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i'm don lemon. we have all the big moments from president trump's first address to congress laying out his agenda on everything from immigration to health care to the economy to keeping americans safe at home and around the world. a different tone from the president, but will americans rally around what we heard earlier tonight? let's get right to the senior political analyst, mark preston, mark settle zer. mark, you first. this is an opportunity for the president to reach out to opponents, put his rocky past behind him. let's listen to a clip first. >> the time for small thinking is over. the time for trivial fights is behind us. we just need the courage to share the dreams that fill our hearts. the bravery to express the hopes that help our souls and the confidence to turn those hopes and those dreams into action. from now on america will be
empowered by our aspirations, not burdened by our fears. >> not the kind of language we're used to hearing from the president. how did he do? >> overall, i think he did well tonight. the bar was certainly low given past speeches. it reminded me of the speech that he gave after he was -- after he'd won the presidency, in these early morning hours, quite frankly, right around this time, a couple hours past this time, where he came across as gracious to hillary clinton, and also very presidential. he sounded very presidential tonight. that one line where he said the time for trivial fights is over is ironic, because he has been the one who has started these trivial fights through his use of social media and twitter. what he was trying to con skra va is the time for trivial fights in congress is over. i don't think i would have used that line, but there was a moment where he talked about
unity and glared over at nancy sploe pelosi, and the camera caught a grimace on her face that was to die for in many ways. he talked about unity, but for or viewers to say there's unity in washington -- >> you do a joint congressional speech, that's a big deal. did he rise to the occasion? >> i believe he did. i think the analogy at election night is apt. it was a giant surprise. in some way this is speech has the same benefit of surprise. what a lot of the reactions were right after, people saying this was presidential. people sounded surprised by that. we heard on this network and on other networks, this was the first day he was truly president by acting so presidential. so by surprising people, by exceeding those low expectations, those who didn't watch live will hear about the surprise of the speech which will be an added benefit for him. and a different tone.
everyone was listening for tone. i want to play clips of tonight's speech. what's known as the american carnage speech at the inauguration. >> this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> that torch is now in our hands, and we will use it to light up the world. i am here tonight to deliver a message of unity and strength, and it is a message deeply delivered from my heart. >> for too long, a small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have bjorn the cost. while they celebrated in our nation's capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across the our land. >> while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in
condemning hate and evil in all of its very ugly forms. >> we will no longer accept politicians who are all talk and no action, constantly complaining but never doing anything about it. >> solving these and so many other pressing problems will require us to work past the differences of party. it will require us to tap into the american spirit that has overcome every challenge throughout our long and storied history. >> david, how did the speeches compare? >> well, i think what's interesting to me as a writer, the first speech, the american carnage speech, the language is much more original. this speech many of the more optimistic passages that people have pointed to and i think the improvement in tone that many people have noticed, that said the language was very generic.
it could have from a president bot. the inauguration had a world view. it wasn't particularly popular, but it was a world view. i thought it was an interesting, almost a tradeoff of a vision where it was unique and unique to trump even if people didn't like it. in exchange, he sounded like a typical politician tonight. >> you could argue five or six different people wrote parts of tonight's speech. the way it sounded you could hear from steve bannon, some ivanka trump, some reince priebus, jared kushner. you could hear all their voices versus the inauguration speech which seemed driven by steven b bannon's view. >> to his point, many people criticized him for the american carnage speech. but it was much more original, i think, to who donald trump is or who he has portrayed himself to be over the course of this
campaign, and to david's point, and that was my assessment earlier. this did not sound like donald trump. i mean, it sounded more presidential. he said the language to him was a little more generic. >> i think it's okay that it was a -- >> teleprompter trump versus twitter trump. >> right. and i think it's okay. i think it's okay to be to have a generic presidential type speech. this is the type of atmosphere or setting you'll see that in. >> that's what people wanted from him. >> that's what people wanted. that's what republicans wanted. for him to do anything else would have hard for him. >> the nation and global leaders do too. we talked about dog whistles last hour. matt lewis said he talked a lot about god or mentioned a couple of times could have been a dog whistle to christian conservatives. even though he's not superspiritual, he at least referenced it a couple times.
this speech was very nationalist. and there was a dhog whistle. if you look at certain phrases and how he started the speech and kind of how he ended the speech was a dog whistle to those supporters who helped him get there. >> and when he said also nationalists because he said %-p. >> a lot of america first. >> my job is to represent the -- not to represent the world. my job is to represent the united states. and he also talked also at the top about defending -- we defended the borders of other nations. but we weren't protecting our own borders which, again, is something that the nationalist movement is very much in line with. and also he talked about spending money overseas, foreign aide. that's used as a diplomatic tool to prevent terrorism. >> that's not uncommon to put messages in the speech that are
a little more subtle to your core, your base. >> we've seen a shift. when donald trump took office, he and steve bannon believed that this proud nationalism leading with that vision was going to unite the country behind this sort of economic nationalism, whatever you want to call it. clearly that did not work. this was a false start over the first 30 days. so now they're saying let's take the same policies. let's repackage them to make them sound a little more conventional. but try to send some messages as you pointed out, some dog whistles to the base that says we haven't forgotten about this stuff. we're talking about it in a bit of a different way. i think compared to what we've seen so far, that looks like a success. one other thing i should mention in terms of the nationalism is bringing families of people who were killed by undocumented immigrants. the number of people -- that was a particularly striking
nationalist moment, and who you invite to these speeches is a big deal. that was not something we would have ever seen, and frankly, i think both parties would be a little bit scared about that. there's not that far before you start to imagine bringing families who have lost a loved one and the killer happened to be of any number of minorities to a speech like that. so that was another piece that looked more like american carnage in a speech that was otherwise a little more toward the american spirit. >> brian, i want to get your assessment. you're the media correspondent. i'm always surprised when people criticize you about talking act the media. that's what your show is about. is the quest for donald trump to stay off social media? >> not to announce a new executive order and trying to push forward the travel ban on wednesday. that's an attempt to stay on message. we're going to see mike pence on a lot of television shows and radio shows on wednesday trying to reiterate what trump said.
so there's going to be an attempt to stay on message, but only one person can take trump off message. that's the president himself on twitter. i sense this fear that the president is going to pick up his cell phone and send everyone off on a curveball. it's an unusual dynamic we experience here. >> thank you. i appreciate it. fascinating conversation. when we come back, you heard from president trump said to congress and the nation. we'll have our cnn reality check on the speech next. energy is amazing. how we use it is only limited by our imagination.
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out of the labor force. what are the facts? the fact is, it's actually 95. million americans who are not counted in labor force today, but let's go to the numbers a little bit deeper. the reasons why they are out of that labor force. 44 .1 million of them, nearly half, they're retired, no longer working. 15 .4 million are disabled. 12.9 million people taking care of a family member, and 15 .5 million in school or in job training. as you can see, you see a significant percentage, the vast majority not in the labor force not there for a reason. it's misleading. the other claims on food stamps. he said over 43 million americans are on food stamps. we look at the numbers. that's correct. regarding poverty, 4 3 million people now living in poverty
today. that's also true, but we should note that that number is down a bit. it's declined as has the food stamp number. we still rate the claim true, but we should also note the context both the food stamp and poverty numbers are decreasing in the last couple of years. all right. jim, thank you. mark preston is back with me, and we're joined by steven moore who was a former senior economic adviser who the trump campaign. it's good to have you all on. good morning to you both. steve, i want to pick up with the obama care bit of this. the president didn't say how he'd pay for the tax incentives. are conservatives likely to pack that? >> how they'll pay for it? >> yeah. >> hopefully if we can get a good obama care repeal through, it will save money substantially. obama care is something over the
next decade that's going to cost well over a trillion dollars. i see it as something blowing a big hole in the budget. the problem for the republicans right now is that they have so many different plans out there that there's a lot of confusion among people in the health care industry about what exactly is the plan, and what are we going to be operating under this time next year? but i have to get this off my chest. look, i don't think that those were misleading statistics that donald trump used tonight. that 94 million people outside of the labor force, look, we've had -- because jobs were not plentiful, more people staying at home taking care of a parent. more people in job training programs. you have more people that have simply become so discouraged they don't even say they're looking for a job anymore. when i was traveling around the country during the campaign, and you would tell people the media says that the unemployment rate is only 5%, people in a lot of states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, ohio would laugh and
say what are you talking about? they would say it's double that. there's a lot of ways to look at the unemployment numbers, but most americans don't believe we have a healthy labor market. >> i think that what most fact checkers and reality checkers are saying is it's misleading. there's roughly the number 94 million americans, roughly the number of americans older than 15 that don't have jobs. it includes college, stay at home parents and millions of retired people. the number of americans who would like to work but can't find jobs is much smaller. the bureau of labor and statistics estimates that 7.6 million people were unemployed in january. >> so many people -- the way they do those surveys is they ask are you looking for a job. and the point that we found, and this has been the problem with the american economy for the last seven or eight years. people are not looking for a
job. you ask them why, and they can't find the job they want. look, there's no question we've seen an improvement in the labor market over the last couple of years. that's undeniable, but i still think when you tell people the unemployment rate is so low, people don't buy it. if you want a job at walmart or burger king, you can find a job, but the good paying jobs are not out there. on the issue about food stamps, it is true food stamp numbers have come down, but i've looked at the numbers. what hasn't happened is there's not a big decline in food stamps as the economy recovered. a lot of the rules about eligibility were made for lenient under barack obama so people could stay on food stamps for a longer period of time. >> i wish we had our reality check folks so we could get to them. >> i had to get that off my chest. >> they explain the number of
people living in poverty. the number is correct. according to the department, 43.3 million people use food stamps, but as for the poverty rate, the number is trending down. mark, the president is also promising a massive tax cut. let's listen to what he said. >> right now american companies are taxed at one of the highest rates anywhere in the world. my economic team is developing historic tax reform that will reduce the tax rate on our companies so they can compete and thrive anywhere and with anyone. it will be a big, big cut. at the same time we will provide massive tax relief for the middle class. we must create a level playing field for american companies and our workers.
>> that is on top of $54 billion of budget increase for the military, a trillion dollar infrastructure plan and of course, the wall. republicans are applauding like mad there, mark preston. what happened to the fiscal hawks? >> it's interesting. it will be interesting to hear what people say about this. donald trump up to this point has been able to govern through executive order. he doesn't have tro go through congress to get things done. specifically, let's take out one of the things you talked about. take out the infrastructure element. $1 trillion through public and private investments. republicans want to rebuild the roads and the infrastructure, however, they understand that that is a huge price to pay, and what is going to happen? what is donald trump going to do when he realizes he can't get republicans support to get a trillion dollars through. and also, quite frankly, everything else that he is trying to do at a time when this speech, he doesn't even talk
about entitlements. when we're talking about arguably which is the biggest problem right now, national security threat to the united states, some would say j is the economy, and the fact that we have a $20 trillion debt right now. >> to mark's point, is congress going to go along with this? >> it's a great 64 billion question. and mark is right. that is hardly a conventional republican position. to be talking about spending a trillion dollars more. and by the way, we spend a trillion dollars in infrastructure every year. i cringed when he said that. it's not the first time he's said it. it's an area where donald trump is redefining the republican party. whether republicans in congress will go for that kind of spending, i don't think. one footnote. he said public and private. there's a lot of private sector projects that could be funded in
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the president delivering an important address to a joint session of congress. how do americans feel about what they heard tonight? i want to bring in tom foreman. >> we had about 39,000 people out there with their pads and phones, whatever, jumping in casting about 15 million votes moment to moment, the line moves up if they like it. it moves down if they don't. democrats in blue. independents in purple. republicans in red, and look at how the lines behaved when he
brought up his signature issue, the thing that got him into the race, the border wall. >> for that reason, we will soon begin the construction of a great, great wall along our southern border. >> this is the number one thing that propelled him into the race, and democrats don't like it. independents don't like it, but republicans went soft on that too in the views audience. people not too done on that. there were other areas where you could really see the gap between the democrats and the republicans. no more so than when he talked about the superior court. conservative justice passed away antonin scalia. democrats thought barack obama would fill the see. the republicans blocked it. and now president trump has his ideas. >> to fill his seat we have chosen neal gorsuch.
he has deep devotion to the law. he was confirmed unanimously by the court of appeals, and i am asking the senate to swiftly approve his nomination. >> the democrats don't like it. republicans are thrilled by the idea. there were some areas in which there was agreement among the parties. everyone seemed to move to the positive zone substantially. one is when he talked about the idea of new bridges and highways and roads, more infrastructure. >> the time has come for a new program of national rebuilding. >> now, whether they like the new facilities or like the jobs they represent, we don't know. but we know that brought everyone together up near the top, and if the white house wants to look for areas of possible bipartisan cooperation, all they'd have to do is go through here and count the
places where the lines went up and joined together in the positive zone, and i'll tell you, it wouldn't take long because there weren't many of them. >> all right. thank you so much. i appreciate that. when we come back, president trump began his speech tonight condemning the recent wave of anti semitism. will it help him unite a divided country? sorry, just getting a quote on motorcycle insurance from progressive. yeah? yeah, they have safe rider discounts, and with total loss coverage, i get a new bike if mine's totaled. but how's their customer service? great. 24/7. just like here. meat loaf! [dings bell] just like here. anybody got a pack... that needs leadin'? serving all your motorcycle insurance needs.
it's one of the most iconic moments for any president. the introduction of the president of the united states inside the house chamber. let's listen to it. >> mr. speaker, the president of the united states. [ applause ] >> let's discuss now. the president's speech with mark preston and jen salk can i and
ana navarro, kiersten powers, kayleigh mcenany, and mr. powers. it's a great moment. kiersten, tonight president trump talked about how the country changed with his election. take a listen. >> we've defended the borders of other nations. while leaving our own borders wide open for anyone to cross and for drugs to pour in at a now unprecedented rate. and we've spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas while our infrastructure at home has so badly crumbled. then in 2016 the earth shifted beneath our feet. the rebellion started as a quiet protest, but then the quiet voices became a loud chorus as
thousands of citizens now spoke out together from cities small and large all across our country. finally the chorus became an earthquake, and the people turned out by the tens of millions, and they were all united by one very simple but crucial demand. that america must put its own citizens first, because only then can we truly make america great again. >> what do you think of the language, kiersten? >> i'm not sure chorus can turn into an earthquake. that's my only quibble with it, but i think he was basically talking about the sort of movement that led to his election, and pretty accurately so, i think it was unexpected. it was fairly quiet in the beginning and people didn't really see it coming. and it was -- i guess this was his more presidential version of
talking about how well he did in the polls, and what he normally does. >> yeah. he's saying the chorus of people was a rumble. the rumble was so big. i get it. >> i mean, it was sort of a political earthquake. that's probably a fair thing to say. >> and republicans in the chamber ate it up. >> they did. i think they were happy he didn't stumble, and there was no incendiary rhetoric, but i think we have to look at the setting. he was in the house of representatives delivering a speech to the nation with congress as the audience. i mean, i think that's the symbolism in and of itself, i think is going to, you would hope at least, keep the rhetoric down. let's not forget he is going now to florida. he's going to your state on friday, and he'll give another speech. we'll see what he does during that speech. >> but the inaugural was another big occasion. you might have expected him at that inaugural to deliver a
likewise serious eloquent speech, and that inaugural was incredibly different. >> but when you're in the house chamber, that's a little more reserved. >> yes. you would think it would be on the same level, but he was also looking out at millions upon millions of people in his view, or in his eyes, but they were all the supporters out there. i think that kind of played into it. >> this is a guy who reads press and watches tv like an addict. it means he heard the criticism and read it of the speech that he gave and today he went out and tried to give a different type of speech. >> i'm actually wondering in seriousness if he is learning. as kayleigh was saying earlier, he went on tv today and said he gave himself a c plus for messaging, and the second thing they asked him how to fix it. he said we'll see. maybe i can start that process. >> we'll know if he's learning
when we know if what he says today turns into action. he said this is not time for small thinking or trivial fights. this is coming from a guy who has fought with a department store, what a broadway musical, with a tv show. with hollywood actors. with -- you know, newscasters. with news channels. let us see. >> it's worth saying. it was interesting about him giving himself a c plus, but he also blamed the obama administration for the leaks. they are no longer in power, so the leaks he says is because of the previous administration. >> i think that sometimes we get caught up in analyzing a speech from a critical commentary stand point. at the end of the day when voters go to the polls, it's going to be what materialized in their life. it was a fascinating poll out that said 30 % of the voters are curious about trump. they don't like or dislike him
him. they're curious. what will sway them is their conditions. voters care about the economic conditions and realities in their life. >> that's what we do, kayleigh. >> okay. i don't mean to demean -- >> the thing for him is learning that that's what we do. we're here to be critical. it doesn't mean we don't like him. we're critical of every speech. we go over every line. >> but there has a particular significance. >> it's not personal. >> you only get one chance to make a first impression, and this is his first impression that he's making. >> i think he did pretty well. >> we'll be talking about the tone for probably 24 hours or as long as he -- >> i don't know about you, but tomorrow i'm going back to russia, investigate russia. >> exactly. >> if you're a football analyst and you're watching the game and the red skins threw five interceptions, you get to say they play horrible, and someone else says it's one game out of 16. >> that's my point. i listened to it.
i had a different take on it. it doesn't mean i'm anti-speech. i thought he did a good job. that's just my assessment. >> some voters also have a different take. i think a lot of people are befuddled when everyone says he denounced anti semitism because he said i denounce long simmering racism. they saw it as a denunciation. >> play this and we'll talk about it. >> recent threats targeting jewish community centers and vandalism of jewish cemeteries as well as last week's shooting in kansas city remind us that while we may be a nation divided on policies, we are a country that stands united in condemning hate and evil in all of its very ugly forms. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. i cut you off. >> look, that was a beautiful
denunciation of hatred. it was a unifying message. but for people to come out and say he finally denounced it, no, the first time he was asked the fe, if you read the transcript, he said i denounce long simmering racism. maybe it wasn't poetic like tonight. a lot of trump voters look at that and say he did denounce it, but he wasn't given that fair critique. >> i think that was the right thing to say at the beginning of the speech. a lot of people felt that he waited too long to strongly denounce it proactively. i don't think we need to spend a lot of time litigating that. one of my take aways was that there were specific areas where he has long said he wanted to focus on. whether it was repealing obama care or tax reform. he didn't give anymore specifics. a lot of republicans coming out of the speech are all saying they heard him endorse their
policies. part of your objective is to give a road map. i don't think he accomplished that. that was a misstep. >> on this anti semitic acts, it's a horrible thing that's happening in this country right now. tombstones are being toppled. this is not an isolated event. >> let me give -- according to the jewish community center that have been at least 100 bomb states in 33 states since january. >> there was one in miami a couple days ago. friends of mine had children there and were in a panic. i think today i hope he realizes the power of this bully pulpit. that he realizes when he uses it strongly, it may have an effect, and that he keeps on doing it. because what is happening in this country is horrible, and we must all stand up and denounce it with all our strength. >> mark, to anna's point, there's a tendency, there appears to be, with him or maybe
this administration to take it personally. anna is saying there is to be bigger and realize that the office and the bully pulpit can make a difference, can change policy and people's minds. can maybe help people get caught, can stop the anti semitism in some way curb it around the country. that's what one must realize instead of why are you picking me. >> to follow the thread, i'll use a sports analogy. >> oh, god. >> i'll go with basketball. there are layups in politics, and this is a layup. it's ease story go out there, and it's the right thing to do, and it's the smart thing to do. and he should do it. but it's a layup. it's easy to do. and i think that he is uniquely positioned as somebody who was a democrat, became a republican. is not necessarily beholden to the republican party to actually be transformative in some ways. if he was as innocent as able to take what he did tonight and get half of what he said done, it
would be an astounding success. >> did you find him sounding like, when you said he was a democrat and became a republican, he sounded like a democrat in some parts of his speech tonight. >> i think any president coming in and giving a joint session speech would have said a lot of similar lines. and a lot of that is because those -- that's a typical speech. it was pretty traditional. >> you think? >> i don't know a lot of republicans who would come out with that infrastructure bill idea. frankly, it's kind of amazing that you have republicans cheering for this person when president obama had wanted to do infrastructure spending that they wouldn't support, and the same thing with paid family leave. that's not a typical republican thing to do. i think there are things he's doing that are not typical of republicans. >> is it because sometimes there is sort of this division between trump supporters and traditional republicans. is that a concern that he talked about those things that
traditionally a republican wouldn't talk about? it may have played well with some folks? >> no. i believe it was the infrastructure line. you saw paul ryan clap for that. for one trillion dollar infrastructure plan. paul ryan was clapping. you would never see a conservative republican -- >> steven moore was like i cringed, how is he getting this money? >> why do they want infrastructure spending now? >> he said infrastructure viability. funding aavailability. i think it's not just congress giving money. he's going to raise money in creative ways. >> it's because obama is a democrat. come on. >> yeah. >> and it works both ways. we'll be right back.
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very problematic sort of story line, we disagree about it a lot, because while it's a tragedy and we all feel for those families when we see them, the fact of the matter is, most undocumented immigrants are law-abiding people, they are not killing americans in some disproportionate number. to showcase them in this manner suggests that they are. >> the crime rate is actually lower -- >> yeah. so it's very problematic and it's fear mongering and kind of setting these people up sort of as dangerous to americans when they're not. >> i agree with what you said. i would say, though, that there are policies like these sanctuary cities where you've had the case of people who have been deported multiple times and are then being given safe-haven in a city and then commit these acts. and so i think that's a legitimate political point. >> we're talking about a fraction of a percent. i mean, truly, this is -- it's
almost like saying a blonde person, you know, was a drunk driver and killed somebody, so if we didn't let blonde people into the country, then that person would be alive. i mean it just isn't -- >> but all of the sort of the -- [ all speak at once ] >> it's such a small percentage of people, it doesn't even make sense. >> what i find really interesting about the entire immigration segment, so today he had an off-the-record with some news anchors, including in hispanic tv anchors, and it seemed that he is going to -- >> daca? >> -- give the daca gives a reprieve. and might look at a compromise to legalization for many of the undocumented. frankly a program that looks a lot like a rubio or bush would have advocated. and yeah, he goes out there at night and it's all about criminal aliens, criminal
aliens, criminal aliens. so i wonder if he's trying to give himself some wiggle room with his base. i wonder if this is part of the art of the deal. i will say as an immigrant myself, i wish he would invite one immigrant that's made a contribution to this country and is making it better. >> you could go. >> i heard your invitation got lost in the mail. [ laughter ] >> the one thing he did say is that families of people killed by undocumented immigrants have been ignored by the media and any reality check will tell you they have been covered. the people mentioned by trump in his speech received widespread coverage on news and television. widely covered by the los angeles times and local television stations as well. >> but they're not showcased the way that good hard-working
immigrants are, and i think trump said it so eloquently tonight when he said it, how is compassionate when we allow drugs to flow over our border, it's not just americans who have died at the hands of immigrants, it's also drugs, heroin overdoses and those drugs have fled across our border, because building a wall is deemed uncompassionate. but we don't think of compassion when we think of americans who have died at the hands of heroin. >> we shouldn't conflate drug dealers and undocumented immigrants. >> let me read this, and i'll let you respond. [ all speak at once ] >> he said we're removing, gang members, drug dealers and criminals. not a big change from the obama administration. making serious criminals a primary focus of the deportation efforts. president trump has called for all undocumented immigrants to be deported. that could mean a higher share
of non-violent offenders among those who are deported. immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than people born in the united states. >> president obama was already targeting the criminals who needed to be deported. so when you bring up people who have been deported and sneaks back into the country, they're already targeted for deportation. >> the sanctuary cities, that's a legitimate public policy difference, rather than targeting, making it an anti-immigrant thing. it's a public policy debate. >> guess what, that's the end. everybody say happy birthday. >> happy birthday. >> thank you. i'm 25 again. how do i pull that off? that's it for us tonight. >> you're pulling it off beautifully. >> see you back here tonight. cnn's live coverage continues in a moment with john vause and isha sesay in los angeles.
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