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in advance that a defense secretary or any other senior u.s. official is going because of concerns of security. and once again, that speaks volumes. ben wedeman, thanks very much for all your good work. that's it is for me, thanks for watch, i will he be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. in meantime, the news continues right now right other on cnn. wolf, thank you, hi there i'm brooke baldwin. you are watching cnn. today of course is president's day, but for thousands of people, they are expected to observe the holiday by taking to the streets, in cities around the country, to protest the current president. these are dubbed these anti-trump rallies called not my president's day. they are planned for big cities, washington, d.c., los angeles, chicago, atlanta and new york, where 14,000 pem are expected. the organizers are protesting what they called, quote, un-american policies of the current white house. so we'll look into that.
meantime, president trump will leave mar-a-lago down in palm beach later today with two important items on his agenda. one, find a new national security adviser. he know he has been interviewing a couple of candidates over the weekend. two revise the executive order on the immigration ban and border security. we have looked at the draft of this executive order. it could come at some point this week banning travel from seven muslim majority nations. how might this be different than the original one? >> well, as you said, he's going to issue this new order. and he said, to protect our people. what what's key here, brooke, he has to write it -- the lawyers have to write it in a way that it won't be blocked by the courts, right. two federal courts halted the previous one. we have seen some glimpses of what might be in the new order. over the weekend, homeland security chief john kelly, he acknowledged something, that was
in the first one was poorly rolled oud. he said we are going to phase this in differently and that should ease those concerns. you remember all the chaos at the airports that the first one caused. >> of course. >> there are still several drafts going on. another thing they are going the make absolutely clear is that this executive order does not affect green card holders. that was confusing the first time around. they are also likely going to address religious discrimination and maybe a section on syrians, syrian refugees. >> those are specific caveats that could be in this new executive order. we don't know definitively because right they haven't put it out yet. you mentioned this is to stand up against potential court challenges. if you use those caveats you ran through, would it have legs of getting through? >> that's the thing. the challenges are waiting for this one. eagerly waiting for it of the they say unless there are drastic changes they are still
going to challenge it. they say tweaks won't be good enough. the administration, it hopes it will 2350i7b8ly do something that will provide a win in the court. >> thank you so much aryan devogue. let's begin with my panel, jeff zeleny, general mark hurtling, dave restin, and danny is a val owes. welcome the all of you and happy -- thanks for hanging out with me on a holiday. danny, let me bring you in first here, on arian's points. maybe this new iteration this executive order will clear up some of the issues. maybe it won't face the same cham challenges. she mentioned the bit about green hold carders or syrian refugees specifically. how do you see this going? >> i see the challengers waiting to challenge this new executive order because even if it carves out the lawful permanent residence, remember the plaintiffs in the washington case challenged everything including even the refugee ban. >> right. >> based on the idea that the
contention against torture creates a statutory right in potential refugees in seeking asylum, and that alone gives them due process. they will be watching to the degree -- we all talk about the word due process. in this context it moons you can't just summarily take away witness is's rights without giving them notice and an opportunity to be heard. to the extent a new executive order lacks any of that, that's one example of how the challengers will pounce on it immediate & ly and seek to invalidate it. >> do you think they will pounce no matter what. >> i think they will because i think the new executive order is going to seek to protect lawful permanent residents and exclude anyone else that they see fit based on the administration's belief that the executive has sole power over immigration. now the ninth circuit says that's not exactly true. the courts can review kpds for constitutionality. and seshl especially if challenged if brought for a challenge or federal district
court. not only can they stay it, they may be able to invalidate it nationwide. >> this one could be out as early as tuesday. thanks so up in. jeff zell me i'm coming on you. we've covered the rest resignation of the nsa chief general flynn. and for the very first time today we've heard the public reaction from the vice president, right, the question, was he misled, how did he feel? this is how he has now said. >> i was disappointed to learn that the facts that have been conveyed to me by general flynn were inaccurate. but we honor general flynn's long service to the united states of america. and i fully support the president's decision to ask for his resignation. it was the proper decision. it was handled properly. and in a timely way. and i have great confidence in the national security team of this administration going forward. >> just curious, your response
to his word disappointed, and then looking ahead. who else are they looking at? >> brooke, it was the first time the vice president has talked about this publicly. and he was very upset and agitated. and right will he so, about this. because as he said, he was misled. his advisors will say he was furious about this. you saw it in the "washington post" more than a week ago -- a week and a half ago or so. that is when he first learned about this. look, he said he supported the resignation of general flynn and they are moving forward. but the question is who are they going to find? we do know the president interviewed at least four contenders over the weekend in florida in mara laga. but we are told that that may not be the sbir set of people being considered for this. they are looking for someone who a wants the job and b kind of shares that's president's view points.
several of the names, three are military names, one is a former ambassador, john boulton who of course is very familiar to foreign policy circles and other things but he does not have the same views as this president has had on things. a key question hanging over all this, will the person be able to bring in their own set of advisors here. that is something that sunk one of the contenders last week, bob hareward. he was simply not given those assurances brooke. i am told there is not a front runner and they are not close to making this announcement but they hope to do it this week? general, you told me you know three of the four of the names that we do have. you know them pretty well. tell us about them. >> all three of them commanded organizations at various levels to include up the division level, bob caslen, a classmate of mine, commander of the 25th infantry division, attache in baghdad, three star general, now the superintendent of west point, has been doing that the
last four years. that's something that's considered a retirement job, the last job in the army, it's normally five years. but he is a very disciplined and very practicing of the maic individual. he's a great leader and a very good friend of mine. h.r. mcmaster commanded units at all levels. as a captain he was a hero of the battlefield in desert storm. received a silver star at something called the battle of the 73 easting where he fought way above his weight class. he came back as colonel. commandsed a regimen in northern iraq and was the hero in bringing a city around during the surge period. keith kellogg retired. i knew him on the joint staff. he was one of the staff officers there. he retired in 2003. each after retirement he went the iraq and was part of the coalition provisional authority. all of these guys have quite a bit of operational experience. they are all very solid soldiers. they have degrees of smartness
and degrees of charisma. but they have to put an organization together which is the nsc, that will be very difficult because there are all kinds of cultures and all kinds of egos in that organization that come from a variety of agencies across the government. that's a tough job, and it works 24/7/365. >> brooke -- >> as juf jeff pointed out those are just some of the names fleet floating go ahead. >> this is somewhat of a credibility test for the administration after the mess of the last couple of weeks. from the beginning when flynn was advising trump on the campaign there are there were a lot of questions about his background and his tweets and his beliefs. and this is really a chance for the white house to kind of turn thing around on this subject, show that they can put a credible person in there that's going to have the support of congress, and move past so many of these issues that they have had over the last couple of weeks. i mean there are a lot of members of congress, john mccain over the weekend, talking about
real concerns that they have about the nsc, and they need to move on with this. >> what about quickly, former ambassador john boulton, some people are pointing out how totally different he would be maybe from a trump philosophy, especially where they were when it came to the war in iraq. i know senator cruz told manu on friday he would be his pick. but are you surprised he is in the running? >> boulton certainly would be a big departure from what trump's philosophy is on this. so it is surprising. >> you are being very diplomatic. >> like huge. so it is surprising that he is in the running here. obviously, he's, you know, thrown his hat in the ring a couple of times, running to president. i would be really surprised if trump goes with boulton. >> okay. >> but at the same time he does need a strong is your gatd on those sunday shows and boulton is certainly a well-known figure in all of those circles.
>> jeff, back to you on -- we have seen fig nurs the white house, tillerson overseas, mattis overseas, the vice president over seas, here's a piece of what the vice president has said. >> it is my privilege here at the nato headquarters to express the strong support of president trump and the united states of america for nato and his transatlantic alliance. the united states has been a proud and faithful member of nato since its founding in 1949. it plays a role in promoting peace and prost pirates in the atlantic and frankly the entire world. the united states commitment to nato is clear. >> jeff, how did he do on reassuring our allies, some of whom have had some jitters since november 8th. and also defending the president's message on nato that he said over and over, you have got to pay your fair share? >> i think the vice president as he has been doing the first month in office has been walking
a fine line with saying he is of course supportive of the president, and there is no daylight between them but also trying to reassure allies. but the reality here is that you know, there are questions about the president's commitment to nato and the european union as well here. and he was asked some very pointed questions about that n. one session this morning a reporter from the bbc asked the vice president who to believe, his words or the president's words? and can't the president suddenly always change policy, you know, on social media in a tweet or at a press conference? and the vice president soft of danced around that a little bit and said look the u.s. is committed to its allies. but i think there are questions about the degree to which the u.s. is committed to nato. but this is part of the change that president trump has been talking about for a long time of he wants the countries to focus on terrorism more and to pay their fair share more. but the vice president, again, a
balancing act, as his job entails. >> who to believe, it is a valid question give some of the mixed messaging, general, jeff, and may have been, thank you very much on this monday. we have breaking news, live pictures from some of the protests across the country. these are the not my president demonstrators, several major cities, new york, l.a., d.c. to name a few. we will make sure we hit them in a round robin coming up to find out what these americans have to say. also ahead, former campaign manager for donald trump, corey lewandowski speaking out and he says some people are letting the president down during his first 32 days in office. and the british parliament debating touchdown on whether to withdraw their invitation to president trump. back in a moment. >> people in this room and maybe in this country as well cannot understand why it is that the people voted for donald trump, why people voted for brexit. until people in this room understand that, then i'm afraid there is going to be more of the
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welcome back. you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. it is a holiday today. it is president's day. and for thousands of americans, you have the day off and many of them are protesting the current administration. so across the country right now, in mega cities from los angeles to new york, this is not my president's day, and that's rallies are underway, demonstrators say they are marching against the president's policies on immigration, climate change, and human rights, just to name a few. so cnn has team coverage with these three fine reporters, ryan young in chicago, paul vercammen in l.a. bryn again grass in new york. bryn, how is turnout. why are they there. >> reporter: this is what democracy is. everybody can come out and say how they feel at about the issues at hand right now.
now more than ever. you can see it is a good crowd here. new york city. it is amazing to think this was a grassroots evident. it started out a facebook post asking people for people to come out today for the not my president rally. and it multiplied as you mentioned across the country. that rally is separate from the one we are talking about right now. the not my president rally is happening here in new york city all the way down this block. and there's just a number of people kept away from trump international hotel and tower, buy i did just walk down there not long ago and i can tell you that it stretches about a quarter of a mile. a number of people have come out to support this effort. and as i said, brooke, people have all different reasons as to why they want to be here and they are very vocal about it here in new york. >> bryn, thank you. to the west coast, paul vercammen, what are you seeing? >> well, as you can imagine, brooke, in los angeles they get rather theatrical. if we look over here. we have got a few hundred
people. these folks painted their faces orange and they safe orange fever. among other things they are saying the only no anecdote are facts. that was a rally that started a few hours ago. all part of the not my president rally. let's give you a sense of what some people think here. i'm going to bring in stew right now from santa monica. your sign reading no ban, no wall, california welcomes all. there is quite a divide you think between a lot of californians and the president. tell us about that. >> i think california values are that they love our immigrant people. i'm from an immigrant family. my father is a child refugee. we fled war, and we need the same for other people, of all religions and faiths. take you for taking time out. we will give you a wide shot, brooke. you can see, as i said we have got a few hundred people here in los angeles. again. some of it quite theatrical. >> paul thanks to you, thank her as well.
to chicago we go. ryan young, what are you seeing. >> >> reporter: >> we have seen this crowd swell. we have seen creative signs. you told me it's important for you to be out here today. why did you think it was important to come out to this protest? >> i have never cared about politics more until now when you find that our figurehead cannot be trusted. and this is -- trump-pinocchio that my friend sue cook made. you can hashtag it and check it out. seriously, we have to do something. we have to stand up. we won't stand idly by. >> reporter: trump tower is over here in chicago with a big sign. this is where people were gathering. they were here yesterday having another protest. now there are speakers are in the center talking that they are going to march. you heard that lady's passion.
they are talking about coming out and continuing this the next fewis de. you can see the cops blocking the way to trump tower so people can go in that direction. this is somethingmer doing often as people come in and continually protesting over the last couple of days as we step through the crowds. >> i love what she said. she hasn't been so passionate about politics her life. you know what, that applies to the entire political spectrum. a lot of president trump's most dedicated supporters have not lost faith. that was crystal clear over the weekend in florida why he held his first campaign rally since taking office. there to greet him, thousands of people who waited for hours and hours in line to hear the man they elected as president. one of those supporters is good enough to be with me now. these tamara muscler. tamara, nice to have you on. >> thank you for having me. >> so you have thousands of people on saturday. you just saw the picture from these he's not my president rally across the country. i imagine you are passionate
about politics and you want to talk to me on national tv here. what do you make of what is happening in the country right now? >> i just find it extremely sad that we are this divided and we can't come together and unite behind a president. we had eight years with president obama, and now it's president trump's turn, and it would be nice if we could at least give him a shot. he has only about there just over a monday now. >> we talk about divide in the country. i understand even some of the women in your family aren't all on the same page. by the way, i think you are not alone. i think a lot of families right now are divided. and you were also a little nervous to sort of say out loud i'm going to the trump rally on saturday. tell me why. >> because people are so angry and so vehemently against president trump. and there is no reason for it. he hasn't been doing anything too outlandish or anything like that. so i just feel like we need to give him a little time, step
back, take a breath, and see what he can do. he spoke to the american people. he spoke to the working class people. and they believed him, and he's given them hope and restored their dream. >> you said he hasn't done anything too outlandish. i mean, i have to push back and say between you know not saying a bad word about vladimir putin to even his comments at that rally about, you know, crime, or an attack in sweden that never happened, to even last week citing his electoral win, the biggest since president reagan, which isn't true. i just have to ask, tamara, has your trust in this man ever wavered? >> no, it really hasn't. he's not a politician. he's not polished. he doesn't know all the ins and outs, the way to speak, and loopholes. and he says what's on his mind.
unfortunately sometimes he may misquote a fact here or there or say something out of order. i think that's him not being a trained politician. and i think that's why most people voted for him. >> absolutely. i think you are hitting the nail on the head why a lot of people who are trump supporters are trump supporters. speak to the people in the protests around the country saying he's not my president. what is the biggest misconception among those folks for someone like you? >> well, when i saw him in person at the rally, the way he -- he reached out to the people. and he just -- you felt like he genuinely cared about you and who you were. and he and his family just -- they -- it's -- i don't know how to describe it. it's just an unbelievable feeling that he actually -- you feel like he is talking to you one on one. and if you ran into him, you feel like he would give you a
hug and say there there, and he's willing to stick his neck out to help you. >> tamara mustler, so important to hear from voices such as yours. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. next, keep all your records, all your correspondence related to russia. that is the message sent from the senate intelligence committee as they are preparing for this possible investigation into russian interference in the u.s. election. we'll talk about that. also, president trump calling the news media the enemy of the american people. how that's being received, including for members of his own team. you are watch be cnn.
administration, preserve all records related to russia. cnn has learned formal requests were sent to more than a dozen organizations and agencies and individuals just last friday. the very same day that the senate intel committee received a classified briefing on russia from james comey himself, the chief of the fbi. white house chief of staff reince priebus says, just because they are looking into these connection, right, just this request, he said, doesn't mean there is anything there. he denies any collusion between trump campaign staffers and russia w. that, let's go to phil mattingly working on this holiday with me. cnn's congressional correspondent. you got multiple committees looking into any sort of russia ties. where does this go from here? >> that's the big question. you saw what reince priebus said, you have seen the request to preserve documents. it's not that the request it self was out of the ordinary. an investigative committee would do something like this par for the course for any investigation. but the scope and the timing
ises what drew everybody's attention. if you look at the playing field, a lot of democrats have been calling for an independent committee or a special prosecutor. republicans have made it clear that's not going to happen. but what we have seen particularly in the senate has been a bipartisan effort as part of the intelligence committee to dig deep into it. we were taken aback when we saw jim comey out of blue walk in and meet with the members of the committee on friday as the rest of their colleagues were going away for the senate recess. in the top two members of this committee, it's historically a partisan committee, they are aworking to the in this probe. when you talk to senator in both parties what they are hearing what they have been told it is early to draw conclusions you but i do think the idea that there is a serious look is into what is going on. someone actually occurring, the big question, will the committee remain independent, bipartisan,
and what will they find. >> we shall see. coming up next, president trump calls the media the enemy of the american people. but his top officials have a different message. hear what they have to say next and how people are responding to those words. also ahead, shocking surveillance footage that appears to show north korean leader kim jong-un's estranged brother being attacked at a crowded airport moments before he died. we are looking into that investigation coming up. people confuse nice and kind but they're different...
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news label after reporters questioned him over the weekend. his claim about some sort of attack in sweden. false. the president went to far as to declare the media quote the enemy of the american people. if you ask top republican lawmakers he is wrong on this. >> i hate the press. i hate you especially. but the fact is we need you. we need a free press. we must have it. >> thank god you are there. you are there to hold people accountable. >> if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times edadversarial press. >> i've had some contention times with the press, but no the press as far as that i'm concerned with a constituency i agree with. >> while he don't always agree with reporting of the press they are vital. such an important part of democracy. >> without it i'm afraid that we
would lose so much of our individual lib ertsz over time. that's how dictators get started. >> brian stelter it's talk about this. host of reliable sources. when you say the media is the enemy of the american people, our friend carl bernstein who helped break watergate wide open, led to the impeachment of nixon, when you have carl bernstein saying -- >> crossed the line. >> crossed the line, yes. >> cnn, "new york times," nbc, abc, and cbs. i think donald trump is trying to drive a wedge between outlets that he likes or dislikes. wallace on fox was challenging reince priebus. carl berns is suggesting this is worse than nixon. in 1972, nixon was on audio tape saying the press is the enemy. but that was in private.
supposed to be a secret. president trump is going further saying this publicly in a proud way on twitter. of course he has only been in office 30 or 31 days. makes me wonder what he is going to be saying 30 months from now. this is 30 days in. >> what's the fear. from a white house correspondent on all of this here fear is what. >> speaking to spend epts, one in particular who said my marry is when thee virtual comments turn into physical threats, a random voter, who hears the president say this and takes it into the physical world. it's one thing to be booed at rallies. reporters are used to that they are not there to be friends of anybody in the crowd. you there is a fear that it could turn violent. and the other question, would president trump use the you are po of the news agency to punish
the outlets he doesn't like. we haven't seen that. there has been talk about defunding the parent company of pbs. that's been a republican topic for a long time. if it becomes actions not just words it would be more significant. >> rush limbaugh says it is the media that is constantly attacking the president. here's what he said. >> the media did not make donald trump. and he can't destroy him. but the media thinks, and i -- when i say media, let me define, abc, cbs, nbc, "new york times," "washington post," auz today, l.a.times, the kadri. they have a formula, they have a blueprint for destroying republican political officials they don't like. it's not going to work on trump. he doesn't fit that mold. they are trying to every day. it's kind of comical to watch. >> i'm glad he is having fun, glad he is enjoying it. >> i heard you laugh listening
to him. he has tens of millions of listeners. makes me wonder how many people believe that. >> certainly, something rush limbaugh has been trying to erode trust in in the mainstream press for decades. part of his appeal is that he is anti-media. trump is picking these fights because the media is powerful. in some ways he is going after the media instead of the democratic party because the party is weak right now and trump needs an enemy. but there is a broader problem here, whether the president likes it or not, he does have a credibility problem, and his bhus u.s. white house haas a credibility problem. yesterday the white house said president trump was playing a couple of holes of golf. then rory mcelroy was with him, thenity it was an entire rounds of golf. >> that's a little thing. >> a little thing. but an example of a big problem. that in and of itself not a big deal. i would argue misstating the facts about sweden not even a
big deal. however it's part of a wider issue with this white house. that's why there has been aggressive coverage. it's not because the journalists are trying to take don't the president or because they voted for or against him. >> to me it goes back to what we talked about after the mega long press conference. it was peter alexander's question, if you present americans with false facts how are they to trust you. >> i think the country wants to trust the president. not the voter you were interviewing, she is inclined to believe the president. >> she feels he is reaching out to her. >> for other americans down the block right now they should be able to trust the president but right now the president is making it hard to do that. thank you very much. coming up, sweden reacts to president trump's claims of violence there. we talked to the person who happened to be running sweden's twitter account, handed over to private citizens, when this whole thing happened. her take coming up.
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back on twitter this morning, president trump explaining a little further his claim about violence tied to immigrants in sweden. this is what he twoeted, quote, give the public a break, the fake news media is trying to say that large scale immigration in sweden is working out beautifully. not. this followings remarks president trump made at a rally in weekend in florida. listen exactly to what he said. this is in response to an incident that did not happen in sweden the night before. >> you look at what's happening in germany. you look at what's happening
last night in sweden. sweden. who would believe this? sweden. they took in large numbers. they are having problems like they never thought possible. >> let's go to ivan watson our senior international correspond end there in stockholm. how are people in sweden -- how is the government reacting to this? >> reporter: people here, this has become a joke. the #last night in sweden with pictures of supposed terrorists that include the pop band abba and the swedish chef from the show the muppets. a guy i talked to said we started thinking did somebody take our swedish meat balls? the embassy offering to reach out to the state deputy offering information and trying to clarify on this. in the last couple of hours the swedish prime minister has come out and said he was surprised about these comments and
conceded that this country does have problems and challenges that it wrestles with much like any other country in the world crime and immigration. but he also had some words that were unmistakebly words of advice or criticism for the u.s. president. take a listen. >> do not forget that in international rankings in issues such as equality, human development, competitiveness, we like our guest today from can a canada, are doing very well. so yes, we have opportunities. we have challenges, we are working with them every day. but i think we must all take responsible for using facts correctly, and for verifying any information that we spread. >> reporter: brooke, immigration is a contentious political issue here. sweden took in -- gave asylum between 100,000 people between 2012 and 2015. but there is no direct correlation between that and any
crime here. the u.s. state department says that crime grew 4% from 2014 to 2015. but most of that was due to computed-related fraud. and this country has not been the target of a successful islamic extremist jihadi inspired terror attack in years. >> laughing it off with swedish meat ball jokes and abba. i got it. ivan, thank you, in stockholm. let me bring in a unique guest here. a school librarian was in charge of the official @sweden twitter account on saturday. all of a sudden she is inundated in sweden last night. she is a mother sitting at home with a broken leg when she found herself responding to comments made by the united states president. i understand you were up to 3:45
in the morning inundated, answering these tweets. who were some of the more memorable ones? >> there were quite a few. one was like trump saying there is a terrorist attack. and then there was a comment under there saying sweden commenting saying, nope. just short, to the point. it was pretty much what i tried to do. like finding facts and just seeing if there was anything, truth to it, and then coming up with the answer that, no, there was no truth to it. so it was a nope. >> quickly, i'm having a lint of a tough time hearing you. americans in particular, what were they tweeting? >> most of them, most americans
apologized for the president, which i thought was pretty sad, really. that they apologized for the president. >> apologizing for the president. i saw the former prime minister had tweeted sweden? terror attack? what has he been smoking? questions abound. what did you make of his word choice? what has he been smoking? >> i kind of get it because i checked all the main news sources we have here in sweden, and there was nothing. there was just --a contest, there was nothing else. that was the main news. i was wondering where he got it from. >> i appreciate it. let's go to president trump. we are getting a quick picture here down at mar-a-lago in palm
beach. >> he is also is known for a long time general, keith kellogg, who i also have gotten to know. and he is a terrific man and they are going to be working together. and keith is going to be chief of staff. and i think that combination is something very, very special. i met with many other people, tremendous respect for the people i met with. i know john bowlon we are going to be asking to work with us in a somewhat different capacity. john is a terrific guy. we had good meetings with him. knows a lot. has a good -- a good -- a good number of ideas that i must tell you i agree very much with. we'll be talking to john boulton in a different capacity. and we will be talking to some of the other generals that i have met that i have really, really gained a lot of respect for. so i think with that, i'd like to ask h.r. to say a couple of words. i'd like to ask keith to say a couple of words. and then i'll see you back in
washington. we are leaving right now for washington and the white house. general? >> mr. president, thank you very much. i'd just like to say what a privilege it is to be able to continue serving our nation. i'm grateful to you for that opportunity. and i look forward to joining the national security team and doing everything i can to advance and protect the interests of the american people. thank you very much, sir. >> you are going to do a great job. >> general? >> mr. president, thank you for the opportunity to continue to serve. i'm very honored by it, very privileged by it, and very honored and privileged to serve alo alongside h.r. mcmaster. i known him years as well. 's great statesman and a great soldier. >> so are you, what a team. >> sir. >> this is a great team. we are very, very honored. our country is lucky to have two people like this. and frankly, after having met so many people in the military, we are lucky to have all of them. thank you very much, we're
leaving for washington right now. thank you. >> all right. we are going to hang on to every second of that. all of a sudden here breaking news. president trump has now officially named his national security chief. he is lieutenant general herbert raymond, h.r. mcmaster. he was one of the four candidates that had been floated. they were speaking at mara la guardia. he traveled to bauch. the president interviewed multiple candidates over the last 24 hours. now this is who he has chosen. you know the back story. it was initially general mike flynn. he ultimately tendered his resignation over an issue of trust in misleading the vice president, not letting the vice president know that there had been this conversation with -- the russian ambassador and general flynn as it pertained to sanctions in russia. that led to the rest resignation. and then we knew that there was
someone else, bob hareward who was floated. but he said no on friday, who would it be? now we know. let's go to the pentagon. barbara starr with me now. now we have it, general h.r. mcmaster. >> tell me more about him. >> well, this is someone that is very well known i will tell you to many member of the pentagon press corps who traveled over the years to iraq and afghanistan 678 he has done a number of tours of duty. he is very well respected. how to say this. he is a very independent thinker. this is a guy who says what's on his mind, does not suffer fools gladly, has worked in some of the toughest jobs, worked with some of the toughest people. i suspect that he will say, knowing him, exactly, what is on his mind. but let's look at some of the practicalities for the president here. he was turned down by a retired admiral, a currently serving
active duty, someone who is still on the job until military, cannot say no to the president. so you know, it may be that president trump and the white house decided to look at somebody on active duty knowing that they couldn't decline, they couldn't say no. but with h.r. mcmaster you getting somebody pretty interesting because he's not known as someone who is going to be anybody's yes man. what he can bring to the table at the nsc is probably the much needed internal management to get the nsc fully up and running, to get things coordinated, to get items to the president for decision making base. as a lieutenant general, as a three star, he knows how to do all of that he knows how to get the right people in. he has a pretty good depth and breadth across the military. he will be able to assemble people that he wants, that he has known for years and trusts.
he's also somebody -- and i don't think it should be regarded lightly, someone who is a great military thinking and a bit of a historian. he wrote a ph.d. thesis and book called dereliction of duty about the failure of command, the failures of government back during the vietnam war, something that was very widely read and still is today inside the military. brooke? >> so you are talking about lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster. if we are looking at this picture here he is on our left, trump's right. and on the other side, barbara, that is general keith kellogg. he will be the nsc chief of staff. that was a name potentially floated as the national security adviser. tell us more about him. >> general kellogg retired for many years, a very decent guy by all accounts. he wanted to come back into government service after being oults
out of it for many years. he had been involved in the early days of the operations in iraq, not in a battlefield sense. he was involved in some of the sort of reconstruction, the getting the whole iraq enterprise up and running in a non-combat sense as i recall by that time he was a civilian. he is former serb forpecial for. he served in highly decorated jobs many years ago back in europe. i want to tell a sort of professional/professional anecdote about general kellogg because he and i spoke about this so often. on the morning of 9/11 here inside the pentagon. he was active duty. he was a three-star at the time. and i ran into him suddenly coming out of the national command center. he was the first person that morning to tell me face to face he was quite ashen faced, that it was a terror attack.