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charity. both books could be released in 2018. $65 million. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern "the situation room." for our international viewers, amanpour is next. for those here, brianna keilar starts right now. hi, there. i'm brianna keilar in for brooke baldw baldwin. one day after president trump's best previewed speech ever, the market is riding high and republicans are riding high. one question is on the nation's mind. was it a performance or a true pivot. even some democrats praised his address and why wouldn't they, some observers noted when some of his policies were democratic. all are likely to lead to some epic showdowns on capitol hill.
>> i believe that real and possible immigration reform is possible. if we're guidinged by the well being of american citizens, then e believe republicans and democrats can work together to achieve an outcome that has eluded our country for decades. to launch our national rebuilding i will be asking congress to lay prove legislation that produces a $1 trillion investment in infrastructure of the united states financed through both public and private capital creating millions of new jobs. first we should ensure that americans with pre-existing conditions have access to coverage and that we have a stable transition for americans currently enrolled in the health care exchanges. secondly, we should help americans purchase their own
coverage through the use of tax credits and expanded health savings accounts. >> joining me now is senior white house correspondent jell zefny. and, jeff, we should tell the public president trump is having lunch with republican leaders. they're meeting up with him. how should they be responding to him and also about news of his policy proposals? >> well, brianna, president trump is sitting down with them. i can tell you the central question hanging over washington, certainly hanging over capitol hill and the white house here is how will he pay for all of these plans. you have a fiscal conservatives wondering, the infrastructure bill in particular, a trillion dollars. some of it is public money, some is private money. before they do, that there's health reform, tax reform. right now the white house is
meeting with leadership. throughout the day i'm told there will be phone calls as well as with the legislative staff here. the question is how does one enact all of this. how to they keep the republican parties together and get the democrats on board? it's a tough, tough, up the sell. no question some are optimistic and then the president's speech was the best he's ever had and now one says the tough work begins. >> we're starting to see that. jeff zeleny at the white house for us. thank you so much. as president trump rallies behind a plan to repeal obamacare house and senate republicans plan to meet behind closed doors in a few hours and their goal is this, to try to get on the same page as they work to overturn president ob a
obama's health care plan. what are they -- what are they telling you? what do we expect to come out of this, manu? >> well, there's going to be more discussion. it's unlikely they're going to be able to reach consensus today because there's one major element of this plan that's causing a lot of concern for them. that is to give refundable tax credited to give health insurance. some believe it's another entitlement program and they're threatening to vote against it. i spoke with one of those conservatives, james lankford of oklahoma and he has this concern. >> i would do whatever we do in this area. we can't do it with howl the structure is done. >> could you support something that has those tax credits? >> i haven't seen how it works
because that doesn't make a difference in how it works. >> noncommital from senator lake ford but others have come out and said it. others, two conservative wing of the conference, they have to make decisions very quickly u. they want to have the photos in march. there's no consensus yet. there's no yes whether they have the votes to pass it out of the chambers. white house will have to do a conservative sales pitch. >> can i ask? yesterday we heard coming out of the white house from a senior official. there was a comprehensive immigration plan that donald trump was going to get behind. it sounds like there's some skepticism because there's been
talk of it. you know some republicans loathe that idea. >> that's right and trump did not mention that, whether he would be open to that legal status, something he did quote in a meeting with journalists yesterday. and a lot of republicans around sure. there is that skepticism. chuck grassley told me we can't even talk about giving legal status until we secure the border first. pushback from his own party. >> manu, stand by us on the hill. we're going back to the white house. we have breaking news that we're learning about the travel ban. catch us up. it's a big development. >> it is. it's supposed to be signed h afternoon. one of the reasons is three top advisers to the president via defense sayre, the national security adviser, as well as the
secretary of homeland security are asking for specific changes to be made to the seven countries. these are majority muslim countries that have discussed the and they're concerned about the lineup of some of the countries specifically because of military interprays. they believe iraq should not be on this list of country of course, it was included many the early list a few weeks ago. reason it was not signed this afternoon is simply they wanted to let the speech play out, but there are also still some final considerations that need to be made on this. it is not yet all completed and perhaps that is because of the objections from three top advisers on the country of iraq. brianna. >> on the issue of iraq, one of the critics who said why is iraq
on this list would make the point that the u.s. has had such a big foot print for years, that they're able to vet people, they're familiar with them. unlike with syria where there's been little u.s. involvement and really gets to know people on the ground. that was the case, right? that i rauks. >> sure, indeed. we're talking about a 15-year military presence there, and, again, a lot of the people affected by this are trying to come over to the u.s., worked for the military in some capacity as interpreters or over people. you're absolutely right. extreme vetting already going on iraq. we'll see what the outcome is, brianna. >> you said three top officials,
is that right, jeff? >> it is indeed. the secretary of defense james mattis as well as john kelly and h.r. mcmaster. we're told all of them are making the move. >> all right. jeff zeleny, thanks for breaking news. the lead editor national radio and the national political correspondent for the "washington post." that's what we're hearing, is that there may be a delay because don't steal the thunder of a speech that is getting good reviews but also when they're getting this, there are those from the department of defense and the national security adviser about having iraq on this list. what's your reaction to this and
certainly their influence on this? >> i think what we're seeing, you know, president trump is finally getting a full cab nets. they are the voices of experience and the perspectivings frommed you side the white house. as we listen to these kind os debates it underscores it. strength of speech last night was primarily about tone. there were a lot of issues ahead that it did not provide a lot of details on the president's provision for handling them. not only this record on the travel ban but the report before it on health care. >> domenico, like people said.
they are to be commended on the tone and there is not a lot of details. the question is even on tone -- maybe it's too harld d to tell. is the a one-time thing. >> you should stop talking about pivot. >> you're right. >> remember before the election he said, stay cool, donald, you know, stay nice, becalm. so the past is usually a pretty good predict irand i think they nighted too dorn they needed to give a speech to him to feel
like they could stay within sop normal lanes. that was reassured for them and a lot of trump supporters. every time we go out in the country and we talk too folks about trump and we ask his supporters about what do you think about trump and how he con tuktds himself, they always come back to, well, i wish he would stop with the twitter fighting. one thing he spoke out against anti-sim tichl chld many people in his corner said they needed him to do this is what they have counting on him to to.
let's pack. vandalism of jewish sem tiering as well as that. we're a country that standings united in don kolble hate and the policy in all of is its ugly forms. >> that that was that. you look at it. he didn't really denounce that. not rm i'm so glak. h was very sew sip russ, but does this redeem this list of things that he has done in the past. >> i think it certainly was the most sure-footed message he has given on this erb, but it came
just hours after he made statements about the very same episodes of vandalism where he said this had been done to main somebody look bad. the implication being that it was one of these false flag ones. he did that even in the hour leading up to this speech. so as dominica said, it's hard to tell people i will make your head spin. >> maybe it is a pirchtd thing. thank you so much to both of you. next, the pentagon made greenlight tan rohr rating.
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cnn is learning that the white house is considering giving more authority to the pentagon like last month's raid in yemen that cost the life of a navy s.e.a.l. and this would mean that president trump would not have to give the okay first, but a senior defense festival insists this does not mean that the president would not be believed. joining me now is kimberly don'ter, cnn global affairs national list and senior security correspondent at "the daily beast" and lieutenant colonel rick francona. kimberly, you first reported on this, so tell us what u.s. officials are telling you. >> this is in service of
stepping up the fight against isis. the idea would be instead of having to g all the way to the oval office to get approval for sensitive raids in places like somalia or yemen, that for a certain target set like isis fighters who have already been identified that secretary defense mattis or the three-star general who runs the joint operations command would be able to say, we see the person we've been hunting, he's popped up in a different location in a place we don't have combat operations but we can go after him and let the white house know we're doing this because this has all been preapproved. >> colonel, and kimberly explains this well in her piece, if you're talking about places like afghanistan, there is some autonomy because the u.s. is involved in a campaign there. like you said, somalia, yemen, it's a different story and there has been a case made by generals who have been frustrated by
feeling slowed down by this process. >> right. i think the key is preapproved raids. t if the whoigs has signed off on that particular target set, it would make sense you would push down on the execution order as low as you can. at the same time you have to maintain some control over it. the president can maintain some authority but he still bears responsibilities. he's going to have to take control of it. i think that will mainly rest with the national security adviser but i really think they need to keep real tight control over anything that is not in that set of countries which is operating or we have permission to operate. if you're going to do the other countries, you really need to get the president's approval. >> i want to play something donald trump said to fox news. this is where the responsibility lies in the raid in yemen that
killed navy s.e.a.l. ryan owens. >> this was a mission that started before i got here. this was something that was, you know, just -- they wanted to do and they came to see me. they explained what they wanted to do, the generals, who are very well respected. my generals are the most respected that we've had in many decades, i believe, and they lost ryan. >> so he seems to be, i think, partially explaining it but also shifting some of the responsibility there. is this a fear among the generals that while they may want control, that if donald trump isn't making final call, they're more accountable or does this come down to he's president, he's response snbl. >> he's president and he's responsible and he authorized that mission. you can't come back and blame donald trump because the mission failed. these are very, very risky operations. some are going to work. some are not. unfortunately we lost a navy s.e.a.l. and we had other
injuries as well. they got into a fire fight they were not expecting. these things happen. and i think we have to accept that when we conduct these special operations by their very nature. they're just inherently risky. >> kimberly, how are military officials weighing this wanting to speed up the process but also as rick said needing for the president to really be involved here? >> well, there's a debate going on between the national security council, the pentagon, other agencies that are involved in the counterterrorism fight asking how much authority do we need to act rapidly. is it just maybe are they going to limit this to the high-value target list? that's a list of people that all of the agencies have already weighed in on, made their case, and put on a capture/kill list. is it going to start with matusz, go down to the lower level of generals? that's being de-batesed.
they haven't seen the paper with the details on this yet. they just know this white house has more confidence in the military doing its job and being left alone to do its job and has asked to see a way to speed things up without them having to be as involved at every step of the process. >> all right. kim dozier, thank you so much. lieutenant colonel rick francona. thank yos so much for talking about this with us. next boosting the military budget to infrastructure budget, is congress looking to write czechs they won't cash. my next guest a fiscal conservative congressman, is he ready to open the checkbook? also the story behind this emotional moment when the widow of the navy s.e.a.l. killed in that deadly yemen raid was honored by congress, by the president. the backstory on how this all came together. we're back in a moment. i love how usaa gives me the and the security just like the marines did. at one point, i did change to a different company with car insurance,
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president trump delivered a memorable speech in his first address before congress but the dominating moment wasn't that of a wall or ban but of the emotional tribute that he gave to a grieving widow and mother of three carryn owens. she lost her husband chief petty officer ryan owens in a raid/turned shoot-out in yemen last month, approved by president trump. last night she fought back tears as president trump spoke directly to her loss. >> ryan owens died as he levered, a hero, battling terrorism and secured our nation. [ applause ]
i just spoke to tour great general mattis just now who confirmed that, and i quote, ryan was the part of a highly successful raid that generated large amounts of vital intelligence that will lead to many more victories in the future against our enemy. ryan's legacy is etched into eternity. thank you. [ applause ]
>> and ryan is looking down right now, you know that and he's very happy because i think he just broke a record. . ryan laid down his life for his friends, our country, our freedom, and we will never forget ryan. >> president trump has been praised by many who say that he rightfully took time from his speech to step away from the podium and direct the chamber to honor karin owens' sacrifice, but his critics say he skploided owens, diverting attention from the questions that remain about the raid that resulted in his
death. waujts to bring in mary katharine ham. she's a cnn political commentator, senior writer for the federalist. and, mary katherine, likely did not know you've been mourning your husband jake who died suddenly in december of 2015 and it's with that perspective in mind that yu tweeted last night a defense of karin owens' appearance. i want to talk to you about that, but first i just want to know what you were thinking as you were watching this moment. >> well, i was just rewatching it, and it's really powerful. she's such an inarguably tough woman. it's an honor to watch her, even to go through something so heartbreaking. she does it in such a beautiful way and i actually thought as i was sitting watching it, i thought, i know that black dress and i know that deep breath and i know looking up to the ceiling, and i don't know mrs. owens, but she is a woman who can make her own decisions and
she's a woman who's grappling with, god willing, the worst that life will throw at her and she made the decision to be there. and i didn't like the idea that she is only fit to be a prop, only fit to be exploited. we live in a political town. i'm a political creature. but there are some moments that do go beyond that, even when they are in a political venue. and i think this was one of those moments, and i think we should give it to ourselves as a nation and give it to her because i would imagine having been in a similar situation where i was publicly grieving and had two young children, one that was unborn when my husband passed away, that she went there thinking there's going be a nationally televised tribute to the man i love who is a hero who has children who need to know about hem, and they're going to see this nation give him a standing ovation and they're going to see the president of the united states honor him and
that that was apart from the politics even of the raid itself. it was apart from the politics that moment. that was her moment to give to them. >> there were some people who criticized president trump. there were other people who criticized her. i'm sure you saw some of the response online to this. you said -- and to the point you just made, you said, maybe a widow raising three children knows how important it is to keep his name and memory alive and that this moment is bigger than trump or you. and you also tweeted a bible verse. you tweeted proverbs 31:25. tell us about that. >> that's my family's signature or adopted verse. she's clothed with strength and dignity and lasts without fear of the future and it's something that after jake's death having two daughters i decided is something that would animate the rest of our lives and i wanted
to pass it on to her if at all helpful. you know, in these moments, i do think we get so wrapped up in what each side is saying and what side we're supposed to be on. this was a moment where you can let that go for a second. by the way, it's really important to us in space and for those who send people in battle to recognize these are the actual people who do that and these are the people who pay the price, and the families of the fall about, many of whom i know -- my husband was not military, but i know many of them and gold starr families who are incredibly dignified and know the cost of freedom in a way that many of us will never have to. and to see that is important as a nation because not that many of us are connected though those losses in a real deep way. >> mary katharine ham, thank you so much. and i also just want to say as you talk about how important it is to recognize the contributions of her husband, i would just like to say that your
husband jake brewer widely beloved by friends and family, you talked a lot about that in the days following his death and we want to add that. thank you so much. >> by the way, it was important know that president obama that i often didn't agree with in the past honored him but that moment was apart from my plitt ka cal life and my life and that's as it should be and as it should be for her. >> yeah. there are things beyond politics that are priorities and i think for you going through something like that really crystallizes that in a way you hope most people don't ever learn to understand. thank you very much. >> thank you. prayers for her and her family. ♪
breaking news at cnn, as the trump administration looks to break the executive order known as the travel ban against seven majority muslim countries, there's a consensus of those who that are going to be on the list. according to our reporting, there are a few top officials who do not want iraq to be included. that includes the secretary of state, rex tillerson, tee fence secretary james mattis, and the president's new national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. they've made a request, according to sources, to take iraq off of this list according to diplomatic reasons. we're going to have some more information onning that as we get more information on this
breaking story. some more breaking news that we're following, president trump's new travel ban -- sorry. this is what we were just talking about. it made lists -- may drop iraq from this list. again, james mattis, rex tillerson and director of national security adviser h.r. mcmaster are pushing to have iraq exempt. now we're going to take a look at what president trump addressed last night. he talked about a number of topics to the joint session of congress. let's listen. all right. where are we going? okay. sorry for the confusion. we're going to talk a little bit more about this with our guest michael moore, former u.s. attorney for george's middle
district. michael, you've heard this breaking news. we don't know for sure that iraq is going to come off of the list. there's been an argument by some folks who have said, why is iraq on there because there's been such a big u.s. footprint in the country, that american officials are very familiar with the people who are coming in and out of iraq and this really isn't a danger. so if iraq is yanked from the list, is this going to make it harder for opponents to challenge the ban? >> you know, i don't know that it makes it harder to be challenged but i think it's indicative that it was put together in a sloppy fashion to start with. they made the argument all along. we had to move so fast, that there was no good rollout of the program with the agencies who were tasked with the enforcement of the travel ban, somehow it needed to go quick because we didn't want to put people on notice there would be this open period of time that people could
come into the country and so now they pick out which greens they want to leave on or which groups can be affected by the ban. in the long run it shows they're pace moving to try to get something out. if you watches his speed last night he likes to politic as if he's still campaigning and he governs like he's campaigning. he ticks off things he promises to do and claims he plans to have kept and this is one of those things. he talked the campaign about a muslim ban. i think if you look at it, he's all he's trying to do here. i think the truth is if he went dounlt and built a sandcastle on the bangs of the rio grande, he would claim he had started the wall and really he's trying to move out quickly a subjective order. >> to that point if he were to make certain changes to try to avoid a constitutional challenge, if he were to exclude explicitly green cardholders and
those with existing visas, is that something that makes it more resistant to a challenge? >> i think it probably helps in the challenge, but, again, he argues that he uses the same challenge that obama's admin stlags used. now he's picking and choosing. he's arguing that we had to do it in a fast fashion because there are problems out there. now he's delayed it to try to make it comply with the court challenge that's been laid out in the state of washington. you know, i anticipate it will be very likely that this order will be challenged too a, too, will be interesting to see whether it rescinds or makes the previous order mute for purposes of the court action out on west coast. >> initially you had the president saying he was planning at least to sign this new travel ban. today the white house postponed the signing. in part it appears to avoid really letting his speech last night breathe. it was very well received. so that that clearly seems to be
a move that they want to let resonate in his speech to congress. but does the rollout delay, undercut his argument that this ban is urgent for national security reasons? >> it does. that's what i was saying. you remember with the first rollout, it was so poorly implemented and poorly planned, we had people working at the airports who didn't know how to effectuate the order. they hadn't been trained to put in place the security provisions that the order called for. and so now that he's sort of laid it out. we've had no incidences, thank goodness, we've had no problems with national security events or threats in the past few weeks, i think it does undercut his argument somewhat and i think what it shows is he's trying to follow through on something he talked about from the campaign stuff and i think that probably subjects it to some scrutiny. i think at the same time you'll hear some of the scrutiny about comments that he made while he
was on the campaign trail. he talks specifically about a muslim ban and that probably is how this order will be seen. you know, we're picking and choosing. for crying out loud, he wants to take iraq off the list of people when there are plenty of people in iraq. we obviously thought there was a big enough problem to go to war at some point. now he wants to take it off because there's been pushback. the use of executive power has to withstand boast constitutional scrutiny and pushback from public perception and i don't think he's done a very good job at moving the orders through to with stand that. >> and just to be clear, our reporting that we have here at cn is the defense secretary, the secretary of state, and his new national security adviser do want iraq taken off of that list and we're continuing to follow that order. >> yes. >> michael moore, thank you so much. really appreciate you being with us. >> likely with you, thank you. >> we really do appreciate it. president trump's $1 trillion plan for infrastruct e
$1 trillion, that is not an exaggeration. that is a cost estimate for what the president said he would like to fund major infrastructure improvements across the u.s. >> to launch our national rebuilding, i will be asking congress to approve legislation that produces a $1 trillion investment in infrastructure of the united states financed through both finance and public capital, creating millions of new jobs.
>> but can america afford this? let's pose this question to cnn business correspondent richard quest. is this even feasible, richard? >> oh, it's perfectly feasible, and it's probably desirable. and if you noticed last night when he was talking about the infrastructure spending, it was one of the few parts of the speech that had bipartisan sort of applause and almost standing ovati ovations. so, yes, everybody agrees that the bridges, the tunnels, the roads, the airports, the air terminals, they all need a fortune spending of them and, yes, the money is there. the question is how you leverage it. and what the president said last night which was particularly interesting was this notion of the public/private partnership, how the government puts a certain amount in. the private industry, private enterprise puts the rest in, and there are 1,001 different ways
that you can structure it. it's very much the policy due superi du jour that you have. >> would your expectation be -- even though some of the money would be coming from the private sector, but is your expectation that he's putting out a big number and then he might march back from that a little bit so that it's not actually $1 trillion? >> no, no. and i think you've all got to -- i think we've all got to stop being frightened of these big numbers. the reason i say that, brianna, you're talking about an economy that's $15 trillion, $16 trillion, $17 trillion in size, so if you're going to repair the infrastructure of the united states, you're not going to do it for $1 billion. you know the old saying, $1 billion here, $1 billion there, laguardia, that's a $1 billion
project in its own right. if you're going to do a major bridge, you're going to do it for $1 billion much. when he said $1 trillion plus, i thought it was an eye-watering number, but in an economy, $16 trillion, $17 trillion, that's probably pulleding it in the right perspective. the only problem is you don't find it in the teapot on a mantelpiece. >> you don't, or even in the u.s. in a coffeepot which is more likely. sorry, i had to poke fun of you, richard. i know you're watching the market. the dow is up about 350, 350 points. this is a day after the speech. i see the surge. does he get caret it for it? >> two reasons. first of all, trump bump. absolutely. he gets a lot of credit. secondly bill dudley said in an interview with yours truly here,
said in an interview, the reason for u.s. rates going up have become more compelling. in other words, rates are going up. that tells you that the economy is sound as is donald trump's trillion dollars. look. the market took a breather yesterday. it just took a pause. it literally took a little short breath. and now it's back on again. i was down at the exchange this morning, and the mood is one to push this market higher. >> i love how you describe it as this living breathing entity. >> it is, it is. >> richard quest. >> markets are the mass of people that are making movements. so it is very much a living breathing eating animal. >> richard quest, thank you so much. this is a moment that's gone viral. one moment last night made donald trump presidential. most fellow democrats do not agree with that.
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