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only filed two days ago, he was unaware working as a top advisor to trump's presidential campaign. >> you have an attorney calling the transition saying that -- >> no no. >> the person in line to be the national security adviser may need to register as a foreign agent. >> it's not a question of raising a red flag john, it's whether they gave them the aid vice they' -- advice they're supposed to. there are certain activities that fall under the requirements, it is not up to nor is it appropriate nor is it legal for the government to start going into private citizens seeking advice and telling them what they have the register or not. that would be the equivalent of walking through a tax return and saying that's not a deduction you should take, that's why when you contact these act -- agencies they tell you you
should seek professional advice. >> glen. >> we're moving beyond the legal question, just to follow-up with john. moving beyond the legal question here, this is an issue of judgment about who you guys wanted your administration, if there were published reports that your potential national security adviser had dealings with government of turkey, a controversial regime at this moment, congressman cummings sent a letter to mike pence during the transition informing him of this raising a red flag, mr. pence was on television i believe twice yesterday saying he had no lodknowledge of that letter -- >> before you accuse the vice president of things he said he was not aware of the filing, and he wasn't. >> in terms of the larger question, forget about filling out forms and the legalism. what does this say about the transition team's judgment about
still appointing him as national security adviser when you had knowledge of this information. >> you're asking me forget asbot the legalisms. you can't forget about the legalisms. that's what you said. what i'm saying is that's what we did. >> so let's start there. we have jessica schneider standing by reporting on all this today. and jeff zeleny, cnn senior white house correspondent. on mike flynn and his role with the turkish government what exactly what he doing? >> a lot to go through, brooke. you saw the white house would you say distancing itself from michael flynn's lobbying ties to turkey, sean spicer saying president trump had no idea that his national security adviser's company was working as a foreign agent. i want to break down first, a source does tell me that the
white house council was well aware before the nainauguration and after that the company was planning to file a full agent disclosure form, so i'll back up and tell you what's at issue. at the height of the election, the flynn intel group received a $530,000 contract in the netherlands, it was to improve business developments with u.s. and turkey, when michael flynn was appearing at campaign rallies with then candidate trump, michael flynn at the same time was meeting with turkish government officials in new york. this was part of a disclosure filed this week. it does state no fees were actually paid by a foreign government, just the dutch consulting firm but nevertheless flynn did wait to file the
mandated paperwork and there are a lot of questions as to why the white house brought on flynn who did have close ties with the turkish government meeting with them like i said in september. >> wouldn't that then receive zeleny raise red flags and questions just about the vetting process over at the white house? >> sure, also raises questions about judgment but you have to look back in the moment in the campaign, mike flynn is someone very close to the trump campaign from the very beginning, so we of course have had several conversations about general flynn about his contacts with russia and whatnot and it's clear he did not receive the same kind of vetting that a new applicant might have. he was essentially part of the fabric here, warts and all potentially here and that explains and while vetting was not the same with him as it may
have been with someone-plyi app off the street if you will. >> let me ask you about the february jobs numbers out today. the first jobs report out under officially his full watch. 235,000 jobs added. the white house is obviously taking the victory lap on this. but what happens -- specifically he was asked about this and he knew he was expecting the question and quoted the president in saying they have been phony in the past as the president has called them phony the past but very reel now. what did you think about that. >> i thought that was quite a statement. the secretary was laughing, sean spicer literally had a visible laugh about that, oh, they were phony in the past, he's accepting them now, that's not a serious answer for what is a serious topic.
brooke, we have heard for months that the unemployment number is inaccurate. he has thrown out wildly inaccurate numbers about how many people were employed, but the same about last year and the year before that, it is a good jobs report no question at all but he has consistently discredited that report and i think sean spicer was trying to laugh that off. i'm not sure how that played, perhaps in the west wing it played out fine. >> he delivered a laugh line. here it was. >> in the past the president has referred to particular job reports as phony or fiction, does the president believe this was accurate and a fairway to measure the economy. >> i talked to the president about this and said to quote him and he said they may have been phony in the past but very real now. >> thank you so much.
let's look back at what the reporter was referencing there. some of president trump's past thoughts on jobs reports. >> every time it comes out i hear 5.3% unemployment. that's the biggest joke there is. don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment. the number is probably 28-29, as high as 38, in fact i even heard as high as 42%. if you look for a job for six months and then you give up they consider you statistically employed. it's not that way. >> joining me now, the lead political editor for -- radio, and cnn military analyst cedric
clayton. let me begin do mincmincaa with they're doing to victory lap and gets laugh from all this, is this sort of hypocrisy funny? >> it's not funny in the sense that of course the numbers should be taken seriously, but we shuouldn't be surprised that donald trump would feel this way but i think it's a good day for the labor of statistics and going forward good, we can trust the numbers, and now he's president and so he has to believe those numbers so it's always going to be this way with donald trump with polling or unemployment numbers that he believes them when they're good for them an doesn't when they're
bad. >> what do you think? >> i think that was a moment of levity in the white house briefing but as jeff zeleny was saying i don't know how that would necessarily play to people just listening in. this is a very good point that this is a stylistic thing for president trump. he has been in these kind of situations before where he has been asked about comments he's made in the past maybe on the trail during the campaign and he'll just shrug them off. he's not bothered by the fact there have been inconsistencies, long it works for him and bolsters the message whatever it is he's trying to do, that's fine for him. >> a lot of questions on the economy, but a huge chunk of that briefing was on what had happened, what did the white house know with regard to general flynn, so let me ask you, and i thought glen thrush really hit on it and athina jones followed up this question about judgment whether or not this was a legal lawyer issue
with regard to general flynn is this not a judgment issue if he has been making money with the turkish government and someone they wanted as a national security adviser, do you question that? >> i most certainly do, brooke, i think one of the key things here is the fact that they seemed to have known this in at least part of the transition team and still went through with not only hiring general flynn but letting him serve for even a very brief period and what it shows to me is that they are failing to understand the main law of government around here which is this, if you've got something that you think may even potentially be questionable rule number one is to get it out there so people can understand what you're doing and can advice you on whether or not to divest yourself of that particular interest. >> i was listening to jeff zeleny's point and he covered the campaign so closely an
saying general flynn was really a fabric of the team and he didn't receive the strength of the vetting that other candidates did for other positions, is that perhaps part of it and does it excuse it? >> no, it doesn't excuse it but also this is a different situation for mike flynn than someone like carter page, who has shown to have ties to russia. this is michael flynn, he had been there early on someone in donald trump's ear, an inspirational leader on foreign policy who donald trump listened to, so you have to question not only what flynn was doing, but what donald trump was believing as as far as his foreign policy goes. he's president when it comes to turkey, russia because of what michael flynn's relationships were, who was paying him, who he was meeting with at those times so all of those things come into play and one other thing about
sean spicer's reaction to this, glen flush at the time was trying to get past the issue, and say let's not talk about the legal let's talk about the ethical and i find that to be a bit hypocritical in saying no, let's just talk about the legal issues and that's something that the republicans were upset with hillary clinton about being too legalistic. >> he seemed to keep trying to deflect and not the issue which he kept bringing up. >> does the white house believe there's such a thing as the deep state that's actively working to under mine the president? i think there's no question when you have eight years of one party in office that there are people who stay in government affiliated with joined and continue to espouse the agenda of the previous administration, so i don't think it should come at any surprise that there are
people that burrowed into government during eight years of the last administration and may have believed in that agenda and want to continue to seek it. i don't think that should come as a surprise to anyone. >> will the director of the cia or dni have a presidential mandate to seek them out an purge them from the federal government. >> that's not part of the cia's mandate under any circumstances. >> let me start with you, this phrase deep state has been hijacked as a political term i think both on the left and the right. but the origins in deep state is what? >> the basic origins are that it was designed to show case a rogue government within the government. people that would make things work that were following the rules of the intelligence community, whatever those might be and actually running policy without regard to who was being elected either president or as a
member of congress or the senate. there is no such thing as a deep state but someone that has gotten a lot of play but gotten a lot on both the left and the right. >> it certainly has. thank you so much. appreciate all of you very much. we have breaking news. breaking news from capitol hill. the top democrat on the intelligence committee says there's still absolutely no evidence that the obama administration bugged trump tower those details next.
president obama of wiretapping him, one member of congress is still waiting for backing up that claim. what did adam schiff tell you. >> reporter: he's says he's still waiting for evidence to back up the claims, that during the time president obama spied on him. that's the accusation that the president made with that tweet. even after james comey came and briefed top senate and house committee members and still members are looking for answers not just adam schiff but also devin knew n devin nunez. >> reporter: there any evidence to substantiate president obama
spying on him. >> i haven't seen any evidence so substantiate that and when sean spicer even aisn't willing to talk about it it's a an issue. i'm very anxious to know any americans that were either unmasked or any fisa requests that went in, but at this point i don't have any new to tell kbrou. >> reporter: on monday you said you had seen no evidence of wiretapping yet. does that comment still stand? >> yes, same as i toll yd you o monday. >> reporter: earlier this week he said he hasn't seen evidence then and hasn't seen evidence now. what he is doing is sending letters to the intelligence community asking for a bunch of information related to the larger investigation into russia, rush meddling in the
elections and the questions whether there are any improper contacts between the trump campaign, trump associates and people tied to the kremlin, they're hoping to come back next week, ahead of a march 20th hearing which james comey and others will testify in a public setting, an adam schiff saying comey will be ready to answer questions about this. this after hearing he had been privately grumbling, wanting the justice department to knock that down, we'll see if james comey knocks that down when asked about that in that public hearing. >> between that and the neil gorsuch hearings. thank you so much. manu raju on the hill. >> comedian dave chappelle takes the mic at a city council meeting, to speak up about
laid low the last ten years only reemerging to host "saturday night live" and a couple performances but surprise he brought star power in yellow springs ohio to the city council meeting, he talked about an incident, chappelle says he used to know the local police officers by name and today is a lack of community policing. >> i got to be honest the police have been sensitive to my situation. i know at least on two occasions
where they protected my own well being, my personal well being, unsolicited from me, s so i appreciate that. huge gap new years eve. "the new york times" and everything i think you laid the point of the night given the national night and given the culture of our town is like, it is given the tremendous opportunity to be a leader in progressive law enforcement. one of the reasons on the front page of "the new york times" is because their travel editor is a woman i went to school with here in yoellow springs, at that tim we all new officer groeden, officer banner's children and now we're being policed by what feels like an alien force, what i did want to know is what is
this pool of law enforcement that you can pull a chief out of that is special enough to police this town? which is wildly needed, so i would beseech the council to look hard because we've got a golden opportunity. literally could kill the game and this trump here, this is an opportunity to show everybody, the local politics we can make our corner of the world outstanding so i'm begging you to find a kand dhcandidate thats the culture of this town, which is incredible, that's all i'm saying. >> dave chappelle. let's talk to two people in the room, karen win trow and brian how, karen i understand dave chappelle lives in the town, you see him grabbing coffee, no big deal but the fact he showed up, spoke his mind at your city
council meeting, what was your reaction to that? >> i was very happy. i saw dave arrive. he went up into the ball cony o the room an came down and one of our facilitators, he got their attention, so and let them know he did want to speak, so i was really pleased that he did. he obviously brings a great perspective, he is a beloved community member. i want to clarify we're a village, not a city. >> forgive me, village of yellow springs. not city. i stand corrected. let me ask brian to you, what it was like to see him walk in and speak his mind and we've talked about community policing, i think it was an issue that different villages and cities have dealt with. can you talk about more the challenges the you all face there? >> sure, i think one of the
things important to us about local policing is responding to as karen said, that village culture that we have. and i thought it was interesting that dave highlighted that a couple times. some of the challenges that we have are not incredibly different from things we're seeing on a national level. we are certainly trying to work on training and community relations in a strong way. but i do think some of the advantages we have are that we are a creative culture, we're a community of people that are really tight and we want to have a collaborative relationship with our force. >> and the fact that dave chappelle showed up. i know you're a population 4,500 people. quickly for people who have been wondering where dave chappelle has been, what is he up to? >> well, he goes to dino's and gets coffee almost every day, his family are very active
participants in town, kids in school here, so you know, dave is as a citizen just like everyone else and people don't intrude on his space and we're always happy to see him. >> happy friday, happy weekend, thanks for coming on. >> same to you, brooke. >> want to go back to washington and this hypocrisy as president trump is gladly accepting the jobs report but basically dismisses every one of them in the past calling them a hoax or phony or fiction. let's get into that. plate tant, blata plate tant, blata
added more than 235 jobs last month, the unemployment rate down to 4.7%. and celebrating big old victory lab at 1,600 pennsylvania avenue. >> every time it comes out, i hear 5.3% unemployment. that is the biggest joke there is. don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment, the number is probably 28-29, as high as 35, in fact i even heard recently 42%. >> the unemployment gnome numbe you know is totally fiction, if you look for a job six months and give up they consider you statistically employed. it's not that way. >> now let me play you what we heard from the white house
spokesman when asking about this contradiction. >> i talk to the president prior to this and he said to quote him very clearly, they may have been very phony in the past but it's very real now. >> i have economist dianne swamp and kalely ma-- kayleigh mcenan. >> it is bother some given all the phony hoax, fiction we have heard in the past it's totally hypocritical. >> i think what president trump cease is other economic indicators are turning in his direction that weren't turning in president obama's direction. there are reason for businesses will be confident. there are reason for exxonmobil. >> which is what sean spicer said but can i get a yes on the
hypocritical on this? >> no not on hypocritical. i don't think he viewed that as robust a recovery as should have been. >> how does that not chip away though at his credibility. his referring to basically the same number os it w numbers in the past that he laughed off, and now taking credit for it. >> i think he is seeing the trending numbers, that were not there, manufacturing, construction numbers are the highest we have seen for a decade. they were in these numbers not obama numbers, so i think he looks selectively and intricately, and undergirding and seen more from what it had been post world war ii. >> how do you see this, you know the numbers and the context? >> the same people doing the
numbers ten years ago, six years, and 20 years ago are using the same methodology, so the numbers are it's as good a data as we've got and they do it outside of the political conspiracies that we hear about in washington that's nonsense, on a larger scale we ended 2016 on a much stronger note than entered the year, we had a lot of momentum and it reflects people feel better an we have seen things improve to continue, and warmer weather and we are going to see giveback going forward but the trend has been going in the right direction for a long time. we hit a real turning point last year where finally at the end of the year we saw some real traction, that's the most that
the recovery is brauoadening ou but we're timely getting along, it's the longest of the post world war ii period and even though it was about sub par it's about half pace from the expansion of the post world war ii period but we're starting to feel it and we have to celebrate the fact that more people are feeling this expansion. >> i'm listening to you rattle off all of that, and this is great, but kayleigh, isn't it like bad news about him is fake. >> i understand the same people are doing the numbers so i don't think the president was trying to say look, the obama administration was making up numbers. >> but he called them phony in the past. >> because he was looking underneath the numbers. >> i need the interrupt here. underneath the numbers. all the data has always been there, there's always been
measures of the stress factors in the economy, the number of people having to take part time jobs instead of full time jobs all that data is in these reports. they're so rich in terms to have intricacies and complexities and those were left behind if someone had just taken time to explain it to him. we need to give the numbers and data credit for what it does tell us and anyone who spend any time with the report can see the shifts other time for what has happened left behind and those feeling more engaged. we're still not back where we like to be but moving in the right drekts. >> looking at three years from now and see construction jobs were consistently higher than under the obama administration, if we see the confidence indicators 25 million jobs being created if three years from now we can say that i think that will lend credibility to what the president was saying.
female marines violated, four branches are looking into the posting of nude females, among these females predatory language and encouragement of sexual assault who work along side these women. a top commander spoke and says no one has been charged yet. >> if you're participating in this type to have behavior in any way, shape or form, you're not helping me or your marine corps and i would ask you to reconsider your participation in any sort of behavior like this. you know, we claim that being a marine is a special title and something that you earn. there's honor here.
but there is no honor in denigrating a fellow marine in any way, shape or form. >> let's go to a woman who has dealt with situations of sexism, paula broad wewell director of think broader foundation. nice to have you on. >> hi, brooke, great to be with you. >> you helped write this "washington post" and since then you have been hearing a lot from the women. first, what did you make of the commander's response was? >> i think a lot wanted to see his response and the tone, and he's clearly battling with how to deal with this but there was still a tepid response, he needs
so come out and say this is unacceptable, i want to hear the corp.'s leadership take responsibility for the -- that's been taken. >> you want something stronger around is understandable. >> and he says they know of at least ten victims so far wants them to come forward to quote unquote fix the sub culture. you are hearing from all these women of course protecting some what they have told you, can you share some of it with me. >> it's interesting he called it a sub culture, because i would say it is the culture, many of my colleagues, have experienced some sexual harassment or even assault and they are looking to leader shi leadership to make a real change, leadership to hearings
with congress so american public can hold them accountable, i think it takes a deep look at what's going on and really listening to some of these women and i know these women have been writing op eds and why i did it with a fellow marine because we want to be there for the women coming after us and create a safe zone and we'll elevate that discussion to a higher level. >> spare no detail. i think it's worth getting into some of this. what are these women telling you, what is happening? cameras being installed in somehowers at some of the military academies, in some of the cadet barracks. one of the differences is that the leadership took very swift action and those perpetrators
were put in prison. i have heard on unanimous websites where the marines united have moved some of these photographs and they feel that the military is doing enough and the question is is society doing enough. the problem is society. the society has a propensity to object ify women. it is a microcosm of what is going on in america itself. >> what about the commander in chief himself, we saw him recently in norfolk scrambled eggs on his cap, proud, generals in his cabinet, proud there of being the navy post. he's been silent so far. what do you make of his silence on this particular issue and what do you want him to say? >> well, brooke, there have been a lot of leaders who have been silent. i think, you know, on the one
hand to give some credit, they need to do an investigation to make sure there's due process for those who are -- have allegedly been perpetrators of this violence and assault -- promoting assault towards women. on the other hand, i think silence is condoning what's going on. so, i hope that we hear from, again, military leaders, not just the marine corps, but the other services. this isn't unique to the marine corps. i hope we hear from the white house. i'd like to hear from other citizens in the community who have our backs, have women's backs. >> silence is condoning what is going on. paula broadwell, i'm glad you're listening to these women. let's keep the conversation going here. thank you so much. >> thanks, brooke. thank you for giving time to this issue. >> you got it. coming up next a heated exchange in the national security briefing room over michael flynn and his work as a foreign agent. ♪
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of your own. the very first officer to respond to the 2012 sikh temple massacre is sharing how he went beyond the call of duty. a gunman killed six people that day, but somehow lieutenant brian murphy survived being shot 15 times at close range. >> by all accounts, brian murphy should be dead. >> first shot was in the face, second shot was the thumb, shot in the back of the head, right happened, one in the right arm, three in the left hand, three in the left bicep, one in each leg, one in the chest, one in the side, and one in the back. >> his dashcam rolling, murphy was the first officer on the scene as calls poured in from the sikh temple of wisconsin. >> we heard fighting outside. i brought both kids in my hand. i said, let's go. >> she was among 15 women and
children in this pantry fearing death. her husband, the president of the temple, rushed out to warn people he was shot and killed along with five others. the shooter wade page, a white supremacist and army veteran on a mission of hate, was still at it when lieutenant murphy rolled up. that's murphy there, and that is page, gun raised. >> and we both shoot at exactly the same time. >> reporter: what happens? >> i missed. >> reporter: murphy was hit in the face. that's him ducking for cover. it gets worse. >> about halfway through, i'm just get mad. i'm thinking, when are you going to be done shooting me? >> reporter: how are you not dead? >> god kept me around. >> reporter: another officer drives up. >> get the gun! >> reporter: page shoots, hitting the windshield, a gun battle ensues and page kills himself. by then murphy's vest and body are riddled with 15 bullets.
a year later a survivor approached him. >> how many times did you get shot? i said 15. she said, that's right. there was one bullet for every one of us who was inside. >> reporter: the sikh community says, without murphy's sacrifice, the massacre would have been so much worse. >> i know that brian nur if i is a hero. he's a hero to our community, but a much larger community as in the sikh community in america. >> reporter: a community -- >> that is absolutely extraordinary. sara sidner, thank you for sharing that. i'm brooke ball win. have a wonderful weekend. "the lead" starts now. >> thanks, brooke. the numbers he once called fake news, who put that lead in the prompter? "the lead" starts right now. he puts the deal to the test as he talks about replacing obamacare. are they still tonight same page? foreign agent man, the white house says it had no idea that the president's ex-national security advisor was a paid internationa