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house plan to repeal and replace obamacare. he says he's proud to support it, now the sales pitch to get his party in line. >> the white house left to fend for the president's wiretapping claims after republican lawmakers are left with answers themselves. and are cell phones and tvs helping the cia gather intelligence documents released by wikileaks appear to back up that claim. hear what the former cia director has to say. a terrifying story for americans. >> you know, there's no question that the stuff in your house can be hacked. and we usually are reporting to how hackers are gaining access to your baby monitor, your cell phone. but this is a story about the cia and that makes it much more scary. >> thanks for getting an "early start" with us. i'm dave briggs. >> i'm christine romans. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. the future to repeal and replace
obamacare depends on ho you ask. a lawmaker at the president's meeting with house republican leaders tells cnn his endorsement came with a stern warning. the president said failure to pass legislation after seven years of promises would lead to a, quote, bloodbath in the 2018 elections. mr. trump even channeled president obama's most famous unfulfilled health promise. >> this will be a plan where you can choose your doctor. this will be a plan where you can choose your plan. it's a implicated process but actually it's very simple. it's called good health care. >> president trump's effort to get resistant republicans on board has not done the trick. at least not yet. objections released by rank and file lawmakers, powerful conservative groups and key senators signal threats to the bill's very survival. one aide to a conservative house member tells cnn the bill is dead. too many conservative groups are coming out against it.
there's no way they'll have votes to pass in its current form. cnn phil mattingly has more from capitol hill. >> dave and christine, it took less than 24 hours for that big bold house republican repeal plan to get into very real big bold trouble, more or less. conservatives not just in the house but also in the senate rejecting it outright. some saying they will be oppo s opposesed to it no matter what even if potential changes are made. house republicans aides and lawmakers that i've spoken to over the last couple days say they are confident going forward. how confident? well, li shg, listen to speaker ryan. >> we need 218 votes. this is the beginning of the legislative process, we have a few weeks, we'll have ifably when that comes to the floor. i'll guarantee that. >> that's a clip and safe moment. a bold guarantee. one that comes with knowing everything working behind the scenes. obviously house leaders, chairs to bring their leaders along. what gives them the most hope is what they're seeing from the white house.
president trump, vice president pence, health and human services secretary tom price all getting in full behind this plan in the last 24 hours. and that matters. the belief is with those individuals behind it, especially with president trump behind it, they'll move those conservatives into line. unify this conference going forward, but obviously, the house is just the first step. then it has to go to the senate. there is a lot of battles to come and there are a lot of road blocks ahead. dave and christine. >> what this bill looks like, right? wealthy americans are expected to get a sizable tax break. and the ultra wealthy will see an even bigger tax cut. under obamacare, the affordable care act is paid for by taxes on the rich. individuals making more than $200,000 a year under obamacare pay a 0.9% medicare tax on income above that amount. same with families bringing in
$250,000. they pay extra. they pay a tax. that tax will disappear under the gop plan because it's used -- that tax under obamacare is used to pay for subsidies. the subsidies go away. you don't need the tax. and there's also a tax surcharge, 3.8% on investment income. all of these people making gobs in the stock market rally will be taxed on that. some of those in the top 1% of incomes will get a tax break of around $33,000. those in the top 0.1% will get an average tax cut of about $197,000 under the gop plan. that's according to a study of the original plan from the nonpartisan tax policy center. what we saw this week is very similar. we need the congressional budget office, of course, to score this. that could be soon. now, this would also double the amount of people that could help contribute to savings accounts. the republican strategy is to get people to save for their own health care.
but health care, economists say that is a tool used mostly by americans with higher knicks. and lower and middle income americans they don't have cash to stash away. if you don't have a lot of money, you're using that money to live on and invest with and that is sort of the problem to push people on health savings accounts. >> the irony here, the president we won on the backs of those who make $50,000 or less a year they may be the ones. zach wolf, you've got conservative groups, freedom works across the board here, they all oppose this. you've got frank on the right and the left. what's the biggest obstacle to this bill's passage, do you think, for paul ryan? >> you heard him say it, 218, he needs to get enough team to vote for it. he made a good point, though. this is the beginning of the process. they put the bill out there.
nobody had seen it. everybody dislikes it. the question is, over the coming weeks and potentially months are they going to be able to change minds about it. are they going to be able to change it so that enough republicans get on board. this part of it they're looking to just pass with republican support. so the democrats who are pretty clutch universally united against it are an afterthought here. there are some things they can say. they can say this is an thorrive process. >> i was listen to sean spicer yesterday, zach. i felt like he started to talk about the second and third phase, where different issues will be addressed in phase two and three. which seems to me like he was saying, when we get the cbo score, this whole sentence hasn't been written yet. do you think there could be
setup for criticism there? >> oh, absolutely. i also think it's going to be a bargaining chip for people who oppose the bill. we know you don't like it, but please stick with us here and we can doll more later. i will say the parts they want to do later, those are going to require 60 votes in the senate and that's going to be much harder. >> here's in part sean spicer's selling of this bill yesterday in a press conference at the white house. >> to all of the people who have concerns about this, especially on the right, look at the size. this is the democrats. this is us. you can't get any clearer in terms of this is government this is not. our bill which is a tenth of the size does repeal and replace what their bill just did in massive government bureaucracy, that say big difference. >> you talk about a surreal moment, an administration who is all about size, big, big, selling the small size of their
bill. i found out more than a tad ironic. but again to get back to the biggest obstacle, when you look at the senate, zach, you have those that are concerned about expansion moderate republicans and then who are called obamacare lite, the ted cruzes of the world. who will be harder to convince? >> i think harder the mike lees and ted cruzes of the world especially the rand pauls are going to be hard to convince on this. they've made sort of careers saying obamacare is a bad thing. to pass a version of obamacare is going to very difficult. on the other hand, they've been saying for so long, we need to repeal this. so if the one thing that is moving through congress to sort of repeal this law is the only thing to vote for, it might be not not to. >> president tweeting i'm sure my friend rand paul will come around with the new health care program because he knows obamacare is a disaster. he also threatened them,
basically he said, look, you're going to have a bloodbath in 2018 if we don't get this right. i have a counterintuitive question, trump rode to the white house on the wave of obamacare. the polling showless the hitch of obamacare isn't as great as they thought. some people, what they dislike about obamacare is because it didn't go far enough. >> yeah, i think that's right. the point you made earlier, a lot of the people who might be affected by this are people who might be benefitting from insurance from obamacare. on the other hand, i think it's really expensive for people in certain states. it's gotten more expensive and continues to get more expensive. you look at polling, it's gotten more popular since the election, obamacare has. and now that people are looking at not having it anymore, it continues to grow in popularity. that doesn't mean that vast majority of americans support
it. no it's very split. >> of course, they ran on obamacare saying this is what they have to do to please their voters. looming over the entire agenda for president trump are these attacks, the tweets about wiretapping by president obama. and here is what devin nunes of the house intelligence committee said about the accusations made over the weekend on twitter. >> president is a neophyte to politics. he's been doing this for a little over a year. i think a lot of the things he says, you guys sometimes take literally. sometimes, he doesn't have 27 lawyers and staff looking at what he does. which is, i think, at times refreshing. and at times can also lead to us have to be sitting in a press conference like this answering questions that you guys are asking. >> that is one of the most staggering statements about a sitting president i have ever heard. as opposed to taking the president literally, what ought
the press do, zach? >> well, i'm going to disagree with the congressman here. i think we have to take him literally. he is the president of the united states. i think he knew exactly what he was doing when he made those tweets. and it's interesting, you saw sean spicer yesterday say similar things to devin nunes. there is is not one person in government who has backed up these claims that he made about president obama. and yet it looks like congress is going to spend a little bit of time investigating them which is a pretty remarkable thing. the president is going to make things that are unprecedented and now the wheels follow him him in a remarkable way. >> zach, we'll talk about a bit about the cia, we'll talk about that and other headlines when we come back in a half hour. get a cup of coffee. see you soon. what will it take for north korea to suspend its nuclear development? china has an idea and could mean something for the u.s. a live report from seoul, next.
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wiretapping claims after republican lawmakers were left without any answers to fend off the growing questions. and purported cia hacking tools are revealed, thanks to wikileaks. could cell phones and tvs help the cia gather intelligence? welcome back to "early start" this morning. i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dave briggs. i'm a bit of a fheo fighe neoph. tonight danger my words literally. >> i won't. >> i'm quoting devin nunes on the president of how he handled the wiretapping. it was just a surreal moment. the future of the plan to repeal and replace obamacare depends on who you ask. president trump now giving 100% support for the health care plan. a lawmaker meeting with leaders tells cnn his endorsement came with a stern warning. we're told the president said
failure to pass legislation after seven years of promises would lead to a, quote, bloodbath in the 2018 midtuerm elections. mr. trump even channeled president obama's most unfulfilled health care promise. >> this will be a plan where you can choose your doctor. this will be a plan where you can choose your plan. it's a complicated process but actually it's very simple. it's called good health care. >> president trump's effort to get resist tants republicans on board hasn't done the trick. at least not yet. these are early days at the starting block, folks. all of that signals threats to the bill's very survival. one aide to a conservative house member telling cnn the bill's dead. too many conservative groups are coming out against it. there's no way they'll have the votes to pass it in its current form. this morning, two committees with jurisdiction over the matter will have their say at markup sessions.
cnn's phil mattingly will be watching closely from capitol hill. interesting element here, house republican leadership, aides and lawmakers that i've season to over the last couple days say they are confident going forward. >> we need 218 votes. this is the beginning of the legislative process, we have a few weeks we'll have 218 when that comes to the floor. i'll guarantee that. >> that's a clip and safe moment. a bold guarantee. obviously house leaders, chairs to bring their leaders along. what gives them the most hope is what they're seeing from the white house. president trump, vice president pence, health and human services secretary tom price all getting
in full behind this plan over the course of the last 24 hours and that matters. the belief is with those individuals behind it, especially with president trump behind it, they'll move those conservatives into line. unify this conference going forward. obviously, the house is the first step. then it has to go to the senate. there is a lot of battles to come and there are a lot of road blocks ahead. dave and christine. >> we bring in the managing editor of cnn politics zach wolf. good morning, zach. it's kind of a remarkably rocky rollout for something that seven years republicans have been promising. they've been promising to repeal obamacare before obamacare was actually a law. this is a mission critical. i hate to beat up on congressman jason chaffetz, this remark yesterday on "new day" which he has walked back cyst trystalliz what they don't get about obamacare. let's listen. >> we're getting rid of the individual mandate.
we're getting rid of those things that people said they don't want. you know what americans have choices and they've got to make a choice. rather than getting that new iphone that they just love and spend hundreds of dollars on. maybe they should invest in their own health care. they've got to make decisions themselves. >> he later said he didn't say that well but this is about choice. health care officials say they don't buy iphones in the first place. they're buying a cheaper phone with a crappy little plan. they say it just shows that the gop doesn't understand how tough it is for people who depend on obamacare. >> well, and you saw that with republicans were also coming out and criticizing chaffetz for that. and he pretty quickly walked it back on a subsequent interview on another network. so, he sort of realized the problem of what he said. but it does -- you know, you point out the lower-income people, predominantly supported donald trump. so we're sort of dealing with these people who are trump
supporters and will now deal with the repercussions of the obamacare repeal that they voted for, in a lot of cases. >> so, you've got opposition mainly in the senate. the house certainly some, but cnn's latest calculation shows they only need 216 votes to get it through the house, not the full 218. they will only have two defections, zach, in the senate, 20 in the house. what can they offer as far as medicaid and those ted cruise-likes who say this is obamacare lite? >> where they try to allay both of those outlines of their party, which have very different wants and needs, but i think ultimately, this is going to get down to, if you think about it, we've been running on seven years repealing obamacare. this is the obamacare repeal. if you want to the say you've
repealed obamacare. you're going to have to find a way to like this bill, or some version of this bill that we have in the next couple of weeks. i think that's going to be the most -- you know, the best argument they can make for a lot of people. >> big story is this wikileaks revelation. the new york post called it i spy. files that reveals the cia has amazing hacking tools right in your own home, your television, your phone, they can be turned on to spy on you. here's what defense secretary leon panetta said to that to wolf blitzer yesterday. >> what wikileaks is doing and continues to do is to leak the most sensitive information about how our intelligence operations conduct their business. so, i would think, that if the president is truly concerned about leaks, he would not support wikileaks, nor would he support any other kind of intelligence leaks that damage our country.
>> failed to mention, zach, he also used to run the cia, so, he's someone who knows its tools and its methods. what do you think of the timing of this? >> well, i just wanted to also say you didn't hear leon panetta deny anything in that clip that we just played. he referred to it as things that -- you know, things the cia does or might be. you know, i think the timing is interesting. wikileaks has always had -- in recent months has timed things seemingly to coincide with efforts of donald trump. he obviously made the unfounded claim that the cia, or, you know, the u.s. intelligence had been spying on him. or wiretapping him at the behest of barack obama. that's not something that anyone on capitol hill has supported, we should point out. but it is interesting that they come out on the heels of that -- or this document dump, rather, wikileaks, on the heels of his claims. >> some suggested it's worse than the snowden leaks.
finally, i want to ask you about the wiretapping allegations from president trump to president obama over the weekend. sean spicer made it clear, it's his final public comments on the subject. no one, not a single lawmaker has provided any evidence that the wiretapping allegations are true. so where does this go next? is the story over for now? >> well, they had said that congress should investigate it. but we've heard people who are in charge of the committees who would be investigating it on capitol hill kind of say, well, you know, maybe the president didn't know what he was talking about, we'll wrap this into some other investigations. it doesn't seem to be at the top of their list. and i also -- i think sean spicer will be challenged on not addressing this again. he's probably going to have to say something else. >> you're right about that. no doubt. he'll be on camera again. >> zach wolf, nice to see you bright and early, thanks. there's a lot that businessman bob nardelli sees from president trump that he likes. he's a guru, former ceo of
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look, u.s. officials in light of the missile launch this week came out and said they're committed to it. you have the acting president saying the drills going on and both parties have affirmed that they will continue with the deployment of thaad. a u.s.-designed missile defense system deployed here in south korea. the first pieces of that system actually arrived on the peninsula this week. china also registering their objection with the thaad system saying it's an infringement, an attempt to box them in. the u.s. secretary of state will arrive next week. >> thank you. lime to look at what's coming up on "new day." chris cuomo joins us. good morning, sir. >> good morning, my young friends. >> how are you this morning? >> younger than you. >> i know. i know. rub it in,romans.
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the white house. as it reopened for tours, president trump meeting a group of school children, clearly thrilled by the appearance. mr. trump even pulled aside a lucky fifth grader but look who was hovering in the background. hillary clinton. looming over your shoulder. a portrait of her as first lady, hanging right over president trump's shoulder. she's not going away anytime soon. >> still in love with her. that little fifth grader pulled out, they were really jazzed, those kids. >> politics always fascinating. >> let's get a check of cnn money futures. dow futures with a bit of a pause with the expected rate hike of the fed next week. when the president tweets investors listen and the drug industry taking a hit. president trump sending out this tweet tuesday morning before 9:00 a.m., i am working on a new
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that success. here are the raw numbers. women account for about 16% of all corporate board seats among the largest companies. that's according to the government accountability office. >> and we've learned that their board is full of 30%. almost double the great. >> dave, the ever-investigative reporter looked at how many women on its board. the ceo, and three women on that board. that is much better. >> setting the bar, hopefully an example for other. >> state street makes good the point that when you have a lot of women in leadership positions you tend to do better in revenue. thanks for joining us, i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dave briggs. follow us on "early start" on twitter. "new day" starts right now. it's a complicated process, but actually, it's very simple. it's called good health care. >> united on repeal, but we are divided on replacement. >> trump care is here. and you are going to hate it.
>> where is the proof that president obama bugged president trump? >> we have no further comment. we have a lot of the things that he says, you guys stiles take literally. >> i very much support the appointment of a special prosecutor. >> i don't know anything than what i've read in the newspaper. >> this is a big revelation than people understand. it could be the biggest expose of u.s. intelligence gathering measures. these leaks are dangerous. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we want to welcome our viewers around the states and the world. this is "new day." 6:00 in the u.s. an bloodbath in 2018 if the plan to repeal and replace obamacare does not pass. two house committees formally begin the process of marking up the bill today.
>> president's credibility is going to factor into his ability to make the deal. and his and the white house' inability to provide any proof of his wiretapping allegation is going to have legs here. we have new reporting on the backlash on the president. the house begin a hearing on russia's alleged meddling in our presidential election. cnn has every angle covered. let's start live on capitol hill. >> good morning to you, chris. today is such a critical day for the fate of this health care bill. two house committees will begin marking up the bill trying to get to a final product that can eventually pass on the house floor but there's still an avalanche of criticism coming from many republicans and the power of the presidential bully pulpit hasn't been able to twist many arms just yet. >> we're going to tak