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download the xfinity tv app today. i'm michael smerconish. well, week one of donald trump's presidency has ended with a ban heard 'round the world, the executive order suspending all refugee admissions for 120 days from mostly muslim countries and favoring christians already testing the limits of executive power, even though he claims it's not a muslim ban. >> it's not a muslim ban but we are totally prepared, it's working out very nicely. you see it at the airport, you see it all over.
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it's working out very nicely. we're going to have a very, very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. >> already two iraqis with valid visas detained the new york's j.f.k.'s airport have filed a lawsuit and three others have been detained at chicago's o'hare, this on a day that the president dove into foreign affairs, engaging in calls with the leaders of japan, germany, france, australia and russia's vladimir putin. and with the doomsday clock at two minutes to midnight, some of the super rich are preparing for the worst, building luxury bunkers. how would you like to live in a former missile silo? we'll get to all of that with great guests. and send me your tweets. first i have concerns about president trump's filling of a campaign promise by instituting a muslim ban.
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let's not play a semantic ban, that's what it is, given he's singled out seven countries that have been hotbeds of terror activity. i hope he does defeat isis but i worry not only about the discriminatory implications of a religion test, the action may make us feel more safe while actually making us less so. i can only imagine the positive way at that this agreement will be greeted by al qaeda and isis, as both seek to prepare the war with the west as based on faith. he seems to have taken that bait. it may sound appealing when the president says he acting to keep out radical islamic terrorists but that's not necessarily the kase. none of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 came from any of the affected nations. they came largely from saudi arabia and from the united arab
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emirates, egypt and lebanon. also missing from the list, pakistan, birthplace of the san bernardino attack killer where 14 were killed in the united states. she entered the united states on a fiancee visa. the cato institute determined the chance of getting killed by a terrorist attack caused by a refugee is 1.36 billion a year. you're three time more likely to be killed by a fellow american with a gun and that a jihady terrorists. and what about the iraqis who have worked with the united states in the war against terror? how can we leave them behind? i'm mindful that syrian refugees face a hobson's choice of siding with bashar al assad or isis. instead, many fleed.
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the move seems at odds which gives safe haven to those who escape persecution. the united states did nothing to warrant the 9/11 attack, which claimed 3,000 innocent lives of our citizens, but our toppling of saddam hussein in search of wmd did tip an important domino that contributed to the destabilization of the region, wreaking havoc from which some of these refugees are now fleeing. plus, as my colleague peter bergen documented in his book "the united states of jihad" there have been roughly 375 cases of terror prosecuted in america since 9/11, four out of five of them have been american citizens or legal residents. there's been no lethal terrorism committed by refugees here. bergen call it is a red herring. we've accepted 15,000 syrian
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refugees, all subjected to rigorous screening and none involved in terror on our shore. our bigger problems are americans inspired by jihad who have kid and are reasonably well educated. think of omar mateen, born in new hyde park, new york. or the major who killed those at fort hood. his birth place? arlington, virginia. joining me now, david miliband, who is overseeing humanitarian relief in war torn countries and refugee settlements in 26 u.s. cities and foreign british
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foreign secretary. among immigrant groups, where do refugees stand on the vetting scale? >> thanks, michael. refugees are among the group that have the hardest job of getting to the united states. the average is 12 to 18 months of vetting by 12 to 15 different government agencies, including the cia. there is proper biometric testing so that people have to show that they are who they say they are, and all of the power resides with the united states. this country can choose which refugees it wants to take. as you said in your introduction, the number from syria has been very small indeed, just about 15,000 since the war began compared to allies of the u.s. like jordan who have 650,000 registered refugees. the short answer is it harder to get to this country as a refugee than by any other route. >> i think the perception in some minds is that there's a revolving door.
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how long is the typical process for say a syrian refugee to make application and be accepted in the united states? >> let me tell you a man i met yesterday, who is a bake from her damascus. he cooks the syrian dish of baklava. he fled from damascus in 2012 when his bakery was bombed. he went to jordan where he had a cousin, i think. he went there with his wife. he spent four years there until he was finally admitted to the united states a few weeks ago. now he's living in silver spring, maryland. this is a process that on average takes 12 to 18 months of detail detailed paperwork but also interviews. it can take 36 months to get through the process. this is a vetting process that is frankly second to none. it one of the reasons the u.s. has a success story to tell in refugee resettlement. the refugees, we get 80% of them into work in six months in is a
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group of people who knows how to value freedom and they want to pay back the country that has welcomed them. >> have religious minorities been neglected in this process thus far? >> i don't believe so, no. it right that persecuted religious minorities should be a basis for refugee admission. i met an iranian yesterday, who was an iranian christian. among iraqis, about 15% of the refugee who is have come to the u.s. are christians. the number for syrians is much lower but that's significantly because syrians have not been targeted by president assad. and syria is next door to lebanon. many syrian christians have gone to lebanon where they've felt safe and been very strongly welcomed. while it's right to say those who are persecuted on religious ground should be able to claim refugee status, i don't think it
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would be right to say rush. >> and finally, mr. secretary, i want to be fair to the president. let put on the screen a portion of the executive order that he signed which pertains to some of the comments i made at the outset. reads: numerous foreign-born individuals have been convicted or implicated in terrorism related crimes since september 11. deteriorating conditions in certain countries increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the united states. the u.s. must be vigilant during the visa process to be sure they do not intend to harm americans and they have no ties to terror. react to the executive order that he signed.
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>> i sat in a seating government where one has to take responsibility for national security. in the british system, the foreign secretary and foreign secretary, we're responsible for our international security operations. in the last statement where he says america must be vigilant is right. the point i would make is the united states does have a refugee vetting system that is extremely well founded. i think that on a day when 100 google employees are being prevented from coming back to the united states, when an iranian-nominated oscar winner is unable to get into the united states, when people who have served the united states military as iraqi translators are unable to get through into this country even though they've been through the vetting system, what we see is not an absence of vigilance but the kind of perverse outcome you referred to in your first opening statement. this is a situation where the slogans of the campaign need to
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be carefully translated and parsed before they are turned into government policy. it seems to me what the administration could do now is turn to experienced professionals, like the defense secretary, general mattis, the foreign minister, the secretary of state, mr. filltillerson who due to come through this week. these are experienced professionals, there's real expertise there. the administration should turn to those experts and say let's build on american success, let's not turn it upside down and cause danger for ourselves. >> mr. secretary, thank you so much for your time and expertise. >> thank you for having me on. >> today president trump went full throttle, back to back calls with leaders from straul, france, australia and vladimir putin. this after he spoke for an hour with the president of mexico. joining me now, ambassador
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negreponte. >> i share your concern and of course people, interpreters and others who work for our forces and for our embassy, as a matter of fact, when i was there, we had a program to give them special immigrant visas upon honorable completion of their duty. and i think it a great pity if any such person gets caught up in this kind of a buzz saw. and there was one such case today. i'm glad to learn that that person got released from kennedy airport. but those kinds of people should be allowed into our country and i think we could pay some kind
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of price to drn for t-- for the of the forces we have remaining in iraq if we don't pledge to take care of those people. >> i and others have been putting the map up you'll day long to see the affected countries. first, what reaction to those that are on the list and what are you thinking in terms of those that are not on the list? >> i think you have to credit the president and the white house and the administration for having -- i think the selection of countries is note just some kind of a muslim ban, as you suggested. i think it's where some of the most serious terrorist activity is occurring in the region. >> i don't deny -- >> let me just say i think they
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pushed these executive orders out the door pretty quickly because they wanted to get it done in the first week in office. i think the president wanted to convey this image of racketing rapidly as he takes office but there are a lot of details that are going to have to be sorted out next week and beyond about details of implementation and so forth so that we can identify the kinds of exceptional circumstances wherein people will in fact be allowed in the country, in spite of this ban. >> a final question, let me take advantage of your expertise with regard to our southern neighbor. what does ambassador negroponte make of this flap with mexico that will continue to play itself out. >> mexico is our third largest trading partner, our second largest export market.
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there's $500 billion worth of trade with mexico, about ten times as much as we have with the country of russia. so i think it behooves us to get the relationship on some kind of an even keel as soon as possible. i'm glad to see the final outcome of this week's activity was that the president had this one-hour conversation with president pena nieto and i think they've agreed to tuke about some of these trade issues and see if they can sort them out in the satisfactory way that allows this extra trade agreement to go forward. we've quadrupled trade since nafta in 1994. as far as the wall is concerned, think that's more symbolic and more of an emotional thing. i don't think it has as much impa
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impact. >> so here are a couple of the early tweets coming in already atmer skon iish you were referrg to the terror attacks being are the started -- is there time for one more? if so, give it to me. let's -- smerconish, in seven days the potus has divided the country, the world and next comes his party. >> horton: the country was divided. look at the election that just played itself out and it's sad. still to come with pred's irs. >> the answer, it depends on which bubble you live in. and the media spends a lot of time fact checking the new commander in chief. some of them, even using the l. word as in lie. and the president calls by
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so with week one in the history books, how's he doing? that like everything else in this country depends on your silo, from your bubble. i know that from hours conversing with my sirius xm radio listener. for the millions who voted for somebody other than donald trump, this is a hot mess. they think we still have a president fighting over the size of his inauguration crowd, that he makes petty tweets, he made a political speech in front of the cia wall, that he lies about voter fraud, is in favor of
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torture, offended the mexican president. and none of that seems to matter to those who voted for him. here what's what they see: the media distorts the crowd size, ending of obamacare, an abortion ban, end of tpp, nafta on life support, keystone revived, building a wall and ending the carnage. let's talk with the ceo of news max, chris ruddy. you chat with the president on a frequent basis. this is what infuriates the detractors and pleases the supporters. he's been consistent in so far that week he's done what he said he was going to do. >> it's very shocking to the
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media establishment that a president gets elected and actually starts implementing his campaign promises. i know that's just flabbergasted a lot of people but i think it's a sign he's serious about what he's doing. i know there's a lot of media spin on protect the u.s. economy, protect jobs, he's putting a federal hiring freeze. he wants to limit the number of immigrants coming in while we figure out our own economic situation. i think this is fine and i think the media's been actually too critical on him and i think it's unfair and we need to give him a chance. >> but, chris, the media is today whatever you want the media to be. gone are the satellite radios, prenewsbracs dies when you had brokaw or jennings.
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i want to talk about breitbart, the media should be embarrassed, humiliated and just keep its mouth shut said steve bannon. the media here is an the opposition party. they still do not understand why donald trump is the president of the united states. i think he's thinking of the way he ran breitbart when it was bl blom. >> the media is not the opposition party. >> i don't know if you're looking at some of the same polling data. i think it's smart what trump and bannon are doing. >> i don't deny that. >> i know the public, they love you and news max but for the rest of the media, there's very little respect. a lot of distrust.
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by the polling data of major journalists, we know they're very liberal, far out of line with most people. trump is saying, hey, these guys are attacking me but i don't think the democratic party the whipping boy here. he would like to focus on what his agenda is. he needs democrats to come in. the media is really the bad guy. they were the bad guy in the election. >> i think he's republicing of conservative outlets kicking the crap out of the mainstream media. i want to ask you about the refugee ban. i know chris ruddy is a your conservative these syrian, they either had to stick around with
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park park, does that not trouble you? >> well, we know in the paris attacks that some of the people involved in those attacks were from the refugees out of syria. and so there prrk how do we vet there could be certain identity papers. we don't know if they're accurate osht. about so trump is saying let's create a better vetting system. most of the countries in the executive order he's doing are a temporary ban. i think it's just as matter of time. he said he was going to do this in the campaign. i don't think he's anti-muslim. i think he loves the muslim world. i think he's going to reach out to them and i think he's done business in muslim countries. >> give me the final word to say that i'm troubled by the idea that in some cave isis is
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celebrating the idea because now it is a religious war. they may view it as a religious war, that small band. >> well, the basic view is the. >> i'm not sure about that, chris. as a father of three sons, i'm actually fighting what quite frankly other people's battles. the 9/1 attack was not precipitated by our conduct. radical islam was for that. but we made a blunder and pushed over an emorm that has followed i think is partly our responsibility. and now -- >> fair question -- >> and now we're washing our hands of it. >> in fairness, trump believes
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in the iraq debacle. i think he believes there's -- >> i got to run. chris ruddy, thank you. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. you do great that i mean, to the detractors, i can't say it on cable even. it's a blanc show. but to those who voted for him, so somewhere in the middle of that lies the truth. still to come, a new lawsuit alleges 52 rapes but are these statistics that we keep hearing about a campus rape epidemic. are they accurate? marianne gasp. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more
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♪ ♪ yet another story about campus rape broke last night. the "dallas morning news" reported baylor lawsuit alleges 52 rapes by football players in four years, show 'em a good time culture. this would seem to fit the narrative about the climate of sexual assault on college campuses and it goes something like this. 20 to 25% of female undergraduates will be sexually assaulted before they graduate. this epidemic has been sustained by a rape culture that permeates university administrators, fraternities and other groups of male students. colleges have ignored the emergency and have been indifferent to millions of victims and the situation warrants a limitation on due process rates because znd
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thankfully the federal government has stepped in to address the issue with good result because not all of that is actually true. my next guest has some statistics. he's the co-author of the campus rape frenzy, the attack on due proce process how much of that narrative i just spelled out is accurate? i don't mean baylor, i mean the conventional wisdom about campuses. >> i think all of it is inaccurate or highly misleading. even though there is a serious rape problem on cams now his total nonsense and the best statistics belie it along with the 40 or so cases that our book discusses. >> i know that former president obama himself september of 2014 said one in five female college
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students will frankly, i'm surprised that a man as mart at for kwl something that had already been totally discredited at the time he said it. >> what's the real number? >> the real number according to the best justice department statistics and he was in charge of the justice department when they did these statistics is maybe one in a hundred women are raped during th college careers, maybe one in 50, including the rapes sexual assaulted, one in my, and for our highly misleading -- >> let's say this together.
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guys can be pig we want them prosecuted to the full extent of the law. our purpose in having this conversation is not to and abaylor, two of them were criminally con ticket being frk and sending them is way to protect real victims, not rounding up people who were excused under so in the big picture, when you think of sexual predators on college campuses, first thing in my mind, duke, uva, stan pb yield a result fwrchl. you would think given that those two cases blue up, with brrks.
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>> you would think that pand i think the answer is that the people who erm pare ideologues. you can prove a dozen rape charges that are false and it wouldn't matter to them. the new york city that reported the duke case, they've just gone on and in every case they've written about since then that i can think of, they've made the same mistake. they've assumed the guilt of every accused guys, they've extorted the evidence, admitted exculpatory evidence. their coverage has been shameful. i single them out even though i worked there for eight years when i thought they were a pretty straight newspaper.
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i single them out not because they're unusual but because they're typical. >> maybe these colleges are not equipped to be judge, jury and executioner and that law enforcement ought to have that responsibility. again, i want the bad seeds we'dwe' we'd -- weeded out, locked up and key thrown away. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> and the super rich build shelters. >> and they rewrote it twice and apologized really? runs on intel?
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if your image for person who preps for end of times is a lower income red stater who hoards gum, baked beans and scores water in his basement. a new report details how doomsday prepping for the super rich has taken hold from some of the wealthiest in america from silicon valley to new york city. they trade tips on how to purchase gas masks and there is the survival condo project, built in a kansas former nuclear missile silo. you could have an apartment not as a residence but after taking in the high above sea level,
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seismology and i say could have had because they're sold out. perhaps the good news is developer larry hall is now involved in a different project. larry joins me now. larry, what amenities in that bunker? >> well, it's like a miniature cruise ship, michael. it has everything from rock climbing wall and a game arcade for the kids to continuing education classrooms, a library, a movie theater, a bar and lounge. it's got everything that you need to spread out and maintain some semblance of normal when things outside are anything but normal. >> do your purchasers come and hang out, or are they only coming there in a worst case scenario? >> well, originally when they purchased it, they believed that they were only going to come out when there was some catastrophe somewhere. but after they saw the level of finishes and the variety of things too do, they've started
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coming out regularly. most of them come out between two or even three times a year and spend a week or two to get away from the hustle and bustle of the city and feel in a very safe environment. >> if everything hits the fan and i am one of your owners, how am i getting to kansas? >> well, you're getting to kansas probably by driving or flying. most of our clients have a three-plan type of thing. they also have purchased extended range armored vehicles. these people have vehicles that have a range of up to 2,500 miles without having to stop for fuel and they're armored and bullet proof. if it takes them two days to drive and have to stop, they can get here without worrying about fuel supply. if i had $3 million, and i
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don't, my one concern is i'm cl claustrophobic. once i get inside, i'm looking at walls, right? >> well, no, you're not. we've consulted with nasa. they have nine-foot high ceilings and we have live, high-definition scenes displayed on television sets that are framed out to look look wuindow. cup see what time it is, what the weather is doing. it psychologically doesn't make you feel like you're underground. also, if you want to live in new york city and a view of central park, we can get the high-definition views and seasonal views. you can have whatever views you want to do. but the bottom line is psychologically you don't feel like you're underground. >> final question. okay, i spend the 3 million, i own one of these condos,
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everything goes to hell in a hand basket, isn't the whole country going to be beating a path to get to your silo in kansas and how are you keeping them at bay? >> well, the facility was engineer and designed by the army corps of engineers to stand a direct nuclear glass. we do have armed guards there 24/7 and we have automated defenses but the bottom line is if a nuclear blast can't get in, we're not too worried about the neighbors. to that extent there's a lot of people who know there's gold in fort knocks and you don't see people beating down that door either. >> thank you for being here. keep the tweets coming. "smerconish, you live in a bubble." mark, i do live in a bubble but i am spending as much time as i can in 2017 getting out of my bubble and fulfilling my responsibility to bring to you people who are representative
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not only of my bubble but of all is it wrong to call. >> the philadelphia enkiquireen did and that and their response was so strong, they changed their headline twice. how come?
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hey, welcome back. now to a story about our new first lady. last sunday, my hometown newspaper, "the philadelphia inquirer," where my column runs, published a fashion article entitled "melania trump: the first sexy first lady?" the article sparked instant outrage, so the paper tweaked it. the paper then red, "melania trump is clearly embracing her
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sexy as first lady." and that addressed those who saw it as a dis to michelle obama and other past first ladies, but the twitterverse still piled on, so another revision followed. the final headline, "melania trump brings sultry elegance to the white house." the paper also apologized, calling the headline inappropriate, adding, quote, we understand that many readers feel our handling of this subject missed the mark. we can do better. you know what struck me about this story? sure, it's always tricky when you start using terminology that some view as sexist, especially when you're talking about the new first lady. but in this case, the one person i suspect who was not offended by that characterization? her spouse! still to come, your best and worst tweets. like this one. smerconish, ironic they got in trouble for saying "sexy." she made a career out of sexy and that's how she got her husband. tom, she's a beautiful woman. that's all i'm going to say.
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well, that was fun. let's see what came in via twitter during the course of this hour. consumer c smerconish, why is it wrong to call a former fashion model sexy? noreen, i don't think that it was. i think she is a sexy woman. and i think plenty of other first ladies have been equally -- maybe not equally, but sexy as well. and i don't think it's a pejorative. i think she's a very attractive -- all right, they're telling me to move on, already. stop talking about how sexy she is. you're getting yourself in trouble. watching your three trump supporters last night made me cringe. dysfunction 101. lord help us. we need to be better listeners. that's 41% of the country you saw represented last evening. it's a two-way street. the red states need to listen to the blue states and vice versa.
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we don't have to agree, but do a better job listening. smerconish, a lie is a lie. why sugar coat it just because he's potus. we need the press to call him out every time. vicky, you know what my issue is? i really do have respect for the office. i always hated it when those vehement obama opponents would trash him, never recognize his legitimacy and then thump their chests and call themselves patriots. and i respect the office so much that i'm reluctant to see people use the l-word, but call him out? absolutely. i'm calling him out. again, what have we got? smerconish, you are an ass. okay, we know that. but to everyone, which is exactly why we need you right now. faster, faster, i like that, that was a winner. do we have time for one more? this is too good! smerconish, you gain followers because you are the only on-air person willing to deal with both sides. proud of cnn for having you on. hey, bobby, i don't know why they invited me to host that
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program last night, a one-week recap of the trump administration, but i would like to think it's because there was a recognition that both sides would be represented last night. and they were. follow me on twitter. i'll see you next week. top of the hour. 7:00 p.m. eastern. i'm poppy harlow in new york. and we begin tonight with breaking news. president trump speaking out about his controversial executive order, barring 134 million people from seven muslim majority countries from entering the united states. >> it's not a muslim ban, but we're totally prepared to work it out very nicely. you see it at the airports, you see it all over. it's working out very nicely. and we're going to have a very, very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. >> this comes as protesters gather outside of new