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welcome back. topping this hour, silence from president trump on his claim that president obama tapped his phones during the campaign. reports of slack jawed amazement from his fbi director and questions from everybody else. saturday morning, the president an extraordinary claim. the question tonight, does he have any evidence to back it up, and if he does not, are there any consequences. >> reporter: it's the first weekday since taking office. president trump did not appear
before the cameras leaving his aides to defend his attack on president obama. >> the president believes that the obama administration may have tapped into the phones at trump tower. >> is that based on media reports? >> this is something we should look into. >> reporter: but neither the deputy white house press secretary nor any adviser provided evidence to back up the explosive claim except to suggest mr. trump has access to more information than they do. >> he's the president of the united states. he has information and intelligence that the rest of us do not. that's the way it should be for presidents. >> reporter: the latest presidential eruption started saturday morning from florida when the president tweeted this. terrible, just found out that obama had my wires tapped in trump tower just before victory. nothing found. this is mccarthyism. his tweets didn't stop attacking president obama again. this is nixon watergate, bad or sick guy. white house press secretary sean spicer who held his daily briefing off camera today
defended the president but declined to offer any evidence. >> i think there's no question na something happened. the question is, is it surveillance? is it a wiretap or whatever. but there's been enough reporting that strongly suggests that something occurred. >> reporter: the allegation shook washington and raised the stakes even higher for the russia investigation on capitol hill. a new cnn/orc poll found nearly two-thirds of americans say a special prosecutor should investigate russian allegations that includes most democrats, many independents and 43% of all republicans. james clapper, the former director of national intelligence, was among the federal officials said no wiretapping took place at trump tower. >> the part of the national security apparatus i oversaw, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time or as a candidate or against his campaign. >> reporter: the white house called for a congressional inquiry into what president
obama abused the power of federal law enforcement before the 2016 election. a spokesman for the former president said the allegations were simply false. >> thanks for this republican senator marco rubio who appears with the president on friday seemed dumfoundened on "state of the union." >> if it's true we're going to find out quickly. if it isn't, he has to explain what he meant by it. >> jeff zelly joins us now. there is no reporting on james comey's reaction to the tweets. >> he is not pleased. very frustrated we're told over the weekend by these reports. one source is telling us he believes institutionally he has to push back on this. inside the fbi, he actually urged lawyers at the department of justice to come out and say this simply didn't happen, not true. but they did not do that. it does appear there is a split between the fbi and the doj here. the question is, how does this manifest itself, what will the fbi director do.
at some point he will have to testify presumably before these committees. so this is something that we're going to keep our eye on because the fbi director was embraced earlier in this year by the president and he you know, serves at his pleasure so far. he was appointed by president obama but we're told he's not pleased bid this. >> jeff, thanks very much. in addition to all the other questions surrounding president trump's unsubstantiated claim, was it a kind of political sleight of hand? call it the shiny object theory. if true, it would not be the first time as randi kaye reports. >> reporter: when president donald trump's travel ban gave rise to outrage and protests around the country, he moved quickly to change the conversation with this surprise tweet about the supreme court. i have made my decision on who i will nominate for the united states supreme court. was it is an attempt to distract from the conversation at hand? if so, it seems toes have
worked. despite the white house's bland explanation as to why the president moved the announcement up. >> because he wanted to. >> reporter: the conversation turned to speculation about supreme court justice nominees. changing the communication sjs strategy he used during the campaign, too. >> i would gladly lend you my copy. >> reporter: after he got flack for going after the parents of captain huma you know chaun following their speech at the convention. >> if you look at his wife, his wife wasn't allowed to have anything to say. >> reporter: then candidate trump changed the narrative again by suddenly announcing he would not endorse paul ryan and john mccain in their primary races. also during the campaign when the access hollywood tape came out. >> i've got to the use some tick action in case i start kissing
her. >> reporter: trump invited bill clinton's former accusers to that debate. as if to say don't talk about me. let's talk about him. after the election, trump seemed to try to put an end to chatter about him losing the popular vote by tweeting that he had actually won the popular vote. if you deduct the millions who voted illegally. the conversation quickly turned to questions still unproven of voter fraud. that same month after agreeing to settle a fraud lawsuit against trump university for $25 million had, he pivoted again. demanding on twitter that the cast of the broadway show "hamilton" apologize to then vice president elect mike pence for their. [ booing ] >> reporter: and when donald trump was supposed to hold a press conference to address questions about business conflicts of interest, he postponed it. then suddenly made news by appearing in the lobby of trump tower with kanye west. >> you take care of yourself.
i'll see you soon. >> reporter: and remember those calls for trump to release his tax returns after the election? he made that story go away at least temporarily by appearing at cia head quarters. >> there is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and the cia than donald trump. >> reporter: and just days after he forced out his national security adviser, michael flynn, president trump made new headlines with a 77-minute press conference. >> the press honestly is out of control. the level of dishonesty is out of control. >> reporter: that got all the attention and the flynn story got buried if only briefly. randi kaye, cnn, new york. here to talk about this idea of diversion, political analyst mark preston as well as kristin anderson, ryan lisa and carl bernstein. mark, those who say this is a distraction. republicans are saying this is a distraction from our agenda. democrats a this is a distraction like the president's done before to get people off
the subject of russia. >> i believe it's a distraction. you know, when is the last time we saw a sitting president of the united states accuse his bred cespedeser of spying on him at 6:30 in the morning on a saturday? it doesn't follow nel convention counsel wisdom that he has any information that would lead him to believe this other than perhaps reading this breitbart story, perhaps somebody e-mailing it to him. he was very upset that he wasn't still getting if great praise for his speech to congress. >> because of jeff sessions the next day. >> eclipsed that and he put all his anger on to his staff at that time. he was going into florida pretty heated, as well. and i think what we saw with this case is he decided to try to distract. >> "the washington post" had a kind of fascinating tick-tock where they said basically the president sunday felt better because a lot of press coverage was about his tweet, not about the sessions or about russia.
but then wasn't happy even later in the day because not enough republicans were rallying to his defense. >> he has a very predictable pattern on a lot of things. i don't know that it's this devious sort of chess game so much as he just knows that when he tells people to dance they will dance. that when he sees a story thatup sets him, and he wants it to be a part of the discussion in 140 characters he can get everyone talking about it for at least 24 hours. he likes having that power. i think he acutely is aware of the power that he has, that he's been exercising it throughout the campaign, preinauguration and now that he is the president, i think he likes the ability to be able to demonstrate that with a single tweet i can completely change the news cycle. i don't know he wanted to divert away from the russia story because as we discussed earlier, this is also about the russia story. he's switching it so he's the victim of the story rather than the bad guy. but i think that's the pattern is that he just likes being able
to change the story. i don't know that to distract from something else so much as he enjoys people following. >> somebody referred to it as a grenade he throws into a subject and it does sort of change -- >> look, there are narratives on the right that don't always get injected into the mainstream media. he reads the conservative press closely. he listens to talk radio. he reads farout sites, as well is, alex jones or i think what happened here is he wanted to inject this counter narrative bubbling up on the right about wait a second, you know, donald trump is not the guy who is conspireing with the russians. he was the victim of this espionage campaign by the last democratic administration. that is a narrative if you read national review and mark levine, that's been bubbling up that a lot of conservatives don't think has been part of the mainstream
press. la streen arctticulated in this radio appearance. breitbart picked up on it and trump said more people to know about this. >> logically, as general hayden said in our last hawks former head of the nsa and cia, the president could find out the information he is alleging happened instead of a congressional investigation. he could find it out immediately. >> the president has no interest in finding out what the real truth is about his own relationship with the russians, those of his family, his aides, those of his campaign and those of his business organization. what we are seeing here is the fact that the donald trump's success in life including as a politician and businessman is about being a brilliant manipulator of media and provocate provocateur. we have seen then diversion here. yes, it's a diversion that he also probably believes some of what he's saying because he is given to outlandish beliefs.
look at his birther claims. there's no evidence he didn't really believe that craziness. a couple things going on the an once here but the most important thing to remember is, there is an investigation going on that is being obstructed by a number of people who are trying to find out all about donald trump's business relationships with the russians, those of his organization, those of mr. flynn, those of others in his campaign. and they are having a rough time because of what's being thrown in front of them in terms of all kinds of diversions. they haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet. >> when you say it's being obstructed are you meaning by these calls by the president toefsz investigate leaks, by calls from the president to investigate this new idea of president obama ordersing wiretaps? >> i don't mean literally necessarily an obstruction of justice. by obstructed i mean impediments put in front of all kinds of
investigations by the press, by the fbi, by the congress of the united states. it is very clear donald trump and the people around him and particularly mr. flynn plan session who'ses have already lied about this, do not want the facts known about what happened in the campaign, about about the business relationships around the trump organizationing with russians, eth though russians, in republics of the former ussr that are now quote independent and dominated by russian former kgb agents, et cetera, et cetera. that's why we need a select committee or a special prosecutor. and why those numbers that you just put up about why the public wants it including republicans. >> mark, how much cover are congressional republicans willing to give the president? >> i think it's a matter of time right now. what he's doing right now, we're not talking enough about.
this is incredibly reckless what he's done. let's assume it is true. even if it is true, it's reckless that he would go to twitter on a saturday morning. >> you're saying that the fisa court, not that the president himself was secretly somehow recording. > sore how he was wiretapped, whether it was done illegally by the president which we know is -- he can't do that or if the fisa court decided to do that. assume that was the case, reckless. assume he tried to do a head fake on everybody. how much more incredibly reckless is that? where does his credibility stand not only with congressional republicans who at some point have to back off of him, but what about the american people and all the foreign heders we have to deal with? what he has done is incredibly reckless no matter what the outcome is. >> but reckless is sort of a -- recklessness is sort of the speed of this presidency. donald trump has try today sell this as a feature, not a bug,
that he is somebody will come in and break things. even though his approval ratings when he starred were not great, it's not the ratings have collapsed over the last couple of weeks. he has maintained the support of the people who supported him when he took the oath of office in part by doing the sort of reckless stuff. >> next, reports of cursing and some chaos and more in the west wing. digging deeper into the roots of the president's feelings right now. and later, ben carson drawing fire for referring to slaves who were brought to the united states against their will as immigrants. decide for yourself ahead on "360" bp engineers use robotic ultrasound technology, so they can detect and repair corrosion before it ever becomes a problem. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.
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white house. president is no stranger to tweeting fast and furious. more now on the latest episode and the sources of ire from tom foreman. >> reporter: the blistering series of tweets raised extremely serious accusations about the obama administration wiretapping phones at trump tower with zero evidence to back the claims. nonetheless, president trump's team stormed the talk circuit echoing his outrage. >> the american people have a right to know if this happened. >> and god bless the united states. >> reporter: what spurred is the roaring tweet storm? after the president's widely praised speech to congress, sources say he was furious to see questions about his team's ties to russia again stealing headlines. particularly galling his attorney general jeff sessions' decision to step back from an investigation into the matter. >> i have recused myself in the matters that deal with the trump campaign. >> reporter: one source told cnn nobody has seen the president
that upset. while others said in a meeting laced with expletives trump accused his staff of fumbling the sessions situation creating a mini disaster. tv cameras captured an animated meeting in the only office involving trump's senior staff including steve bannon, press secretary sean spicer, ivanka trump and jared kushner and chief of staff reince priebus. >> there was nothing wrong with talking to the russian ambassador about sanctions. >> the current sanctions being put in place by the obama administration. i just answered the question. >> reporter: although priebus has been visible in defending the white house against the russia questions and was originally slated to travel to florida with the president for the weekend, that changed. priebus stayed in d.c., some sources say because of the chaos, the white house says he had a family commitment. but this is clear. the president took off, the tweets started flying and so did the spin. >> he got elected about 118, 119
days ago and the democrats are screaming russia every day. they haven't shown any connection. >> reporter: the lack of information from the president is still a problem because while he may be privy to certain details that would justify the claims against the former administration, until those are broadly known, this can look a lot like it's about the fury rather than the facts. anderson. >> thanks very much. former trump adviser anthony scaramucci, jennifer granholm and white house beautiful chee chief phil rucker whose by line is the most vivid account of the president's latest episode. the president rages at leaks, setbacks and accusations. phil, in the piece you wrote about the president's frustration over the last week with leaks, setbacks, accusations. very well received address to congress on tuesday than seemed to the attention on than didn't last as long as the white house would have liked. you called it a perpetual state
of chaos. what have you been learning from your sources? >> they're telling us that trump has been frustrated and not just by the russia situation and by what happened in the news last week but by the fact he's now entering week seven of his administration and there's still chaos. there are crises left and right. many of his own make. he's not been able to have the big signature accomplish ps he would like to have. they dropped the health care bill today. that could be an accomplishment soon. but he looks at a comparisonton barack obama from eight years ago and obama had so many things, the stimulus bill, other big ticket items that were passed in these early months and trump isn't there yet. >> anthony, what do you make of the notion that there's chaos first of all in the white house? >> well, listen, i'm not going to spin and say there isn't contention. there's obviously contention. i think it's healthy. >> it's by design you're saying. > i think so. if you look at the last 45 days,
these executive orders, move for did he regulation, the speech he gave on the state of the union was exemplary. he wants to bring the country together. once he rolls out the health care plan and you see the tax cut which steven nuchen says will come by the august recess, there's a lot of things going on reflected in the stock market, reflected in jobs optimism. >> one of the things that i talked toed andy card and leon panetta, folks chiefs can of staff before. they all say that there can't be competing centers of power in a white house. different folks who have the ability with the direct line to the president. there's got to be clear lanes. that's one of the things the chief of staff's job is to give senior advisers clear lanes. do you there there are, to those who say there are too many centers of power all of whom can get in the president's ear at
different times. >> he's a very unique president. he's an entrepreneurial president. 21 months into his political career and 45, 46 days into the presidency. if you look at the way he ran the trump organization, will he a hub and spoke system that worked well for him. i think what he's looking for is excellence from each of the power centers. as time goes on, he'll draw from each of the power centers what is best about those power centers. it's a unique of way of doing this? >> govern granholm to those who say these are growing pains. it's a difficult thing for anybody to go from campaign to governing, particularly if you have been a career politician and if a lot of folks in your staff. >> two things. one is, he is the ceo of this massive organization. you do not intentionally create chaos inside of something that is so consequential.
maybe it worked for him in his trump organization. it does not work in government. you do not want the american people fearful every day as mr. ruckers piece said, he was steaming, raging mad. i don't want a president who is steaming raging mad having his hand on twitter or the nuclear codes. most people feel that way. no drama na obama was calm, he had lines of authority. >> all presidents get angry. >> i'm not saying you don't get angry. i'm saying he is, when you combine his intentional sowing of chaos with lis perhaps rage on this occasion and who knows where else it can happen, and the point that you've been making earlier today about the intentional lies that he continues to sow. >> i want to -- anthony. >> let me quickly. >> i have a lot of respect for the governor but i've got to disagree on some of this stuff.
i don't know who is telling phil ruck they are stuff. and maybe he's steaming mad and if he was steaming mad, he should be even sorer at the people in the room that are leaking that stuff to phil rucker. >> there were 17 sources for the story. >> by the way, you're a fantastic journalist. i take you at your word. i read your by line every day. i'm taking you at your word. i think if he was, quote unquote, steaming mad and there were 17 sources for the story, that my recommendation to all 17 and possibly 18 people is shut up. give the guy an opportunity to run the government. give the guy the opportunity to have your faith and your level of confidentiality. >> phil, let me ask you. >> do you agree with that. >> do you have a sense, phil of the steaming mad, whatever however how far one wants to characterize his emotional state, do you think part of this is a frustration he has with having been a ceo, government is a completely different animal.
you can't have people signing nondisclosure agreements which is the way it is in a private corporation and suddenly you have a leaky ship. multiple leaky ships. >> yeah, that's exactly right. the government is not just the west wing. it's an enormous bureaucracy of all these agencies he has very little control over. he's the president of the united states but he can't dictate every hour at every minute what all of these agencies are doing, what they're saying, what they might be telling reporters like myself. he has less control than he did at trump tower or his campaign. that's been gnawing at him. the other problem is they've been slow to appoint a lot of the senior staff positions in these agencies in part because of the president has such a high demand for personal loyalty. so he's vetoed a lot of suggestions for deputy secretaries, assistant secretaries and the result is that a lot of these agencies don't have the staffing structure right now to operate at full speed. >> when you have a great big organization like that, if you are a successful businessperson
or ceo, you do not point the finger of blame at everyone around you. you take responsibility for the things that you do that are wrong. and you -- and pointing at whether it's the permanent government employees, whether it is his own staff, whether it is the media, whether it's the courts, you name it, everything, everybody but him has responsibility. when he is the one who has been sowing the chaos. >> final thought. >> i don't see it that way. give the president of the united states an opportunity to adapt to the job. he's got to get his team to coalesce around him which i think they will. in 45 days, if you just look at the economy, the buoyancy in the stock market it, directionally, this is going in the right direction. needs more time. >> appreciate you all being with us. coming up, former intelligence officials say president trump's wiretapping allegations are nonsense. the fbi didn't get a so-called fisa court order. a closer look what that is
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obtain a warrant lawfully to monitor trump's campaign for violating law, that would be the biggest scandal since watergate. i'm very worried that our president is suggesting that the former president has done something illegally. i would be very worried if in fact the obama administration has able to obtain a warrant lawfully about trump campaign activity with foreign governments. >> the senator said it's his job as a senator to get to the bottom of this. he promised he would. jeffrey toobin, likal mukasey and law professor jonathan turley. over the weekends i saw on abc, you said you think there probably was surveillance and it was conducted at the behest of the attorney of the justice department through the fisa court. but that president obama himself would not have ordered it. that's not the way it works. >> that is not the way it works. >> so what do you make of the president of the united states
tweeting that accusing the former president of doing this? >> i'm not trained. so i can't make anything of it. >> you think it has to do with -- >> no, what i'm saying is, i don't know, i don't communicate by tweet. and maybe it's the medium that becomes the message. but there is a core of truth in the sense that there was as intercept of some kind, i believe, because the times had it. a number of other news sources had it. your prior segment, it was acknowledged that there was in fact an intercept of some kind going on. apparently it had 20 do initially with illegality involving a rush yampb bang. they continued it as an intelligence investigation. >> if trump is picked up or someone affiliated in the trump organization is picked up on a wiretap ordered on the russian embassy or criminal investigation, that's very different. >> or a russian bank.
that's very different from barack obama tapping donald trump. >> to be sure. but trump was saying that obama tap him. >> i understand that. what i'm saying is that the problem he seems to have is with the fact that it is a fact that there was some kind of surveillance going on of people around him at the time of the campaign. now, whether he should have a problem with that or not, i can't tell you. >> professor, what do you think? >> i think i agree with general mukasey. the point is obvious that no one would seriously suggest that president obama personally ordered an intercept under fisa. that may have been an inartful tweet. those things happen. >> he didn't just suggest it. he said that. >> but he play have been refer together obama administration. i don't know. i couldn't say one way or the other. what i think is ironic is that democrats are embracing the fisa court like it's some great protection of civil liberties and due process.
for those of us in the civil liberties we've been critics of fisa for years. >> you're saying it's too easy to get a warrant. >> jonathan, you're saying that you're just excusing donald trump saying that barack obama was sick and evil and you say there are problems with the fisa court. we're talking about trump here. not the fisa court. >> i wasn't addressing that statement. i was addressing the fact that he said obama engaged in this wiretapping. i don't know what he meant but i don't think it's nearly as important as the issue that be general mukasey was talking about which is was there surveillance that you know swept. >> its scope the trump tower. that does raise some serious questions. i don't have any information to indicate that's true or not. fisa is a lower standard for surveillance. and i also think that it's a bit odd. you know, the obama administration was not as pure as driven snow when it came to surveillance, not for civil libertarians. james clapper was accused of
lying to congress about one of the largest surveillance programs in the history of this country. president obama's administration put journalists under surveillance like rosen at fox. so you know, i think it's a mistake to overplay there issue. >> i should point out that, and i wrote this down in the green room watching it that james clapper's denial was kind of a nondenial denial. he said that donald trump wasn't wiretapped. and at the trump campaign wasn't wiretapped but that is not the same assaying that there were no intercepts going on of any kind that involved people around donald trump. that seems to be the at the core of this. >> left out the trump organization. >> left out people who. >> other people in the building of trump tower, as well. >> exactly. >> but if, for example, someone in the trump tower called the russian embassy, the russian embassy's lines are tapped as a
matter, of course. how does that turn into some scandal involving barack obama? >> if -- nobody's saying it's a scandal involving barack obama personally. >> except the president of the united states is saying that. >> understood. the point the professor is making is there was some kind of surveillance going on that involved people somehow involved weld donald trump at the time of the campaign and that that touches a nerve. >> clearly. >> all right. we're going to leave it there. thank you all. coming up, ben carson refers to enslaved people forced to come to the u.s. as immigrants. his comments are getting a lot of attention. we'll play you what he said and you can judge for yourself. meeting configuration. blueprints. call hruska. we've gotta set up a meeting. sure. how do you spell that? abreu, albert, allen, anderson c, anderson r... you know what? i'll just tell him myself. door. andrade...
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ben carson has stirds up controversy by calling enclaved slaves immigrants. he was speaking to department employees today and spoke about immigrants at ellis island how they worked hard for children and grandchildren to create opportunities in the united states and then he said there. >> there were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships worked even longer and harder for less. but they too had a dream that one day, their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great grand daughters might pursue prosperity. and happiness in this land. >> joining me now are political commentators paris denard and angela rye. this got a lot of pickup and controversy, kind of went viable. is it much ado about nothing. >> i think secretary carson may
have chosen to use a word that might not have been the best word immigration, but i don't think anybody should take his comments during this speech as him not understanding the difference between voluntary immigration and involuntary servitude. i was reminded of a quote attributed to dr. king which says we play have all come on different ships but we're in the same boat now. nobody insinuates dr. king was belittling the manner by which africans came to this country. i don't think we should do the same with dr. carson. what's unfortunate to me, anderson, is that it seems as if with black republicans or conservatives there's automatically had rush to judgment we are unaware of our history or where we come from or why we're here. we can understand that dr. carson who has an exhibit in the african-american museum and saw portions of it that talked
about slavery has acute awareness where we come from and how amazing it is so that so many years after slavery he can stand there as a secretary of hud. >> angela, is it unfair to pinpoint one sentence he says in a long speech where he it appears like he's speaking extemporaneously, and parse his words? >> i think at some point we all have to be accountable for the extemporaneous words we use, as well. ben carson said that black people work ford less. i have breaking news for ben carson today. you can't see it on my shirt but it says we built this joint for free. we didn't build it for less. i believe cune ta kin ta ta had no deep desire to one day become toby in had country. his identity was stolen from him and he was brought here involuntary. whether they had dreams and hopes for their children who were born slaves and became
free, maybe that is the case. i would hope that it was the case, but the way that he talked about slavery today is treacherous because it doesn't acknowledge there were 400 years of involuntary sevitude, 35,000 voyages across the atlantic ocean to bring black people here involuntary. that is what was wrong with his remarks. >> when he said work forless, is it possible he was being sarcastic? >> do you think it's a good idea to be sarcastic about slavery. >> what i think doesn't matter. >> it matters to me. paris, just quickly, it's an important point for us to dialogue about it. i don't think it behaves anyone, it's not in anyone's interest whether we're in black history month or women's history month to talk about slavery in a sarcastic manner. >> the room that was there, the secretary received numerous standing occasions and then after it was over, after the remarks, nobody had an issue with what he said.
matter of fact, the last question that was actually a comment to him was sir, i actually was nervous but coming. and being the secretary of comakts. and the woman ended by saying -- >> he's hud. >> secretary of hud. >> she said but i am confident in your abilities now. i'm at peace. i know that you're going to do a good job. so i do think it's much ado about nothing because the people in the room understood where he was coming from, understood what he was saying. and they swarmed him over 100 people stood in line to meet him and take pictures after these remarks. it was only after this report came out in the media which made it this big to do about nothing. i think the unfortunate thing is that you can take elements of the media and totally miss the moment that the people in the room saw, heard and were proud that yes, angela, that after 400 years of slavery and involuntary servitude that we can veg people like you and me sit on this program descendants of slaves
and have them at the supreme court, the president of the united states and yes, even secretary of hud. >> i appreciate everything you said. i just learned last week that i originate in a slave from senegal whose name was senegal whose name is marie. i can tell you the humbling moment i found that out on the plane. i cannot tell you how this moment struck me particularly. where so many things about black history, including our last black president have been trivialized. maybe i would throw this away as a mistake and maybe he just had a gap in his judgment and in his memory. he's also compared obamacare to slavery. this is an analogy that ben carson tosses around, he may have severe misunderstanding of what american slavery really was, and how it impacted lives including those of us who sit here today. >> we're out of time. i appreciate both your perspectives. just ahead, the scandal that is now rocking the u.s. marine corps. a private facebook page
the defense department is scrambling to stay ahead of a nude photo scandal. nude photos of current and former female marines. a former marine exposed the scandal. drawing new attention to sexism in the armeds f forces, s triggering an investigation that's ongoing, barbara starr has more. >> reporter: the photos hundreds of them, sexually explicit and posted without consent. they were posted via a private facebook group page called marines united. members on the site solicited
others to submit photos of is women, only men were invited to join the private page where derogatory and reportedly violent comments were made against the women. now, dozens of marines could face disciplinary action, it was all brought to light by a former marine. >> what we discovered was roughly 100 folders that contained dozens of other sub folders. is some of them had one or two images in them with no real way to identify the victim. others included name, rank, current military duty station. easily weaponizible if put into the wrong hands. >> reporter: brennan wounded in afghanistan, has know been threatened. >> my family has received threats, but it's not about us, it's not about our family. this is about -- it all goes back to this being about the victims that my story brought to light.
>> reporter: brennan founded war horse, which first reported the allegations on the site reveal run by the center for investigative reporting. now that it's all public, the commandant of the marine core issues a statement saying, for anyone to target one of our marines online or otherwise, in an inappropriate manner is distasteful and shows an absence of respect. a former military attorney says there are serious legal consequences. >> it could conceivably lead to a number of service members being court-martialed. >> reporter: and tonight, facebook has taken down the offensive content. anderson? >> barbara starr thanks very much, we'll be right back.
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that's all the time we have, thanks for watching. time to hand it over to don lemon for cnn tonight. i'll see you tomorrow. it would be an absolutely stunning charge if it were true. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. president trump doubling down on his twitter charge that former president barack obama ordered a wiretap of his phones during the campaign. with absolutely no evidence. no evidence to back it up, a source saying james comey was incredulous over the president's allegations and had his staff reach out to the department of justice, asking them to knock down the whole thing. press secretary sean spicer tonight, ducking the question of whether the white house has confidence in comey. but is all this just a distraction from the real issues facing the a