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>> i have a daughter from lebanon stuck in the air with four children and they cannot get here. >> we continue to monitor protests and marches in major cities at this hour across the country. six of 14 people detained at new york's jfk airport have been released. travelers from the seven countries named in trump's travel ban were stopped upon landing in the u.s. new york congressman jeffries is hopeful the detained travelers will be released from jfk soon calling trump's ban a smoke screen. >> we're hopeful that moving forward the department of justice, the trump administration, will abandon this reckless unconstitutional unsavory, unamerican effort. and help us all come together to deal with the challenges that are facing the american people. >> cnn's rachel crane just spoke to some of those travelers who
were released at new york's jfk airport. rainfall what d-- rachel, what did they say? >> reporter: an iranian woman was just released. she had been held for over 24 hours. at one point yesterday she was put back on a plane to be deported but that was just before the announcement was made and so she was then taken off the plane but now just released. everybody of course cheering. she had 20 friends here that have been waiting for her to be released. that's just one of many tearful reunions that have been held here today at jfk with detainees being reunited with their family members. however, there are still people being detained at this point. congressman jeffries mentioned to us just moments ago that four somali men that just got off planes today have been detained.
unclear when they'll be released. lawyers jfk are preparing for more people to be detained. >> appreciate that. for a second day in a row now protesters are gathering at the los angeles international airport to voice their opposition to president trump's travel ban. cnn's dan simon is there. dan, what's taking place? >> reporter: hi, fred. this is turning into a large and loud protest. we are in the international terminal here at l.a.x. you can see a number of protesters here behind me. in addition to the folks behind me, we have a number of people who are wearing name tags that say lawyer on them. i would say there are a couple dozen lawyers here who are here to assist family members and friends of those they were expecting to arrive at l.a.x. i spoke to a gentleman just a short time ago who is from iran and expected his friend who has been living in los angeles for
over a year. she was here on a work permit but then had to go home because her mother was sick. now, he says that his friend is christian and that's one of the reasons why she's so baffled that she's been detained here at l.a.x. he says he spoke to her on the phone, and he says that border patrol went through all of her photos on her phone. also went through all of her luggage. he's just waiting for any information about his friend. one of the problems we're hearing about is we can't get a firm grip on the number of people detained but it's been a moving target. at one point we heard it was dozens. some others say it's just a small number. that's one of the real challenges is we can't get any reliable information at this point from federal authorities. >> dan simon, thank you so much, at l.a.x. you see the scene there. we showed you the scene at jfk in new york and now we want to take you to virginia, dulles international airport, where again people have gathered.
this is just outside of the washington, d.c. area. let's listen in. >> and we sit here as testament to our commitment to make sure that happens. now, please give a warm virginia welcome to my maryland colleague, john delaney. >> there are three things government can do. they can do things that are good. they can do things that are neutral and they can do things that are bad. you can negotiate with neutral, but you can't negotiate with bad. you have to fight bad. >> sorry. you can hear clearly but camera view dropped there. a number of people have gathered at dulles international airport and scenes in philadelphia there. we continue to monitor developments across the country as a number of people pour out as they contest this executive
order now in its second day being put to use there across the country. a massive protest taking place outside of the white house. that's where we find cnn's white house correspondent athena jones. athena? >> reporter: hi, fredricka. the protest doesn't sound as loud as it did last hour. set to go from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. outside of the white house. it may be beginning to break up. i can tell you on the way in i saw a lot of people streaming in toward the protest site several hundred feet behind me carrying signs like "make america kind again." and even a sign that said "shame on you. love not hate." folks at the white house are standing their ground. they say these moves were necessary and when confronted with the questions about the
chaos and confusion that this new policy has been sowing, they are pushing back. here's what reince priebus, the president's chief of staff, had to say about all of this on "meet the press." >> it wasn't chaos. the fact of the matter is 325,000 people from foreign countries came into the united states yesterday and 109 people were detained for further questioning. most of those people were moved out. we've got a couple dozen more that remain. i would suspect as long as they're not awful people that they will move through before another half a day today and perhaps some of these people should be detained further and if there are folks that shouldn't be in this country, they're going to be detained. so apologize for nothing here. >> reporter: the white house saying there's nothing to apologize for and the president himself tweeting about all of this starting early this morning saying our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting. now. look at what is happening all over europe and indeed the
world. a horrible mess. the second tweet he says christians in the middle east have been executed in large numbers. we cannot allow this horror to continue. so the white house from the president on down standing their ground arguing that these moves are necessary for national security and also they're arguing this is exactly what they were elected to do. this is what the president ran on doing. now he's doing it so it's just one more promise kept, fred. >> all right. athena jones, thank you so much. again, not far from where you are at the white house at one of the three washington, d.c. airports, live pictures right now of dulles international airport. a very busy place of international travelers. let's listen in to what's happening. >> tom payne said it would be a haven of refuge for people fleeing religious and political repression all over the world. i'm going to get to your point if you listen. i'm going to get to your point.
donald trump -- >> shut up, lady! >> shut up! >> go have your own rally over there. >> you want us to respect your president? respect your congressman. >> donald trump has taken action that's against the values of the united states. okay. the orders that came down yesterday violate our constitution. somewhere we read of the free exercise of religion, is that right? somewhere we read there's no establishment of official religions in america. somewhere we read that there are no religious tests in america. >> as you can see, tensions are rising not just at dulles international airport but really across the country. we continue to keep a close watch of all of the protests that have unfurled across the
country as result of the executive order signed by donald trump on friday night banning travelers, nationals from seven nations, yemen, sudan, somalia, iraq, syria, libya and iran. we'll continue to keep a close tab on all of the gatherings across the country. perhaps overlooked by some in the uproar of president trump's travel ban was another executive order signed just yesterday reorganizing the national security council. with the stroke of a pen, president trump effectively removed the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the director of national intelligence from the committee saying that they would be invited when issues pertaining to their responsibilities and expertise are discussed. meantime, arizona republican senator john mccain, while he praised some of the president's national security team members, he also expressed concern about who will and won't be sitting on
the national security council meetings. >> i think the national security team around president trump is very impressive. i think you couldn't ask for a better one. general kelly. general flynn is great. general mattis. and the ones they are bringing onboard on their team. i am worried about the national security council who are members of it and who are permanent members? appointment of mr. bannon is something which is a radical departure from any national security council in history. remember karl rove when he sat in on one. axelrod when he was supposedly -- look, that is -- the role of the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has been diminished, i understand, with this reorganization. one person who was indispensable was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in my view. it's of concern this "reorganization." >> for more on this i'm joined
by cnn washington correspondent ryan nobod nobles. this is the white house approach to modernizing systems that have customarily been in place at the white house. >> a departure from the way the committee has been used in previous administrations. the white house believes this is a more streamlined way to handle it. they moved joint chiefs off of this principles committee. it's essentially the committee that meets when the president is in the room. so the national security council will hash out a lot of these intelligence and military issues without the president necessarily there. and when they want to take something to the president, that's when this principles committee is brought together. now, added to that group is steve bannon who john mccain was talking about. he's of course the chief strategist and senior counselor
to the president and someone who has an equal amount of power in this white house but democrats are criticizing his role on this particular committee because he's not thought of as a military or intelligence strategist. he did serve in the navy, but he's thought to be more of the political strategist in the white house. that led president obama's national security adviser susan rice to really sound off on this reorganization by the trump administration. look at these tweets that she fired off in the past 24 hours. she did not mince words at all saying this is stone cold crazy after a week of crazy. who needs military advice or intel to make policy on isil, syria, afghanistan or dprk, which is of course north korea. she also ciriticized there can e an opportunity for the president to step out of these meetings and be replaced by the vice president. she says pence may chair the nsc
meetings in lieu of potus. never happened under obama. the director of national intelligence will be involved in the process they say. take a listen. >> it wasn't chaos. the fact of the matter is 325,000 people from foreign countries came into the united states yesterday and 109 people were detained for further questioning. most of those people were moved out. we've got a couple dozen more that remain. i would suspect as long as they're not awful people that they will move through before another half a day today and perhaps some of these people should be detained further. if there are folks that shouldn't be in this country, they are going to be detained. apologize for nothing here. >> reporter: that was priebus talking about the executive order that the president put out and not about the national security council. essentially the argument that priebus made was that if the
chairman of the joint chiefs or if the director of national intelligence wants to be involved in those meetings, they have the opportunity to do so saying that the criticism was a bit overblown. fred? >> all right. ryan nobles at the white house. thank you so much. we'll continue to monitor the protests erupting across the country. live pictures right now in boston. all of this as a result of president trump's executive order signed friday. if you're searching other travel sites to find a better price... ...stop clicking around... the lowest prices on our hotels are always at hilton.com. so pay less and get more only at hilton.com. tax refund, you can get an advance on that refund?
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a ban the president claims is "working nicely." last hour i spoke to trump's former adviser jack kingston about the travel ban. >> a president might not ask everybody's permission because he just wants to move along with it as you know washington resists change. this week and this administration has been about implementing a number of new policies and doing it quickly so they can get off to the right start fulfilling a number of campaign promises but the other thing is we know donald trump is the kind of guy who doesn't sit around and wait for consensus. so this is part of his leadership style. >> joining me right now, nic robertson and ron brownstein. good to see both of you. so, ron, let me go to you because i think mr. kingston was kind of underscoring there's been a flurry of activity. donald trump promised he would get to business. he has. 14 and counting now, maybe 16
executive orders. americans won't just judge on this flurry of executive order action but they're also going to judge on the consequences or benefits of these executive orders. how much is at stake, so to speak, ron, is there for the president in all of these orders? >> i think the dynamic of the trump presidency is being set right here and on the streets in america. you know, when representative kingston said he's not waiting for consensus, that's putting it mildly. you have a series of actions in which the administration has signaled that it was good advice to take them literally and seriously during the campaign in which they signaled they intend to do exactly what they said during the campaign even though many said that it was a metaphor
and americans resist him every step of the way. i think what has been signaled here is that it is going to be very hard for democratic elected officials to treat this as a normal presidency and tactically weave back and forth on working with it or against it. they'll be pulled along in the stream. >> what are conflicting messages being sent to allies around the world when you have the newly elected president saying one thing as it pertains to what travelers and what nationals will be accepted into the u.s. and then you've got thousands of american protesters who are saying we object to this decision? >> yeah, as much as this order appears to be stress testing american society, it's really stress testing the bonds with the united states allies as well. take theresa may, the british prime minister here walking hand in hand with president trump on
friday. on saturday finds this executive order has come to pass and has to put distance between herself and trump on this saying this is not the way that we want to do it. it's up to the united states. we're not going to be doing this as well. she's being attacked politically at home. there's now a move in britain and now a move by the leader of the opposition to put a travel ban, if you will, on trumpresid trump. the invitation to come visit the queen there's a petition on. across europe you have the french and the dutch foreign minister saying this is not really addressing the core issues and looking at our core values. this is not going to fight terrorism. it's not going to be productive on that front. that's what we've heard from senator mccain and senator graham as well. so what we're hearing back from the united states allies is a real level of concern. the german chancellor yesterday in her phone conversation with
president trump apparently we're told by a spokesman from the chancellor's office in germany she actually had to explain how the united states being a signatory to the geneva convention obligates you to take refuge from countries of war. >> we know that the mexican president canceled his visit as a result of the wall issue but now listening to what nic is saying here, does this mean there are other world leaders who will be defiant against coming to visit the president of the united states and the white house as a result of largely this ban? >> i think you can't ignore the president of the united states from pretty much any country in the world. i do think there will be enormous domestic pressure to stand up against many of the things that donald trump and his administration, particularly in
the under the steve bannon who expressed a belief that they want to knit together a global movement and a national front in france and other parties like that in europe. this is a fundamental challenge to u.s. led rules based world order we've had since world war ii when you have a president of the united states saying he doesn't care if the european union unravels. that's a very different world. as nic said both at home and abroad, this is an enormous stress test. you see the seams loosening in american society over this last week perhaps more dramatically than any moment since the 1960s and i think all signs are full speed ahead. not clear it will have a lot of impact on republicans. you can get the sense very quickly of how visceral reaction many of the things donald trump wants to do. it's evoking in parts of america that are resistant to him and headed to a period of unprecedented tension at home and abroad. >> all very extraordinary and topped with that statement
also wounded. president trump authorized this operation and he just released a statement saying "americans are saddened this morning with news that a life of a heroic service member has been taken in our fight against the evil of radical islamic terrorism. my deepest thoughts and how mumt prayers with the family of this fallen service member and i pray for a quick and complete recovery for service members that suffered injuries. ryan browne, what more do you know? >> this elite service member was wounded during this raid on an al qaeda in arabian peninsula headquarters in yemen. it was an intense firefight. there were about 14 al qaeda operatives killed. it was part of what's called a site exploitation raid which is an effort to gather intelligence that can facilitate additional raids and other drone strikes against the terror group. it was kind of one of the first
missions and they had to get out thereof which resulted in an aircraft going down. definitely an important day in yemen today. >> ryan browne, thank you so much in washington. all right. coming up, federal judges have blocked parts of trump's travel ban. will a flood of new lawsuits overturn executive order or is this case headed to the u.s. supreme court? we'll discuss when we come right back.
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federal judges in several cities have already overturned parts of the executive order and more lawsuits are expected to be filed but already the white house has been responding saying it's full steam ahead. none of the executive orders will be suspended as of now. let's discuss all of this with our panel. raul reyes is an immigration analyst and cnn opinion writer. you are the panel right now, raul. good to see you. okay. so the white house is digging in its heels saying that nothing will be suspended in this executive order. we've heard from a number of analysts who believe that it can be challenged on constitutionality, how will the white house be able to substantiate that this is constitutionally sound? >> well, i think as a starting point, putting my self in the shoes of the trump administration, obviously the president does have great discretion over setting immigration policy. we saw that with president obama when he took his executive
action in 2012 and then attempted to again in 2014. so the president does have some discretion. yet, overall, immigration policy is decided by congress. the president is really only authorized to move it forward in very inkrecremental ways. the big problem with trump's order as i read through it, first of all, there's a problem on the first amendment grounds. while it bars refugees from these muslim majority countries, it carves out exceptions for christian refugees. under the first amendment, the government is not allowed to prioritize one religion over another. we also see -- you can also look at this act as being in violation of existing law. in the 1965 immigration and naturalization act, it specifically forbids any discrimination on the grounds of national origin, which is what trump is doing here with these seven nations. and then looking around the country on a more practical standpoint, because this was rolled out so quickly and i
think many immigration reform advocates and many immigration attorneys would say that it has been ruled out somewhat sloppily, it has been inconsistently applied at airports around the country. that brings into issue due process concerns and equal protection questions because we have people being treated one way at jfk and people being treated a different way in washington, d.c. or dallas. >> so we heard from a number of representatives from the white house who said that these seven nations were selected because it was codified by the administration and congress because there was terrorist camp activity in those states and thereby this executive order singling out these states is a continuation if not an elaboration on something that was already set in the previous administration. is that fair? sound enough?
>> in my opinion, i don't think that's sound enough. i would say that is probably their best defense at this point, but the longer this ban -- remember, this is a temporary ban. the longer that this stays in effect, however, there would likely be called for congress to take a vote on it, so we'll see whether or not a majority of congress and majority of republicans would go along with it. in addition to all of these concerns having to do with the constitutionality or potential due process violations, there are lawsuits can be brought that that is a violation of international law. remember, the united states going all of the way back to 1951, we led the way in the united nations refugee convention that you can't send a person back to a country where they would be at risk of persecution. we see from mr. priebus, there's confusion about how he thinks it should be applied.
>> raul reyes, thank you. a letter has gone out from some members of congress who say that they will be challenging this executive order calling president trump's unconstitutional order betrays everything the statue of liberty and our nation stands for. the president's action is not only unconstitutional but immoral as pope francis said, it's hypocrisy to call yourself a christian and chase away a refugee or someone seeking help. more on that coming up. raul reyes, thank you for your time. appreciate it. we'll have much more as we continue to monitor events, protests across the country. this is boston. we'll be right back. with a crust made chfrom scratche and mixes crisp vegetables with all white meat chicken, and bakes it to perfection. because making the perfect dinner isn't easy as pie but finding someone to enjoy it with
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5-year-old son you see on the left-hand side. she anxiously awaiting his arrival at washington's dulles international airport saturday night only to learn that he was one of the travelers detained. there you see the reunion after hours spent without answers. she finally got to hold onto her son in her arms right there. here's part of the emotional moment when they reunited. >> all right. that was the moment in dulles international airport and now scenes in boston where a number of demonstrators have turned out there. look at those pictures. we have a reporter with whdh. tell us about the demonstrations that have unfolded there.
>> reporter: these crowds are massive. a lot of people are starting to leave the square behind me and they are starting to march down the street. a very big presence here. everyone here to voice their concerns about the president's immigration order and all ages are here. they're flooding the square. the streets and sidewalks surrounding it have a lot of people on it. this is a family affair. the boston police special operations team are here weaving in and out of the crowds and really guarding the perimeter doing their best to keep everyone safe and secure here. they just want their presence to be known. i did speak with the police commissioner here. he says everything is calm. no problems to report at this hour. they did put up snowplows for crowd control but again no problems to report at this hour. a lot of people seem to be heading out. back to you. >> all right. thank you so much from boston. appreciate that. we'll have much more from the "newsroom" right after this.
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people are expressing their concerns and confusion following that executive order signed by president trump banning nationals from some seven mostly muslim nations. yemen, sudan, somalia, iraq, syria, libya and iran. we'll continue to monitor. meantime, it's likely to -- other things that are likely to take place later on this week. president trump says he will be announcing his pick for the vacancy on the u.s. supreme court. trump says he already has a candidate in mind but democrats are warning the president that they are ready to screen the candidate. here now is cnn's victor blackwell. >> we have outstanding candidates and we will pick a truly great supreme court justice. >> president donald trump is done interviewing candidates according to a senior administration official and trump now making it clear he
will announce his pick on thursday. >> will it be from the list you gave out during the campaign? >> yes. >> will it be an original list? >> you will see on thursday. >> have you made your decision? >> i have made my decision pretty much in my mind. it's subject to change at the last moment but i think this will be a great choice. >> if approved, the president's nominee will replace justice antonin scalia who passed away last february. the seat has been vacant since then. the administration official tells cnn that trump has narrowed his list to four candidates. three men and one woman. they are judge neil gorsuch who is on the court of appeals in colorado. he closely aligns with antonin scalia's conservative philosophy.
gorsuch is 49 years old and also under consideration is william pryor. pryor is 54 years old. and disagrees with the roe v. wade decision legalizing he was nominated by bush in 2006. he serves on the same court as trurp's sister. he is 51 years old. the fourth finalist serves on the 7th circuit court of appeals in chicago. she was also nominated by george bush and is a reporter for the milwaukee journal. she's 9 yearses old. whomever he pick, finding support from democrats still upset may pose a challenge. >> if the nominee is not bipartisan and would keep the seat open. i'm hopeful this maybe president trump would nominate someone
mainstream and could get bipartisan support. we shall see, but if not, yes, we'll fight it tooth and nail, as long as we have to. >> cnn, atlanta. >> all right, let's discuss this with our panel. a constitutional law professor, good to see you ladies. so, to you first. these top contenders frlt supreme court position. there any rumblings of who likely may be among those four mentioned might be donald trump's choice? >> well, my sources say that we might even hear this before thursday. it could come earlier. depending on trump's decision making process. i've narrowed it down three. at the top would be gorsich. he's got religious liberty opinions that conservatives really like, but most important are two things. ark, he's only 49 years old and presidents like to put young
justices on the court and second, he sailed through his confirmation hearing, which is in stark contrast to another person on the list, bill pryor out of alabama. he has called roe v. wade an abomination and that's going to make it harder for him to get through. finally, a dark horse. tom hardeman. he's from pittsburgh. he has an interesting personal story. the first from his family to graduate college. so, that might be an interesting pick or something that trump would like. >> and gloria, donald trump had said that he wants to pick someone as close to an antonin scalia as possible. and that given the case, will he be looking particularly as you see this outpouring of protests now over one of his executive orders, will he be trying to narrow in on a b possible justice, or at least nominee, that would support this and at
the same time, one who might lean more pro-life and less supportive of a roe v. wade? >> i think that donald trump knows that this country divided and there is a fight. as we see with these protests, for the harlt and soul of america, and the it's going to come to the supreme court. so, it's going to go beyond anything that we see right now. every issue is going to be in play. so, if donald trump as unpredictable as he's been in the past, i would say even though it's a dark horse, pryor is the one that i think the people who have been his most avid supporters would want. >> he's out of atlanta. >> alabama. atlanta, via alabama, but the concern i have about pryor, he's the one who said that row versus
wade was ab an abomination. he went through the back door to be a federal court judge. but he's the one the one who's had the most religion cases. from a conservative standpoint. for example has been antigovernment, antiaca from the front, but also, thomas hardeman has been a pro gun person. so, we have these issues thr the issues of concern for the constituency that sport supported trump, but if he's going to buck the system, then he would go all the way with pryor. >> with the naming of a nominee, how soon before confirmation hearings were to begin. >> well, what the republicans want to try to get someone on the bench by the end of the sitting and that might be a tough call. and it's interesting, these hearings are going to be a big fight because not only are they going to be about the nominee,
but they're going to be about the fact that obama's nominee, merit garland, didn't get on the bench and the democrats are still seething mad about that. so they plan to attack republicans for that as well as going after the credentials of trump's nominee. >> we've heard some democrats say that they would try to withhold support of any nominee during his entire if it is one term, but at least that first four years, is that possible? >> well, it's -- >> sorry, go ahead, dplor area. >> it's possible for them to do that. i think at the end, there are those who are in the democratic party on the other side, who will say we're holding up america by holding this up. but the judicial branch is the only one left in play right now, and i think that if the democrats have to sit back and you know, turn their back on whatever nominee comes forward, it might be in their political position to do so.
>> you want to button it up? >> i was just saying, remember, it was back in 2013 that the democrats changed the rules when they were having a hard getting lower court judges through. some wonder will the republicans try to do that this time for the supreme court? >> all right, thank you, ladies. appreciate it. >> and we'll be right back. america's beverage companies have come together to bring you more ways to help reduce calories from sugar. with more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all, smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and signs reminding everyone to think balance before choosing their beverages. we know you care about reducing the sugar in your family's diet, and we're working to support your efforts.
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thank you for being with me. we begin with breaking news on the growing opposition to donald trump's immigration ban. we're monitoring protests and marches in major cities this hour across the country. live pictures from boston. demonstrators calling the order unconstitutional. demanding the president release the people who are still detained at airports nationwide. >> this is