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was confronted with the difference between two nations, specifically on refugees. president trump is now trying to restore a ban on refugees while prime minister trudeau tweeted to those flees persecution canadians welcome you. here is more from the white house news conference. >> president trump, you seem to suggest that syrian refugees are a trojan horse for potential terrorism. while the prime minister hugs refugees and welcomes them with open arms. i'll like to know, are you confident the northern border is secure? >> we're actually taking people that are criminals very, very hardened criminals in some cases, with -- which -- with a tremendous track record of abuse and problems. and we are getting them out. and that's what i said i would do. i'm just doing what i said i would do when we won by a very, very large electoral college
vote. and i said at the beginning, we are going to get the bad ones, the really bad ones. we're getting them out and that's exactly what we're doing. i think in the end everybodye everyone is going to be extremely happy. i will tell you right now a lot of people are very, very happy, right now. >> jeremy diamond is there at the white house for us. jeremy, let me just underscore the conversation we just heard about equally as important as what was asked is what wasn't asked. you heard those reporters shouting other questions, maybe more pressing questions. but we didn't hear anything about michael flynn. >> yeah, absolutely. the president was not asked to address this broiling controversy surrounding his national security adviser, michael flynn. but that was a dance on full display, the relationship between trump and trudeau where really the two leaders tried to avoid topic of disagreement, and really the prime minister of canada saying it's not his role
to lecture trump. that came in particular reference to a question on immigration ban which prime minister trudeau disagrees with. but really the two men trying to focus on the commonalities between the two countries. both talking about shared values, military cooperation, and of course issues of trade and commerce. but you know, you did hear the president of the united states there making a very unapologetic defense of his immigration been a while the canadian prime minister really trying to say, listen, i don't know to get into this here today. but still reaffirming, you know, that that is different from how he is governing in his country where he has really welcomed refugees with open arms. >> jeremy, thank you. we may not have heard about it in the news conference but cnn is learning the national security adviser general michael flynn is on, quote, unquote, thin ice. this is according to a adviser who owes also quote the knives are out over reports that flynn lied to top administration
officials about whether he talked sanctions with russia before he actually started the job. so apparently even suggesting that those sanctions will be revisited in the trump presidency. joining me, two analysts. i want to welcome both of you. kaya lee, you have been in the east room mega joint news conferences many, many times. quickly on this notion from some people that the press weren't asking the right questions, but it's also look at the people -- the white house, and specifically the president called upon to ask the right question. >> right. i mean there is always -- when you have a two and two or a one and one with the president and a foreign leader typically the press corps has a question on its mind generally and that's what the reporters who are called on will generally ask about. but president trump, and we saw this before in his press conference on friday with the
japanese prime minister. he called on, they have chosen to call on outlets that are conservative and they are asking questions that the president or the white house really want to be asked about as opposed to some of the questions that other outlets may have asked about. and what we've seen, which is interesting, is that the other country's press corps is tending to ask some of the more aggressive questions. we saw that even with the british prime minister may when she visited. there was a very tough question from that side and today again. look, if you are a rtd roar and you get a question you are entirely within your right to ask whatever you want to. >> moving off of that and onto the future of nsa chief michael flynn, raymond, here's my question for on. that let me play sound first. manu raju just talked to the republican senator from maine, susan collins, specifically about general flynn. here is what the senator told him. >> if he was not being truthful,
should he step down from that decision? >> that's really a decision for the president to make. i know what my decision would be, but that's -- that's really a decision for the president. >> your decision would be -- what your decision be, to remove him? >> it would be very difficult for me to continue to rely on someone in such a vital position if i found ought that the person had not been truthful in describing his conversations important foreign nationals prior to the appointment. >> she's being very diplomatic. but, raymond, i mean, if this were happening under a reagan administration, which you know, or others since, what do you think would happen to michael flynn? >> well, brooke, the whole michael flynn episode reminds me of the -- what happened when harry truman was asked whether unemployment rate would go up, whether it would go down.
and truman said -- he brought in the economist and the economist said, some of them said it would go up. some said it would go down. he said send me a one-handed economist. brooke, 234 this situation you have two sides of the issue. carol lee, in the wreath journal reports that the fbi said that -- "wall street journal" reports that the fbi said that transcripts say michael flynn did not discuss sanctions. on the other hand you have the "washington post" and the "new york times" asserting that the intelligence community finds that general flynn had spoken about sanctions with the russian ambassador. so i would say let the situation play out. let the president decide very slowly. and given the fact that there are these conflicting intelligence estimates -- the fbi is an intelligence service.
>> right, right. carol let me ask you, we want to talk to you because you are a reporter with the "wall street journal." what do you know? >> we reported actually that sanctions were discussed in the conversations between the national security adviser flynn before he was national security adviser and the russian ambassador. but what the fbi, what our understanding is that there wasn't an explicit promise made, which is a difference. you know, but this is -- so there is the action, and then there is the react. right now, what folks inside the white house say is that it's the fact that flynn was not forthcoming about this, that he misled not just the vice president but also the chief of staff of the white house and the press secretary and others who spoke very confidently saying no sanctions ever came up in his exchanges with the russian ambassador. in fact when he was really
pressed on this this week he said i don't really remember and you look at the transcripts and it's in there. >> he goes up to the media on friday. s that man who watch as lot of tv and reads and tweets. raymond, carol's point to you that on friday afternoon the president said he knew nothing about this story whatsoever? >> i saw that on air force one when the president made that statement. if that had happened in the reagan administration, which you asked me about before -- >> yes. >> -- i think that president reagan would have said something in a very similar fashion, that he didn't know anything about it, until he could worket out with his staff. and there is an investigation, as you well know, brooke, going on inside the white house run by, i gather the chief of staff, reince priebus, on the issue of whether or not who knew what, when, and how much was revealed by what kinds of transcripts. >> okay. >> well, and also -- >> go ahead carol. >> one of the thing that they
want to figure out is where everyone is headed, who thinks he should go, and who thinks he shouldn't and that's an active discussion. >> carol lee, we'll look for your paper. i know you are reporting for that next chapter. raymond, thank you so much as well. there is that. we are also learning fascinating new details about the power struggle within the president's inner circle beyond general michael flynn. source they will our jamie gangel thatt reince priebus and sean spicer are also feeling the heat. i have got jamie with me here in, no. randy evans is with us, a member of the rnc from georgia. jamie, first to you on your reporting, the knives are out? >> they are. and you know, when someone louiss that expression in washington, d. washington, d.c. it's not good. this is also not good whether this is general flynn or the chief of staff or sean spicer. when the president doesn't come out and say that he has
someone's back, their support, then, you have to worry. >> he has been so silent on this. >> correct. and as we all know, donald trump is not often sisilent. this past weekend he tweeted that steven miller did a good job out there. we have not heard anything about these other people. i think the way to put this is, house of cards has nothing on house of trump. and we are seeing a jockeying for power here. and the person that i'm told is first among equals is steven bannon. >> steve bannon. >> who is the chief strategist. he has done something that i think is very interesting. he makes alliances. so he may make an alliance with son-in-law jared kushner on one thing, with reince priebus on the other. at the ends of the day he is the one, team bannon, with steve
miller who is really in the best shape. >> he has his ear before he goes to bed. my question is, who stands up to president trump? who says no, it might not be a good idea? >> i think we've learned that nobody does. >> nobody? >> i mean people will to a certain point. i've been told even his children will only go so far. you have to remember you have some people in there who are lowlyists. they have been with him forever. he says jump, they say how high. that's just his personality and their work. and people like chief of staff reince priebus, sean spicer, white house press secretary, these are people that the republican establishment were hoping would get in there and discipline him. it doesn't work that way. and they are trying to feel their way. but as a result we see a lot of chaos and confusion. >> randy evans, let me ask you here about this conversation, adding on to jamie. the conversation that brine stelter had over the weekend with news max executive
christopher reddy, who is apparently a good friend of donald trump's. he told him that reince priebus is in over his head. >> i think there is a lot of weakness come out of chief of staff. i think reince priebus, good guy, well intentioned. but he clearly doesn't know how the federal agencies work and i think the president is not goating the backup he needs in the operation of white house. and sometimes the pushback that he needs, which you would have with a stronger white house counsel. -- white house chief of staff. >> ranee, you know rhines well. let me add in some of our reporting is that reince priebus is having to follow the president around be part of his conversations, linen stead of actually doing his chief of staff duties. is there a risk of reince priebus not then getting to do his job? >> i don't think so at all. i think rhines is actually doing a pretty phenomenal job. it reminds me so much, brooke of the first hundred days whenever speaker gingrich took over in 1995. which is it's a lot.
first of alling you have got three dynamics at play. one is you have the peter principle, which is everybody wants the bring their people up. but congressional staffers don't always work so well in the speaker's office and staffers a the rnc don't always work so well in the white house. second of all, what you have is a constant battle for turf. a constant battle for this kind of building alliances. and i thought that it was a great comment to say, yeah, that's what's going on. finally, you also have a little battle fatigue going on because it is a lot in 24 days. this presidency -- you have to agree with me, brooke, seems like it's a lot longer than just three weeks. >> that's -- thank you. that's randy what i was going to say. is that we are just 23 days in. i mean, i understand the turf issues, and the loyalty factor and every administration has personal shakeups. but it's just been 23 days. >> that's right. and so i am actually rather
surprised that there haven't been more miscues, more broken eggs, a more little bit open turf battles going on. i think a rt large part of that -- >> how do you explain the leaks randy? >> the leaks are new people. to be candid with you the more new people you bring in. president trump's first rule of thumb i don't want the washington establishment. i want new people coming in. when you have new people coming in you bring in leaks. as you and i know the people who know the most say the least. and the people who know the least say the most. >> want to talk. >> exactly right. they want to prove maw important they are. we always see that in a new administration. we saw that in the first 100 days of the congress. i'm just astonished that rhines has been able to keep everything pretty much under control. i think it's a skill set he developed as being the chairman of the rnc where we had everything from ted cruz to rand paul to jeb bush to lindsay graham. we had them all at one time, 17 of them, on the stage, trying to
compete. and he kept the party together. he is taking that skill set and now he is using it in the white house to kind of keep it together when the pressure cooker, the pressure cooker of action is the greatest. i don't know. i think he is doing a pretty good job you. >> heard randy, jamie. lay in. last thought. >> rhines preeb success a great guy. i did a big profile on him. we spent a lot of time behind the scenes with him. but he has never done this particular job before. and i don't think we've ever had a president fair to say, like donald trump before. so i think the challenges here are beyond what anyone could imagine. >> imagine. jamie, rappy, thank you all very much. appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. coming up here, when north korea launched its missile over the weekend, the president openly discussed strategy in a crowded dining room of his home down in palm beach, which is certainly raising some eyebrows.
we'll discuss all these details coming up next. also ahead, the president's adviser handles peddles claims of voter fraud with absolutely zero evidence. i have someone joining me life who is offering cash to anyone who can prove this. also is there a spike in deportation raids? or is this business as usual. >> we'll look into that. you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. c'mon in, pop pop! happy birthday! i survived a heart attack.
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welcome back, you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. moments ago, president trump named north korea as one of the biggest security threats facing the united states. saturday night, the regime launched a missile statement president trump was eating dinner in a crowded dining room in his mara lago estate in florida with the prime minister of japan, shinzo abe. cnn reports the president took the call in the crowd and afterwards discusses the call openly as his iceberg salad said on the table. his aids even held up the camera lights from their joerks phones to the sensitive documents so the president could read them over the candle lit dinner
table. all these details from the white house. the evening meal quickly morphed into a strategy session, his decision making on full view to anyone in the private club. fareed zachia joins me, host of fareed zakaria gps. always great to see you. before we get into options that president trump has what do you make of all those details that i just read? >> look, everything president trump does is unorthodox. i don't think it is a big deal. i think this would have happened if they had been out in the a restaurant. one thing worth noting is that people calling itamaro lago is his estate. it's actually not his estate. it's a private club, actually quite public. anyone can rent public rooms there for wedding. i've stayed at mara lago several times. it is a nice hotel. so it is a very public space. so the president is going to be spending that much time there, i
would probably would be fairly complicated for the secret service to create the kind of secure location that they have turned camp david into, the white house, obviously. >> they couldn't have a separate room? >> i think they could, but you know, if you go there, you will see that the president is eating and meeting with public, these are all public rooms, these are all places where -- and i think legally members of the club have the right to be in all these places. it's actually not his estate. it is a commercial public space. >> club, sure. >> that he happens -- he perhaps has a suite there or something like that. but it's not like he uses all the hundreds of rooms in the place. >> the u.n. security council less than two hours away from the emergency meeting over north korea. what are the president's options? >> it is a very tough challenge. and i don't think people should -- people have been faulting the president for not responding immediately. i don't think you should respond immediately. i don't think you should fall for the bait. the biggest problem we face is we don't have much leverage with north korea. the united states, europe, we
don't sell them much, bedon't buy anything from them. banks don't do business with them. china is really the only serious economic power with regard to north korea. i think china provides 90% of north korea's energy and 50% of its food. so the question is, can you get china to get serious about north korea? they issued a statement saying they condemned the test. so there is a possibility here that you would be able to debt them to go further. the chinese -- too hard the regime will collapse and then they are stuck with millions of refugees, the unification of north korea. the only strategy here that will make sense is one that involves china centrally. china is the only one that has any kind of pressure they can apply on north korea. >> also before we get to senator graham's sound the fact he was with the japanese prime minister that was not a coincidence that
the north koreans decided to do this. >> they decided to do this on the eve of the prime minister's have it as a way of showing their defiance. >> they have done this in the past. the truth is no administration so far has found a really effective path in. the obama administration came closest. they got the chinese to condemn it and got them to put some sanction on. i think that's the path you need to go down, but more. you need the chinese to really push. >> finally, this is the president's first huge test. we have heard from senator lindsey graham multiple times, critical of the president. he says the president is up for handling this particular task. here is the senator. >> i'm convinced that president trump is going to have a better chance of changing north korea's behavior than president obama. president obama looked weak in the eyes of north korea. and the only way you will get north korea to stop their missile program is if they believe the american president would use military force if he had to. >> he says better than obama. what do you think?
>> i think everything will spend on his strategy with china. i don't agree with senator graham in that the north koreans would welcome a couple of strikes. it would unify the country about them. this is a regime that forced 2 million of its people to die because they in effect forced a famine onto the country. they couldn't care less if they have some casualties. it would strengthen the nationalism and the regime. they have one patron in the world. we have to figure a way in. that's why i'm glad that president trump stopped with the taiwan overture. >> got on the phone with president of thoin china. >> because that's your path in. the only path in. >> fareed zakaria thank you very much. coming up next here on cnn, the trump administration doubling down on claims that president trump only lost new hampshire thousands of voters were bussed in from massachusetts. and by the way, saying this without providing any evidence. so we'll talk to the former republican chair of ump in.
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snoi false, bogus, 100% fiction, despite this, president trump and his white house continuing to push claims of widespread voter fraud in an election by the way that trump won. the new target here, new hampshire, for some reason. trump narrowly lost the state and his senior policy adviser steven miller says buss are to blame. >> president trump this week
suggested in a meet with senator that thousands of illegal voters were bussed from massachusetts to new hampshire. do you have that evidence? >> i actually having worked before on a campaign in new hampshire i can tell you that this issue of bussing voters into new hampshire is widely known by anyone who worked in new hampshire politics. it is very real. it's very serious. this venue is not the place for me to lay out all the evidence but i can tell you voter fraud is a serious issue in this country. >> you have absolutely no evidence. >> trump based upon this tweet of congratulations was happy with steven miller's performance. joining me now, ferg us collin, nice to meet you. welcome. >> thank you, brooke. >> you, sir, on twitter, are offering $1,000 to anyone who can prove what steve minute e m taking?
do you have any takers? >> so far shockingly no one has been able to come up with any evidence, no pictures of any of these magic buses delivering hundreds or thousands of people from massachusetts to new hampshire. no one has any evidence at all. >> what's your response to steven miller? >> loo, -- look he says that anyone who worked in new hampshire politics knows this is a problem. the fact is the opposite is the truth. anyone who worked in campaigns in new hampshire knows this doesn't happen. people coming to new hampshire to commit fraud on a scale like this is preposterous. it's untrue. >> steven miller is 31, he says he news new hampshire politics well. we looked in. briefly worked on scott brown's 2014 campaign in new hampshire. two or will he weeks. from california, went to duke. worked for michele bachmann of minnesota, jeff sessions of alabama. does that qualify him to speak on new hampshire elections? >> well, i mean perhaps he has
been misinformed. perhaps he is delusional. i'll trying to give the benefit of the doubt here and suggest he has been misinformed. same thing with the president who has made these claims repeatedly now. perhaps he also has been misinformed although he does have people on his team who do have experience in new hampshire who should be able to set him straight on this. i would like to see the president move on to more substantive issues and focus on doing his job and not focused on sort of side shows like this. >> perhaps he is misinformed, perhaps he is delugal. i have one more for you. a member of the grand ole party. you want to see republicans succeed. why on earth do you think donald trump anded a top advisors are still pushing this bogus theory? >> i don't know. i'm not going to become an arm chair psychologist on this matter but i am saying, look, you won the election, no one is arguing that. supporters and opponents are both conceding that. focus on doing your job and focus on doing good for the
country. these kinds of side shows refighting wars from three months ago on an election which you won are a distraction is disappointing. i'm trying off an open mind, trying to give the guy a chance but it make it hard sometimes for republicans to do that. >> fergis, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. to breaking news on capitol hill. president trump's choice for labor secretary could be in a very difficult confirmation. let me bring in manu raju. tell me about those four republican senators? >> indeed, brooke, andrew puzder, the nominee to be labor secretary face as confirmation hearing this week which could be one of the most difficult nominees for donald trump to get confirmed because of skepticism within the republican ranks. now, sources are actually telling our colleague john king that four republican senators have told the republican leadership they may vote against the pick for labor secretary because of their concerns over a number of his views and some of the controversies in his past.
those four, senators -- republican senator susan collins of maine, murkowski of alaska, item scott, and johnny isakson. i have spoken to all four of the senators in the last several days. all of them are withholding their support. they want to hear what mr. pud puzder has to say at the hearing. behind the scenes there has been a pretty intense effort by the republican leadership to try to lock down support. mitch mcconnell the majority leader views this nominee as very important. they had an emergency meeting with member of the committee in his office last wednesday night where they used a number of these issues. mcconnell i'm told by sources in that meeting made the case very strongly to get behind this nomination saying he would be good for big business and small business and the business groups brooke coming out very, very
hard trying to work behind the scenes to convince those senators to vote yes when it comes time for his confirmation vote. this all raises the stakes for this thursday, where puzder will face questions from senators in his first confirmation hearing. he has to do well in order to ensure he has no more than two defections from republican senators. any more than two is enough to scuttle the nomination. that could be the first nominee not to get confirmed to donald trump's cabinet if he does not went over republicans. ensuring he makes all the more important his confirmation hearings this thursday. >> manu raju on the add an true puzder nomination. next, president trump and prime minister trudeau making women in business their priority in their first face to face meeting. a report on ivanka trump's influence there at today's event.
help advance working women. >> i just want to say, mr. prime minister, that i'm focused and you are focused on the important role women play in our economies. we must work to address the barriers faced by women, and women entrepreneurs, including access to capital, access to markets, and very importantly, access to networks. >> the driving force behind much of this is the first daughter, ivanka trump. cnn white house reporter kate bennett is with me now. kate, let's just talk about -- first of all, he talked about it on the campaign trail but this is purchase's first foray into women's issues with his daughter with a seat at the table with the head of state. what will her influence look like? that's right. we have to remember that ivanka trump still doesn't have a formal role within the white house. within the administration. she says she didn't want one.
she is in washington with her kids and getting them settled in school, et cetera. it is a little bit inusual here she is leading this charge with the women's issues, something she talked about this summer at the convention. so we know it's important to her. but very much putting together this group of women business leaders and ceos and trying to push the ball forward as she said to level the playing field for this generation and the next one. ivanka is vital in this. >> another woman worth pointing out who has a strong role in this administration, dina powell. i don't know if many people are familiar with who she is and her position, but tell us more about her. >> dina powell used to be at soldman sacks. she is now with the president. a special assistant, an adviser and a counsellor. he thab has been involved with ivanka and close to ivanka since the beginning of the sad administration. she is also one of the people inside trump world at the white house who has previous white house experience. she was in the george w. bush white house, in the state department. she is very actively involved in
this women's issue. because of her and her influence ivanka may have even more of a voice with her dad inside the white house. >> that's a good thing. kate bennett, thank you. now to this, taken from their homes and their workplaces, millions more are bracing for that knock on the door, afraid they will be next. cnn now has new numbers on exactly how many undocumented immigrants have been arrested in recent raids all across the country. so we have now a total of 680 people were detained across five cities. you see them here on your screen, l.a., san antonio, chicago, atlanta and new york. more than 680 people arrested. we are told 75% of them were convicted criminals. my next guest is witnessing firsthand the fear taking hold. mexican immigrant caesar vargas was 5 years of age when he himself crawled under a fence and cross over the border from mexico. he just made history as the first undocumented lawyer in new
york. caesar nice to meet you. >> thank you for having me. >> i understand there is a whole notion of fear. i was out in california last week, i spoke to a senator about it. he ooeld told me about the children. which i want to get to. is there a spike in deportation? is this on par from the last few years? what are you seeing. >> this activity does not reflect an increased activity on immigration enforcement. >> it does not. >> does knots. immigration is accurately saying that this immigration arrests were planned prior, almost several weeks before. and the other important thing is that many of these people let the record deported were issued during the obama administrations. >> that's a important note. a lot of people are thinking this is president trump, fear. >> yeah. >> but you are right to point that out. >> it shows the disconnect between the white house and the department of homeland security. no surprise, just like in any
other issues, they are very disconnected between what president trump is tweeting and what is actually happening on the ground. >> you mentioned the president's tweets. let me read this. i would love your response. he tweeted on sunday the crackdown on illegal criminals is merely the keeping of my campaign promise, gang members, drug dealers, and others are being removed. is that a good thing? >> this divisive rhetoric is creating a climate of fear in our communities. and just for example myself i'm undocumented even though i'm not going to let fear dictate what i'm going to do, the violent my mom is calling to make sure i'm okay. my mom is also undocumented and i'm calling on her to make sure she's okay. i'm hearing stories, many of my clients are calling because they don't want to walk outside to the store, they fear they will not return. many children are fearing their parents not come back if they got to store. this is a climate of fear that donald trump is creating and it's not what we need from the
president. >> i want to ask you about the fear a little bitter mo. when you look at the obama administration, he deported the greatest number of people than any president in u.s. history. it was more than 2.5 million undocumented immigrants removed from '09 to 2015. >> right. >> what is it, why this sudden fear now? >> it's the rhetoric. but also you are absolutely right, i think the reality is that both parties are at fault for a broken immigration system. the immigration agents, individually they are just enforcing the law but they are enforcing a broken immigration system that is separating families at this point. president obama did deport more people than any other president. but the reality at this point is to make sure we have people, a community, and we have leaders who are actually coming out to protect immigrants. governor como said if there is a move to support immigrants, let them start with he moo. where is he at this point? it looks likes it was a a
election year and he is more about talk the talk than walk the walk. >> quickly, you are undocumented, you are undocumented on live national television. why are you here. >> that's the reason i went to law school, make sure i represent my community, american families. right now, people are not just fearing that criminals are going to be detained but people are getting detained with no criminal records. veterans are at risk of being dert poed. we need assistance that's going to keep us safe. absolutely. but we cannot use our resources or the power and our tacks to detain and deport a mother who is simply seeking a better opportunity for our family. >> some americans would disagree. i respect your inapproximate. thaupg for being on. coming up next, breaking news involving president trump's travel ban executive order. what the justice department is planning to do next. also ahead, "saturday night
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just into us here at cnn, a new development in this legal battle over president trump's travel ban. the department of justice filing a brief today, asking the judge to postpone any further proceedings. cnn's supreme court reporter ariana devoe joins me now. what does this mean? >> well, today judge james robart asked the government to file a brief on the next steps in the case. you remember robart officially
blocked the travel ban from going forward. last week, you remember the federal appeals court upheld robart's order. what robart said today is, okay, where do we go next, what are we going to do. the government said, look, right now we would like you to postpone anything in the district court, and that's why. the ninth circuit may decide to re-hear this case, and if it does, then it would be premature for us to do anything here at the district court level. so as of right now the government says can we postpone for now at the district court, and when we hear from the ninth circuit court of appeals, we'll come back to you with a status. the government did not mention in its brief any sort of larger steps that trump might take. >> okay. still on hold to delay the case for now. now this. mentally though, are you okay? >> are you kidding me?
>> melissa mccarthy strikes again returning to "saturday night live" as the thorn in sean spicer's side. she ripped the way he handled questions on president trump's travel ban and she brought pops. >> you've got your tsa agent right here, okay? first you got barbie coming in. nice american girl back from a dream vacation. we know she's okay because she's blonde. so she gets in. easy, we understand that perfect. now, who's up next? uh-oh. it's moana. whoa. whoa. slow your roll, honey. and then we're going to pat her down and then we're going to read her e-mails and if we don't like the answers, which we won't, boom, guantanamo bay. >> oh my goodness. >> hilarious. >> every monday, judy gold,
famed comedian and television writer/producer. >> i like that. >> peabody award winning comedian. nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> he got the peabody, go ahead. >> it's right here. >> how does "snl" continue to top itself each and every week? >> there's so much material, and these characters are so rich. i mean, they are full of personality. and to just break it down like they did with the barbies, that's essentially what you're saying. you can mask it any way you want, but it's so funny. >> that sketch was great because it was layered. it wasn't just about spicer being aggressive. within it they get to the substance of their policies. i thought the best sketch that they've done maybe ever was the fatal attraction, kellyanne conway thing. this is why, because it speaks to the thing that scares me most about this administration, it's like right to your face blatant falsehoods and lies.
i understand politicians lie but these -- >> there she is. channelling her inner glenn close from "fatal attraction". >> i thought this was a necessary sketch. >> with jake tapper. >> yeah. >> it's also that she dies. >> let's listen for a second. >> i'm sorry. i didn't know. >> kellyanne, what the hell are you doing here? >> i just want to be a part of the news, jake. >> this is how you do it? by breaking into my apartment. >> what was i supposed to do? you weren't answering my calls. you changed your number. i'm not going to be ignored, jake. >> you don't get it, kellyanne, you made up a massacre, we can't have you on. >> but i miss the news. >> quickly, kellyanne has responded. let's put up other tweet so everyone can see. in the end of the sketch she falls out the window. inspiring minds.
jake tapper and i spoke this morning before brunch time. no boiling bunnies. >> you get the sense now that as we speak -- >> she's breaking into jake tapper's house? >> maybe screening a cnn interview and putting it on youtube. >> they are so over the top in real life. i mean, this bowling green massacre and this constant -- just give it up and say, you know what, i screwed up. but they don't and that gives us more. >> i'm wondering though how people use comedy, if on some level comedy is used to actually affect real life politics. i was reading this piece. let me read a piece of his op-ed. obviously "snl" can't undermine the creditability of an administration but it can play a key role at a time when polls show most americans distrust the mainstream media. it may take "snl" to be the voice of reason.
>> comedy is disarming and you can speak about any subversive topic through humor. humor really makes things palatable. once you laugh about it and say, you know what -- you can really show the substance. >> by the way, i don't think the goal here -- and i know dean is a great writer. i don't think the goal is to undermine this administration. the goal is to hold a mirror up to what they're saying and go, does this seem right to you. you notice trump in the past week has not tweeted about any of this. i think 11:00 on a saturday night they're hiding his phone. they're putting it under stuff that he doesn't read like security briefings or something. or maybe they gave him a phone filled with candy and he thinks he's tweeting. i think they know if they react there's going to be pushback. >> the greatest part is they all know he's watching and that's one of the greatest things about it. >> one thing we noted last week and i wanted to point it out, these women playing -- kate mckinnon playing senator jeff
sessions or now the ag jeff sessions. melissa mccarthy playing sean spicer. i was sitting down with the legendary carl and rob reiner last week in l.a. and they had this idea. >> i love the fact that trump was upset that sean was being played by a woman. so now i'm hearing they're trying to get rosie o'donnell to play steve bannon. i'd love to see a woman play trump, meryl streep or whatever. >> meryl streep. they were like let's give alec saturday night off and bring meryl in. >> she did it this past summer. i think that's hilarious. i think leslie jones wanting to play him, that is -- >> leslie jones on "snl" wants to play intertrump. >> i want to play jared kushner because i would have no lines. >> they hear him get upset that sean spicer was played by a woman so it's sort of like a game of i'm not touching you
with trump. the more he says stop it, the more they're going to do it. they were like, okay, what woman can play who? oh, i can play jeff sessions. it's so beautiful. >> the highest rated "snl" in 22 years. >> higher than when he -- it's got to drive him crazy that alec baldwin beat him. >> i wish i had more time. "the lead" with jack tapper starts now. thanks, brooke. nothing like a north korean missile launch to save you from dinner party small talk. "the lead" starts right now. out like flynn? the president's national security advisor increasingly under pressure after he may have conveyed to russia that obama sanctions could possibly be lifted by president trump and misled everyone from voters to the vice-president about it. the situation dining room? president trump facing a major test on the global stage as north korea fires a middle east. the commander-in-chief setting aside his wedge salad to handle the crises out in thepe