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a part of a clash of civilsation, that's exactly what isis and al qaeda have been trying to do the last 20 years, that it's a war between the east and the west, and the greatest power in the world by lumping muslims, over 1 billion persons with islamic -- again he uses the term in a very, very dangerous way, he's playing into the hands of al qaeda and providing motivation and inspiration and unleashing anti-american sentiment throughout the world particularly in the muslim world and this particular ban seen throughout the world as a ban against muslims because why has he chosen these seven countries, brooke, if most of the attacks that have taken place in the
united states after 9/11 were carried out by u.s. citizens. >> i'm aware of that though this would be president trump's to get ahead of any future nefarious activities, hear you loud and clear. the global speperspective rightw is so important. thank you. >> thank you. >> this is cnn breaking news. top of the hour, breaking news, i'm brooke baldwin, here is what we have following a very, very contentious white house briefing today. 24 hours for the trump administration involving moves to obstruct the president's plans but the issue front and center today at the white house briefing was what we were just discussing the travel ban
involving seven predominantly muslim nations, white house press secretary sean spicer insisted it was not a ban despite the president using the word just yesterday. >> first of all it's not a travel ban. i think you heard secretary kellie, i apologize i want to get this straight. i think secretary kellie or one of the other people there have said there are a million people that have come into the country, that's not a ban. what we are trying to do is make sure people coming in are vetted properly. >> the says it's a ban. >> he's using the word that the media is using. >> those are his words. >> jonathan, thanks, i'll let kristen talk. it can't be a ban if you're letting a million people come in 325,000 people coming in is not
a ban. >> that came moment after this from secretary kellie. people on my staff were generally involved. i guess probably wednesday i think we learned -- tuesday, wednesday it would probably be during the week it would be signed out. i did not look at it from the perspective as correcting the grammar grammar or saying we need the change these words or do this, people that know the process, including people around the interagency are the ones that did the staff work and ultimately the president signed it. >> let's go to the white house to jeff zeleny here. words matter, right? we even looked up a transcript where sean spicer referred it himself as a ban.
which is it? >> brooke, that's a great question. the press secretary referred to it as a ban. the president himself speaking in the oval office just a day after he signed it referred to it as a ban as well as extreme vetting. he tweeted it was a ban. now i think enough people have called it a ban that we can call it a ban, is it a full and complete ban? no, is it banning all muslims coming to the u.s.? no. and i'm not sure this argument over the word ban is not eliminating except to the point that the rollout of this plan was you know veuniversally was planned, simply not done in a methodical way the way things are usually done with, and in some respect what this white house is fine with, they want to shake things up, and the press
secretary was if not parsing his words, said, yes he knew it was coming, but not enough people saw it in advance to review it. these are republicans who want the president to succeed here, so this is different than your partisan back and forth, was this written in a way this can work in this government? and four days later the white house is still trying to clean up this mess. >> also tonight. this is a huge moment for the president, right? >> it is. >> he's announced he's down to two potential picks for the u.s. supreme court. we're told -- are they both now in washington? >> reporter: if they're not in washington they will be this evening. at least that's what we're being told and you're absolutely right, this is the biggest decision a president can make is
an appointment to the supreme court. whether it be neil gorsuch, 50 years old, or thomas hardiman, 51 years old this is the lifetime of a president's legacy. this announcement tonight, brooke, so critical, but also is tied to immigration, and that will be furont and center. >> we'll have special coverage, and will be tuned in. thank you. let's skip over to capitol hill where senate democrats are staging their own protests today boycotting two of president trump's nominees, congressman tom price health and human services and steve mnuchin
and -- bailing moments before the vote was suppose today happen. >> i'm very disappointed that they treated the committee that way, and me that way, at least comment and say there's a reason they could wait. -- well they are idiots it's a complete breach of decorum, complete breech of just getting along around here. >> the fact that orrin hatch called the democrats idiots. what is going on on the hill? >> reporter: democrats are refusing to move forward on these two nominees mnuchin and price, they believe there are some key questions during the hearing that did not get direct
answers and believe they were m mislead, including a stock price purchased before. and it was called a sweetheart deal. i just talk toded to tom widen. he's not saying they will never give any cooperation for a vote he says they want more answers first so they're holding out the possibility of working with orrin hatch who was planning to move forward as early tomorrow to have another vote. also the senate judiciary delayed a vote on jeff sessions to send his nomination to the full senate because draemocratso not want donald trump to have his cabinet in place particularly with a lot of these
controversial nominees and they don't have much opportunity to actually stop them from getting confirmed but can do everything in their power to delay those nominees and betsy devos, approved on a party line vote democrats trying to do everything they can to stop her confirmation and at least delay it as long as they possibly can. >> thank you. we do have more breaking news including the acting attorney general that the president just fired because she defied him in that travel ban. >> why use the word betrayal. >> they're the department of justice and if you have a legally executed ordered and the attorney general is saying i'm not going to execute it that clearly is a betrayal.
>> i have dana bash and chief white house correspondent for the white house press, julie pace, let me start with you, the words from sean spicer, on sally yates, defiant, betrayal. strong words. >> they were and i think this was the white house sending a message as earlier in the week that they expect them at all levels to be in their jobs to fulfill the president's mission, but the problem with that you over see not just your, but we saw a large number of diplomats who expressed their outrage over the ban. but what sally yates did to them
was a breach too far. >> what about speaking attorney general, we know manu just reported the confirmation hearings for jeff sessions ha h -- has hit pause or hold. when you have orrin hatch calling democrats idiots. what's going on? >> what the democratic party is going through is a crisis how to function and how to make its anger make its opposition heard when they don't have the votes to do it. and i think what became crystallizing for democrats particularly in the senate dealing with these trump nominees is they're hearing from their liberal constituencies when i say crystallizing we heard it over the weekend when chuck schumer was having a press conference on these travel restrictions and was sort of
heckled by one of his own supporters saying if you're going to oppose him why are you agreeing with his nominees and yesterday he put out i think eight nominees he's going to oppose and i think this boycott is another example of how they're trying to telegraph to the liberal base, we hear you and the dnc sent out a press release and telegraphing with social media and elsewhere they're trying to stand up. they're elected representatives who have a job to do and a boycott might be something that sort of sends a message but they also need to be kind of in the room and doing their jobs and debating and voting when that is necessary, so it's a delicate balance. >> what about julie in the briefing just a while ago where you are about the travel ban and the white house claiming there's
no travel ban and i don't want to have a whole conversation about it even though the president referred to it as a travel ban, but house speaker paul ryan referred to it as sort of messy. >> reporter: and we're told that the president isn't happy with the way the rollout went. we watches cnn an other networks, he's aware that the chaos this has caused the white house is in defense that they did this in secret that this was a close-door process, but when you do talk to people on capitol hill and talk to people at the agencies, yes, people were aware that the president was looking forward to doing something like this because he talked about it in the campaign, but there wasn't this robust energy when you have this kind of complicated change in u.s. policy and i think that's what has left people frustrated. >> that's the key, for example
the white house is trying to do a little bit of heads up on the supreme court nominee, that's one thing but giving people a road map -- not just people, not sore of your political allies which you do need in order to kind of bolster your argument that this is good policy but the people working in homeland security and other agencies a road map how to execute. that's why i think the general kelly press conference this morning was so fascinating because jeff zeleny reported earlier he was trying to parse his words. there is no question, he was trying to be a good soldier, get out there and try to combat reports even he was annoyed and in the dark, but it's not just about saying oh, by the way, this is the order and you need to know what it says, it's okay this is the order how it is implements how it's going to work, boom, boom, boom, boom,
that basic execution that needs to happen in a very large very complex government never mind with something as potentially toxic and explosive as this simply didn't happen. >> your point is well taken, giving people heads up had this been friday instead of today. thank you, more breaking news president trump has announced his two supreme court finalists, they're arriving in washington today. how much of a fight will democrats put up. we have that next. woo you're watching cnn's live special coverage.
ban, but the sticking point isn't the semantics but the rollout. here is what speaker of the house paul ryan said. >> i think there was regrettable to see some confusion, nobody wanted to see people with green cards get caught up with all of this, so it was confusing but going forward i'm confident that secretary is going to make sure they get a good review, and get this program up and running with the kind of standards we all want to see. >> resa, it is so nice to have you on and we played speaker ryan talking about the messy rollout, what do you think? >> well with all due respect it's just not true, on behalf of
the president specifically tried to ban green card holders and the "washington post" is reporting there are draft orders of other executive orders the president has yet to sign that are circulating that takes this one step further that is targeting immigrants already in the united states, so i think it's about time we start talking honestly about precisely what it is that the president is trying do with these executive orders and that is to fundamentally reshape the very identity of this country. >> i think some of the reporters were trying to get to that, but also the global perception of what's hang in tppening. it is german transatlantic coordinator, says, the president trump fundamentally questions what made america great. openness to cross border trade.
president trump creates uncertainty as to the future course of the u.s. and thus also with regard to the future role in the world. >> well, you know, the president's motto is america first, that may have worked in the 19 twenti20s and 30s, but w linked, we are in a global community and global market and the idea that you can make these unilateral decisions the way in which global network functions is frankly ridiculous. >> what about the 46% to haof t country, i don't know if all 46% support this but they supported him, wanted him to not color within the lines and that is precisely what he's following through on? >> i'm glad you brought that up, brooke, because instead of talk
about semantics and whether at this point we can believe anything that comes out of sean spicer's mouth anymore let's talk about this 46% of people of keeping america safe then it wouldn't be repudiated by the community, the military brass, the ambassadorial services anybody who has studied this has said instead of keeping america safe it is increasing the threat because of the propaganda value that it gives to our adversaries particularly what it gives to isis. >> right. which i was talking before to the policy professor in london who is saying it is mega propaganda and putty in isis'
hands. you think about iraq, you think about this is the u.s. closest ally, u.s. is in a war with iraq on our side an iraqis are not allowed in the u.s. to that point we just got news that iraq will not retaliate against the ban, but that they are studying all of our options according to the prime minister, what do you make of this? are they taking the high road here? >> he needs military groups on the ground in his country in order to fight the threat of isis, but we also need iraq, we are desperate for the support of iraqis, that this global battle that the president says he is taking so seriously and it is astonishing that one of our closest allies a country whose military is actually shoulder to
shoulder with military fighting a common enemy has now been blacklisted in this way, iraq is not alone, many countries are on the banned list, countries which we are militarily engaged with the soupport of the government s well. let's say this one more time not a single american, not one american has ever been killed on u.s. soil by a foreign national from any of these banned countries, so the notion that this is about keeping americans safe just doesn't hold water. >> you are correct. zero. thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> it's called believer premiers sunday march 5th at 10:00 p.m.
hardiman are the two candidates. sources say gorsuch has emerged as the leading contender, both are in washington ahead of tonight's big announcement. check this out. cnn cameras capture judge hard man pumping gas. i know we've got cameras everywhere. this is high stakes, sir. >> you know as well as i did if he only said there's only one person in running and only brought one person out you guys would have followed him. >> we weren't the only ones too. >> that's true. >> did you know anything about this friend of yours being flown in to d.c. today. did you get any scoop? >> no, of course not they're very careful about keeping these things under wraps.
>> tell me about him, i'm quoting a person who is unbelievably widely respected. we know about his résume, tell me about him as a man. >> he's a very down to earth person, very easy person to spend time with, from my perspective i see him more as an advocate though i've been on panels with him, but as an advocate he was a pleasure to argue in front of because he was somebody who read all the materials, clearly thought about the case, asked good questions and i think would fit in quite comfortably, there's a difference when you go from the three-judge court to a nine-judge court, but he would do well in that environment. >> do you have any stories anecdotely when any decision came cowen or any justice that
you spoke about in particular in. >> only the one i actually argued a case where he had written the opinion in the court in the strip search case involving prisons and we just chatted a little bit when that opinion came out and he was happy i did an adequate job of defending his position and the supreme court affirmed him. >> what about this travel ban, how do you think he would feel about it? >> i think it's hard to know at this stage. everybody worries about immigration issues but also everybody also worries about possibilities of religious discrimination so i think there's going to be cross occ currents, i don't think ideologically it doesn't make a difference, you're going to have to see what issue makes its way to a court on whose behalf and
how it tees up before you can even decide how any of the justices would likely react to him. >> he does connect with the president with the fact he sat with the president's sister on a lower court as you know, what role do you think that might play here and did he ever speak about the president's sister? >> well, i never talked to him and his sister though i've argued in front of her as well. i don't think they were on the same panel in any of the cases i've argued in the third circuit, but figure it certainly doesn't hurt if she likes the judge and has the ear of the president but i seriously doubt he's going to decide on who the next supreme court nominee will be based on any family ties frankly at this point. >> i don't think he will either, but i think it is note worth nonetheless. carter phillips thank you much.
executive orders. >> there are many immigrants that we have cause to suspect of being radical islamic terrorist sympathizers so i think we need and first and foremost is to keep our country safe. >> until we figure out a way of securely vetting the people who are coming to this country, i think everyone wants to be safe. >> i'm saying yeah, there's a human side of it which we could have done differently but the intent, i think the intent is right. >> with me now trump supporter a christian immigrant who came to the united states in 1991, all of 19 years of age, and from the detroit news, recently wrote an
editorial called we still don't get trump voters. thank you to both of you. >> thanks. >> i think it's fascinating that you have refugees or immigrants in this country who say what mr. trump is doing is a good thing, i want you to tell me why? >> well, we are 100% with donald trump and redirecting the refugee immigration, a lot of us were concerned about it that was put by the previous administrations. with the new administration, some things very important to keep the united states safe and to come back to the right track in helping the refugees not only the syrian refugees but refugees from all over the world. >> but let's talk syrian refugees, you had this great
opportunity to come to this great country in 1991, i would you to tell me why your syrian brethren should not have the same opportunity? >> well, in syria as we all know there's a religious war and the refugees that are coming to the united states of america, we have no background information about them since there's no communication between the syrian government and our government and the united states of america. we like the refugees -- relike -- relike we like to help the refugees, by stabilizing the syrian land by stab liziilizing, not make them travel throughout the continent to the united states of america with a new atmosphere, new society and new language, so we really like to
help the refugees to come back to their homeland in syria. >> i think this is fascinating, nolan you wrote, they forced us to notice them on election day, we should remember they are still here. i want you to explain to me, about half this country, they feel ignored. >> yeah, we had a great moment of reflection in the media when trump won and we couldn't explain the why of it and didn't know the people who voted for him and we made a promise that we would get out there and talk to these voters who we don't normally talk to, try to understand, try to listen and that lasted a while, but i think for the most part since his election, we've done most of our reporting from the viewpoint of the people who are frightened and worried and fretful about a trump presidency and not much from the people who say hey, we voted for him, this is what he
said he was going to do, he's doing it and we're happy. >> you're right. we should. people above me send me to the middle of the country and listen to what's going on with these people, but i think another issue is fear. some mernamericans who voted fo trump are due to what happened in orlando and others. >> it was a big issue, whether it's immigration, the border plays into it. they did not feel the last president, obama stradministrat was taking their fears seriously and here comes a guy who says i'm going to do things to get tough on the border and immigration and i hear a lot of people saying this is exactly what i want. >> from what i read in the
"washington post" is if a syrian refugee were to come over here fresh out of this horrendous war and do something -- attack, you know, wage an attack here that you're worried you would be lumped in. it would be the syrians right that would be the bad guys? >> brooke, we all know the syrian community and united states of america have done a tremendous job. we are a very clean community we work by the law, 100% loyal americ american citizen. we swore to defend this country with honesty and stand behind it, but the immigration standpoint, we don't know the refugee situation, we are bringing them from the refugee camp to the yooipunited states
america. we do not have background check while living in syria because we have no communication with the syrian government. people coming here, they will have the religious hate because the war in syria was built on religious hate, it's a religious conflict so the people coming here for sure one way or the other might have a religious ideology because they got hurt from it. that's why we don't want to see a conflict here, special from my homeland that the people coming from syria are progovernment and the people that may have been forced out of syria for whatever reason. >> this is so significant. i think your perspective is so so important and we should be listening as somebody coming from syria and coming to the united states.
a war of words around president trump's travel ban. centers around whether to use the word ban. they're not saying it's ban. sean spicer referred to it that way. semantics aside, some american universities are warning their students not to leave the country. joining me now the president of kansas state university. he served as former joint chiefs of staff under george w. bush. general, an honor and privilege to have you on, sir. thank you so much for your service. >> thank you, brooke. good to be on. thank you. >> so, just quickly on the note about some of these universities at kansas state, what advice are you giving to your international students? >> well, the first part of advice is i think since we have 67 students, three faculty that are impacted by the current executive order. we've tried to offer all sorts of support to include just knowing what's going on. so we have an office set up to do that. and i think the community is rallying around these students
and faculty who probably are feeling a little uncertain about their future right now, and we want to try to assure them as much as we can and take care of them in the appropriate way. so, that's our number one goal at this point, is just to make sure they're getting all the information they can get, any advice we can offer them, and clearly i heard you mention this is probably not going to be a very good time to travel abroad. >> right, right. also given your past post, i wanted to ask your thoughts on the president's reshuffling of the national security council, the white house press secretary sean spicer had this to say when questioned about the overhaul. >> the director of national intelligence and the chairman of the joint chiefs are by statute part of the nse, full stock. what we've done is make sure on issues of homeland security and domestic policy they are always welcome to attend, 100%. however, if the issue is on pandemic flu or other
domestic-type natures that don't involve the military, it would be a waste of time to drag the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff over. if he wants to taend he's part of the committee, can he come any time. >> so, he's arguing that they don't have to be present at every single meeting. you had a seat at the table, sir. do you agree? >> well, it depends. you know, i'm a little confused now because when it come to the national security council, i think the chairman ought to be at every national security council meeting and so should the intelligence voice as well, should be there. that's been my experience both as vice chairman of the joint chiefs under president clinton and chairman under president bush. that would be expected. and the thing that would be unexpected there i think is to have a political voice in the room when you're talking about matters of national security. there is time for that debate, but not necessarily in conjunction -- >> do you think there should be a political voice? we now know the chief strategist steve bannon apparently will have a seat at the table.
from everything i've read, that's never been done before. >> well, in my experience it's not been done. i can think of one time under president bush when we had that voice at a meeting, but it was probably not a formal national security council meeting t. was right after the events of 9/11/2001. those kind of voices, the political voice is not there. there's a time and place for it, but i don't know that it's when you're trying to give the president options on measures to take to ensure our national security. by the way -- >> go ahead, sir. >> i was going to say in that little clip that you played there for your audience, pandemic, you know, the military is going to be involved in a pandemic because we've got the manpower and a lot of the skills that will be needed to deal with that if and when we're ever subjected to a pandemic in this
country. so, like katrina, you don't think of the military. you think about states and other agencies. but in the end when you need a lot of heft in terms of bodies and equipment and capability, the d.o.d. plays a role and that's already well outlined in most of our disaster response plans. so, i'm a little surprised using that example because i think that's probably the wrong example to use. but on the other hand, the president can organize his meetings anyway he wants to organize. it will be interesting to see how -- the one thing you don't want to do is marginal eyes the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff who by law is the principal military advisor to the president and the national security council. so, seems to me if it's national security, most of the issues are going to involve things that the current chairman joe is going to be concerned about. >> sure. you would know, sir. you would know. general richard meyers, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. >> thanks, brooke. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next the pentagon has identified a navy seal killed in
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owens. let's go to our political correspondent ryan brown. what happened? >> well, brooke, this was part of an operation what the military likes to call site exploitation, a raid designed to gather intelligence. unlike a traditional drone strike trying to take out a specific leader, this is trying to get intelligence from the terror group so you can conduct future strikes down the road. that requires boots on the ground. as they were moving in, a big fire fight gun battle broke out. in the course of that, you saw one navy seal killed, three additional wounded and a strike that killed 14 al-qaeda fighters in what appears to be some civilian casualties as a result of that strike as well. and then an additional u.s. aircraft had to take a hard landing injuring several other u.s. military personnel while they were leaving the area of the raid. so, it was a very complex operation. green lit by donald trump, but it had been planned such a complexity that it had been planned for weeks in advance under the obama administration. >> obviously our thoughts with the family of this navy seal.
so grateful for his service. ryan brown, thank you very much. and that is it for me. i'm brooke baldwin here in new york. we're going to send it over to jake tapper, "the lead" starts right now. >> thanks, brooke. a european leader puts the trump administration on a list of threats to the e.u. along with russia, china, and isis. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, the head of the european council listing the trump administration as one of the external threats facing the 27 european nations. is president trump playing right into vladimir putin's hands? who will it be? we are just a few hours away from finding out president trump's nominee for the u.s. supreme court. who are the top contenders? where do they stand on the most charged issues? and how hard will the democrats fight them? plus, a u.s. raid against terrorists where too many things did not go according to plan leading to the