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talking about this. but they do, they say, want congress to investigate this. but so far they have not provided any evidence to back up those extraordinary claims. >> it's really fascinating. just what you were just saying, jeff, sean spicer not doing the regular on camera briefing and instead doing it off camera. >> right. >> and maybe more importantly the fact that the president finally puts out and signs the revised travel ban and they allowed in cameras inside. there is only one photo taken by the white house. you know, it just -- it's -- you know, looking at this kind of objectively, you would think that this was something that the president would want to get a lot of publicity on because it is something he says is critical to his agenda and he is actually getting praise from republicans from the way that it was revised. >> right. >> what do you make of it. >> indeed, i mean, this is something that was -- they have been working on it for the last
four or five weeks or so. it was hastily done in the first week of his presidency. of course it was blocked with legal challenges there, but they did outreach and they signed this engo. you can see the will be on eye of the president. he likes signing executive orders. he likes having people into the oval office. well he signed it alone today because i'm told he simply didn't want to be faced with explaining these accusations he made against president obama here. so i think it is, you know, no question, the white house is trying desperately to get back on message this week, on focus in week, on the health care bill, on this travel ban, but there is still this giant cloud hanging over this west wing. and that is caused by the president himself sending out those messages on twitter. >> and i'm sure you have heard the same. i have heard from people who are familiar with the president's thinking, and his behavior, that the fact that he left on friday night, left his senior staff
behind, didn't have anybody minding him early in the morning or mining him in florida kind of left him to his own devices, literally, his twitter device. jeff, thank you so much for your reporting. appreciate that. now on this subject i want to go straight to pamela brown, our justice department correspondent with news regarding james comey. pam? >> reporter: we are learning more dana about the fbi director's reaction to donald trump's tweet over the weekend alleging that the past president wiretapped his phone. our source says he was incredulous about this allegation, the wiretapping allegation. the source says there was a level of simple disbelief when he saw what donald trump had tweeted and the big concern was that this allegation would make the fbi look bad. that's what prompted the director to have staff at the fbi reach out to the department
of justice asking the doj to knock down the allegation. the source says that comey felt that institutionally he had to push back on this because of the magnitude of the allegations that he knew not to be true. over the weekend senior level officials within the fbi reached out to the career personnel at the department of justice to try to clear up the reports that obama wiretapped the phone of donald trump. and a u.s. official saying part of the discussion was for doj to publicly knock down the allegations which so far, dana, that hasn't happened.we are told director comey was aware of these discussions and that he was frustrated and he still is frustrated that that request to have the doj to knock down the story went unanswered over the weekend and still right now. this gives you insight into what's been going on behind the scenes. the source i spoke with said
that the fbi director is still trying to figure out the appropriate mechanism to formally come out and say the allegations are not true. it could be that he eventually does come out and say it is not true. we will have to wait and see. it begs the question, is he concerned at all how the rest is going to react to this. what i'm told by a person familiar with the matter is that a he has no plans to resign as of now, that he knows the possibly exists that there could be a confrontation and that he could be fired by the president but that is not something that he worries about. we should mention that the fbi and the department of justice decline to comment. >> great reporting. just the fact that the frustration that james comey felt that you are reporting about, not only with the president himself and the allegations he made, but also that the justice department, which of course is run by republicans, the trump justice
department, didn't answer. so james comey clearly wanted to get that information out and make it public, because they weren't answering at the justice department. so fascinating pam, thank you so much. i want to unpack all this right now with a panel. joining me now, the author of pistols to press, lessons on communication from an fbi agent and spokesman, jeff lanza who is now retired from the fbi and our own jeff toobin, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. jeff lanza, you heard the reporting. what do you make of comey's reaction? >> well, i think it was an appropriate reaction because there is really only two ways to put a wiretap on one's one here in the united states. that would be through a criminal investigation. the second would be an intelligence investigation and that you would have some sort of indication that someone is operating on behalf of a foreign power or a u.s. citizen is involved in treason or possibly
planning terrorism. outside of that -- in either one of those cases it would be the fbi that would be installing those wiretaps. and comey has come out strongly and appropriately, i think and said hey we didn't do it. he doesn't want people to get the wrong idea. >> jeff, what's going through your head when you hear all of this. the president making an allegation. the fbi director being livid over the weekend when he saw it because he said it's just not true. him trying to get the justice department to deny that it is true. not being able to do that. so he goes public. is your head spinning or is this sort of business as usual in the trump years? >> absolutely not business as usual. this is head spinning stuff. it's crazy you would have this kind of communication and to put doj right in the middle of this communication between director comey on one side and the president on other side. it's going to be interesting to see how exactly they respond. on his part i think he did the right thing.
he doesn't want the public getting the wrong idea that the fbi was there installing wiretaps hamaybe without jurisdiction. >> do you think there is a kernel of truth about this wiretapping or is it just a distraction? >> or a paranoid fantasy. that's another possibility. i don't think there is anything real here. there is a very well established procedure as jeff pointed out for how we get wiretaps in this country. and both of those procedures involve the justice department going to a federal court. either a fisa court or a federal district court and getting authorization. so the very idea that president obama sought this out when there is no evidence for that it just
strikes me as, you know, just something that didn't happen. what makes it even weirder now is that people are saying well it should be investigated anyway because you know some people are saying it. i mean that's not how the law is supposed to work. you are supposed to have a basis for something before you conduct an investigation. >> some people are saying a familiar term from the trump campaign. jeff be tooin, i want to turn to the travel ban. iraq is no longer kurnd. current green card and visa holders of all of these six remaining countries no longer included. there are exceptions for religious minorities, or syrian refugees. do you think that this is -- merely, it's more palatable to republicans who were upset about the first one. more importantly, do you think this will hole up in court? >> i think it has a much better chance of holding up in court. it's obviously the work of serious lawyers. they are aware of the criticisms
from the district court in seattle and the ninth circuit. and they crafted it in a way to try to satisfy those concerns. the overarching program remains that trump during the campaign said i want to ban muslims. it's still up on his website. so the argument that this is just a pretext for a muslim ban is still there. but that is a much tougher argument for any plaintiffs to make at this point because at least in this executive order the administration has spelled out that we picked these six countries because we just can't trust the governmental structures there to identify people who would be dangerous to the united states. that as opposed to any sort of a religious reason, that's going to make it easier to defend in court. >> jeff lanza, your reaction? >> well, i agree totally with what jeff said on that particular issue. i think right now there is this major distraction going on in
terms of this fbi supposed investigation into the russian connection and then of course the claim of the wiretaps which again to me is just -- it's unprecedented in my 20-year history with the fbi i have never seen anything like that or any type of acrimonious relationships like this between doj, the white house and the fbi. >> if i could add one thing ofs' not totally unprecedented. right after the end of the campaign, james comey over the objections of the justice department went public not in the form of a leak but made a statement, extremely j ding to hillary clinton's campaign. he did it twice. so this sort of conflict in a highly political setting is not completely unprecedented. >> jeff lanza, jeffrey toobin, thank you both for your insights. appreciate it. we will talk about more on this new ban and what it entails with our senior diplomatic correspondent michele kosinski who is over at the state.
first of all, when does this take effect. >> ten days from now. there is a bit of buffer there, today plenty of times that raised questions among reporters. if this was so urge eninitially that the first ban had to be rushed out, why is it now less urgent? why is there less of a risk? we did get an answer from a spokesman saying well the element of surprise was taken away after the first one so there wasn't really the same kinds of urgency there for this one. >> michele, do you think that -- i mean it sort of looked as though, the thee at ricks of it with the attorney general, the secretary of state the director of homeland security all there making statements together. that was certainly intended to show if not to say in the executive order it's different this time around. do you get the sense that they are comfortable with the new one
unlike the last one. >> it's hard to say but we know there was induty that went into it. it's kinds of like if they want to be on board with us and they are part of the administration they really have to be on board with us. now with the new language and certain things taken out, they do feel like this at least works for them. i think that word that we always hear in washington, the optics hugely noticeable today. the first travel ban was rolled out in the president's haul of heros with president trump signing it and the second of defense by his side. this time around it's as if to say we can we not only talked to the departments that have to implement, the state department, don't of homeland security, and the attorney general was there, too. they are on board, rolling this out themselves. and then president trump signing it in private. there was just a photo that was
put out in that. they clearly want to say there is unity and input and poem involved in this one much better than the rushed original one. >> most of his team wasn't even in place yet at the time that he signed it michele, thank you. just ahead, former obama administration director jen sacky reacts to the current president accusing her former boss of wire stapping him. from birth sfirkts, to crowd sizes to wiretapping, why donald trump seems to thrive on controversy. kim jong-un launched even more missiles. how will the u.s. respond? that's ahead. your insurance company won't replace the full value of your totaled new car.
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law makers in both parties are challenging president trump to proof his latest unfounded allegation about his predecessor, former president barack obama. they believe the president is trying to deflect issues currently dogging his administration. one of those members is democratic congressman jim hims, who sits on the house intel committee. if you look at that tweet there, he mocked the president with this tweet saying i know this will end up being sticky, but yes, i did the tapping, hashtag maple knot wire. congressman joins me now. that's an elaborate suite tweet. it did the trick. got attention. >> it is a new england thing, dana. >> i get it. i get it. but if true, if or if there is any kernel of truth to this,
since you are on the intelligence committee, you are a member of congress likely you would not choose sarcasm. does that mean that you really think that there is no chance that there is any credibility to this allegation. i think there is no chance to the correlate of the allegation that president obama wiretapped donald trump. the president of the united states doesn't have the power to wire tab ib in. the only kwai to get a wiretap is in a criminal court or the fisa court. they need to give the fbi a warrant to set up those taps. the odd thing about president trump's allegations is that if there is anything here, for example, if there was some sort of wiretap, some sort of listening in on conversations, chances are it was targeting russians. and so therefore if
conversations were picked up in trump tower, the big question, which all these investigations are centering on, which is whether there was communication between the trump organization and the russians. that points us in one direction. otherwise it is just an unhinged president tweeting insanity early in the morning. >> congressman, i just want to follow on one thing that you said. you said it definitely wasn't the president, meaning president obama, who ordered the wiretap. lets assume that is fact. you are not ruling out the notion of the fisa court for the fbi -- that wiretapping going on inside trump tower threw official changs channels during the obama administration? >> there is three ways there could be doshs of the least three ways -- but the three ways that matter here in which there could be a wiretap on trump
tower would be if law enforcement believed there was probable cause there was a crime being committed by someone this trump tower. you might have wiretap. if our intelligence community believed that there was some activity that involved a foreign power or foreign agents there could be a fisa wiretap. that would require not the president of the united states to say hey let's tap donald trump. it would require law enforcement to appear in front of a federal judge, demonstrate probable cause and get authorization for wiretap. >> let's turn to an issue which i don't think the president wants us to talk about, which are the allegations or questions, our investigation your committee, the intelligence committee is looking into as well as the senate as to whether there was any communication or even as far as collusion between russian officials and trump campaign officials. former director of the national intelligence agencies, the former dni james clapper said
yesterday he didn't see any evidence of that when he was still in his position. take a listen. >> this could have unfolded or become available in the time since i left the government. >> at some -- >> but at the time we had no evidence of such collusion. >> congressman, you are on the intelligence committee. have you seen any evidence of collusion? >> i think as you know, dana, the investigation into overall russian hack, which we know happened. we know now that it happened because later on in the election process the russians decide they were going to try to help donald trump -- this investigation has just begun. i was critical of chairmen burr and chairman nunes for going out last week and saying what they think the conclusions may be. we have just begun the process of getting documents, of getting transcripts. what we have is we have a series
of questions. the big one being was there any communication about the hack between the trump organization and the russians or was there collusion? we just don't know. we have of the love suspicious activity. now we have learned there are somewhere between three and six trump associates who during the campaign had contact with the russians and at least two of them subsequently lied about it. michael flynn of course and our attorney general jeff sessions. they misrepresented the nature of those contacts. one of them was fired because of it. the other one has to recuse himself from all activity. the other thing that's intrig intrigui intriguing, this this were completely made up, no discussions with paul man fort or flynn or anybody else, you would think they would went to get this thing closed. bring in the investigators by the truckload, depose all the witnesses, let's move beyond this and get this done. instead we have
misrepresentations, we have lying about the context of the conversations. we have tweets that are designed to take your eye off the ball. those are not the acts of a party that knows they are innocent. >> congressman we are out of time. i have to ask you, you said that you and the intelligence committee have begun to get documents and transcripts. have you gotten the transcripts between the trump officials and the russian officials that you just discussed? >> dana, i can't discuss the specifics of when we have and don't have. this stuff is all highly classified. the important point we will get those documents, we will hopefully get testimony from people like director comey and others. but the key thing to remember is we are in very early days and nobody should be prejudging the conclusion these investigations might yield. >> can't hurt a girl for trying. appreciate it. up next, president trump's evidence-free claims of wiretapping are just the latest in a series of conspiracy
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the white house is doubling down on president trump's baseless accusation against former president obama. president secretary sean spicer says there is quote no question that the obama administration was hyped some type of surveillance of trump's campaign. the president accuses his predecessor of illegally wire p wiretapping trump tower during the campaign and says he wants congress to investigate. again that claim has been unproven. this is just the latest of many conspiracy theories we have
heard from the president and of course former candidate. let's take a listen. >> we also need to keep the ballot box safe from illegal voting. we are going to protect the integrity of the ballot box, and we are going to defend the votes of the american citizen. we had a massive field of people. you saw that. packed. i get up this morning, i turn on one of the networks. and they show an empty field. i said wait a minute. i made a speech. i looked out. the field was -- it looked like a million, million and a half people. >> i'm the one that got him to put up his birth certificate. hillary clinton was unable to get there. i will tell you she tried, you look at her campaign. everybody knows it happened. and i would say that everybody pretty much agrees with me. all i did was point out the fact that on the cover of the national enquirer there was a picture of him and crazy lee harvey oswald having breakfast.
ted never denied that it was his father. >> ted cruz did deny that his father had anything to do with lee harvey oswald or jfk's assassination. let's talk about all of this with our analysts. paul i want to start with you and the op ed that you wrote in the "washington post" talking about normalizing paranoia. what did you mean by that? >> well, there has been something really interesting that's happened over the last couple of months. normally, the people who believe political conspiracy theories are people who are partisans of the opposition party. but president trump's governing style means that he is intentionally using conspiracy theories and misdeeds as a way to perpetuate his own political agenda. and that's mainstreaming things that used to be part of the paranoid fringe in a way we have
frankly almost never seen before in american his three. >> karen, you have been doing reporting on this. and you cared this to a car. what did you mean by that? >> i think yeah, the lead of my story today says that he has turned his presidency onto a road with no guardrails and no center line. look, it's -- trafficking in conspiracy theories is something that donald trump has done for a long time either to build a political base or as we've seen, to change the subject. but now donald trump is the head of the government of the most powerful nation in the world, and when he says these things, he also enlisted, as we heard today w the white house press secretary -- he enlists all the power and all the institutions of that government to either, you know, to back him up on this, to sort of help him further this. and i think this is a completely
different situation than we have seen in the past where it's been either a celebrity. >> can say that again. >> a celebrity throwing these things around or a political candidate. this is -- this is a whole different situation when, again, he is speaking as the commander in chief of the united states of america. >> paul musgrave, you are an academic. have you seen anything in history that even comes close to this? >> well, unopportunifortunately the 19th century a lot of same sorts of hatred and fear that president trump is stirring up used to be directed at immigrant groups like catholics or the chinese and they formed the basis for some of the united states nastiest policies toward minorities. there have been other times during the annexation of texas when britain said that slave
owners were interfering in american politics. we have forgotten those because over the 20th century increases in education and media, all of those made it harder we thought for people to peddle these sorts of intruths. but with trump a lot of what we thought we knew about politics has gone out the window. >> yes,s that a true fact. that is not an alternate fact. it is definitely a lot of things have gone out the window. luckily unlike the 19th century we have technology and a free media like ours, all of ours, where we can try to beat back conspiracy theories as much as possible. thank you both, to both of you. we encourage everybody to read both of your pieces in the "washington post." up next, former obama communications director jen saki will join me live to react to the current president accusing her former boss of wiretapping him. around.
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sources are telling cnn's pamela brawn that fbi director james comey was incredulous after he heard president trump's allegations that former president obama wiretapped his phones. some former intelligence directors are speaking publicly on the matter, denying that intelligence agency wiretapped trump's phones and calling the president baseless -- at least his accusations are baseless and harmful to u.s. security. >> the fbi had advised a court order for surveillance would that be information you would know. >> yes. >> you would be told this, if there was a fisa court order on something like this? >> something like. >> at this point you can't confirm or deny whether that
exists? >> i can deny it. >> there is no fisa court order. >> not to my knowledge. >> the you take anything the president tweeted. the plumbing doesn't work that way. it could not have happened the way he said it, that the president of the united states directed to have surveillance on someone. it hasn't been like that since the 1970s. >> it makes us vulnerable. weakens the united states and makes us vulnerable to our enemies. that's the danger. >> i should also add that the first director of national intelligence john negro pope was on this show an hour ago with a similar reaction. i want to talk about this with jen sacky who served as the communications director under president obama. also with me, mike rogers who was the chairman of the house intelligence committee.
jen, let me start with you, your react to the president's allegation that your former boss wiretapped his phones? >> well, i hadn't had enough coffee yet when the tweets started flying on saturday morning. but i think you look at the comments of everyone from former director of national sbrelgs james clapper to the reports by pamela brown about comey's comments, this is not even how it works. if there is a wiretapping that would go through the deputy of justice. that's not something the president orders, not this president, not trump, not treasures for decades. we are not surprised -- i wouldn't say i was surprised by the attack by president trump. remember, this is the same guy who has been peddling conspiracy theories including about president obama and whether he was born in the united states, for decades. this is something we talked about in the white house but this wasn't on the list. >> you know, yes, that's true, but at least at the beginning during the transition, president trump was then president-elect
trump, was very effusive in his praise for president obama. have you spoken to the former president about these allegations? >> i have not spoken with him, no, about these allegations. i think if you are him and you are sitting -- and i have spoken to a number of people who still work for him. but i would say that this is something that you -- most people should be having a collective eye roll to. there is no basis in them. the problem is that there is a false equivalentsy between the calling for investigations, and it is a confusing storyline right now for a lot of people. >> on that point, mike rogers, do you think this is intentionally confusing, trying to kick up dust so that people don't really know -- they hear about investigatesing and wiretapping, what's going on? >> well, it gets back to what my mother told me, nothing good happens about 3:00 in the morning. maybe he should be sleeping at that point. listen, it's clear that there is no way that the president of the
united states can order legitimately any wiretap. that's just not the way the system works. there is two things that clapper said i think are really important. one if there is no fisa warrant, i found that being and a bold statement as well as him saying there was no collusion with the russians. if you think about all of the discussions over the last months those are two very definitive statements. again, there are still some questions to be answered here as we move forward but it is not helpful for the president of the united states to say that the former president, unless he throws a dossier on the table that shows that he illegally tapped someone's phone. it just doesn't happen that way. it can't work that way. there may have been some -- if you listen to representative hines and you listen to the former director of national intelligence they all leave out -- he called it article three, i think he was talking about title three, which is the criminal application for a warrant. that could have brushed past somebody in the campaign.
and that's the only thing i can think trying to piece all this together. >> if you were still the chair of the intelligence committee would i just blow off the questions from the white house or the requests from the white house to investigate this? >> this would be the quickest part of any investigation, you haul in the fbi director, you haul in the national clandestine service folks and the criminal side of people who go through the process of applying for these warrants. and then you haul in the doj people responsible for the same thing, and you ask the question, i think you would have an answer probably within 30 minutes. this is not something that you can -- this is going to linger on for very long if the investigators are doing their job. >> jen, as somebody who was up until a month and a half ago sat in the white house directing communication strategy, just -- i know you said you are not surprised. but what do you make of what we've seen never mind the last four or five weeks but in the last two or three days?
>> i think they are really at risk of putting their own credibility -- they have put their credibility on the line here. and they continue to chip away at it. and that's not a place you want to be as a spokesperson or as a senior official, and certainly not as the president. and they haven't each had a crisis yet. what is happening now is we are starting to question the public comments of the president of the united states. people who work for him. and we haven't even faced a national crisis or an international crisis. that's not where you want to be if you are a senior member of the white house staff. >> i'm guessing that's not where the current senior staff wants to be, for sure. jen sacky, mike rogers thank you so much for your insights, appreciate it. coming up next, the navy is investigating after explicit photos of female marines were posted on line without their knowledge. details on the male veteran who
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. a disturbing discovery. hundreds of explicit photos of former and current e-mail marines and other service members have been posted online. a defense official tells cnn that members of a private facebook group have been sharing lewd photos of women without their knowledge. i want to bring in cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr. barbara, first of all, you know, have you ever seen anything like this? you have obviously been covering the pentagon for so long and are wired probably more than anybody else there. but also, do you know if they
have been able to identify who is responsible? >> well, a major military investigation now under way, dana. the ncis, naval criminal investigations service, looking into all of this. it was brought to their attention several weeks ago by a former marine who had been online, came across this site and discovered what was in it. he brought it to their attention. so that investigation very quietly begun. they're trying to determine how many people were involved. by all accounts, the photos of the women not suitable to be -- to describe on a news station like cnn. very lewd, very salacious. it is possible some of them were originally taken under consensual circumstances but then shared not with the consent of the women. it is possible some of the photos were taken under stalking
circumstances. >> wow. >> so all of this very much being investigated, all of this subject to disciplinary action. marine corps leadership making very strong statements against it and trying to figure out at this point exactly what it is they may be dealing with. dana. >> barbara, thank you. these women who, you know, are serving this country put themselves in harm's way to be allegedly hurt like this by their fellow servicemen is -- is quite disturbing. barbara, thank you so much for that report. >> sure. backlash erupts after president trump accuses his predecessor of wiretapping his phones without offering proof. what are the republicans on the hill saying about this? i'll ask one next. how's the new project going? check it out. lights.
more on our breaking news. fbi director james comey is said to be incredulous over president trump's claims that former president obama wiretapped his phone. how are republicans reacting? i'm bringing in virginia republican congressman scott taylor, a former navy s.e.a.l. and iraq war veteran. you're also a member of the homeland security committee. point blank, let me ask you, do you think the president has a basis for this allegation? >> well, thank you for having me today. i appreciate it. i am aware of no evidence from the president, if he was wiretapped or not. i think it's a pretty serious
allegation. i know chairman nunez said he'll look into it. i am not aware of any evidence. i'd love to see some, of course. it's a pretty shocking allegation, of course. if the white house has some evidence, if they're able to, in a way that doesn't impinge on classified information they should probably release something or should definitely work with the committees in equation to do congress to do so. >> are you worried about american credibility when a president puts forward an unsubstantiated claim such as this about his predecessor? >> well, again, it is a big claim, of course. and like i said, i think that, you know, the appropriate committees, if they decide it's in their purview to investigate it, they should. i certainly am not aware of any evidence but we'll see how it all plays out. but i think that it's -- like i
said, it's a big claim. and we should take it seriously if the president of the united states is saying that. we should look into it, see if there is anything there or not. if not, i imagine he will be rebuked. >> would you be one to rebuke him if there is no evidence that comes to the fore? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> congressman. let's talk about the travel ban the president signed today, the revised travel ban. >> mm-hmm. >> you agreed with the president at the beginning with taking a pause, but you had a problem with some of his rhetoric at the time. do you support what you have seen today, the revisions, taking iraq out, for example, and making clear that people who have green cards and so forth are excluded from this? >> well, i agree -- i still disagree with the rhetoric that happened before, but i certainly agree with taking a pause. i think it's important to keep in mind -- and yes, you're right, it is important that folks with green cards who are here legally are not
unnecessarily affected, of course. let's look at the six countries. three of them are on the state sponsors of terrorism list. four arguably are failed states. i am happy that iraq has stepped up and is working with the united states to make it more secure. the vetting stronger, of course. i think it is important that we do take a pause. again, this is certainly within the purview of -- and the power of a president on both sides, whether they wanted to reduce it or increase it. >> it's in the power of the president, but really quickly, do you think, as a member of the homeland security committee, it is necessary for the security of this country to put this ban in place? >> i am on the appropriations committee. we oversee dhs, the funding of that. >> thank you for clarifying that. >> i didn't want to take credit for that. but anyways, i do think that -- i do think that it's important for our security.
and i think the people overwhelmingly of the country want that as well too. again, just today the fbi comes out and says that 30% -- 30% -- of their domestic terrorism cases they are investigating are from folks who are refugees. it's important not to label refugees as bad people. that's not why i am here. -- >> i was going to say, congressman, it's time to go. i think the tv gremlins did it for us. thank you to the congressman for joining us. that ends my time here. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thanks, dana. and president trump doesn't like it when the media uses anonymous sources. "the lead" starts right now. president trump tweeting another conspiracy theory that president obama tapped his phones. if we told you that his white house has since produced the evidence to back up that wild claim, well, that would be fake news. satellites trained on north korea after kim jong un fires off