tv Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer CNN March 6, 2017 2:00pm-3:01pm PST
i now turn you over to one mr. wolf blitzer. he is right next-door in "the situation room." thanks for watching. happening now, breaking news. incredulous. a source says fbi director james comey was incredulous at president trump's unfounded claim that former president obama ordered a wiretap of his phones. new information on why he wants the justice department to knock down the president's claim. rollout. president trump quietly takes another try at a travel ban, this time leaving iraq off the list of targeted countries and exempting u.s. green card and visa holders. will the white house face a new legal battle and more protests? i'll speak live to the secretary of homeland security, john kelly. in hiding? after a weekend of extraordinary tweets, this is the first weekday since his inauguration that president trump has not
been seen in public. why is he keeping a low profile? and going ballistic. kim jong un reacts to u.s./south korean military exercises by launching four ballistic missiles into the sea of japan. the white house calls that a very serious threat. what steps will the u.s. take in response? i am wolf blitzer. you are in "the situation room." breaking news. the fbi director is left incredulous over president trump's tweet barrage over the weekend in which he made the unfounded claim that then-president obama ordered his wires tapped in trump tower in new york city. we're getting new information on why the fbi director james comey now wants the justice department to knock down the president's claim. the claim has been denied by an obama spokesman, by the former director of national
intelligence and branded as nonsense by former national security officials. now the president is embroiled in yet another controversy of his own making, seemingly based on conspiracy theories promoted by right wing radio hosts and websites. the white house is doubling down tonight calling for a congressional inquiry with press secretary sean spicer insisting there is, quote, no question that something happened. president trump today issued a new travel ban, call it take two. the first executive order led to protests, chaos at airports and successful court challenges. the new order bans immigration from six muslim-majority nations, leaving iraq off the new list. it also exempt people with vali green cards or visas. i'll speak live with the homeland security secretary john kelly and with democratic
congressman seth moulton of the armed services committee and our analysts and guests are standing by with full coverage of the day's top stories. let's begin with president trump's stunning and baseless claim that president obama tapped his phones. our senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny joins us first. jeff, the president is keeping a low profile since that twitter barrage. >> it's a very low profile indeed compared to the explosive and extraordinary comments he made over the weekend. a white house spokesman tells me the president do the not regret sending out those messages. many republicans do. president trump out of sight today at the white house as a fire storm raged over his unfounded accusation that president obama wiretapped his phones last year. it's the first weekday since taking office mr. trump did not appear before the cameras. leaving his aides to try defending the president's extraordinary weekend attack. >> the president firmly believes that the obama administration
may have tapped into the phones at trump tower. >> is that based on media reports? >> this is something that we should look into. we'd like to know for sure. >> reporter: neither the white house deputy press secretary nor any adviser provided any evidence to back up the president's exclusive claim except to suggest mr. trump has access to more information than they do. >> he is the president of the united states. he has information and intelligence that the rest of us do not. and that's the way it should be for presidents. >> reporter: the latest presidential eruption started saturday morning from florida when the president tweeted this. terrible. just found out that obama had my wires tapped in trump tower just before the victory. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. his tweets didn't stop there, attacking president obama again. this is nixon watergate. bad or sick guy. white house press secretary sean spicer, who held his daily briefing off-camera today, defended the president, but also declined to offer any evidence. >> i think there is no question that something happened.
the question is is it -- is it surveillance, is it a wiretap or whatever. there has been enough reporting that strongly suggests that something occurred. >> reporter: the allegations shook washington and raised the stakes even higher for the russian investigation on capitol hill. a new cnn/orc poll found nearly two-thirds of americans said a special prosecutor should investigate russia allegations. a number that includes most democrats, many independents and even 43% of all republicans. james clapper, the former director of national intelligence was among the federal officials who said no wiretapping took place at trump tower. >> on the part of the national security apparatus i oversaw at dni there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time whether as a candidate or against his campaign. >> reporter: the allegations stem from a story on the conservative site breitbart news
which the president read last week, which is a synopsis of comments by radio host mark levin. >> this is not about president trump's tweeting. this is about the obama administration's spying, and the question isn't whether it's spied. we know they went to the fisa court twice. the question is who did they spy on and the extent of the spying. >> reporter: the white house called for a congressional inquiry into whether president obama abused the law enforcement prior to the election. republican senator marco rubio who appeared in florida with the president on friday, seemed dumbfounded by the allegations on cnn's "state of the union." >> obviously i have no -- i am not sure what it is he is talking about. perhaps the president has information that is not yet available to us or to the public. and if it's true, obviously we're going to find out very quickly. if it isn't, obviously he'll have to explain what he meant by
it. >> reporter: senator rubio is one of the republicans on the intelligence committee, so he will be among those investigating this. the white house demanded this inquiry. it's unclear if the president will accept the findings. we asked white house press secretary sean spicer about this earlier today when he talked to reporters, and he said this. if we have a problem with its conclusions, we'll let it be known. wolf. >> jeff, thank you. jeff zeleny at the white house. now the president's latest attempts at a travel ban. this executive order was signed quietly out of the media spotlight. the secretary of homeland security, john kelly, is here with us in the situation room. we'll talk in a moment. first let's go to our senior washington correspondent michelle kosinski at the pentagon. how is this different than the first ban ploblocked by the cou? >> reporter: the white house removed the most controversial parts of the first travel ban. this doesn't involve seven
countries anymore, it involves six. iraq is now off the list. what suddenly happened between then and now? the trump administration is saying iraq is now working with the u.s. to implement better security measures, though sources tell cnn nothing has changed procedurally though there is better communication over what iraq has already been doing on the security front. also, this new travel ban makes it clear that, if you have a visa, if you have a green card, you are okay to travel to the u.s. there are also certain exceptions that u.s. officials can make. so that really spells that out. on the refugee front, syrian refugees are no longer indefinitely band. and gone is the language that seemed to give preferential treatment to christians. you know, it's interesting, too, when you hear from the administration, this time they're trying to back up the executive order with some data. saying that there are now 300 refugees who is currently in the u.s. who are under investigation
by the fbi for potential terrorist activity. but u.s. officials are refusing to say what countries any of those refugees are from and even whether a single one of them comes from one of these countries in question. here is the attorney general. >> like every nation, the united states has a right to control who enters our country and to keep out those who would do us harm. this executive order seeks to protect the american people as well as lawful immigrants by putting in place an enhanced screening and vetting process for visitors from six countries. >> reporter: this is such a different rollout too. the first executive order, remember, it was in the pentagon's hall of heroes. it was president trump in this big ceremony with the secretary of defense right next to him. well, this time the white house had him sign this in private. they just put out a photo of him doing that. the big question the last time
around is, well, you look at the agencies who were supposed to interpret and implement the executive order, where were they. the department of homeland security and the state department were confused themselves over how to implement this. well, this was, today, the white house almost saying, you know, here is everybody. the attorney general, homeland security, and the state department all presenting this to the american public, wolf. >> michelle kosinski over at the state department. thanks very much. joining us now, the homeland security secretary, retired general john kelly. general, mr. secretary, thanks so much for joining us. thanks for your military service as well. >> hello, wolf. >> let's get right to the specific issues. the fbi reported 300 refugees admitted to the united states are currently under investigation for potential terrorist activity. how many of those 300 are from those six muslim-majority countries on this list? >> we have heard this before, wolf. things that are under investigation, particularly the fbi at the level at which they investigate, not a lot is shared
until those investigations are complete. and then passed down to the relevant agency to deal with. so i don't know how many are from those six. >> is this new intelligence that you've gotten since six weeks ago when you initially released your initial ban? >> a number of weeks ago this was intelligence that was law enforcement classified and now it's not. >> are most of these 300 from these six countries? can you give us a ballpark? >> no details on the investigations other than that there's roughly 300 under investigation. >> from all over the world. >> i suspect from all over the world. >> let's talk a little bit about your department of homeland security just came out with its own intelligence assessment that finds most of the foreign-born violent extremists here in the united states have been radicalized after entering the united states. this is the department of homeland security intelligence assessment, declassified, made public. does that undercut the need for this travel ban? >> if you are referring to the
one that was leaked, the report that was leaked, we were actually waiting for -- this was a pre-decisional draft report. we were waiting for the fbi to provide information as to numbers which they have. so i think the report that you're referring to was pre-decisional draft. in the open press we found that there was no way we could tell the numbers of individuals from those seven countries. >> in general have most of the violent extremists who are being watched right now, have they been radicalized here in the united states or did they come here from another country with a plot to kill americans? >> that's what's under investigation, part of it. the 300 are refugees, not, you know, self-proclaimed radicals from inside the united states. 300 are refugees who came here from another land, and i would think the investigation will go after the -- will -- one of the parts of the investigation will
be were they radicalized when they came or thereafter. >> don't you think you needed that intelligence before you release the travel ban affecting the six majority-muslim countries? >> the travel -- you refer to it, many refer to it as a travel ban. we have always looked at it as a pause from those seven nations, now six, until we can get our arms around exactly how good we can vet individuals from those countries. the fact of the matter is, with the exception of iraq, generally speaking we don't have mercedems in those countries, three of the six are now designated as terrorist supporters, by the state department. most of them are countries in collapse. we can't rely on the information -- >> here is the concern. >> let me finish if i could. >> yeah. >> we can't rely on those governments providing us useful information to vet. >> here is the concern. that a travel ban like this involving these six
muslim-majority countries will be fodder for isis, al qaeda, to recruit but terrorists. >> just to remind, the six -- seven now six -- were the exact same countries that the united states congress was concerned with and put on their list. the obama administration put on their list. it was an obvious place to start. i don't take the point that -- that the islamic extremists are prompted to do more extremism because of these kinds of things. it flies in the face of why the marine bombing or the barracks bombing, why 9/11. they seemed pretty angry at us leading up to this. >> they're calling it a muslim ban. >> it's not a muslim ban. >> the countries are all muslim. >> 1.7 billion muslims on the planet. there are something on the order of 51 overwhelmingly muslim countries. we had seven, now six, to the tune of a couple hundred million
predominantly muslims who were put on the list. and it's a pause as we look at ways that we can better vet these countries. these countries represent six or seven that we knew about. we are now looking at other countries. when we come up with additional vetting to protect the nation, better than it's been protected, there will probably be other countries we look at and say we want you to improve -- >> you think they're going to expand that list? >> i don't believe the list will be expanded, but there are countries out there that we'll ask, like iraq has done, by the involvement of their prime minister, to cooperate with us better, to get us the information we need, to safeguard the country. >> what other countries might be added? >> there are a number of them out there. i don't want to speculate. there are probably 13 or 14 other countries, not all of them muslim countries, not all of them in the middle east, that have very questionable vetting procedures that we can rely on. then, if we over lay additional
vetting procedures, chances are those countries, there will be minimum citizens from those countries that visit our country. >> president trump, at a news conference, said that you personally told him the original travel ban had to be enacted immediately. that was his word. because of security. it's now been delayed, what, for six weeks or so. doesn't that undermine the emergency component of this? because now it's going to be delayed for at least another ten days. >> right. clearly the courts have decided that they are in a position to understand the threat against the united states better than people like me or the intelligence agencies. at this point in time, with a 30-day delay because of the court action, we wanted to roll it out in a way that we did not have an opportunity to do the first time around. >> let me get to other sensitive homeland security issues while i have you. are you, the department of homeland security, considering a new initiative that would separate children from their parents if they tried to enter
the united states illegally? >> let me start by saying i would do almost anything to deter the people from central america to getting on this very, very dangerous network that brings them up through mexico into the united states. i would underline that the mexicans are after this network in the same way we are. it's extremely dangerous. i wouldn't say 100%, but certainly in the high 90%. this is by the social security organizations that inform me from central america that the vast majority of the young women, all women, are sexually abused -- >> my point -- >> let me just -- >> let me be precise. if you get some young kids who manage to sneak into the united states with their parents, are department of homeland security personnel going to separate the children from their moms and dads? >> we have tremendous experience in dealing with unaccompanied minors. we turn them over to hhs, and they do a very, very good job of either putting them in kind of
foster care or linking them up with parents or family members in the united states. yes, i am considering, in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network, i am considering exactly that. they will be well cared for as we deal with their parents. >> you understand how that looks to the average person who is, you know -- >> it's more important to me, wolf, to try to keep people off of this awful network. >> hovering over our discussion right now is the big headline of the day, this amazing charge from the president of the united states that president obama personally ordered a surveillance of trump tower in new york during the campaign. now, you are privy to sensitive information. are you familiar with that? you believe that? you have worked with both of these presidents. >> i don't know anything about it other than when i was sitting in the studio watching cnn. if the president of the united states said that, he has his reasons to say it, he has come
convincing evidence that that took place. >> what possibly could that convincing evidence be? >> i don't pretend to even guess as to what the motivation may have been for the previous administration to do something like that. >> you work closely with the fbi director james comey. >> he is my friend. >> he is your friend. you have confidence in him. >> i do. >> according to a source very close, he is incredulous how president trump could make this accusation against president obama. >> with due respect to sources, i have been wronged so many times in the last six, seven weeks as the secretary of homeland security by sources that were dead wrong. i am not suggesting in this case, but that were dead wrong. i don't go much on single sources anymore. >> if he went public -- and we're out of time -- if comey went public and said this never happened as clapper did, former director of national intelligence, would you believe comey? >> i would expect james comey to
then turn that over to some investigative arm and we could get to the truth or to the bottom line. again, james comey is an honorable guy. so is the president of the united states. the president must have his reasons. >> secretary of homeland security general kelly, thanks very much for joining us. you've got a tough job. good luck. >> it's a great job. >> we'll stay in close touch. don't leave just yet. more on breaking news. a source says fbi director james comey was left incredulous by president trump's unfounded claim that the former president barack obama ordered a wiretap of his phones. no matter how the markets change... at t. rowe price... our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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president trump's unfounded claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor has left intelligence and national security professionals stunned and bewildered. you are now include the fbi director in that category. pamela brown is with us. pamela, update the viewers on what you're learning. >> we're learning more about james comey's reaction to the president's tweets saturday morning claiming that president barack obama ordered a wiretap of his phones during the campaign, and we're told through our source familiar with comey's reaction that he was incredulous, that there was a level of disbelief from the fbi director to these tweets. we were told over the weekend that the fbi director wanted his staff at the fbi to reach out to staff at the department of justice for doj to knock down this allegation. the source says part of why he
was so concerned and why he wanted this to be knocked down publicly is because it was bad for the reputation of the fbi, and institutionally he felt it was important to knock it down given the magnitude of this allegation, an allegation that he knew was wrong according to this source. we're told, wolf, that at this point doj still hasn't done anything publicly and that has been frustrating to the fbi director. he believes that doj should. that has not happened yet. we should point out, though, that over the weekend james comey was not the one to reach out to doj. it was staff members from the fbi. of course, this is such a unique situation here where you have the head of the fbi sort of at odds with the president of the united states. so i asked my source the question of, is he concerned that he could lose his job? anything like that? we're told that's not something he is concerned about or preoccupied with. he knows it's a possibility but he has no plans at this stage to
resign. clearly he was frustrated by the tweets from the president saturday morning and also frustrated that doj did not come out and publicly knock it down at this point, wolf. that's what we're learning from a source familiar. >> you just heard the homeland security secretary say he has confidence in the fbi director james comey. on this occasions today the white house press secretary, sean spicer, refused to say that, that refusal raised some alarm bells. >> right. he also said that as far as he knew the two had not communicated. it's fair to say director comey would like to avoid having to reach out directly to the white house. i think he'd like to work with doj predominantly. clearly this is a very unique situation that these two men find themselves in. >> thanks very much. pamela brown reporting for us. good reporting as usual. joining us seth moulton of massachusetts, a member of the armed services committee and an
iraq warvate r veteran. thank you for joining us. the president called it a fact that president obama was tapping his phones at trump tower in new york city. how do you react to that? >> it's absolutely shocking. and, you know, as people have said, that really means two things. one, if the president -- if president obama was doing this illegally, then we in congress need to get to the bottom of it. if he was doing it legally it means he was able to obtain a warrant against the new president of the united states. both are frightening for national security and heighten the need to seriously investigate the russian interference in our elections. we need to rise above party politics and have an independent, bipartisan investigation on what's going on. >> you heard the report that james comey was incredulous after the president tweeted this. would you like to see the fbi director, james comey, publicly comment on all of this?
>> i certainly would. he didn't have any hesitations about publicly commenting about what he was doing to investigate hillary clinton during the campaign. he should certainly comment on that. i think americans deserve to know whether the president of the united states is under investigation. we still haven't heard that critical piece of information from the fbi director. there is a lot of concern in congress that the fbi isn't doing its job. i think director comey would give a lot of confidence to us and to his organization if he were to come clean and explain what's going on to the american people. >> what do you make of the fact that the president, at least so far, based on everything we are hearing, has not yet spoken to the fbi director, james comey, about this extraordinary allegation he made early saturday morning? >> it's an utter lack of leadership. this is the president of the united states making very strong, very serious allegations early in the morning on twitter, right before he tweeted about "the apprentice," which i guess
he thought was also important. he should have a conversation with the people who work in his administration. the idea that he would not even have a conversation with the fbi director at this point should be shocking to all americans, whether you are republican, democratic or independent. we expect leadership from our commander in chief and we are not getting it. >> do you think it's possible the president could fire comey? >> absolutely. he seems to enjoy firing people. he makes a point of that. we'll have to see. but at the end of the day, what president trump needs to do is start telling the truth, start being honest and start coming clean about what's going on. i think we are all waiting for him to do that. >> comey had staff at the fbi reach out to the department of justice to knock these allegations down. do you see the justice department, the attorney general jeff sessions, do you see the justice department refuting this? >> i don't know what to expect from the attorney general.
the attorney general should have resigned because he lied under oath. a top law enforcement official in the united states of america who lied under oath to a senate committee and hasn't resigned yet. that in itself is a shocking revelation. it shows that we really don't have any confidence in the attorney general. if i don't even have confidence in the attorney general to tell the truth under oath, i certainly don't have confidence in him to do the right thing in this complicated situation. >> white house press secretary sean spicer says, i am quoting him now, there is enough out there now that makes one wonder how some of this happened without the existence of surveillance. but the white house hasn't sourced anyone backing up these claims. certainly not on the record. should the administration present the evidence that they say they have? >> of course. i mean, the president has put himself in a box now. republicans and democrats alike are questioning where this is coming from. we have heard leaders like
senate graham and senator mccain say what is going on? you quoted senator rubio earlier. saying we have to get to the bottom of this. the president of the united states owes answers to the american people. >> you just heard the homeland security secretary, john kelly, tell me about wiretapping. he said this. i am quoting him now. he said, if the president of the united states says that, he has got his reasons to say it. he's got some convincing evidence that took place. your reaction to that. >> well, secretary kelly isn't looking at the evidence which is that the president of the united states is a serial liar. he lies every day to the american people. he is known for telling things that are untrue. there is no reason why we should think that he said this just because it's true. he might have said it because he thought he would get good attention from the media, he thought it would play to his base. these are all reasons why the president of the united states has said untruthful things in the past. so, you know, look, these are the facts. we have a president, president trump, who is very hard to
trust. and that's difficult for everybody. that's difficult for americans across the political spectrum. >> you also heard the homeland security secretary, john kelly, just tell me he is, in fact, considering a new policy that would separate children from their parents, from their moms and dads, if they crossed the border illegally. your response to that. >> it sounds terribly inhumane. and, you know, secretary kelly's job -- let me say this first. i am a marine veteran as is secretary kelly. i have tremendous, tremendous respect for general kelly and his service. but i think secretary kelly, in his new position, has been rather disappointing. we just heard him explain the reasons for the new executive order, and a lot of it just doesn't make sense. i mean, he said that the new executive order is based on new intelligence, and they cited the 300 refugees who is supposedly under investigation. but then you asked him where
these refugees are from, and he couldn't say. i mean, the secretary of the homeland security is not doing his job if he doesn't know where these 300 refugees are from that he is supposedly protecting the united states from. so there are a lot of questions that need to be answered that back up all of these new executive orders and the policies to restrict immigration to the united states. >> president trump, as you know, he signed this revised version of the travel ban today, dropped iraq from the list of banned muslim-majority countries. you vocally opposed the first version of this using the example of your iraqi interpreters. are those who potentially who could have been band from coming to the united states. do you welcome this change? >> of course it's a step in the right direction. but let us not be distracted that this order weakens our national security. it does the opposite of what the president says it will do.
it weakens our national security for two reasons. it makes it more difficult for the troops overseas to find the critical muslim allies, translators, intelligence sources, who put their trust in us to give us information about the terrorists. the new executive order makes it much harder for our troops to work with them. the second reason is that isis and other terrorist organizations will use this executive order, regardless of what the president or the secretary of homeland security says about it, they'll use this executive order to aid in this -- their recruiting to further the idea that they have that america is at war with the muslim-american faith. the president says he doesn't believe this is happening. with all due respect, mr. secretary, turn on your twitter app and see right online isis doing that today, using these things that president trump is doing to help with their recruiting efforts to inspire more terrorists to attack americans here at home and our troops overseas.
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insist the president's tweets speak for themselves and that congress should investigate the allegation. let's get some insight from our political and legal experts. if the president has evidence that his predecessor, president obama, actually launched a wiretap against him at trump tower in new york city, why is the white house calling on congress to investigate because the president -- he has the authority to declassify, release the evidence, anytime -- he could do it today. >> i suspect because the emperor has no clothes on, wolf, and there is really no evidence. they're trying to do a backward approach and say, here is our conclusion. now make this true. a similar tack they used with the travel ban initially to say, here is what we want, now make it happen. it generally works with bureaucracy but not with a criminal investigation which is what this would be. one of the things you learn as a lawyer is that the testimony of the attorney is not evidence. the testimony of the president
is not evidence. and his tweets and whatnot will not be sufficient. now, there actually may be something here, and congress may decide on their own to investigate the claim. we are talking about great expenditure and other things. really what has to happen is either incamera or classified to congress, tell them a reason, the same way the court said, give us a reason to justify this ban, give me a reason as congress to justify an investigation. so far there isn't any. >> you just heard the homeland security secretary, john kelly tell me that this is the president of the united states. he is privy to the most sensitive information out there. he must have his reasons for making this enormous charge against president obama. >> right. and you heard kellyanne conway, one of the president's advisers, essentially say the same thing, say the president is privy to all sorts of information that other people are not privy to so he must know something. so far they haven't been great
at dealing with this cloud, this cloud of russia that's hanging over this administration and has some ways hung over the campaign too. you would think they would go on the offense, that the president can call anyone into the oval office and essentially do an interview with anybody he wants to to find out what people knew, when they knew it, who they met with and get subject matter conversations with anyone has had in terms of this administration. they haven't done that. the only thing they've done, really, is call out the leakers, they've talked about fake news, talked about the media being the enny enemy of the state. the latest conspiracy theory the president is floating around that president obama, who has been on vacation, in new york, dining with his wife, tapping his phone way back when during the campaign. >> ryan, speaking of conspiratorial theories. you have heard a lot of the president's critics saying he had the conspiracy theory on
birther movement that the president wasn't born in the united states and during the campaign when he was fighting ted cruz, making this allegation that ted cruz's father may have been involved in the assassination of jfk. more recently 3 to 5 million illegal votes, that's the reason he didn't win the popular vote. wants to launch a commission. hasn't launched that commission of inquiry yet. you see the pattern here? >> i think so. it's quite a graphic you showed, wolf. maybe we shouldn't be surprised given the history that you laid out. i do -- maybe i am naive, but i continually find myself surprised that the president is engaging in the same kind of rhetoric and conspiracy theorizing that he engaged in when he was a private citizen and he didn't have access to, obviously, the resources and intelligence that he has now. i mean, if you think about the accusation he is making, there are three possibilities, right? if you take him seriously, if
you take him literally, one is that there was a fisa court surveillance request and that the court agreed with the fbi or whoever presented it to them that there was an agent of a foreign government, either trump himself or someone in trump tower. that's what fisa is used for. it's used to surveil agents of foreign governments on u.s. soil. that's one possibility. the second possibility would be that there was a more traditional criminal wiretap, and so the court would also have to have evidence of an underlying of a potential crime to authorize that. and the third and most extreme and unlikely scenario that president obama has some type of personal surveillance powers. the president is taking this accusation that, whoa, the government may have had enough
ability to do surveillance and turned it around into something that was malicious. but at the end of the day congress needs to get -- someone needs to get to the bottom of this and clear it up. >> the fbi director, mark preston, james comey, is described as incredulous by president trump's tweets early saturday morning. he could go public as he did with hillary clinton during the campaign, why doesn't he? >> he think he has had his time in the spotlight and got rocks thrown at him for it. rightfully so in many ways, if you are a hillary clinton supporter perhaps you think that james comey tilted the election towards donald trump. he sent officials over to the department of justice and told them to knock down the rumor, and as pamela brown reported earlier, to no avail. what i think is worth mentioning is the timing. this happened on saturday morning, at a time when donald trump was not having the best of
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we have more breaking news coming into the "the situation room." north korea state news agency just announced the country's leader kim jong-un soupervised the latest launch of missiles. the white house is taking it very seriously. brian todd, what are you learning. >> it was just moments ago we heard from his agency that he did personally supervise those ballistic missiles. experts tell us by firing off four missiles at once he's likely developing capability to defeat the u.s. mindful he's getting into a much more dangerous threat. >> reporter: tonight, kim
jong-un could be one step closer to threatening america with a nuclear-tipped missile. the ballistic missiles he just tested landed within 200 miles off the coast of japan. they were not his most advantaged missiles. but launching four at once he's working for a specific threat. >> they're putting together salvos that may be harder to defeat. that's the kind of thing that's going to be a little hard, not impossible, to defeat. >> reporter: it's viewed as kim's warning in response to joint military exercises going on now between u.s. and south korea forces. kim views those drills as practice for an invasion of north korea. the united states and south korea deny this. tonight the trump administration is calling his missile test a quote, very serious threat and not ruling out a military response, promise it's prepared to use, quote the full range of capabilities.
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the times reports soon after the obama order several missiles were veering off course, it's not clear whether it was due to the cyber attacks. >> the alleged cyberattack would be a good idea. the goal is to slow north korea developable missiles to buy time in changes in the north korea context. >> meaning to buy time for the u.s. and its allies to try to remove kim jong-un from power to negotiate from the regime. maybe level sanctions, maybe get chinese to pressure him further. those are options president trump has as kim jong-un continually tries to test him. >> brian todd, thank you. breaking news, james comey who is incredulous of the claim
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