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a very different america. dramatic new moves at the stroke of president trump's pen. >> we'll have a very, very strict ban and we'll have extreme vetting, which we should have had in this country for many years. >> as the president bans people temporarily from seven majority muslim countries from entering the u.s. and suspends the entire refugee program. >> no hate, no fear, refugees are welcome here! >> we will fight this any place, anywhere. >> with travelers trapped at airports amid confusion with the new rules, how will the world react? and working the phones, president trump talks to putin.
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>> i hope we have a fantastic relationship. that is possible. and it is also possible that we won't. >> what was said? the very latest details. plus, promises kept. >> we will build a great wall. >> build that wall! >> from beginning the process of building the border wall to ending sanctuary cities, president trump is making moves to make good on his campaign pledges. what's next on his rapid-fire to-do list? and the best political minds will be here with insights on president trump's first full week in office. hello, i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is chaotic with no consultation with key allies, many key agencies and experts, "piers morgan tonight" issued an executive order throwing immigration and refugee policy into somewhat of a state of confusion. the order would suspend for four
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months the refugee policy, indefinitely the syrian refugee policy, and any citizen from seven majority countries deemed a national security concern, iraq, iran, sudan, yemen, somalia, and syria. they will comply with judicial many officials are unclear of how to execute what to do with those in transited, what about green card holders? hours ago, they were granted an emergency reprieve, allowing citizens of the countries in transit with valid visas to remain in the u.s. the department siz it will comply with orders while continuing to enforce of the president's executive orders that insures the safety and security of the american people. it adds, quote, no foreign national in a foreign land has any unfettered right to demand entry into the united states. protests swarmed major airports yesterday demanding an end to the travel ban and more protests are planned across the country today. as of last night, the government says 109 travelers had been
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denied entry and another 173 were told not to board aircraft coming to the u.s. the emergency court stay means those in the u.s. can remain for now, but some are still detained at airports. we invited the trump white house to offer us a guest to provide clarity and an explanation of what the president just did, especially given so much confusion, even within its own government by those who are supposed to carry out this order. the trump white house declined our invitation. let's turn to our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto. this was signed at 4:42 on friday. it took effect immediately. who knew about this before that? >> we know the department of homeland security received final details only on friday. we know john kelly received the final details onlioon friday. same true for the career staff, the national counterterrorism center also not consulted in the decision making process on this, which, one, raises questions which we have seen the problems about implementation, if you don't have the actual officers and agencies responsible for
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taking people into the country, knowing the details, that has led to some of the problems we have seen at airports, home and abroad. but also raises questions about the rationale. if the two agencies weren't part of the decision making process, what was the rationale behind the process. >> i am told that people are firmly behind this executive order and not be distracted by the hysterical voices on television. that's how he put it. the sources also told me miller discussed the preliminary idea being kicked around in the u.s. government right now, and that would be to ask foreign visitors to the u.s. to provide names of the websites and social media sites they visit. and to provide all the contacts on their cell phones. if the foreign visitor refuses to turn it over, they would be denied entry. this is a preliminary idea being discussed. does the u.s. government have pan manpower to do something like that?
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>> certainly not at airports. you can imagine showing up at the airport, going through your phone. how would you go through all the social media websites, et cetera. in the visa applications, you could allocate the manpower necessary to do that. there are legitimate questions. one of the san bernardino shooters, she had had some postings of jihadist message, et cetera, which were missed in her own visa process. so that is something that many in the counter terror community have raised questions about, how can do this better. if you're going to do it for absolutely everybody without a sense of prioritizing, it's unclear today that you have the people necessary to do that. >> quickly, if you could, another executive order, "piers morgan tonight" rejiggers the national security counsel, putting steve bannon on the national security council. is it odd to have such a partisan political figure on the national security council? >> certainly unprecedented. this started, this pinlsples
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meeting started back in the george h.w. bush administration. you have always said the joint chairman of the national chiefs, the director of national intelligen intelligence. in the current iteration, they will come in as necessary but not as regular members. i should also note that you're putting in someone who is not senate confirmed, bannon, and taking out two people, the chairman of the joint chiefs and director of national intelligence, who are senate confirmed. it raises question about whose voices are going to be heard most prominently for the key national security decisions of the country. >> let's talk more about this with republican senator rob portman of ohio. senator, thanks so much for being here. i want to start with the executive order that president trump signed into law on friday. three of your fellow republicans now came out and said that the order goes too far. let me show you the statement from senator sasse which reads in part, while not technically a muslim ban, this order is too
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broad. do you agree? >> i agree with both of those. one, is not a ban. however, i think it was not properly vetted. so you have an extreme vetting proposal that didn't get the vetting it should have had. as a result, ain the implementation, we have seen problems. >> what do you think should be done now? >> i think we should slow down. there was a discussion about hysterical voices on both sides of this. let's make two points. one, our kunltsry is not as safe as it should be. i'm on the homeland security committee. we have had plenty of testimony about the fact there is not adequate screening, and so i do think we need to tighten things up. i think there's a general consensus about that. congress passed legislation to do so at the end of 2015. but second, we have do it in a way that is consistent with our values and consistent with our national security. and we are this beacon of hope and opportunity for the rest of the world. that's our self-image and a part of our foreign policy. we have to do it in a way that makes sense. we have a cleveland clinic
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doctor who was turned away last night, apparently. that's not the way to do it. >> let's talk about that doctor because we have her picture up there. she holds a passport from sudan. she was going to the cleveland clinic. she was forced to leave even though she holds a visa for workers in special occupations. did sending that ohio for out of the country, did it make the united states safer? >> no. because she's been properly vetted. but there are other examples of one, the san bernardino killer, she did come here on a fiancee visa. we found out, the homeland security council later, she had been on websites talking about her jihadist views and somehow that had not been picked up. so there are ways to ensure the screening is better. but we have to be sure it is targeted. part of the problem is we don't have the resources to do that kind of broad vetting. we need more resources at the department. we also need to know who is coming into the country and who leaves and the notion we don't have the exit entry program and good data on visa holders here
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is really surprising to my constituents. there are things we can and should do. >> do you think the temporary ban for four months from these seven countries coming into the united states is consistent with american values? you spoke against the muslim ban when president trump voiced it in 2015, 2016. a lot of people think that this is just a smaller version of a muslim ban finding seven majority muslim countries. >> by the way, none of the 9/11 hijackers came from these seven countries. you have tens of thousands of somali refugees and immigrants in columbus, ohio, who are literally crying this weekend because they're not able to bring over their loved ones who are terrified of being killed by terrorists in somalia. is this consistent with american values? >> again, this needs to be based on the facts. and my understanding of the executive order does not list all the countries, it lists syria and iraq, but precisely these would be included as i
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countries jeh johnson included previously based on theolog slagz i talked with regard to the visa waiver program and the visa program. you have to go to these countries and say are you going to provide us the information we need on the people coming into our country. if they will, then you allow that to happen. if they don't, i do think you need to have tighter screening. that's the idea here, to have better requirements, but it needs to be something we work on together, also. congress played a role here. the executive branch ageanies have been involved with this. this is an extreme vetting program that wasn't properly vetted. >> and the last thing before i move on to other issues, what are you going to tell the somali women trying to get their children to the united states who have just been told nobody from somalia can come into the country for four months? this could literally be -- i don't want to be hysterical, but this literally could be a matter of life and death for these refugees. >> yeah, well, look, again we need to figure out exactly what
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the executive order says and it doesn't cover all the countries specifically. >> but it -- it mentions syria and iraq. and then it refers to congressional legislation that covers the other five that i mentioned including somalia. >> the previous homeland security secretary had named the countries because of a lack of information and the fact that either isis or al qaeda was present in those countries. >> but ending -- senator, you know this, ending the visa waiver program for those countries is not the same as ending admission of anybody from those countries. >> again, it is a temporary ban as i understand it. in my view, we ought to take a deep breath and come up with something that makes sense for our national security, and again, for this notion that america has always been a welcoming home for refugees and immigrants. we're more welcoming than any country in the world and we should continue to do so. >> do you want to undo what president trump did? >> at this point, there's a stay in effect. two judges have issued a stay, and that's appropriate.
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let's allow the people who came here legally to this country to get out of detention, allow them to go to the cleveland clinic, for instance, as this doctor was banned from doing so. and let's take a look at this entire situation. >> so you think the senate, the congress needs to take a look at this and get involved in it? >> we ought to be part in it. we have been working on this. we passed legislation in this regard. and we had bipartisan legislation in 2016 that didn't pass. it passed the house with big numbers that went a little further in terms of some of the procedures. so we need to work together on it. >> so you want the stay to stay. >> i'm okay with the stay and i think we ought to also improve our national security by improving the screening process of these people coming into our country. >> let's turn to another matter of national security. one that i know you're eager to talk about, and that has to do with russia. "piers morgan tonight" president trump spoke by phone with vladimir putin yesterday. there's a question of whether he's going to lift sanctions on russia. you opposed them. will you reimpose them legislatively? >> i'm a co-sponsor of
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legislation to do that. proactive legislation to say let's make sure these are codified, not something the president could change. >> put them into law. >> codify. russia has clearly violated our international law. their dangerous acts including the taking of crimea and even on the border of ukraine today, are the reason for these sanctions. to relieve these sanctions would be a huge mistake. by the way, a huge mistake for american foreign policy, too. when sanctions are put in place, they can be relieved for other reasons. i would strongly urge the administration not to move forward with removing the sanctions until the reason the sanctions are put in place are resolved. >> on friday when british prime minister turea may was here in the united states, she said what you said, the sanctions can't be lifted until russia resolves what they have done in ukraine, not to mention other things they have done in other places. in georgia, syria, crimea. >> i'm counting crimea as ukraine. >> thank you.
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but president trump seems to be more ambivalent and have a more open mind about it. obviously, every president comes to office thinking we're going to have a better relationship with russia. george w. bush did it, barack obama did it, but this seems to be something else. because he's never even said one critical word of vladimir putin as a candidate or a president. do you have any insight as to why that is? >> look, i just saw his statement earlier on your program, where he said i hope to have a better relationship with russia. it would be in our national interests, that may happen, it may not happen. that's the right attitude. we would like to have a better relationship with a country that has an arsenal of nuclear weapons, and we have common enemies including isis, but russia continues to take actions, whether it's on the eastern border of ukraine or crimea or syria or other things, in terms of human rights, that are not consistent with our national security. we need to stand up and we need to insure that we're not sending the wrong message to our allies and to our adversaries. >> so you already have this legislation.
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and you're going to put it forward. what if it passes the house and senate and then president trump vetoes it will you push for an override of the veto? >> of course, if it's legislation i agree with, of course i would. there's a good chance we can have this be bipartisan. in the senate, our sponsorship is equally divided. there's a general sense that we need to insure that a clear message is sent. this is not imposing new sanctions, by the way, as much as making sure the existing sanctions stay in place. >> coming up next, new york city mayor bill de blasio calls the immigration ban shameful. he's joining me next live. thanks for joining us. ♪ (vo) do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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welcome back. while protests were underway yesterday at nearly every international airport in the united states, president trump apired in the oval office to harold how smoothly his hastily executed travel ban was going. >> it's not a muslim ban, but we are totally prepared. it's working out very nicely. you cisee it at the airports, a over. it's working out very nicely and we're going to have a very, very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting. and we should have had in this country for many years. thank you, everybody.
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>> an emergency stay issued by a judge late last night prevents authorities from deporting travelers who had already arrived in the united states with valid visas. but it is still unclear how many people are currently detained and where exactly they will go. i'm joined by new york city mayor bill de blasio, a democrat. mr. mayor, thanks for being here. i know you oppose president trump's executive order on immigration and refugee policy. i want to ask you about the implementation of those executive order. it seems to be fairly chaotic at jfk airport. was there guidance about the new policy to people like you or the people who run your airports? and how it was to be carried out? >> no, there was no guidance. and obviously, there was not clear guidance to federal officials around the country. that's why there is so much confusion here. but let's be clear, president trump's executive order is simply un-american. it is suggesting that people's civil liberties can be taken away, even if they are green
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card holders and permanent residents on the pathway to citizenship. i have read this executive order. it makes no distinction if someone has a green card and is already recognized on the pathway to citizenship. it makes no distinction if you have served in the u.s. military previously. you still could be detained. in this country, the notion of detention without due process, without probable cause or a charge against you violates our constitutional norms. i think today, a lot of republicans and independents are looking at this with a great deal of concern. anyone who is a libertarian should be deeply concerned to see our government detaining people for no apparent reason and denying them their rights. look, this is a city with 800,000 people who are permanent residents of the united states of america. this sends a horrible message to them that for no reason whatsoever they could be detained or sent back to their home country, even though they are now part of the life of the united states. >> mr. mayor, how many people are being detained at the new york city airports?
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do you know? >> jake, we are trying to get a clear picture. there certainly do appear to be people still detained even though judge donnelly's decision last night was quite clear that the action by the president was stayed and people should not be detained. we're still not clear that the trump administration has honored that decision by a federal judge. >> now there have been times in the nation's history when detainees -- not detainees but refugees or immigrants from a specific country were put on hold, suspended. barack obama did it with iraqis for six months. jimmy carter did it with iranians during that hostage crisis. how is this different? >> well, i don't know the details of those orders but i can tell you this much. you have seven nations that are included with no criteria whatsoever. again, someone may already be a permanent resident of the united states and may have served in the military, according to the executive order, they can be detained and sent back for no
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reason, no clear, specific reason. on top of that, look at the point in this executive order on religion. this is -- should be chilling to anyone in america who cares about religious liberty. there is an exception made, a potential for the exception made for anyone who is not muslim. there are no exceptions allowed for someone who is muslim. that goes against our constitutional values as well. if the executive order said, here are a list of things that might be considered exceptions and we'll weigh those, great. but the only category where it allows for people to be considered for entry is if they're non-muslim. >> what the executive order says is it provides for prioritization if people are of a religious minority in these countries, and obviously, they are majority muslim countries. we don't know whou it's going to to implemented. but theoretically, a shia-muslim could be considered a religious minority, no? >> i understand that point, but
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i would be careful on that. the notion that there is not a pattern of exception for individuals, that the only indication suggests bluntly nonmuslims should be very, very worrisome here. a lot of people are worried this is the first step towards a muslim registry, which would be un-american and unacceptable. if this was consistent with past practice and said here are a list of people we're going to look at for exceptions, medical professionals and folks who work for major corporations coming here to do work and people who have served in our military, that would be one thing. but the indication here is it certainly leans against people coming from the muslim majority in those nations. does not allow any clear indication of someone who is a law-abiding muslim coming here for a good reason to have the right to entry. anyone who cares about civil liberty, this is absolutely a bipartisan statement because there are a lot of republicans and independents who care about
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our constitution and our civil liberties. they should be worried right now. and i'm appreciating three republican senators have stepped up. a lot more republicans should be speaking out now. >> also part of his immigration policy, let's turn to new york's status as a sanctuary city. president trump said he would halt fundings to municipalities that do not cooperate with officials to enforce immigration law. you threatened to sue in response to the order. the question is, if your lawsuit fails, would new york city be willing to give up tens of millions of dollars in federal funding in order to maintainilities status as a sanctuary city? >> a couple quick points. the sanctuary city definition has been often misunderstood. simple number one reason we have a different approach to immigrants in this city, we have half a million people here who are undocumented, and our police department has felt for decades that it must have a working relationship with those folks, and if they feel that by talking to a police officer it could lead to the information being
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shared with the federal government and deportation, people are not going to work with police. this is a policy that goes back to rudy giuliani and ed coch, 20, 30 years back. we believe it's the best way to keep our city safe. we're the safest big city in america, and we have been working with our immigrant communities to make ourselves safe. we also believe the executive order is very vague and filled with contradiction and legally challengeable. so jake, rule one, we're going at this, if this is an attempt to implement, we will go to court to have it stayed just like this more recent executive order was stayed. the specific funding that would be cut here is the irony, jake. the specific funding could be from homeland security and justice for the nypd to fight terrorism. what president trump is saying is he's going to take away anti-tear rfl dollars from new york, the number one target in america while isolating the police. we're not going to stand for that. >> under a new sanctuary city law you approved in october
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2014, the of new york shields from the feds undocumented immigrants who commit what are deemed to be lesser offenses, but they include drunk driving and grand larceny. why shouldn't the city of new york comply with federal law in this area if you're a drunk driver and you're an undocumented immigrant, why should there be a place for you in this country? >> there are 170 offenses in that law that are listed as serious and violent crimes that lead to automatic cooperation between the city of new york and our federal partners. so any serious and violent crime, we're going to work with them. someone commits a minor offense. right now, if you didn't have clear definitions like we had, let's say someone had a small amount of marijuana, someone went through a stop sign. they could be deported for that, and their family could be torn apart. and you could have children left behind where the bread winner in the family is sent back to a home country. that is not good for anyone.
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so anyone who is violent, a serious threat to society, we agree, we'll work with the federal partners and they get deported. but we're not going to see with half a million undocumented people here, this would be true for 11 to 12 million undocumented folks in this country, the vast majority who are law abiding, we're flaw going to see families torn apart over a minor offense. >> is grand larsary or drunk driving a mining offense? >> drunk driving dothat doesn't lead to a major outcome, i could agree to that. look at the list of 170 offenses, anything with a weapon, anything with violence, those are the areas where we're cooperated. that could be a good model for how we proceed as a nation. anyone who does a serious crime, i agree, they shouldn't be here. but the vast majority of people don't commit any crime, and some, like so much of our population, do some small offense that's not a reason to tear apart a family. that's not going to do any good. and listen, again, think about this. 11 million to 12 million americans, if they start feeling
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like they can't talk to a police officer, cannot say if they have been a victim of a crime, they can't go to a police officer to tell them they witnessed a crime, they can't talk to people at a public hospital or school for fear of deportation, that's going to be corrosive in communities all across america. it's going to make us less safe day to day in our communities. that's why it's taking us in the wrong direction. >> new york city mayor bill de blasio, thank you for coming on the show. >> coming up, more protests planned at airports around the country. will trump's travel ban hold up under public and legal pressure? stay with us. (vo) maybe it was here, when you hit 300,000 miles. or here, when you walked away without a scratch. maybe it was the day your baby came home. or maybe the day you realized your baby was not a baby anymore. every subaru is built to earn your trust. because we know what you're trusting us with. subaru. kelley blue book's most trusted brand. and best overall brand. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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mr. trump, let me start with you. last night you told cnn, quote, islam hates us. did you mean all 1.6 billion muslims? >> i mean a lot of them. i mean a lot of them. >> that was donald trump last march giving his views on islam and muslims while the executive order issued friday bans
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citizens from seven majority muslim countries for 90 days. trump insisted yesterday it's not a muslim ban but, quote, extreme vetting. lots to discuss with our panel, we have with us, ana navarro, jan brewer, the former republican governor of arizona, and cnn political commentator bakari sellers. ana, you job for george w. bush and then barack obama was to help explain the muslim world to the white house and help explain the united states to the muslim world. what do you think of the events of the past weekend. >> jake, we can all agree that we must keep america safe. and we want president trump to be successful in defeating isis and related organizations. but the executive order has a premise of 9/11. by that rationale, it doesn't make any sense. the strategy is flawed. and it doesn't have any intellectual rigor. we have to get to the actual meat of the issue, which is ideas matter.
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their ideas have no borders and you can't built an idea wall. you can't ban all the countries in the world in which the bad ideas are sprouting. so when you look at what is actually taking place, and we think about what this is going to do, it really takes away from the goal that he has set out for himself. it doesn't have the rationale that we need it to. and it is very important to understand that both in the bush administration and in the obama administration we understood that the power to stop recruitment came from civil society. you can't set up an us versus them. we need to have muslims around the world working with us to stop recruitment. and the way to do that is to engage them. if you don't have trust with the government, you can't engage them, you can't galvanize the movement that we need. and i'm afraid what has happened here is that it has stoked the idea of an us and them. it has given power to the extremists and will not get us where we need to go. the measure of success and seriousness of the trump
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doctrine on terrorism really will be how serious they are with regard to saudi arabia, where these ideas have actually been sprouting for decades. so as we think through what they're doing and why they are doing it, the rationale doesn't make sense. it is flawed. and we have to really be thinking about the long-term impact. our actions make a difference. our words make a difference. and the bottom line is we need to have partners that can work with us to stop recruitment. >> ana navarro, are you surprised that so few republicans who came out against the quote/unquote muslim ban a year ago, are saying anything about, this is not a muslim ban, but it is a ban on people from seven majority muslim communities. are you surprised so many republican officials are being quiet? >> i think people are exhausted. i think the flurry of this week has been a dizzying pace. it's so hard to keep up. so many of them have been speaking out kinltly this week against the charge that there were 3 million illegal voters, against the tariffs against
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mexico, against the idea of the wall, against not investigating russia for hacking. so i think it is such a -- steady rain of things that they have to confront trump on that it's been an emotionally exhausting week. i have friends telling me, i disagree with this. it is an un-american executive order. but i can't survive politically if i'm confronting the man every day. but this is one as exhausted as they may be, republicans need to appeal to their sense of consciousinous, to their principles, to the right and wrong of american values and they need to speak up. the republican party i grew up in as a republican party of family unity. what we saw yesterday were families being torn apart. what we saw yesterday was violations of the constitution. we don't treat different people different ways. we don't impose a religious test. and the folks may want to tell us, this is not a muslim ban. i'll tell you who thinks it's a muslim ban, muslims think it's a muslim ban. those who want a muslim ban like
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little boy flynn and david duke, the former kkk leader, are celebrating it as a muslim ban. and those of us who don't want a muslim ban see it as such. >> governor, what is your take? >> well, that was a lot to take in, ana. >> that was a lot of opinions. what do you think? >> i believe that president trump is doing exactly what he campaigned on. he was elected president. and now he's delivering the goods. people in america want to be secure and safe. and with the ban, i think that it is perfectly fine to put it on a pause and do the complete vetting. and we have to address the issue of also all the overstayed visas. last year alone in 2015 there were 500,000 overstayed visas. and 1% were investigated. and this continues on and on and on. we know that americans want to be safe. and our allegiance first and foremost ought to be to our citiz citizens. >> our citizens look like the entire world, though. >> absolutely they do. >> and i have to agree with
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governor brewer to the one point that donald trump is keeping campaign promises. but the problem with that is he's breaking the promises to our constitution, to our founding fathers and partners around the world. ana said it clearly, i saw senator portman squirm and talk about semantics of whether or not it's a muslim ban or not, but the fact is there a lot of people in this country that feel persecuted by that. even more, it's a religious test in there. if you are a religious minority in a muslim majority country, you somehow get pres dns. so what we started down yesterday was more than a slippery slope. i mean, today, i feel like i'm a muslim, a refugee because as doctor king said, injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. and i think that is what you're seeing around the country. >> i have to say -- actually, i would eradicate -- i was a legal resident. and this last week is very important for one reason. for many years now republicans attacked president obama legitimately so against taking action through executive order.
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against not working with congress. particularly on issues like immigration. and this week is important because it is precedent setting. it's setting a tone. and i think republicans in congress need to speak up so they are not run over by this trump administration. and so that the trump administration works with people who know what they are doing as opposed to people in the white house who have zero idea. they are either heartless or incompetent or both. >> okay, everybody, hold it right there. we'll come right back and hold that thought. president trump was quick to say his executive order was not a muslim ban, but the president also says he wants to give christian refugees priority. what is in the policy? that's next. at used car? i don't want one that's had a big wreck just say, show me cars with no accidents reported find the cars you want, avoid the ones you don't plus you get a free carfax® report with every listing i like it start your used car search at carfax.com gave us the power to turn this enemy into an ally?
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as it relates to persecuted christians, do you see them as kind of a priority here? >> yes. >> you do? >> yes, they have been horribly treated. if you were a christian in
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syria, it was impossible, or very tough to get into the united states. if you were a muslim, you could come in. but if you were christian, it was almost impossible. and the reason that was so unfair is that the -- everybody was persecute in all fairness, but they were chopping off the heads of everybody. but more so the christians. >> that was president trump talking to christian broadcasting network's david brody, just a quick fact-check, not broken down by syria, but in terms of general refugees admitted to the united states according to pew, muslim refugees, 38,901. christian refugees, 37,521. not impossible to get in. back with the roundtable, governor brewer, you took issue with some of the things said by some of the other panelists. >> in regards to a muslim ban, if that was true, then he would have banned all the people coming in from all the other countries, turkey, indonesia, he has not done that. i believe that the administration probably had high
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intelligence reports that these countries that he has named, there's a danger there. and he promised the people of america, the united states, that he was going to keep us safe. >> i cannot name a single country where one of the 9/11 hijackers came from. why not name uae or saudi arabia or russia where the boston bombers came from? >> the bottom line is that they chose these countries based on, i would assume, intelligence. >> governor, that's assuming on january 19th that there was one kind of intelligence, and on january 20th there was another kind of intelligence. that's assuming that president obama didn't want to keep america safe. and that he didn't have the kind of wisdom to be able to put certain countries on that list. america is made up of the most diverse group of muslims anywhere in the world. and they represent every country on the planet. but the rationale of this executive order, you would have to put every country in the world on that list.
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what every security expert knows is that the greatest threat we have right now is happening inside the homeland. we have isis cells in every single state. what we ought to be doing and what the president can do to succeed in defeating isis, is to look inward, to raise up civil society that can push back and not allow radicalization from happening. this is not coming from the outside our country, along an idea wall, coming from an exploiritative motion for young people on the issue of identity. we have to be very vigilant in understanding what we have learned over the years. >> part of the reason that did not happen is because the security experts were not consulted. it should be worrisome to everybody including my party that the department of homeland security was not consulted. that general john kelly, a man who has served this country, a four-star general, a marine, a patriot, did not learn about this order until hours before he was supposed to start
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implementing. his department was supposed to start implementing. that the department expressed concern about being implemented on legal permanent residents and he got overridden by people in the white house who are not national security experts, though some of them may now be in the national security council principles meeting. it should be worrisome. we should establish the inner agency working groups. there are reasons to have experts at the department of state, at the department of homeland security who are going to have to be implementing this. this should not be done by folks without experience and nothing but campaign promises to fulfill in the white house. >> i believe that the american people of the united states, they want our country to be secure. >> everybody does. >> and he has surrounded himself, president trump has surrounded himself with very, very intelligent cabinet members. and intelligent white house administrators. >> but he's not letting them in,
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jan. >> you doun't know that. >> did you read the report. >> i read about the executive order less than 24 hours before it was signed. >> if i can chime in quickly, you started down the path of this christian preference, as a christian, this is deeply concerning because this is not what our country was built upon. i may get in trouble of this, but this is the antithesis of christianity. the fact is we are a country built upon vast religions. we are a country that is built upon, you know, beautiful people of all races, all shades. and the fact that we are now -- give us just some not all? i mean, it's amazing that people are now just pro-some lives when just this week everybody was pro-life and now everybody is just pro-some lives. >> we accept more refugees, more people's visas coming in and traveling in our country than almost any other country. >> i don't think that's accurate. >> it is correct. >> i will tell you, the obama
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administration owns the inaction on what happened in syria. and the republicans will own this if we don't speak up. >> thanks for being here. during a whirlwind first week, president trump found time to decorate the white house. what he's added to the oval office is the subject of this week's state of the union cartoon coming up next. (vo) do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light. do not go gentle into that good night. ♪ ♪ ♪
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life at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> i always say i don't know whether it's the finest public housing in america. >> one week in, president trump seems pretty comfy in his new digs. >> this is the oval office. this is truly one of the great spaces. >> it is a building alive with the knoghosts of presidents pas. >> i actually put some pictures up that i thought would be great. some of the paintings that i thought would be really appropriate. george washington, alexander hamilton, thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln, andrew jackson, who a lot of people compare the campaign of trump. >> president trump took the interaction with the portraits one step further. they write he talked to the portraits. it was memorialized in the oliver stone film "nixon." >> look at you and see what they want to be. they look at me and see what they are. >> not every president followed
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nixon's lead. >> no, i never talked to a portrait. afraid they might talk back to me. >> what might these presidents of years past say to their newest club member. >> always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. and then you destroy yourself. >> wisdom from the ages. hope you're enjoying your new house, mr. president. thanks for watching, "fareed zakaria gps" is next. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure.
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this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. we'll start by tackling all aspects of president trump's immigration ban, barring citizens from seven majority muslim nations from coming into the ruunited states. is it legal, is it moral, is it american, and will it work? i will talk to the head of the aclu, then a great panel, and then we will broaden out to examine donald trump's radical shift in american foreign policy. what does it mean when america walks away from the world? first, here's my take. donald trump's executive order suspending the entry of

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