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ryan brown, thank you very much. and that is it for me. i'm brooke baldwin here in new york. we're going to send it over to jake tapper, "the lead" starts right now. >> thanks, brooke. a european leader puts the trump administration on a list of threats to the e.u. along with russia, china, and isis. "the lead" starts right now. breaking news, the head of the european council listing the trump administration as one of the external threats facing the 27 european nations. is president trump playing right into vladimir putin's hands? who will it be? we are just a few hours away from finding out president trump's nominee for the u.s. supreme court. who are the top contenders? where do they stand on the most charged issues? and how hard will the democrats fight them? plus, a u.s. raid against terrorists where too many things did not go according to plan leading to the first american combat death on president
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trump's watch. also among those killed, the 8-year-old daughter of a notorious american terrorist. welcome to "the lead," everyone. president trump's executive action temporarily banning visitors from several countries from entering the u.s., putting a hold on the refugee program and perhaps indefinitely halting the entry of syrian refugees into the u.s. continues to create controversy and conflict. last night president trump finally brought the heft of the office to his trademark line, you're fired, calling the then acting attorney general sally yates an obama appointee weak on immigration issues and accusing her of bee treyitraying the dep of justice. chaos rippled from washington, d.c. to airports to foreign capital around the world. sean spicer was complaining members of the media are unfairly using the term "ban" to describe the president's action. >> he's also made clear this is not a muslim ban.
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it's not a travel ban. it's a vetting system to keep america safe. that's it. it can't be a ban if you're letting a million people in. 325,000 people from another country can't come in, that is by nature not a ban. >> not a ban, okay. but i could have sworn i heard somebody in the trump administration using the term ban before. was it possibly president trump on twitter? quote, if the ban were announced with a one-week notice, the bad would rush into our country during that week. a lot of bad dudes out there. sean spicer wasn't asked about the president's use about the word in that tweet today. >> he's using words the media is using. >> okay. so, though the president put bad and dudes in quotation in that tweet, he didn't use quotations for ban, he was merely using the term that the media is unfairly using. it seems odd, though, right, if you object to the term, you shouldn't use it, right?
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>> it's a 90-day ban to ensure that we have further vetting restrictions so that we know who is coming to this country. >> okay. but to be fair, that was sean spicer on sunday. surely he has not used the term ban since then, such as -- i don't know -- last night when he spoke at george washington university. >> let me just walk through the tick to be. one, the ban deals with seven countries that the obama administration previously identified as needing further travel restrictions. >> okay. everybody clear now? nobody should follow the lead of the biased media and call the executive action a ban. instead, follow the lead of the white house and call it a ban. president trump's actions in office have opened up a fissure. jeff joins me now. what are you learning about what is going on behind the scenes? it seems chaotic from this view.
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>> jake, behind the scenes there is a lot of frustration, much of which you saw play out right there in the press briefing today with sean spicer. but whenever a press secretary is saying something like that, he likely is reflecting the mood of the principal. in this case the president, who i am told is frustrated and furious by all the criticism of this. but, jake, what they're also frustrated by is the fact that republicans on capitol hill won't come to their aid. the white house is still trying to clean up the mess and clear up confusion across the government, from its executive order on immigration. secretary of homeland security, john kelly coming out today in hopes of restoring order. >> this is not, i repeat, not a ban on muslims. >> four days after president trump signed an order closing the nation's borders from refugees from seven predominantly muslim countries, it threatened to escalate into a washington crisis. the president fired acting attorney general sally yates, a
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hold over from the obama administration. after she stood in defiance of trump's travel ban. the white house said she betrayed the department of justice and swore in a new acting attorney general. as democrats protested the substance of the order, republicans were furious for not being consulted. >> regrettably the roll out was confusing. on a go forward basis i'm confident secretary kelly is going to make sure this is done correctly, that they get a good review and we are going to make sure we get this program up and running with the kind of vetting standards that we all want to see. >> secretary kelly who must implement the action at the department of homeland security did not directly say how much he knew about the order before it was signed. >> i did know it was under development. i had an opportunity to look at, at least two as i recollect, drafts as it got closer to friday. >> but across many agencies, the order came as a surprise. and chaos ensued in those early hours at airports and on airplanes. white house press secretary sean
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spicer argued today the order could not be called a ban. >> it is by nature not a ban. >> yet a ban is precisely how the president described it on saturday. >> it's working out very nicely. and we're going to have a very, very strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting which we should have had in this country for many years. >> pressed whether it was or was not a ban, spicer blasted the media today. >> i'm not confused. i think the words that are being used to describe it are derived from what the media is calling this. he has been very clear that it is extreme vetting. >> on capitol hill, democrats are seizing on the confusion, holding up confirmation of some nominees to the president's cabinet. >> the level of incompetence of this administration already only ten days into the presidency is staggering. >> of course, democrats are likely to look for any opening here, and indeed they have found one. the question is is it a a short-term one or is it a
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long-term one. the implementation of any program is always so essential. president obama learned that with the health care act. but, jake, what the white house is most concerned about, again, is that few republicans on capitol hill, even though they have asked them, have not come to their aid on this. they are still working through i would say a few more kinks. jake? >> all right, jeff at the white house for us, thank you. let's move to the astounding comments from the head of the european council of the european union who says the trump administration poses an, quote, external threat to europe's stability. he is lumping the new president in with russia and china as unpredict alan and unchanging forces in a changing world. heads of state say worrying that declarations by president trump are seeming to put into question the last 70 years of american foreign policy. he said the trump administration is among external threats to the e.u. along with an assertive china, especially on the seas,
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russia's aggressive policy towards ukraine and its neighbors, wars, terror, anarchy in the middle east, and in africa and radical islam. the context here is important national security experts say vladimir putin would like nothing more than for nato and the european union to crumble and fall, making his job easier of hastening the collapse of western democracies and regaining influence if not complete control in the eastern europe and beyond. european leaders national security experts say are fearful as to how far president trump's skepticism will go. they see a president who touts america first and whose campaign promises and actions could lead to destabilization and potentially open i a door to increased russian influence. let's bring in the former head of nsa michael hayden. sthank so much for joining me as always. how concerned with you about the role president trump may play in potentially destabilizing the e.u. and nato? >> well, jake, i'm very concerned if our european friends are as concerned as you just suggested.
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look, it's hard to figure right now whether the statements coming from the president are simply a negotiating position to get the europeans to bear more of the burden, which i think all of us in the security community believe would be a very good thing. or is it the first step in disestablishing the national security structures that have kept the world a relatively safer place for the last 75 years. and it remains to be seen in which direction this is going to go. look, the president has made an awful lot about being unpredictable, being a strategic advantage. but this seems to be drifting into a position where our friends think we're unreliable, and that's a dangerous space, jake. >> and the other thing that's interesting is you have on the one hand you have people like secretary of defense retired general mattis who is a big believer in preserving nato, is a big believer in preserving stability in europe through the e.u. and on the other hand you have people like the president's top strategist steven bannon who
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is a self-described len inist and very distrustful of institutions and has spoken very skeptically about the european union and other such institutions and it's hard to know whose lead the president will follow. >> jake, that's exactly right. i've never seen so much daylight between what the president has said, the people closest around him have said in the white house, and what his cabinet nominees and agency nominees have said. i think that's a wonderfully strong team that he selected and they said an awful lot of things inconsistent with some of the messages from the white house. so, now the question becomes where is policy being made? how much is the center of gravity in those 18 acres of downtown washington, and how much of it is out there in the cabinet level departments and the agencies? that's another important issue that was reflected in another executive order over this past weekend. >> let's talk about the executive order on immigration and banning refugees temporarily
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from everywhere, banning refugees indefinitely from syria and then of course the travel ban from seven majority muslim countries that have been pinpointed as national security concerns. do you think the executive order will make the united states safer? >> no. in fact, jake, i believe quite the opposite. it will make us less safe. look, the executive order is based upon two, i think, very twisted pictures of reality. number one, that immigrants, visa holders and refugees were an imminent almost apocalyptic threat to the united states. and number two, that we had no p p procedures for vetting these individuals. both of those are untrue. so, we take this very dramatic step which i think would be justified only in emergency circumstances. and what we've done, jake -- this is really important. there is a civil war going on within islam. that's the center of gravity of
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this current struggle. it's not yet a war between civilizations. it's a war within this great mono theism. when we do the kinds of things we did this last weekend, we strengthen the forces within islam who want this to be a war between islam and the west, between islam and modernity. what we've done, jake, to those folks who are helping us, those who are yet undecided, we've done things that make our enemies within islam's narrative seem to be true. that's going to motivate more people to oppose us and our friends, might even motivate some people to take up arms against us there, and i deeply fear here. >> the big concern obviously being home grown terrorists, most of the terrorist attacks that have happened in the united states within the last ten, 15 years since 9/11 have been from individuals who have citizenship or were even born in the united
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states. let me ask you another question, general. white house press secretary sean spicer said that the white house has not made any substantial changes to the national security council on its principles committee. of course you know steve bannon has been elevated, given a seat on the principles committee and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the director of national intelligence, unlike the way it was in the obama administration, they now can -- they shall come when they're addressing an area of expertise, but they are no longer on the principals committee. is that a big deal, is that something of concern to you? >> it does concern me. now, with regard to the chairman and the director of national intelligence not being guaranteed a seat all the time, that can be managed and i hope it is. the chairman of the chiefs said on your network he thinks they should be there for all your meetings. the one that rile concerns me is the presence of steve bannon there. we can object to the personality and some of the things he believes in, but structurally i just think that's a bad idea. let me cut to the bottom line,
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jake. carl rove was never in a meeting that i cared about while i was director of the central intelligence agency. i think that's the right formula. >> general hayden, it's always good to have you on the show. thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. >> we turn now to capitol hill president trump's nominees for attorney general, secretary treasury have been delayed by democrats. how the cabinet confirmations were brought to a stand still today. that story next. never waver. ♪ because going around is rarely ever as enjoyable... ...as going right through. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [and her new business: i do, to jeanetgo. jeanette was excellent at marrying people.
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welcome back to "the lead." we're sticking with politics now because we are just under four hours away from president trump announcing his supreme court pick. but even before we get to that likely contentious debate, there was a genuine senate showdown over his cabinet nominees today. senate democrats are boycotting committee votes on congressman tom price for health and human services secretary and steve mnuchin to run the treasury department. late today senate minority leader chuck schumer postponed a hearing on jeff sessions. at this point in the obama presidency, at least 12 cabinet or cabinet level nominees had been confirmed by the senate. president trump, he's had five confirmations. secretary defense mattis, general john kelly of homeland security, cia director mike
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pompeo, u.n. ambassador nikki haley and a lien chow at the department of transportation. manu raju is on capitol hill. why was the vote on senator sessions delayed? >> democrats do not want him to be attorney general and they don't have the vote to stop him from being confirmed. they want to make the process as difficult as possible for donald trump. now, this came after a rather contentious hearing today. several hours of a back and forth between republicans and democrats about whether or not sessions deserved to be confirm as attorney general. here is a little bit from today's hearing. >> because we know him to be a man of his word. we know that he will uphold and enforce all laws equally without regard to person just as he pledged. >> he's been a staunch campaign partisan for the president. he has reinforced and supported
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the trump mission, style, rhetoric and views. he was the first senator to endorse. he has attended at least 45 trump campaign events. he wore the hat. >> now, jake, what democrats did was they objected on the floor of the senate to prevent committees from meeting for longer than two hours when the senate is in session. that is something that is rarely done, but democrats have done now for two consecutive days as they try to make a things as difficult as possible for donald trump, but tomorrow the judiciary committee will have a vote on jeff sessions, expected to be approved on a party line vote in committee, and full senate expected to confirm him by the end of the week, jake. >> all right. manu, tell us about the boycott by democrats on the confirmation votes of steve mnuchin for treasury and congressman price for health and human services. >> it was a rather dramatic scene, a move rarely seen in the senate where senators do not show up for a key committee
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vote. in the senate finance committee, democrats were very concerned about those two choices, tom price for hhs, steven mnuchin to head treasury, saying they misled the committee on some of the key questions and answers during their sworn testimony, d dramatically deciding ton show up. under the rules you need to have at least one democrat present to have that committee vote. i had a chance to talk to senator ore inhatch, the chairman of the committee who did not hide his frustration. >> anybody to do something like that, it's just complete breach of decorum. it's a complete breach of committee rules. a complete breach of just getting along around here. >> now, hatch is weighing whether or not to have another vote tomorrow, try to have a vote tomorrow in his committee, force democrats to show up. if they don't show up, the question is what happens next. that could mean that the only way donald trump can get these nominees into his cabinet is
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through a recess appointment because the senate rules require that the committee actually approve it before the whole full senate actually votes. so, that could be the first step that could be a pretty dramatic step for donald trump. it actually can limit how long they can serve in office if the senate does not confirm them to the post. >> manu, lastly if you could, cnn has also confirmed this washington post story, betsy devos, president trump's choice to run education, attempted to pled plegiarize some of her answers. is that possible ? >> it is possible, jake. in her questions and answers to senator patty murry, top democrat on the committee, she was asked about the bullying of lgbt students. and she almost directly quoted virginia knit a gupta, former top obama civil rights official at the justice department saying every child deserves to attend school in a safe, supportive
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environment where this can learn, thrive and grow. as you can see from the screen there, word for word, saying those same things. today she was approved by that committee on a party line vote. the question is will she get approved in the full senate. we'll see in just a matter of days, jake. >> all right, manu raju, thanks so much. be sure to tune into cnn for a special event. i'lling hoping a town hall with nancy pelosi. she will answer nigh questions and questions from the audience t. all starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. one will go home hat in hand, another close one step close ers to the highest position in the land. the final two choices to the white house. which one will he pick? stay with us. yeah, 103. well, let me ask you guys. how long did it take you two to save that? a long time. then it's a fortune. well, i'm sure you talk to people all the time who think $100k is just pocket change. right now we're just talking to you.
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welcome back to "the lead." politics now, barring a sudden change of heart which we know is entirely possible, president trump has settled on his supreme court nominee and tonight we will find out who it is. during the campaign president trump touted a list of 21 potential picks. it was a list drafted by conservative think tank. in the last couple weeks that list dwindled down to four, then three, this week, tonight two names emerge to the top. kneel gorsuch with ivy league credentials rose up as a senate page. his mother was the first female administrator of the epa. number two is thomas hard a man, appeals court judge in pittsburgh raised by blue collar parents who drove a cab while at georgetown law school. pamela brown has been in touch with her sources today. what are you hearing? >> increasing indications are that judge gorsuch will be the
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pick. but as you pointed out, president trump could have a change of heart and the white house is taking extraordinary measures to conceal the topic. even summoning the two top finalists to the supreme court to washington, d.c. adding to this building suspense before tonight's announcement. just hours before the president's big primetime announcement, cnn caught up with one of his two top contenders, judge thomas hardamin on his way to washington stopping to gas up in bedford, pennsylvania. >> can i ask about your trip to d.c., are you the potential supreme court pick? >> reporter: and while he was heading to the capital dfrp >> it's lovely to be here. >> reporter: sources tell cnn increasing the pick will be gorsuch. he aligns with the conservative icon he will replace. he believes as scalia did in the literal interpretation of the constitution. the two men seen here fly fishing in colorado were said to be close friends.
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>> the world suffered a seismic shock with the loss of justice scalia. >> reporter: judge gorsuch's legal opinions on religious liberty attracted the attention of those helping trump make his pick. and the hobby lobby case he sided with the corporations who claimed the so-called contraceptive mandate in obamacare violated the religious beliefs. and he penned the book arguing against assisted suicide and euthanasia writing, quote, the idea that all human beings are intrinsically valuable and intentional taking of human life by private persons is always wrong. at 49 years old, gorsuch could remain on the court for a generation and become one of trump's most lasting legacies. >> he serves for 30 or 35 years, he could certainly have an enormous impact on the law of the land, especially if president trump gets another confirmation or two during his presidency and someone like neil gorsuch becomes the center of the court as opposed to anthony kennedy. >> but it's still possible
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president trump could choose judge hardamin a well regarded conservative with a blue collar background. >> i'm going to try to channel my inner newspaper delivery boy, lawn mowing and taxi driving experience to see if i can be of service here to the panel. >> reporter: he has earned the approval of conservatives on issues such as guns and immigration. last august he joined an opinion that ruled against central american immigrants detained on u.s. soil. something that could have been a big selling point for our new president drawing a hard line on immigration. >> the court of appeals held that central american my grants who were in the united states but out of status weren't even entitled to judicial review, let alone to be released from their detention. that's a pretty important precedent and if you were to follow that on the supreme court, that could have obvious ramifications for questions of the rights of immigrants, especially under this new executive order. >> reporter: he also has a powerful ally. sharing the bench in the third district with trump's sister
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marianne who is also a federal judge. and with three supreme court justices in their 70s and 80s, judge gorsuch may not be the president's last supreme court or judge hard a man depending who he goes with. this determine whether democrats should hold their fire and save it for the next time when that nominee could shift the idea logical balance of the court. jake? >> this is the scalia seat so to speak. joining me to talk more about it, joan, good to see you again. once president trump announces his nominee, what will senators be looking for in the confirmation process? what kind of scrutiny do you expect? >> good question, because tonight what we'll see is we'll see the individual with his family if it's judge gorsuch, maybe we'll see him with his daughters, his wife. it will all be a lot of glitter and pageantry in the east room tonight. then right away it will be the sale on the substance of this judge with a look at his rulings, his speeches, both
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sides will be digging up everything they have. the republicans and president trump will be trying to portray him as someone who would be very good for the country, not just succeed antonin scalia and his style of conservatism, but represent the american public. whereas the other side is going to probably paint him as -- him or if it's just hardiman as narrowly as possible he's not fair for consumer rights, not fair for employee rights. he keeps people, either individual could probably be accused of narrowly construing the right to bring civil rights cases to the supreme court. so, this is -- tomorrow will be the big day as this all really rolls out in a more substantive way. >> my understanding and correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding is that neither gorsuch nor hardiman have ever weighed in directly on abortion as opposed to the third individual, judge prior, who is no longer on the list of potential nominees as far as we
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know. gorsuch did side with hobby lobby, however, which felt that the contraceptive mandate in obamacare violated religious beliefs. that might play out, right? >> right. first of all, you rightly home in on abortion because the president said when he was running for office that that's exactly what he wanted to reverse, roe v. wade, the precedent from the '7 0s that made abortion legal nationwide. he said he wanted it returned to the states for them to decide when a woman has a right to end a pregnancy. so, it's sort of a foregone conclusion that donald trump would be looking for someone who he believed would be against abortion rights. so, maybe there was some signalling back and forth in the vetting along the way, or the trump team might have thought, look, judge gorsuch has ruled against reproductive rights in this way in the hobby lobby case that you mention, jake, and that's good enough. and whatever they got from judge hardiman and the people who were his sponsors who know him as more of a conservative would.
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vouched for him on that front. >> all right, joan, great to have you on. thank you so much. you can watch coverage of president trump's supreme court announcement during ac 360, our special coverage begins tonight at 7:55 p.m. eastern. coming up he was the iraqi translateser. now he lives in america, but he supports president trump's immigration ban. he'll explain why next. (man vo) it was may, when dad forgot how to brush his teeth. (woman vo) in march, my husband didn't recognize our grandson. (woman 2 vo) that's when moderate alzheimer's made me a caregiver. (avo) if their alzheimer's is getting worse, ask about once-a-day namzaric. namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimer's disease in patients who are taking donepezil. it may improve cognition and overall function,
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chaffetz chaffe welcome back to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. more on our top story today in our world lead, the fall out from trump's travel ban from seven muslim majority nations identified as national security concerns. we have two very distinct voices weighing in that we want to bring you. they're on opposite sides of
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this debate. each has served the united states, but in different ways. joining me now an iraqi muslim who goes by the code name johnny walker. he worked as american sniper's interpreter and he supports the travel ban and restrictions. we have with us afghanistan veteran and former u.s. army intelligence analyst and language instructor asal, an iranian american who opposes the ban. johnny, let me start with you. why do you support president trump's travel ban? >> because i want to support my family. i want to support my kids. i want to support my own people, the muslim people, too, live in the united states that want to feel safe. and when their kids go to the school, no one threatens them. i don't want to have that feeling back to me when i'm in iraq, i have my a.k. underneath my head ready to kill people and
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i don't think this is good feeling to have it again. >> so, johnny, let me just ask you, one of the big debates is the vetting needs to be better. obviously you were vetted. how thorough was the process? >> process can take long time, but you know what? it's worth it because you're coming to united states, the best country in the world. so, the time and the process, i wait for four years, five years to move to the united states. i lost half of my tribe. half of my family, my brother. but, you know what? my journey is worth it. my kid, they will thank me and all the generations for what i did. >> asal, let me turn to you. tell me why you oppose president trump's travel ban and restrictions. >> jake, as an immigrant and as an iranian immigrant having to come to this country, having to serve my new country, and the only one that i know, i must tell you that i truly believe in
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a proper vetting process. i believe the ban or the executive order was not based on a thorough vetted intelligence gathering. but instead, it was a symbolic gesture to make a political point, to maintain a campaign rhetoric. and coming from the military intelligence background, it is not logical to base your safety based on a banner, an executive order without bringing all the pieces of the puzzle into play. not to mention the fact that individuals who have contributed to putting this executive order together are clearly not familiar with the demographics that are affected and impacted on daily basis. and in my america, the america that i know, you do not come into a safe haven and shut the door behind you, mr. johnny walker, and tell everyone else that i came in, i'm safe now, no one else can come in.
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>> johnny, go ahead and respond. >> for her or for -- >> well, the idea of you got in to the united states safely from iraq and she is saying that you got in safely and shut the door behind you. obviously there are a lot of people who were in your boat, iraqi interpreters who helped the u.s. army, helped the u.s. armed forces, and they want to get in. right now they're on hold for several months. are you getting in and shutting the door behind you? >> what you said, they hauled for several months? >> for the seven countries including iraq, there are several months they can't come into this country, yeah. >> so, they hold, right? what is the issue? if donald trump, he want a clean obama trash and mistake, and he want to make our guest feel safe
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in her house, just wait few months. what is the problem? i mean, everyone care about united states. he should agree with trump. how about -- hold on. how about -- you will answer me, but i have two questions for you. one question, why you did not say anything in 2013 when obama, president obama that time banned the iraqi refugee muslim program for six months because the al-qaeda members, they came to green turkey? and another question, if you cannot guarantee all are refugees, they cannot come to the united states, 100% they are innocent, i will go with you and i will support your opinion. >> just a quick fact. i think the iraqi slow down in 2011 wasn't a complete ban, but it was a significant slow down
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indeed after two immigrants were thought to have -- two iraqi immigrants were thought to be engaged in terrorism and ieds. that is the question. >> a question for her. >> yeah. >> what is the question? >> he wants to know if you can guarantee 100% -- >> no, just like we couldn't guarantee when he came into this country whether or not he was going to be an element, just like i was not going to be one who was going to be guaranteed safety or it was going to bring safety to this country. this country has had almost 8,000 non-citizens join its military on yearly basis. we have had afghan and iraqi citizens who have put their lives and their families' lives at risk so they can support the mission of the american armed forces. there is no guarantee that is
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why we have a process. this process has been quite successful. and the seven countries that are banned are not -- we cannot -- there is no one -- there has never been statistically shown that there have demonstrated a threat to united states, but the three countries that have, have demonstrated a threat and they are not part of the seven countries that are banned. and what i have an issue with, mr. walker, is that majority of the individuals that don't participate in dialogue a -- i allowed you to speak. allow me to finish. what i have a fundamental issue with is we are politicizing -- there are two issues in this country that cannot be politicized. one, veterans issues, two, national security issues. we cannot bring politics into this. we can't go back and forth between president trump and former president obama. what we can talk about is start a dialogue and create clarity for the american people so no
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one like me who has faced persecution in my old country, my home country where i was born, has to ever feel a threat in their new home country, which is the united states of america. and in this america we should not feel threat or persecution or feel that we will not be able to enter back into our own country after we leave. >> asal and johnny, that's all the time we have. i'm sorry, johnny, that's all the time we have. there is one thing i do want to say, which is the united states owes both of you a great debt of gratitude for your work on behalf of the united states. and i'm really glad you're both here. so, on that i hope all three of of us can agree. thanks for being here. >> thank you, jake. >> i have one -- >> johnny, you can continue with this all off line, but i have to take a commercial break. i'm sorry. the first american combat death on president trump's watch. new details emerging about what happened ed in the terror raid. stay with us.
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we're back with more on our world lead new details on the first counter terrorism ordered by donald trump that tragically led to the first american combat death under his watch as well as the deaths of civilians. today president trump spoke with the family of the fallen navy seal william ryan owens. the white house described the conversation with chief petty officer owens' wife, father and children as somber and lengthy. the raid took place sunday in yemen's province, an area ravaged by civil war and exploited by extremists. the mission, to gather important intelligence on al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula. the americans' ally in the fight, special forces from the united arab emirates. when it was all over an estimated 14 al-qaeda terrorists had been killed, but along with them a u.s. navy seal and according to u.s. intelligence, some civilians.
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36-year-old chief petty officer william ryan owens of peoria, illinois, is the first combat casualty under commander in chief donald trump who personally approved the raid. >> he was kept in constant contact saturday night of the status of the mission. both the success that it had and the tragic loss of life that occurred to that member. >> also killed, 8-year-old nor a al alaqi, the daughter of an american terrorist. her father was with anwar. the new mexico-born terrorist was killed by a u.s. drone strike in 2011. his uncle said on his facebook page she was among those killed in the raid. news later confirmed to cnn who may have been caught in the cross fire, but other possibiliti possibilities as well. >> other terrorist groups use women and children as shields. so, whether this was the case in this situation or not remains to be seen. but it stands to reason that
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either this young girl was used as a shield or she was there willingly in spite of her young age, although all precautions are taken to avoid killing them. it is often unavoidable. >> it was a challenging fight. according to the pentagon, several, quote, female fighters ran to preestablished positions during the raid sunday, taking aim at u.s. troops. al-qaeda terrorists then retreated into a building before u.s. forces called in an airstrike. >> it's rare for al-qaeda and the arabian peninsula to use female fighters. and what this really shows is the fact that they are losing people. they're losing people at a rapid rate and they have to integrate females into their fighting battalions. >> in addition to the death of chief petty officer owens, three u.s. service members were wounded in the fire fight. more were injured on route to support the mission. according to central command, their b-22 osprey experienced a landing so rough it was unable to fly afterwards. that aircraft was then deliberately destroyed.
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in a statement president trump called the mission successful, adding that u.s. forces were instrumental in, quote, capturing important intelligence that will assist the u.s. in preventing terrorism. unquote. >> what you're seeing here is that in a very difficult, very uh steer environment are special operations forces were able to do something that was very, very significant. >> and our deepest condolences to the owens family. today is the last day to do something. what is it? it's our money lead and it's next. stay with us. what are you doing? getting your quarter back. fountains don't earn interest, david. you know i work at ally. i was being romantic. you know what i find romantic? a robust annual percentage yield that's what i find romantic. this is literally throwing your money away. i think it's over there. that way? yeah, a little further up. what year was that quarter? what year is that one?
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welcome back to "the lead". the money lead, it is deadline day for obamacare. maybe the last for obamacare ever. if you're seeking coverage under the affordable care act you have until midnight to sign up under some exceptions. even though president trump and congress have made the first move to try to dismantle the law, it is the law of the land. so far during this period, 11 1/2 million people have enrolled in the federal and
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state exchanges. that is up from this time last year. that it for "the lead." i'm jake tapper. i'll be back for president trump's supreme court pick. nancy pelosi. turn ing it over to wolf blitzer in the "the situation room." >> happening now, breaking news. the president's pick, president trump will reveal his supreme court nominee three hours from now at a primetime announcement. he's called his top two finalists to washington like a high stakes version of apprentice. who will be his pick? chaos and confusion, trump tells his acting attorney general, you're fired, after she questions the legality of his travel ban from mostly muslim nations. the white house insists it's not a ban, but that's the word used by both the president and his press secretary. uphill fight, every democrat is digging their heels in the confirmation of the attorney general nominee and they've boycotted committee votes for