancellor of germany knows vladimir putin and has a lot of interaction with him. it will be interesting on perhaps wh she advised president trump on anything regarding the russian president. the first call was with japan's prime minister shinzo abe. and we know that the president
invited the president to come here to the white house for meetings ond february 10th. they used north kreeia the commitment to security and the fact that defense secretary james madison will be traveling to the region, including japan. a lot going on today. >> appreciate it. trump's phone call could. >> what's the understanding of potential consequences, benefits or otherwise, this phone call there? >> it's incredible, isn't it? i can't remember a time when a phone call between a russian and american president has been so and advertised patrioted. there a certainly the kremlin has been playing down any
expectations that this is is going has been very rocky offer a couple issues. they creme benuppers in the russian establishment have got a very different view, one leading senator here saying that this conversation will give a new beginning to the fight against the islamic state and a solution to the crises in syria and rue crane. of all these diplomatic phone calls being made today by president trump, this is by far the most important one. i don't think anyone is expecting this phone call to result in all of the sanctions that were imposed by the united states against russia to be lifted, tykely after and exat n
exation. >> it -- there is some expectation, i've spoken to diplomats and financial people here in russia, there is some expectation that there may be move towards reduesing or rolling back the most over the issue of alleged hacking -- and this is coming from the white house, not any confirm ago from the kremlin. "this telephone conversation is concern on what exactly discussed. >> in.
this is cnn breaking news. >> and now the fallout continues. we've already been reporting on lawsuits being filed calling it unconstitutional, the president's executive order banning and now this breaking news, iran announces it will and in this. as, quote, an insult, a gift to extremists and announce that it's government, iran be i'm reading now, "the u.s. decision restrict travel of three months. and it's particularly to the great nation of iran.
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breaking news. iran now saying it will bran u.s. citizens in response to president trump's ban. effective immediately. ryan nobles, to you first at the white house. any response? this of course just happening. there are seven nations, iran is one of them, and now iran putting out this statement. >> the white house hasn't directly responded to the news of iran limiting americans entering their country. b fredricka, what this shows is the direct and immediate impact this executive order is having in addition to responses from other countries. we can expect to see more in the coming days and weeks and it's
having a real impact on human beings as well. if you're someone who is from one of those seven countriesnd you had plans to travel to the united states, even if you had a valid visa. if you happened to be on a plane en route but you land after the executive order has been signed, many of them put on planes and sent back to the homes of their original citizenship. this is his administration making good on a campaign promise here in the early days of them taking power. >> and folks getting familiarized, we're talking about yemen, sued and, somalia, iraq, libya and iran, the seven nations where they are being banned entry into the u.s. so we're talking u.s. in in a
places of military as well as iraq. what kind of response is coming from the pentagon and concerns or how might this impact decisions this day forward involving u.s. military personnel? >> that's right. one of the things that was actually in a draft of this executiveored that actually didn't make it to the final cut was an issue of establishing safe zones in syria for refugees. the pentagon was a little bit happy to see it did not make it in the final order. the iranians called it a difficult too extremists. it could greet group like there's also concerns in terms when it comes to recutting intere interest. >> there's a program for those who help troops in iraq. it's little bit on some of the
more nuanced issues too this order. already we're seeing as it treelts translators, we know apparently, i just talked too the attorney at the 11:00 hour, teerns who are being held, iraqis, at jf he and his family, lives have been threatened. he went through the extensive refugee emergency status, wild for a so knew. >> that's right. and the pentagon hasn't addressed these cases individually yet.
the pentagon hasn't commented publicly on this but in the past military commanders said when these programs are held up, delayed, it does hurt u.s. credibility in the region and does affect to a certain ability to recruit. these critical translators are necessary when it comes to engaging with local forces and engaging troops on the ground. >> and ryan noble, this is a new administration but we're talking abo about. >> well, i'm not so sure fredricka that they are concerned at all about the criticism. this is something that they firearmly believe, certainly that he'ds the response from
kramts saturdays been crisp and he actually tweeted, that heardbreaking peck you're of the young syrian boyd world leadership if you choose to be silent today. we blurt out the picture of the young by but that's the tweet that was even though the white house doesn't cry -- what ability they have to stop something look this, at loose religion pif but you can expect this to play out in a court of law for sure. >> thank you open, sean.
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we send a message to president trump, woe want to live in peace. we do not want to go to the united states to carry out terrorist operations. we are against terrorism. our religion, islam, is a religion of peace, not of terrorism or killing. >> cnn's rachel crane joining us. what do you know particularly about the two men, two people who are being detained there, not allowed entry. what more can you say?
well, fred, we just learned that 12 people currently being detained here at jfk as a result of this executive order. in the lawsuit today, it was filed on behalf of two iraqi men. one had been issued a special imgrant visa this gentleman. now the ungentleman was granted refugee status recently. his family had been granted refugee status about two years ago but he had gone through that, ausing vetting process and had been granted refugee is it the statistic us--
>> this order is unconstitutional. it's wreaking havoc on the lives of refugees trying to reunite their families and their loved ones. so we filed a suit, sending them back to the danger that they came from. they're able to live peacefully here in the united states. >> the lawyer told me he had been here since 1 a.m. when the legal team spoke to customs and border control, the customs and bored are patrol told them to speak to donald trump. >> thank you. we'll have much more after this. clarz
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iran saying it will ban u.s. citizens from entering the country in response to president trump's new ban, involving muslim nationals from seven nations. ben wedeman, how is all of this being received? >> not surprisingly, the iranian government has acted angrily to this ban. the statement says this is an obvious insult to the islamic world and in particular to the great nation of iran. it also calls this a gift to extremists, which is something i've heard as well. this measure to heighten the level of security, the measures against people trying to get to the united states, refugees and others is a bit like taking a
sledge hammer to fix a swiss watch. there's ways to improve the current system but all together we're starting to see the reaction. i've also heard from pal americ -- parliamentarians in baghdad saying they would like to implement similar measures as well. it's problematic when you consider there are 5,000 military personnel in iraq supporting driving the terrorists out of their country. >> that was an agreement crafted largely by the iraqi government. that is the difference, too. >> yes. and obviously for many iraqis, this is a source of great consternation because they see themselves as being in the front
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welcome back. iran is lashing out against president trump's order banning muslims from this country. iran is fooling suit saying it will have an order in kind. as it pertains to iran, the banning of u.s. citizens, how much of a setback is this, particularly for that u.s.-involved nuclear deal with iran? >> fred, this doesn't bode well. there's no conceivable reason
we're stopping iranians from coming to the united states. there's a huge iranian community, what's going to happen to their relatives? it makes even less sense when you look at the war on terror in iraq. we are the defacto ally and then you get to the iraqis. the kurds are doing all the real fighting, iraqi kurds. what's going to happen to them? >> does this demonstrate a real lack of understanding from this white house on the importance of certain relations in this country as it pertains to u.s. national security, global influence and doing business and promoting harmony? >> fred, he's teen deaf, the
president. he just does not get it that we are fighting this war thanks to our allies. they may not be the most reliable or effective allies but that's what we got. this is going to wreak havoc in this part of the world. what are we going to do without the iraqis? we have 5,000 troops there. what if they're thrown out of the country? we'll be thrown out of the game completely. >> i want to go too j.f.k. as it pertains to the release of one of those iraqi nationals. >> he's been released and will speak to you in a moment. >> well, what can i say, it's a glorious day for all of us. here we are with hamid, who has been released, and i want to thank all the lawyers and the
activists from new york city, jerry nabler, but this should not be -- this should not happen in america. how many times do we have to come here to bring justice to an individual who provided assistance to the u.s. government? and that is the main argument against this mean-spirited, ill conceived, ill-advised executive order. i am happy for hamid. >> thank you! >> as i said it before, one by one, street by street, if we got to go to court, we will fight this anyplace, anywhere, but we will bring justice to the immigration system in this
country. by releasing him, we are making sure that we are keeping america safe. >> i'm mark dawson from the urban justice center. in conjunction with the aclu, national immigration center, the legal aid clinic, we filed a lawsuit on behalf of hamid, a client, and one other person who is still detained, has been detained since 6 p.m. last night unlawfully. we filed a lawsuit challenging this. we are very pleased that he is released now. this obviously was an illegal detention. it was a discriminatory order from president trump and we will continue to fight for all of the
refugees, immigrant and non-immigrants that are coming to the united states and are being illegally detained. we are incredibly happy for hamid to have been released and incredibly excited for him to be united with his family. i know he's very tired from a very long travel and very long detention. he'll have a few words to say and then he's got to go see his family. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> first of all, i want to thank the people that take care of me and support me. they leave their family, their business and come to support me. this is what pushed me to move, to leave my country and come here. and i'm very, very thankful to all of the people who have come to support me. thank you very much. and always we know america is
the land of freedom. the land of freedom, the land of the rights. this is what brought me too came here and i'm very thankful, i'm very happy. >> you're free now. >> reporter: hamid, what do you think of america? >> america is the greatest nation, the greatest people of the world. >> what do you think about donald trump? >> i like him but this is a policy, i don't know. he's the president, i'm a person. i have a special immigration visa in my passport because i work with the u.s. government, i support the u.s. government on the other side of the world. but when i came here, they say no and they treat me as i break the rules or do something wrong. that surprise me.
through what happened to you when you landed? >> i just go through the terminal and i give my passport, the people from the u.s. embassy from baghdad, all the document. they put in an envelope, they say don't open it, they give it to the officer. so i give it to them. they look at my passport and ask me to move to another room and they said -- actually they don't say anything but they keep me there till those people come to support me. yeah, for about two days. yeah. i sit on the chair, i can sleep. >> reporter: what were you thinking? what was going through your mind then? >> i contact with those people through my attorney. and he tell me to not worry,
this is america. when you arrive here, there is a constitution, there is law. no one can act as he likes. so just be patient and we will be with you. and when i get out, i was surprised, all of those people waiting for me, they spoupport . they don't know me, they never meet me and they come support me. >> were you traveling with your family? >> no, no, we're on the same flight. i have the tickets, my wife, we are with each other, we leave from istanbul, we are together. but here and there, totally separate. >> your family was held as well but in another room? >> yeah. >> his family was released and has left safely but he was detained throughout the night and throughout today and that just goes to demonstrate the