tv State of the Union With Jake Tapper CNN January 29, 2017 6:00am-7:01am PST
a very different america. dramatic new moves at the stroke of president trump's pen. >> we'll have a very, very strict ban and we'll have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. >> as the president bans people temporarily from seven majority muslim countries from entering the u.s. and suspends the entire refugee program. >> no hate, no fear, refugees are welcome here! >> we will fight this any place, any where. >> with travelers trapped at airports amid confusion with the
new rules, how will the world react? and working the phones, president trump talks to putin. >> i hope we have a fantastic relationship. that is possible. and it is also possible that we won't. >> what was said? the very latest details. plus, promises kept. >> we will build a great wall. >> build that wall! >> from beginning the process of building the border wall to ending sanctuary cities, president trump is making moves to make good on his campaign pledges. what's next on his rapid-fire to-do list? and the best political minds will be here with insights on president trump's first full week in office. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is chaotic with no consultation with key allies, many experts, president trump issued an executive order that
would suspend for four months indefinitely syrian refugees. and any citizen from seven majority countries like iran, iran, sudan, yemen, somalia, and libya and syria. they will comply with judicial orders while continuing, quote, to enforce all the president's executive orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of american people. the statement adds, quote, no foreign national in a foreign land has any unfettered land to demand entry into the united states, end quote. protests swarmed major airports yesterday demanding an end to the travel ban and more protests
are planned across the country today. the government says 109 travelers have been denied entry and another 173 we are told not to board aircraft coming to the u.s. the emergency court stay means those in the u.s. can remain for know, but some are still detained at the airport. we have asked for clarity and explanation of what the president just did, especial lip given so much confusion within its own government by those who are supposed to carry out the order. the trump white house declined our invitation. so we'll turn to jim sciutto. this was signed at 4:42 on friday. what is the latest on that? >> we know the department of homeland security received final details only on friday. the national counter terrorism
council never received information on this. if you are taking people into the country, knowing the details, that has led to problems we have seen at airports home and abroad. but it raises questions about the rational. if the ptwo primary agencies responsible for national security didn't know details, this was an unprecedented move. >> i am told that people are firmly behind this executive order and not be distracted by the hysterical voices on television. the sources also told me miller discussed the preliminary discussion being kicked around right now, and that would be to ask foreign visitors to the u.s. to provide names of the websites and social media sites they visit. and to provide all the contracts on their cell phone. if the foreign visitor refuszs to turn that over, they would be
denied entry. this is a preliminary idea being discussed. does the u.s. government have pan manpower to do something like that? >> certainly not at the irpt airports. in the visa applications, you can mandate the manpower necessary to do that. and there are clear questions. one of the san bernardino shooters, she had postings that were missed in her own visa process. so that is something that many in the counter terror community have raised questions about, how can we do this better you are going to do this for everybody without clear prioritizing, it is unclear if you have the necessary people to do that today. >> president trump put steve bannon, the former publisher of breitbart, to the national security council. is it odd to have such a
partisan political figure on the national security counciouncil? >> certainly unprecedented. the meetings started back in george h.w. bush's administration. and since then you have had the chairman of joint chiefs of staff and the director of national intelligence in there in the current council. but bannon, the ad visor, is taking out the chairman of the joint chiefs and the director of national intelligence who are senate confirmed. again, it raises questions about whose voices will be heard most prominently for the key decisions in this country. >> we'll talk about this with rob portman of ohio. senator, thank you so much. we appreciate it. i want to start with the executive order that president trump signed into law on friday. three of your fellow republican senators, susan collins and jeff
flake came out to say this went too far. senator ben saase says it was too far. you agree? >> so far we have seen implementation problems. >> what should be done now? >> we need to slow down. there are hysterical voices on both sides of this. two points, one, our country is not as safe as they should be. i'm on the homeland security and i know there's not apt screening, particularly on the visa programs. so we need to tighten things up. and there's general consensus about that. congress passed legislation to do that at the tend of 2015. but we have to do it consistent with our national values and national security. we are speaking of hope and opportunity for the rest of the world. that's our self-image and the important part of our foreign
policy. so we have to do it in a way that makes sense. and we have a clinic doctor who was turned away last night apparently. that's not the way to do it. >> yeah, let's talk about the cleveland clinic doctor. her name is sue, she holds a passport from sudan going to the cleveland clinic. she was forced to leave even though she holds a visa for workers in specialty occupations. did sending the ohio doctor and keep her from coming to the united states make us safe her? >> no, because she's been properly vetted. but there are other examples of one, the san bernardino killer, she did come here on a fiancee visa. we found out later she was on websites talking about her jihadist views and yet somehow that was not picked up. so there are ways to ensure the screening is better. but we have to be sure it is targeted. part of the problem is we don't have the resources to do that kind of broad vetting. we need more resources at the department. we also need to know who is
coming into the country and who leaves and the notion we don't have the exit entry program and good data order on visas here. it is surprising to my constituents. there are things we can and should do. >> do you think the temporary ban for four months from these seven countries coming into the united states is consistent with american values? you spoke against the muslim ban when president trump voiced it in 2015/'16. a lot of people think this is a smaller version of a ban fighting seven muslim majority countries. by the way, nudge of the 9/11 hijackers came from these seven countries. you have a lot of immigrants in columbus, ohio, who are literally crying this weekend because they are not able to bring over their loved ones who are terrified of being killed by terrorists in somalia. is this consistent with american values? >> again, this needs to be based on the facts. and my understanding of the executive order does not list
all the countries, it lists syria and iraq, but precisely these would be included as i talked to jeh johnson who said these would be included. i do think we need to have tighter screenings. the idea is to have better requirements, but it needs to be something to work on together. kro congress played a role here. this was an extreme vetting program that was not properly vetted. >> and the last thing before i move on to other issues, what are you going to tell the somali women trying to get their children to the united states who have just been told nobody from somalia can come into the country for four months? this could literally be -- i don't want to be hysterical, but this literally could be a matter of life and death for these
refugees. >> yeah, well, look, again we need to figure out exactly what the executive order says and it doesn't cover all the countries specifically. >> but it -- it mentions syria and iraq. and then it refers to congressional legislation that covers the other five that i mentioned including somalia. >> the previous homeland security secretary had named the countries because of a lack of information and the fact that either isis or al qaeda was present in those countries. >> but ending -- senator, you know this, ending the visa waiver program for those countries is not the same as ending emission of anybody from those countries. >> again, it is a temporary ban as i understand it. in my view, we aught to take a deep breath and come up with something that makes sense for national security and again for this notion that america has always been a welcoming home for refugees and immigrants. we are more welcoming than any country in the world and we should continue to do so. >> do you want to undo what
president trump did? >> two judges now have issued stays and that is appropriate. let's allow the people who came here legally to this country to get out of detention, allow them to go to the cleveland clinic, for instance, as this doctor was banned from doing so. and let's take a look at this entire situation. >> so you think the senate, the congress needs to take a look at this and get involved in it? >> we aught to be part of this. we have been working on this legislation in that regard. and we had bipartisan legislation in 2016 that didn't pass. it passed the house with big numbers that went a little further in terms of some of the procedures. so we need to work together on it. >> so you want the stay to stay. >> i'm okay with the stay and i think we aught to also improve our national security by improving the screening process of the people coming into our country. >> let's turn to another matter of national security. one that i know you're eager to talk about, and that has to do with russia. president trump is meeting with vladimir putin. and there's the question of lifting sanctions on russia.
you opposed them. will you reimpose them legislatively? >> i'm a co-sponsor of legislation to do that. so these are not something a president could change. >> put them into law. >> codify. russia has violated our law in taking of crimea. and on the eastern border of ukraine is the reason for the sanctions. the big mistake for american foreign policy, too. when sanctions are put in place, they can be relieved for other reasons. i strongly urge them not to move forward until the sanctions are put in place as a result. >> and british prime minister theresa may said what you just said. the sanctions can't be lifted until russia resolves what they have done in yeukrain syria, et
cetera. but president trump seems to be more ambivalent and have a more open mind about it. obviously, every president comes to office thinking we're going to have a better relationship with russia. george w. bush did it, barack obama did it. but this seems to be something else. because he never said a critical word of vladimir putin as a candidate. do you know why that is? >> i just saw his statement earlier on your program where he said i hope to have a better relationship with russia. that may or may not happen. that's the right attitude. look, we all would like to see a better relationship with the country that has arsenal nuclear weapons and good influence around the world. we have common enemies like isis. but the fact is russia continues to take actions whether it's on the eastern border of ukraine, crimea, or what they have done in syria and other things in terms of human rights not consistent with our national security. we in ed to stand up to ensure we are not sending the wrong
message to our allies and adversaries. >> so you already have this legislation, and you're going to put it forward. what if it passes the house and senate and then trump vetoes it? will you push for the override of the veto? >> yes, if it is legislation i agree with, of course i would. i think there's a good chance for the bipartisan leadership, there's a general house in the senate, that we need to ensure a clear message is sent. this is not imposing new sanctions but to make sure the existing sanctions stay in place. >> senator rob portman, thank you very being here. coming up, the trump immigration ban is called shameful. mayor de blasio is joining me next. thank you for joining us. companies in the country. after expanding our fiber network coast to coast. these are the places we call home. we are centurylink.
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nicely. and we're going to have a very strict ban and extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. thank you, everybody. >> an emergency stay issued by a judge late last night prevents authorities from deporting traveler who is had already arrived in the united states with valid visas. but it is still unclear how many people are currently detained and where exactly they will go. i'm joined by new york city mayor bill de blasio, a democrat. i know you oppose donald trump's executive orders. i want to ask you about the implementations of the executive orders. it seems to be fairly chaotic at jfk aircraft. was there guidance about the new policy to people like you or the people who run your airports? and how it was to be carried out? >> no, there was no guidance. and obviously, there was not clear guidance to federal officials around the country. that's why there is so much confusion here. but let's be clear, president
trump's executive order is simply un-american. it is suggesting that people's civil liberties can be taken away, even if they are green card holders and permanent residents on the pathway to citizenship. i have read this executive order. it makes no distinction if someone has a green card and is already recognized on the pathway to citizenship. if you have serve in the u.s. military previously, you still can be detained. in this country, the notion of detention without due process, without probable cause or a charge against you violates our constitutional norms. so i look and think today that a lot of republicans and independents are looking at this with a great deal of concern. anyone who is a libertarian should be deeply concerned to see our government detaining people for no apparent reason and denying them their rights. look, this is a city with 800,000 people who are permanent residents of the united states of america. this sends a horrible message to them that for no reason whatsoever they could be
detained or sent back to their home country, even though they are now part of the krits. >> mr. mayor, how many people are being detained at the new york city airports? >> yaik, we ajake, we are tryin clear picture. even though judge donnelly's decision last night was quite clear that the action by the president was stayed and people should not be detained. we're still not clear that the trump administration has honored that decision by a federal judge. >> now there have been times in the nation's history when detainees or refugees or immigrants from a specific country were put on hold, were suspended. barack obama did it with iraqis for six months. jimmy carter did it with iranians during that hostage crisis. how is this different? >> reporter: well, i can tell you this much, we have seven nations included with no criteria whatsoever.
again, someone may already be a permanent resident of the united states and may have served in the military, according to the executive order, they can be detained and sent back for no clear, specific reason. on top of that, look at the point in this executive order on religion. this is -- should be chilling to anyone in america who cares about religious liberty. there is an exception made, a potential for the exception made for anyone who is not muslim. there are no exceptions allowed for someone who is muslim. that goes against our constitutional values as well. if the executive order said, here are a list of things -- great. the only category it allows for people to be considered for entry is if they are non-muslim. >> what the executive order says is it provides for priortization if these people are from the muslim countries. but theoretically, a shia-muslim
could be considered a religious minority, no? >> i understand that point, but be careful on that. the notion that there is not a pattern of exception for individuals that the only igs case suggests publicly non-muslims should be very worrisome here. a lot of people are worried about moving to this registry, which would be unavoidable and unacceptable. medical professionals and those who work to do work and people who have served in our military, that will be one thing. but the indication here is it certainly leans against people coming from the muslim majority in our nations. and it helps somebody who is a law-abiding citizen coming here with the right to entry. anyone who cares about civil
liberties, this is a bipartisan statement because there are a lot of republicans and independent who is care deeply about the constitution and civil liberties. they should be worried right now. and i'm appreciating three senators have stepped up and a lot more republicans should be speaking out right now. >> let's turn to new york's status as a sanctuary city. president trump said he would halt fundings to municipalities that do not cooperate with officials to enforce immigration law. you threatened to sue in response to the order. the question is, if your lawsuit fails, would new york city be willing to give up tens of thousands of dollars to maintain its status as a sanctuary city? >> the sanctuary city definition is misunderstood. the simple number one reason we have a different approach to immigrants in this city, we have half a million people here undocumented and our police department has felt for decades
and if they feel by talking to a police officer it could lead to information being shared to deportation -- this goes back 20 years. we believe the biggest way to keep safe is to work with the communities to make ourselves safe. and the executive order is very vague and filled with that that diction. if there's an attempt to implement, there's not been an attempt to implement, but we'll go to court to have it stayed just like the most recent ruling. the specific cut would be for the homeland department of er the --
>> under a new sanctuary city that you approved in 2014, the city of new york shields from the feds undocumented immigrants who commit what are deemed to be lesser offenses. but they include drunk driving and grand larceny. why shouldn't the city of new york comply with federal law in this area if they are a drunk driver and undocumented immigrant. why should there be a place for you in this country? >> there are 170 offenses that list serious and violent crimes that lead to automatic cooperation between the city of new york and the federal partners. so any serious and violent crime, we're going to work with them. someone commits a minor offense, for example, right now if you don't have clear decorations like i had, someone went through a stop sign and they could be deported for that. and their family could be torn apart. and you could have children left behind where the breadwinner in
the family is sent home to their home country. that's not good for anyone. anyone that is a serious threat to society, we will work with federal partners and they will get deported. but we are not going to see with half a million undocumented people here, this would be true for 11 to 12 million undocumented folkses in this country, the vast majority are law-abiding, we are not going to see families torn apart over a minor offense. >> is grand larcenynist and drunk driving a minor offense? >> drunk driving does not lead to another other outcomes. but look at the 170 offenses. anything involving a weapon or violence. those areas where we are getting cooperation could be a model for perceiving this as a nation. if anyone does a serious crime, they shouldn't be here. but the vast majority of people don't. some small offense is not a
reason toer the apart a family, think about this, 11 to 12 million americans, if they start to feel like they cannot talk to a police officer, cannot say if they have been a victim of a crime, they can't go to a police officer to tell them they witnessed a crime, they can't talk to people because they are scared of deportation, that would be corrosive and make us less safe day to day in our communities. that's why it is taking us in the wrong direction. >> new york city mayor bill de blasio, thank you for coming on the show. coming up, more protests planned at airports around the country. will donald trump's ban hold up under legal protest? stay with us. and my life is basketball.west, but that doesn't stop my afib from leaving me at a higher risk of stroke. that'd be devastating.
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>> that was donald trump last march giving his views on islam and muslims while the executive order issued friday bans citizens from seven majority muslim countries for 90 days. trump insisted yesterday it's not a muslim ban but, quote, extreme vetting. lots to discuss with our panel, we have anna novarro, jan brewer and cnn political commentator bakari sellers. your job for president barack obama was to explain the muslim world to the white house and help to explain the united states to the wmuslim world. what do you think about the events of this past weekend? >> we must keep america safe. and we want president trump to be successful in defeating isis and related organizations. but the executive order has a premise of 9/11. and by that rationale, it doesn't make any sense.
the strategy is flawed. and it doesn't have any intellectual rigor. we have to get to the actual meat of the issue, which is ideas matter. their ideas have no borders and you can't built an idea wall. you can't ban all the countries in the world in which the bad ideas are sprouting. so when you look at what is actually taking place, and we think about what this is going to do, it really takes away from the goal that he has set out for himself. it doesn't have the rationale that we need it to. and it is very important to understand that both in the bush administration and in the obama administration we understood that the power to stop recruitment came from civil society. you can't set up an us versus them. we need to have muslims around the world working with us to stop recruitment. and the way to do that is to engage them. if you don't have trust with the government, you can't engage them, you can't galvanize the movement that we need. and i'm afraid what has happened here is that it has stoked the idea of an us and them. it has given power to the
extremists and will not get us where we need to go. the measure of success and seriousness of the trump doctrine on terrorism really will be how serious they are with regard to saudi arabia where. the ideas have actually been sprouting for decades. so as we think through what they're doing and why they are doing it, the rationale doesn't make sense. it is flawed. and we have to really be thinking about the long-term impact. our actions make a difference. our words make a difference. and the bottom line is we need to have partners that can work with us to stop recruitment. >> anna navarro, are you surprised that the republicans who came out against the muslim ban a year ago, that this is a ban on seven majority countries, are you surprised that republican officials are being so quiet? >> i think people are exhausted. i think the flurry of this week
has been a dizzying pace. and so many are speaking out consistently this week against the charge there were 3 million illegal voters, against the tariffs against mexico, g eps the idea of the wall, against not investigating russia for hacking. so i think it is such a -- steady rain of things that they have to confront trump on that it's been an emotionally exhausting week. i have friends telling me, i disagree with this. it is an un-american executive order. but i can't survive politically if i'm confronting the man every day. d but this is one as exhausted as they may be, republicans need to appeal to the principles of what is wrong to american values and they need to speak up. the republican party i grew up in as a republican party of family unity. what we saw yesterday were families being torn apart. what we saw yesterday was violations of the constitution. we don't treat different people different ways. we don't impose a religious test. and the folks may want to tell
us, this is not a muslim ban. i'll tell you who thinks it's a muslim ban, muslims think it's a muslim ban. those who want a muslim ban like little boy flynn and david duke, the former kkk leader, are celebrating it as a muslim ban. and those of us who don't want a muslim ban see it as such. >> governor, what is your take? >> well, that was a lot to take in, ana. >> that was a lot of opinions. what do you think? >> i believe that president trump is doing exactly what he campaigned on. he was elected president. and now he's delivering the good. people in america want to be secure and safe. and with the ban, i think that it is perfectly fine to put it on a pause and do the complete vetting. and we have to address the issue of also all the overstayed visas. last year alone in 2015 there were 500,000 overstayed visas. and 1% were investigated. and this continues on and on and on. we know that americans want to be safe. and our allegiance first and
foremost aught to be to our citizens. >> our citizens look like the entire world, though. >> absolutely they do. >> and i have to agree with governor brewer to the one point that donald trump is keeping campaign promises. but the problem with that is he's breaking the promises to our constitution, to our founding fathers and partners around the world. ana said it clearly, i saw senator portman squirm and talk about similar antics of whether it is a muslim ban or not, but there are a lot of people who feel persecuted by that. even more, it's a religious test in there. if you are a religious minority in a muslim country, you somehow get precedence. so what we started down yesterday was more than a slippery slope. i mean, today, i feel like i'm a muslim and refugee because dr. king said injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. and i think that is what you're seeing around the country. >> i have to say -- actually, i would eradicate -- i was a legal resident. and this last week is very important for one reason.
for many years now republicans attacked president obama legitimately so against taking action through executive order. against not working with congress. particularly on issues like immigration. and this week is important because it is precedent setting. it's setting a tone. and i think republicans in congress need to speak up so they are not run over by this trump administration. and so that the trump administration works with people who know what they are doing as opposed to people in the white house who have zero idea. they are either heartless or incompetent or both. >> okay, everybody, hold it right there. we'll come right back and hold that thought. president trump was quick to say his executive order was not a muslim ban, but the president also says he wants to give christian refugees priority. what is in the policy? that's next.
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as it relates to persecuted christians, do you see them as kind of a priority here? >> yes. >> you do? >> yes, they have been horribly treated. if you were a christian in syria, it was impossible, or very tough to get into the united states. if you were muslim, you cold come in. but if you were christian, it was almost impossible. and the reason that was so unfair is that the -- everybody was persecute in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody. but more so the christians. >> that was president trump talking to christian broadcasting network's david brody, just a quick fact-check, not broken down by syria, but in terms of general refugees admitted to the united states according to pew, muslim refugees, 38,901. kris clan refugees, 37,521. not impossible to get in. back with the roundtable, governor brewer, you took issue with some of the things said by some of the other panelists. >> in regards to a muslim ban, if that was true, then he would have banned all the people
coming in from all the other countries, turkey, indonesia, he has not done that. i believe that the administration probably had high intelligence reports that these countries that he has named, there's a danger there. and he promised the people of america, the united states, that he was going to keep us safe. >> i cannot name a single country where one of the 9/11 hijackers came from. why not name uae or saudi arabia or russia where the boston bombers came from. >> the bottom line is that they chose these countries based on, i would assume, intelligence. >> governor, that's assuming on january 19th that there was one kind of intelligence, and on january 20th there was another kind of intelligence. that's assuming that president obama didn't want to keep america safe. and that he didn't have the kind of wisdom to be able to put certain countries on that list. america is made up of the most diverse group of muslims anywhere in the world.
and they represent every country on the planet. but the rationale of this executive order, you would have to put every country in the world on that list. what every security expert knows is that the greatest threat we have right now is happening inside the homeland. we have isis cells in every single state. what we aught to be doing and what the president can do in defeati defeating isis, is to not allow radicalization from happening. this is mom conot coming from t so-called wall here, but it's coming from the motion of young people and the issue of identity. we have to be vigilant in what we have learned over the years. >> part of the reason that did not happen is because the security experts were not consulted. it should be worrisome to everybody including my party that the department of homeland security was not consulted. that general john kelly, a man who has served this country, a
four-star general, a marine, a patriot, did not learn about this order until hours before he was supposed to start implementing. his department was supposed to start implements. that the department expressed concern about being implemented on legal permanent residence and got overridden by those in the white house, though they may not be in the national security council, but it should be worrisome. we should establish the inner agency working groups. there are reasons to have experts at the department of state, at the department of homeland security, to be implementing this. this should not be done by folks without experience and nothing but campaign fulfillments in the white house. >> the american people want our country to -- >> everybody does. >> and he has surrounded himself, president trump has surrounded himself with very,
very intelligent cabinet members. and intelligent white house infiltrators -- >> but they are not allowed in. >> you don't know that. >> i read about the executive order less than 24 hours before it was signed. >> if i can chime in quickly, you started down the path of this christian preference, as a christian, this is deeply concerning because this is not what our country was built upon. i may get in trouble of this, but this is the antithesis of christianity. the fact is we are a country built on vast religions. we are a country that is built on -- beautiful people of all races of all shades. and the fact that we are now -- give us just some not all? i mean, it's amazing that people are now just pro-some lives when just this week everybody was pro-life and now everybody is just pro-some lives. >> we accept more people's visas coming in and traveling in our country than any other country.
we are. and we understand that is what we are based on. >> i don't think that is accurate. >> it is correct. >> i will tell you, the obama administration owns the inaction on what happened in syria. and the republicans will own this if we don't speak up. thank you. during a whirlwind first week, president trump found time to decorate the white house. what he's added to the oval office is this subject's state of the union cartoon coming up next.
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