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lawmakers continue to face angry crowds of constituents at town halls across the country. as alisyn said i'm in atlanta. that's where the democrats were creating their heat in the battle over who should >> this is day 35 of the trump presidency. we have it all covered for you. live at the white house. >> essentially what has happened here is that the trump administration has told schools around the country to ignore what the obama administration said about transgender bathrooms and more or less, at least to let the states decide. this is clearly a reversal of what donald trump said on the campaign trail and seemed to be in support of transgender bathroom rights but now after a turn of events it has all changed.
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what we do know at least at this stage is that the administration had a bit of a conflict between two of its secretary and the brand new head of the justice department the attorney general. in part sources tell cnn that the president's education secretary oppose the guidance but was pressured on the get on board by jeff sessions and betsy devos issued a statement that said this is not merely a federal mandate but a moral obligation no school, district or state can advocate. claims of discrimination and bullying and harassment against those that are most vulnerable in our schools. it appears that jeff sessions, the attorney general did win this argument. the president apparently siding with him now that the united states government has no
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position on this and they will let the states decide on transgender bathroom rights. >> let's discuss this with our panel. >> we will all have a remote conversation, what do we know about the motivation and the timing for why? >> it's curious about the motivation because trump president and his candidate seemed less concerned about wading into the culture wars and he has an attorney general that is interested in waging the culture wars and has been less willing to advance gay and transgender rights. so this is a matter that is
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going through the courts. it might get to the supreme court. there's been some disagreement and there has been a judge that's been blocked where we were. blocked that guidance that the obama administration had given. what is striking to me is that the president is willing to wade into this area of denying students rights at a time when gay rights have come so far so fast in this country and it's been bipartisan too and he is perfectly happy. it helps to unite conservatives, even social conservatives at a time with lower approval ratings. >> okay. so you have this basic notion that you're putting it out there which is is he doing this just to appease the base? we have to ask that because this is not what he has said on the issue. here's a clip of him on the "today" show talking about this.
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there's been very few complaints. they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. there's been so little trouble. >> so if kate rin jenner were to walk into trump tower and want to use the bathroom you would be fine with her using any bathroom that she chooses? >> that is correct. >> the "today" show playing update lycaitlyn jenner but whe he was referring to the fact there hadn't been a lot of incidents. and use this as a reason to create more victims, president trump and candidate trump saying there's no proof of that. but now they shift. >> this speaks very much to the power of jeff sessions in trump's orbit. jeff sessions has been a really big figure for quite sometime now in trump's world and world
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view and his execution of governance. this is a president that never governed before so he's looking to other people to show him the way and the fact that he conceded to jeff sessions on this issue is very important because it signals that he's willing to put aside some of his own personal inclinations and actually defer to the base that he doesn't necessarily personally identify with and side that and on controversial issues we saw it on the supreme court pick as well. he's deferring to the core of the republican party. that's what a lot wanted to see from him. >> betsy devos was not fully on board with wanting to do this. in fact she communicated her
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feelings we're told to jeff sessions, attorney general and then she was summoned to the white house on tuesday. it was communicated to her you can re-sign or get on board with this. and then she, her, the education department had to issue this directive. i'll read it to you at my direction. remains committed to investigating all the claims of discrimination bullying and harassment to those most vulnerable in our schools. this is an issue solved at the state and local levels. schools, communities and families have solutions to protect all students. what do you think of this? >> i don't think this would be surprising at all. even though donald trump isn't animated by social issues and hasn't been socially conservative in anyway he made a deal with part of the republican party base and he has stuck to that. that's one of the reasons
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they're among his most loyal voters. and trump's predecessor dictating to local schools. and how they're supposed to handle this issue. part of it is the other issue though of transgender children not using the bathroom of their sex at birth and this is something that you should be surprised at all when you look at how trump has dealt with social issues and the pact he made with social conservatives and going between devos on the one hand. >> yet he is nowhere near this and we say that obviously because of what went on in
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indiana. he was aggressively anti this community and these kids in this instance so the politics here are interesting. betty devos in an early move that seems to be threatening to her probably won her a lot of fans against her during the confirmation process. >> right. i think the internal fighting is very interesting and i think that hits it on the head. the attorney general formed a world view and the influence on him, he has also been very loyal and he's going to have a lot of sway. i do think it's worth saying that as we talk about this in a political context you have to predict that all the variables are coming down. look at the debate in this country and struggling with the idea of who you are and be who you are the way god made you and hear all of these politicians talking about the rights you ought to v it's hard for me to see this holding up. there's parents around this
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country and around the world who are in relationship with their children and their children are saying this is who i am and i want to be comfortable in who i am and they're going to get a lot of support from their parents and they'll continue to come in line. it's very hard to reverse the trend. >> we have one of those coming up on the program. she was the mother of a son that tragically killed himself because of the issues she faced at school and helped craft the obama directive. it looks like some form of this case will be heading for the supreme court and the case from virnl virginia so this is being waged in the schools and the courts and at the dinner table. >> i do think that actually, you know, to david's point, one of the interesting dynamics here is why you put something into place
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and then you roll it back. what happens then? i think it becomes much more -- it's much easier for people to see the sort of advancement of these rights and you can't put the genie back in the bottle. one of the challenges that the supreme court is going to face is dealing with this question of sure it's easier to say that it's states rights but what happens when a kid moves from kansas to new york city and do his rights as a human being change? that's a question the supreme court has dealt with numerous times in this country's history. i suspect this will not be differ and may not matter what the trump administration said on this issue. the fact that they will not dend it. what may matter more is this idea of civil rights and constitutional rights that are, you know, afforded to people all over this country. >> right but remember the power of legislation and cementing
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those values. after the gay marriage case everybody celebrated but those that understood the law best said no, this is just the beginning, not the end because until you have legislation that's what title nine is all about. you're going to go case by case. the next one. panel thank you very much. the unveiling of the president's new travel ban delayed until next week. is that a good thing or a bad thing? the white house says details of the new executive order are being vetted. that's why there's a delay that the councils office is owning this and they want to avoid the confusion and challenges of the last time. meantime, two top trump officials are now in mexico. secretary of state rex tillerson, john kelly meeting today with mexican president. the mexican government taking a defiant stance against the tougher u.s. immigration policy which calls for returning people in the u.s. illegally to mexico
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regardless of nationality. >> those angry voters continue to rachet up the heat at town halls and this is just a vocal minority or the outrageous manufacturer. >> there's no evidence and another town hall will take place today. what's the story. >> we are in iowa. there's been a 20 degree temperature drop and no one is expecting that today and have been heating up across the country. >> republican lawmakers across the country coming home to this.
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>> the anger palpable in arkansas. senator tom cotton looking out over a sea of protestors in a packed town hall. something emotional about the prospect of losing coverage under obama. >> what kind of insurance do you have? >> others expressing frustration over the new administration including this 7-year-old boy. >> donald trump makes mexicans not important to people who are in arkansas who like mexicans like me and my grandma and all my people. and he deleting all the parts in pbs kids just to make a wall. >> in new jersey, a record crowd. >> how you will mobilize the
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other republicans to push back against this man when he makes delusional statements. for not standing up to the president's so-called alternative facts. >> i believe that when the president misstates. >> in california tempers erupted after cites them this question. >> will you support a bipartisan investigation of the trump administration's dealings with vladimir putin and russia. >> i'm not sure that an investigation which would take up an awful lot of -- >> liberal groups across the country holding empty chair town halls for lawmakers reluctant to face voters.
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professional protestor. >> i am not a paid protestor. at today's town hall, i can tell you everyone is expecting a packed hall here today. a lot of emotions. she never cared more about the political process. >> you know, i know from your reporting this suggestion that it's all organized we don't see the people standing up or being shouted down by other constituents there. it's an obvious reflection of the mood. thank you for the reporting. we look forward to more on this. what is it about? is it just temporary or election reaction? or are we seeing the seeds of a major movement within the
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not the flash in the pan that it was written off as initially and it is all over the country. angry constituents at town hall meetings just like this. >> i can tell you three members including me that would be homeless if it was not for aca. you work for us. >> what we're seeing in town halls reflecting, what we're now
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seeing president trump's approval rating new low, 38% in a new national poll so what is this about? is it something sustainable? is it something that could change the democratic party? let's bring back the panel. those of us who have all the frequent flyer miles around we've seen this in reaction to a new president before. we saw it galvanize and change in the face of the republican resistance into the tea party. do you think that is this equivalent. >> i think there's anger. and the anger in our country is not just ideological. i think it's social division. i think it's moral division. i think this is what we're talking about today on transgender and gay rights. the president is beginning to tear at the social fabric of the country. in addition he's threatening to
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take away a major new entitlement which has been given so there's debates over social morality and the role of government. what government should be doing and this is like 2009 with president obama. and a big debate and the tea party and the bailout of obamacare. i think the left is awakening in this country and figure out how to challenge trump and i don't buy the idea that it's manufactured. there's a fair amount of organization going on within districts and coming in from the outside and we should do what the right did very effectively at the grass roots going back to 2009. >> there's so many echos of 2009 as you'll recall then white house press secretary robert gibbs said almost verbatim what
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sean spicer said yesterday. he said i think a lot ofthisis manufactured. these are paid protestors. he dismissed it and that's what robert gibbs then in 2009 said about the tea party so let's just flash back for a moment to watch this. >> especially over health care reform. and i think you had groups today and bragged about organizing and manufacturing it. >> how great was it to see him there but it's just incredible to hear almost the exact same thing echoed yesterday. >> yeah but what's old is new again in washington. but if democrats could have
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bottled up this energy and enthusiasm in the 2016 presidential campaign. they would have done it. and we would have been in a completely different situation and now they're dealing with genuine anger and anxiety from members of their base and they're trying their best to channel it and i think this is the biggest question. will they be able to move that into something that actually matters. and they're historically disadvantaged in part because they can't get their voters out but if they're able to maybe take some of this energy and bring it to midterm election we could see something different because it's still very unclear whether this sort of genuine organization, the expression of anger and anxiety is going to motivate people to go to the polls and also to support democratic candidates and whether there will be democratic
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candidates in the places they need them the most. >> it's interesting. even what abby just said as the distinction this time was said the last time. hey they didn't have it during the election. who is this new group now all of a sudden. reaction formation is a powerful thing in politics. the big difference is whether the tea party is organic and this is more top down and we'll see that as it evolves. trump at a new low. respected outlet, 38%. the most stark partisan divide we've seen among republicans. he's over 80% approval and among democrats he's below 7% approval a nice footnote in that one just with the current company media, more trustworthy than trump in the poll. 52-32. >> that's a poll i don't trust. >> that's almost as bad as the tapper gig. >> look i am the media so i'm talking about myself here.
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you really hit the nail on the head here talking about the difference in how republicans view trump and how democrats view trump. his numbers are bad and the polling is real. the question is how the polling is distributed. if you go to california, if you go to new york, a democratic district, trump's numbers are probably historically bad with members of the opposite party. but with republicans he is still holding strong so the question for 2018 and this also deals with what i think are very real, very real energy in these town hall meetings are are these voters in places where they can make a difference in the elections. even a republican district will have a couple of hundred thousand people and if you still have more republicans in that district and those republicans are still happy with donald trump which they are then you're not going to see a change in
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2018 then they start to move against the president then you have something to talk about. >> panel, thank you very much. >> all right. it is one thing for democrats to say they don't like or agree with the president. it's another thing for them to be able to beat them. that's what we saw here in atlanta last night. the 8 candidates that want to be the dnc chair they went at it in a debate. how to reform their party and how to take on trump. who came out on top? you decide we'll give you the highlights, next. their training is developed by the same company who designed, engineered, and built the cars. they've got the parts, tools, and know-how to help keep your ford running strong. 35,000 specialists all across america. no one knows your ford better than ford. and ford service. right now, get the works! a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more -- for $29.95 or less.
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an military base that they launch a large scale offensive. and senior international respondent and all the breaking details. >> this attack on the airport began early in the morning and we understand from an iraqi official we haven't mentioned his name because he hasn't been authorized to speak to the media and that airport is now 100%
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under the control of iraqi federal police in addition to that action on the airport in the military base the iraqi forces have entered that area and are currently fighting with isis. in addition to several other neighborhoods to the southwest of the western part of the city and in addition to that we're learning from sources inside mosul that this morning there's a coalition air strike on a building that houses many isis fighters and their families. that was hit more than 100 people inside the building. understand that isis is now going from house to house in the area looking for cell phones because they feel that local residents have been provided information to the iraqi military and coalition. >> please stay safe where you are. appreciate the reporting. >> so democrats out there, who is the best person to lead your
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party as chair. republicans out there is the enemy. we have the answers from the big democratic dnc debate last night ahead.
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8 candidates vying to lead the democratic party laying out the vision for future at a cnn debate i moderated with the one and only dana bash.
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there was an exchange about the uphill battle facing democrats and the trump administration. one candidate saying there's already grounds to impeach president trump. >> donald trump has already done a number of things that legitimately raise the question of impeachment. the democratic party needs to take the fight to donald trump. >> donald trump as deceptive as he was did say he was for jobs, training, infrastructure and protecting social security. that's our message. that's what we do. he stole a democratic message. >> one thing would be to put a 35-year-old in as chair of dnc. >> this is what the people in our country are demanding our systems go toward. something that's collaborative and truly inclusive and something transparent. >> the dnc never allowed outciders and people that rise
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to the raings. it's always been an insider game. >> it's missing the point. we have to take it. >> don't have the time for the tests. >> did you cut a deal? >> no, we cut no deal but what we did say is its so essential. >> a unified democratic party is not only our best hope. it's donald trump's worst nightmare. >> who had a seat at that table? is it important that the democratic party in rebuilding whoever the new chair is recognizes that there is a sense there that it hasn't been equal playing field for everybody? >> i'm glad you said that. we have got to resume the mantle of being the party of fairness. >> excellent question. let's pick up on that point and bring back david gregory and david druker. david gregory, a very
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interesting aspect last night was these fundamental questions. who are you? what are you about. how are you going to win back your base and expand? easy to say but hard to answer. that's why there's a lot of default to what we heard. >> at the heart of that question is this business whether trump is a legitimate president in the eyes of a lot of americans. particularly those that oppose him so this is not just an ideological fight although it's partly that if you look at the unity among republicans. it's the social fabric of the country. it's who are we as americans. i think one of the primary challenges to the democratic left is overinterpreting the election. was it some kind of fundamental
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realignment. that's still true. the democratics in the country are still trending toward the democratic party. will they hurt themselves or help themselves by this kind of soul search something i don't know the answer to that but i think that's very much in play. how important is the dnc chair to lead the party. there's all these other voices between bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and barrack obama. who knows what role he will play? who know what is if any role hillary clinton will play. >> i will argue this is not as important as democrats are making it out to be. they devoted an enormous amount of time to this process partly because it needed to seem a lot more open than the perception that the democratic primary was rigged or that they had maybe set things up so that it was easier for certain candidates to rise, et cetera.
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at the end of the day there is no exception to that and fundamentally what the 2016 election exposed was that top down organizing that party based structures are not sufficient to win an election. what is needed rather is more grass roots motivation and what the dnc party chair can do is encourage that and they can't create that and i think that's one of the sort of elephants in the room last night is that nobody can really say how do you get the sort of genuine feeling to bubble up from the bottom up. it's hard to explain that. it's hard to manufacture that. what they can offer is leadership but they can't promise that any one of these people can create that. >> i do think that grass roots organization is so key and the dnc chair is in a position to build that scaffolding and that's what is missing. >> do you know who would agree
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with you? we heard from him all along. when trump started to move the numbers, he said don't write us off on this by the way. we have been out here for years. and creating situations on the ground that gop didn't have before in the states that matter and sure enough it paid off. david druker last night they were going strong until midnight because they feel so strongly that this person while traditionally logistics and planning and management is going to be a real voice of opposition and they were framing the discussion of who was the right voice in that context. >> it's somebody that's going to focus on party building and organizing and policy makers in washington and on the ballot in 2018 have the apparatus they need and take advantage of any opportunity that comes their way
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and trump's approval ratings are low and you can get democrats to run for office. they need a party supporting them and one of the things they tell me is that the democratic national committee could become irrelevant and so two things, the party needs to get better at that and they also have to appeal to voters and none of the candidates were answering that. >> two top trump officials getting a chilling reception in mexico, that's not a shock. this is a tough deal for tillerson and kelly to mend fences in mexico with trump's new immigration action in the offering. we're going to look with how this dynamic needs to go. next.
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so if you go outside today you'd think he's not the most reliable prekick to. make it feel much more like spring and winter. >> he blew it. completely blew it. >> 74 in d.c. this afternoon. temperatures are going to be nice all across the country. 2 dozen places will bring record highs today all the way from ohio down to the gulf coast. now and may get it right and will be a dozen south of the city for tomorrow and warm air stays here for the next few days. and potential for severe weather tomorrow in indiana and ohio but the temperatures remain nice all the way through the weekend. finally cooling down up in new york on sunday but i oom going fly fishing today and i'm opening a invitation to you
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chris. >> i appreciate that very much. i happen to be very close as you know. i am in atlanta. this is a massive place. for all i know you could be four miles away. next time have to take a rain check because have to get back up. but i'd love to fish any time. you know that. march madness is in the air. syracuse and duke playing a thriller last night. another amazing assignment monitoring another awesome event. >> good morning. going into last night's game syracuse on the bubble in terms of making it into the tournament. they needed to beat duke to keep hope alive and i tell you what, this game came down to the final seconds. we were tied at 75. had a chance to take the lead right here but they missed the shot. going to get the reboun and this happens next. the buzzer beater, not sure he called glass but they get the win 78-75 and of course all the
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students. tom brady's super bowl jersey is still missing. yesterday he posted this to instagram and on it you see suspects like lady gaga, golum from lord of the rings, julien ettleman and even a picture of himself and pretty rattled when it originally went missing. >> that's really the best policy. thank you very much. so mexico is slamming president trump's immigration guidelines as rex tillerson visits. will he be able to smooth things over? how this is going to go. nd? you're not going to make it. do you think you can make it? uhh... make it... every time. nice!
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and robust dialogue between
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our two nations. >> that was white house press secretary sean spicer calling u.s.-mexico relationship phenomenal. this as two cabinet secretaries are in mexico on what's described as a fence mending system. they will meet with the mexican president today. their visit complicated by president trump's immigration enforcement action. joining us is the deputy secretary of state under president obama. >> good morning. >> what are they walking into today? >> this is tough. i would hate to see what it looks like when he calls it bad. this is about as tense as it's been in recent memory and we're not going to mend fences by trying to build a wall and sticking the mexican with the
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bill and we're certainly not continuing to demonize them and sending criminals to the united states over trade and certainly not with this new immigration order which potentially could send millions of people back toward mexico or at least try to do that. >> and by the way, any central american country. according to this new immigration order if you're g t guatama lerks an, i want to make it clear the most imfattic way they do not have to accept measures unilaterally imposed on a government by another government. are you sensing that mexico is starting to speak out against the rhetoric they have been hearing from the trump administration. >> this is stuck in their krau for a long time going back to the campaign. you make an important point. that has been negative.
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more people are going back to mexico over the last 8 or 9 years and there's an issue coming north and they're ironically a number of central americans coming into the united states. we need that cooperation with mexico. we need to do it in a humane way and help central america so it builds robust kmis as crime goes down. >> what happens when secretary of state rex tillerson has this conversation with the president of mexico today. what message does he bring to the president of mexico? >> well i think and expect the secretary of state will bring a more positive message. a desire to work with mexico hopefully saying to the mexicans nothing about you. that is we have to tackle these issues we have together, together. particularly our countries are
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so intertwined. so many people working together. so many mexican americans and culture and challenges even if he says the right things to the mexican and the policy of the united states is the secretary speaking for the president. that's the challenge he faces and he may say one thing and the next day something entirely different. >> i want to ask you about what's going on at the state department. >> there's not been a state department briefing. and it was january 19th in other words during the last waning hours of the obama administration, is this just a different style? >> well, you know, secretary tillerson made a good first
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impression. and so there's a lot of hope coming out and since then it's been radio silence and as you said there hasn't been a state department briefing. and one of the most important vehicles we had for holding ourselves accountable to the media and the world. we need to get back to that. and white house or even abroad. >> but why not? >> i think this really goes to this function we have seen so far at the national security council. it hasn't been operating and hasn't brought people around to the same table to debate the policy and decide the policy and have them speak with one voice about the policy and that means to the state department. you're not sure what to say. my hope is that the new national security adviser will get his arms around it. part of that means having a
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regular order and having a regular process but also making sure that all the parallel structures including this initiative going around foreign policy hah has to stop. it has to be at the heart of it. >> i wanted to touch on what you just brought up. our global affairs correspondent has reported that steve ban nondid it also around vice president pence when it came to the european union. just as mike pence is headed to belgium before. apparently steve bannon had a conversation with the german ambassador. it was described as a combative conversation. spelled out a nationalist world view and cited a wave of

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