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this is cnn breaking news. breaking news, new information on president trump's taxes. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. the white house says the president earned more than $150 million in income and paid $38 million in taxes in 2005, that's in response to the leak tonight on the president's 1040. but, while we've all been distracted by this and president trump's wiretapping accusations, what about, what has russia been doing? does vladimir putin have his eye on libya? we'll discuss that. let's get to david k. johnson who broke the trump tax story,
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the author of "the making of donald trump", also jeffrey toobin and norman eisen. it's so good to have all of you on. you guys know, i'm going to spend a hlot of time with david. you're free to jump in at any time. >> he's the real reporter. >> he made $150 million. paid $38 million in taxes. >> didn't pay $38 million. paid $36.5 million. >> how is this not good for donald trump? >> it may be good for donald trump. one of the things that's very strange about this is donald trump would probably benefit from releasing his tax returns with a lot of people. more than $81.5 million a year. that would put him almost in the top 400 tax returns. and why is he hiding his tax returns? well, i think he doesn't want
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us to know other things. what are the sources of income? who is he a partner with? does he have divided loyalties? he has a history of being involved with serious, vicious criminals, convicted felons and in particular a major cocaine trafficker he risked his fortune to show his loyalty to. so maybe there's stuff in nose returns that will tell us about the russians, criminals he's involved with he doesn't want us to see. >> these taxes, these two pages of taxes came under the, someone sent it to you. >> mailed to my home. it came when i was looking at mara l mar-a-lago. i was in palm beach. >> do you think it's strange that he did pay taxes and that that was released? >> i don't know why whoever sent them to me did so, all right? my suspicion is, because i have written a great deal about negative incomes and our failure to pay attention to it, it's one
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of the ways wealthy people get out of paying taxes and much less and the alternative minimum tax, those two pages show that if it wasn't for something called the alternative minimum tax, trump would have been taxed on that $152 million plus at a lower rate than the poorest 50% of americans. >> he wants to get rid of the alternative minimum. >> if we got rid of it, that's what he would have gotten that year. trump's tax returns are around in various places. he's been involved in litigation, regulatory matters where he's had to turn them over. somebody decided i will make good use of it. >> mailed to your home anonymously, you say. >> yep. >> do you think it's possible that he could have sent them to you? >> oh, absolutely. i think donald may have been the source of the three pages that went out last fall, he might have been the source of the sleazy pornography pictures of his wife.
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>> that's you saying it. >> no, no, i think it's entirely possible. donald has a long history of leaking information about himself. and he doesn't think like most of us do. he doesn't have the framework of what makes him look good or look bad that the rest of us have. he's created fake pr people, madonna and kim basinger were pounding on his bedroom door, complete nonsense. >> we had somebody on who wrote a book about donald trump, and said we should look at the fact that there was krienclient copy stamped on those. >> this is a photocopy of what went to donald. there are no signatures because they're electronically filed. so you have a pen that's used to file. you don't literally sign the return. >> do you think it could have been a litigant, someone involved in a --
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>> i mean, i just have no way of knowing. i think it was somebody who believed. >> or him. >> it could have been him. fan and if it wasn't donald or somebody at donald's direction it was somebody who thought it was important that the public see this. and i have been very clear that we should have all of donald's tax returns back to the 1970s. >> he received this anonymously, do you think this is a distraction? >> we don't know for sure that it is, but if i was a betting man, and i am, i would suggest that theis has happened at a vey good time for him to throw in a distraction because his own mess that he made regarding allegations that barack obama had his home basically, his office wiretapped. and we are seeing his signature domestic issue basically fall apart right now on health care. but if i can ask cadavid a quic
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question. we saw the white house push back very hard against rachel maddow. when you said that you had the returns, what was the reaction from them? >> they, like me, wanted to do everything they could to vet them to make sure this wasn't a setup of some kind. that was their overwhelming concern. i've been running since 5:00 this morning, tying down all sorts of little details you're never going to put on the air to make sure we had, consulting with people, checking the numbers. >> you sent them to them. >> i gave them to, well, first of all, they're published d.c. report.org which is a non-profit website i run. >> did you send them to the white house? >> oh, yes, i sent them to sean spicer who did not respond to me. and i made very clear i thought this would be a big story, and i wanted to make sure the white house fully got its story out there about it, and i septembse th -- sent them to the firm. so what we have is donald trump
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releasing tax information when it's convenient. i think it may well have been done as a further distraction. the problem with distraction mode is, donald has so many issues going on here. involving his finances, his relationships with the oligarchs, wilbur ross, the health care plan and the republicans that i don't think distraction is -- >> and i think what's so interesting about the whole tax return issue is how it's evolved over time. during the campaign, a lot of people were curious, well, how much did he give to charity? now much more seriously than how much he gave to charity is where did the money come from? we have this situation, now, where the trump campaign, for whatever reason, was making all these overtures to russia. then, when confronted about it, several people have lied about it. why? what is, is there a financial connection between donald trump
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and russia? >> well, there are. that's indisputable. >> a full tax return would certainly tell us if not everything --? this is -- >> a lot more about that. >> it says nothing about sources. it just gives a nudgmber. >> it also says nothing about interest paid and debt service. >> it would certainly be a crime if someone within the irs took the returns and, and gave them out. but there is certainly nothing unlawful or even improper about david or us broadcasting this. we get, we get it from various sources. if a litigant gave it to us, if someone found it on the street and gave it to us, if a family member gave it to us, that is not illegal on their part. unless there was a protective order in a lawsuit, and it's certainly not illegal on the part of any journalist. >> ambassador, i want to read
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something to you, this is from a former chief of staff on the joint committee on taxation. they responded to the release. he says the release of the top two pages is a useful start but is a drop in the disclosure bucket of what trump own the people. only a complete return can resolve the questions swirling around his alleged financial obligations. the president can and should put these and sim will lilar issues. just as other presidents in the past have done. is he flight. >> -- right? >> he's absolutely right, don. the tax returns have a plethora of information and a bipartisan experts have been calling for their release since the campaign, because of the russia
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and other foreign connections. mr. trump has to file forms about his russian partnerships, if any. he has to reveal who the custodians of their books and records are. russian investors, russian payments. gifts that he might have received, and there's a form after form that would be in the full taxes -- remember, we just have two pages, a single year's, reportedly as much as 12,000 pages long. so i think it's absolutely correct that we need this information. i'm a little less sanguine than jeff in his reading of the tax code. i do think there's some expose i ure here. i congratulate david on his bravery. ultimately, i think a first amendment defense would succeed. >> let's discuss that. i'll keep you guys. we'll be right back. don't go anywhere. pain used to shut me down during pick-up games.
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new information on president trump's taxes. i'm back with my panel. ambassador norman eisen said he believes david k. johnson may have some exposure for putting these tax returns out. david, you say what? >> i don't think there's any exposure at all, because the law, which is well-settled, i
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didn't solicit this. i didn't go to the place where you work with the return and said hey, send it to me. i didn't ask for it. it came to me in the mail. >> you said you teach this. >> no, actually, i teach business and tax law of the ancient world, but i'm not a lawyer, but i teach in a law school. >> that's a class -- >> i teach in the, i promise you, you'd be fascinated. >> and you say. >> david's absolutely right. now there may be that someone broke the law in giving it to him. >> yes. >> if it came from the irs, if it came from someone who gave it, even though a protective order ordered by a judge said no one should disclose this. but david, i don't think, is in any risk at all. >> do you think you're going to get a phone call how you got this? >> we said how we got it, at the
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be wi web z website, which has crashed now. >> what other questions do you have about the president's tax returns? >> well, don, on the point about the exposure, under section 26-13-a-3, it is written very broadly, but i want to be very clear. i think david is protected. david, don't lose any sleep tonight. >> i won't. >> i think you're protected under the bar nitski versus vauper case, number one. so much so that larry tribe and i offered on twitter to defend david if anybody comes after him. and don, in terms of the taxes, this really is the tip of the iceberg. and these taxes are going to  come out. it is a national security matter to understand mr. trump's ties, to verify them. not just to protect his
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assertions, technically whparti the people around him have made so many false ones about russia. and it's not just russia. we've had a lot of very troubling information about financial benefits, trademarks, very valuable trademarks coming into mr. trump as he's changing his china policy, so we want to see what the tax returns say about financial actions there. >> why are you so sure that his tax returns will be released? you said you're sure they'll come out. >> we've seen this time and again in washington. it's like the squeezing of a boa constrictor. the, all of the processes are focussing now, on donald trump's ties with russia, and i don't think you can evaluate those. we've already had the attorney general recuse himself. we're going to hear, supposedly, tomorrow, we may hear the fbi has an investigation. we know that investigations are
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proceeding in the house and the senate. there may very well be a select committee or a joint committee there. we may end up with an independent, what we call a special counsel under the rules. so i think that it's all focussing in at least the russia stuff has got to be looked at. and that is as simple as the relevant committees requesting the returns from the irs. >> jeffrey -- >> it only takes a signature from orrin hatch. >> can i just say, we have spent two years saying about donald trump, he has to do x, this, and, you know, he said this terrible thing about john mccain, he has to drop out of the race, and he said something terrible about megyn kelly. donald trump has operated by different rules all along. >> everyone said he had to release the tax returns after he got the nomination. he became president of the united states without releasing his tax returns. >> congress has subpoena power. and they can get these documents
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if they want them. and the question is, is the pressure building, because, you know, richard nixon. >> it's a republican congress. >> yeah, they're not there yet, i agree. but their interests separate from him, they will turn on him very quickly. let's remember what richard nixon said, people have got to know their president is not a crook. in the case of president trump, we need to know he is not a crook and not divided in his loyalties. >> to the point of congress actually requesting and compelling subpoenaing these documents, i don't think we are going to see that happen, unless it really gets to the point where something comes out from another source that shows that there is, in fact, some kind of connection with russia, otherwise, you're not going to see the committee chairman who has the power to do so. >> i'm out of time, quickly, one last word if you can. >> it's also in the courts, i'm part of a lawsuit, suing mr. trump for his unconstitutional
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foreign government payments and benefits. when we make it to discovery, we're going to request the tax returns. . >> oh, boy, thank you, ambassador, thank you, jeffrey. when we come right back, everybody argues about the president's taxes, are we being distracted from russia? we'll talk about that next. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you.
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>> all of this is doing lots of harm to the future of our relationship. >> reporter: as spring temperatures rise in moscow, the new ice age between the u.s. and moscow is on people's minds. >> i think it's stupid. and it's just a provocation. how can you say all this. usa admits that russia changed their history? i'm just so shocked. how can you say those things? and this woman adds, this is ridiculous and stupid. i think we have nothing to do with it. i'm sure of it. >> reporter: whether it's questions about hotel servers and a russian bank or which associates met with moscow's ambassador during the campaign, russia's mostly state-run media is lashing out at the coverage, especially at cnn's. this is the top pro-kremlin
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pundit and one of his many unfounded allegations. the cia heed tfeeds the russian managhacker stories. it reminds them of their dark paths, like a carnegie historian. >> they were seen as too easy to be contaminated, to be manipulated. each and every time they came into contact with foreigners. i see some of the same things on display in the united states. that's astounding. >> reporter: but russians also realized the current conflict is hurting their chances of improving relations with the west. while some here may ridicule the question the being asked in america about president trump's ties to russia, most people here simply want to see the issue go away.
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they feel their country's being demonized and that it hampering any efforts to repair relations. every new revelation makes those ties more complicated and more toxic, and any effort at bringing them back on track more challenging. fred pleitgen, cnn, moscow. >> let's discuss all of this with the director from the wilson center and major general james marx. and bob fare. matthew, you just heard the reporting. you were recently in russia, what did you find? >> you know, my sense, don, is that this is way worse than russians being uncomfortable with allegations they think are unfounded. you heard the young man say this is unimaginable, that russia as being accused of changing the course of american history. the russian elite, whether you're talking about inside the kremlin, folks like dimitri who
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was interviewed. they see very little difference between republicans and democrats. the comments that then candidate and president trump have made are outliers. basically, they believe democrats and republicans have the same view of russia, which is hostile, at the end of the day, that they're all hostile to vladimir putin, and they're waiting for the other shoe to drop in some sense as mccain suggested, if this concludes that russians intervened to try to effect regime change in the united states, there's a huge risk that the russians will assume this is an extensional fight. that's what they have been afraid about in the last quarter century. this is very serious stuff. >> general, you're not surprised one bit that russia is critical about what's being said about them in the u.s. explain that. >> no, not at all. the concern that i think is very obvious to a guy who wore a uniform all his life is that we have some real opportunities
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here to make a strategy eic decision as to whether we want to compete. we can't give away the crown jewels, but at the same time, we have to find common ground where we can find a confluence of interest. syria is not one of those areas. clearly in eastern ukraine, that is a real opportunity where the united states can exercise some influence and find some common ground fthat gives russia an incentive to back away, but that is very much a tactical fight right now. and in order to break those parties apart, the separatists and russian-backed forces, there have to be sanctions in place, and moscow and putin need to understand, there is a way out that is to their advantage and to ours, but we've got to be able to come forward and exercise that influence. >> bob, i always love your
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perspective. what concerns you the most about the u.s. relationship with russia right now? >> well, i think that we have to look at the possibility there was collusion between the trump campaign and russia at some level. and the fact that these elections may have been influenced by the russians, you know, it's a question of sovereignty. we were under cyber attack. mccain said this, a lot of people said it, and a lot of people in this country wonder what our president's relationship is with russia. you look at all his property holdings, and you see russian connections, his advisers talking to russians, the alpha bank. there was communications between the campaign and so on. this is a classic counter intelligence investigation, and you have to wonder about the president's loyalties. you just have to until they come clean on this, including his tax returns, including his business contacts in russia, and until we clear this up, this will go on for another four, you know, another four years. it does concern me. as a former cia officer, who's
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watched the russians trying to get into our elections. back in the '90s, they were trying to put money in the dnc, i was in the middle of that, and it goes over and over and over gone, and this is a classic, covert action on the united states, and until we get the facts out, it's always going to be a doubt in our minds what's going on here. >> matthew, there have been a lot of distractions when it comes to this administration, what geopolitical moves are russia making now, when you have such constant distraction all the time? >> in this is the problem. it's not only the distraction on having to play defense on anything that has the slightest whiff of anything of russia, is basically blocking the administration from developing a russia policy, and the problem is, look, congress has a certain role to play on foreign policy. quite frankly, the american public at large has a voice on foreign policy. but basically, it's the president and the administration
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that has to do foreign policy. they've got to deter the russians from threatening the united states directly, from threatening our allies, that's hard to achieve when you can't have a direct conversation with the russians, that's hypersensitive. so my advice would be, number one, you know, keep your eye on the prize. the united states for reasons of national security survival, our national interests, we have to have a russia policy, we've got to walk and chew gum, let's conduct whatever investigation we've got to do but compartmentalize it. do it at the same time we develop a russia policy. russia's not like any other country on the planet. in terms of the potential threat they pose. they can destroy life as we know it, if vladimir putin decides to do it with their nuclear arsenal in under an hour, we do not want them with their backs against the wall thinking they're about to be accused of existential
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regime change. their assumption will be that's what's coming towards them. that is going to be our retaliation. we have to communicate with them clearly as we're undertaking the investigation saying we're going to conduct our investigations within this zone. >> that is a sobering assessment, general marx. are we under that big of a threat? >> as matthew indicated, if this is by definition extension, it has all the potential of being and from the perspective of moscow, it is marching down that path. the thing that i take comfort in, as bob indicated, this is a counter, potential counter intelligence operation, it's very classic. the best thing we can do is from our side expose everything we've done, make it completely transparent, so we can push this thing aside immediately. and then also, we have some very senior adults in charge of our national security apparatus. i can't think of a finer group
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of gentlemen in that when they conduct their negotiations and their engagements, they can close the door behind them and say, look, you're dealing with me. despite what the president might tweet, you're dealing with me, and here are the factors that we're going to talk about. these are very serious, very focussed individuals. so i think from that perspective, extension gets a little bit of an air brake release, but it still is out there and needs to be addressed. >> bob, this seems like a long game for putin, because again, as we are distracted back here, some may wonder, are those folks empowered by the white house to do everything he's saying. is this putin's long game? and the second point, are they in power to do that? >> i heard over and over again from within the government and from russians that putin was actually surprised that trump was elected. that his game was never to put him in the white house. he was as surprised as you and i were. and what they really wanted to do by hacking into the dnc and
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hillary clinton and podesta's e-mails is weaken the clinton administration. they were so mad about the ukraine. they were so mad about missile defense, nato expansion and the rest of what they figured at least we'll give her a hard time. we'll let this stuff out through wikileaks. so there are a lot of russians that disagreed with this, the kgb, essentially, and they said this is going to backfire, and what has happened, it has backfired. and it could be a lot worse, and it could be extension at this point, because there's no way our president can talk to russia while this investigation is going on, and these things have a way of going sideways very quickly especially with an autocrat like rputin. how much do steve bannon and kellyanne conway shape the president's agenda?
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how much do we know about president trump's inner circle? and are there fenger prints all over the president's agenda. let's discuss michael bender,
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and also molly ball, political writer for "the atlantic" who interviewed kellyanne conway. you just interviewed steve bannon. do you think breitbart is helping steve bannon push his white house agenda? >> sure. breitbart is built in steve bannon's image. i don't know how much steve is involved in the coverage any more. he says he's not. there have been reports, talking to reporters after stories, but listen, these are people that steve bannon hired for a specific reason, and they're still in maplace doing the job hired them to do. so sure, i think largely, they're helping push the trump agenda. i do think that they're, they're sort of attacks on paul ryan and reince priebus aren't helpful to steve. i think steve likes having reince priebus as chief of staff
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in the white house. i think he does have a lot of respect for him and what, and what reince brings to the table. >> what did you learn about bannon though? >> my reporting on the story is focussed on his upbringing and his father, and, you know, i joked on twitter today that the story essentially confirmed that steve bannon was born of human parents, right? this is a guy that's been characterized as the angel of death on saturday night live. he was in "the new yorker" cartoon as sort of knocking the devil off of trump's shoulder and saying "i'll take it from here." it's a little more complex than that, a little more nuanced. so i spent some time in richmond with steve's dad. he's 95 years old. this is a guy who spent 50 years working for at&t with a high school education. his father spent 48 years at the same company. and what was interesting to me
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is that, you know, steve very much believes in this make america great idea, right, this call back to an era of the 1950s, and kind of the stability of his dad's adult life that steve himself has never had, right? steve was in the navy, he was at goldman, at harvard, he ran biosphere two. he was a hollywood producer. he ran breitbart, a little more chaotic and dramatic than his dad's life. but a lot of the economic nationalism that steve pushes came from his upbringing and the white working class neighborhood he kbru grew up in. >> i want to speak to molly now. bannon credits kellyanne conway for saving then candidate trump for the "access hollywood" tape. bannon says it was conway's calm
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presence that led wavering women and conservative voters to think if she can still support him i can too. you say she was also behind the push for white working class voters. is kellyanne conway why donald trump is president, you think? >> i think there's a very good case to be made that he would not have won the election were it not for her. she was his campaign manager for one thing, at least in that final stretch, the third person to run his campaign, but she also crucially, was part of the intellectual infrastructure of forming the trump sort of populist agenda, particularly on immigration. for 20 years, kellyanne conway has been outside the mainstream of the republican consulting class, arguing that republicans need to talk more about immigration and talk about it as a working people's issue. she has been producing polls for
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a lot of the immigration restriction groups on the right that a lot of the sort of republican establishment would not talk to or considered fringe, but she really believed in this. and bannon told me that he was making a caball a few years ago when he was running breitbart. he described it as a caball, who really believed there was an alternative to the gop autopsy view that you had to pass immigration reform. there was another way entirely, and trump became the vessel for that view, that you could win over, you could galvanize a new segment of the white working class electorate, the same guys mike is talking about, that steve bannon is rooted in as well, that you could get those people to vote by talking particularly about the immigration issue. >> but one wonders now if she is hurting, not the campaign, but the administration, because she makes headlines with these things. you said the word alternative.
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and the thing that came to my head was alternative facts, and the microwave thing. sean spicer responded to that today. watch this. >> does the president believe he was surveilled through microwaves and televisions? >> i'm not going -- i will just say the president has tweeted about this. he's pretty clear that he believes there was surveillance that was conducted during the 2016 election. i'm going to wait for the conclusion of that. i think there's pretty sound evidence that microwave is not a sound way of surveilling someone, and that has been cleaned up. it was made in jest, so i think we can put that to rest. >> he said it was put to rest. it didn't seem like it was a joke at all. but they've been controversial. it doesn't seem to have hurt her within the administration but certainly outside the administration, what do you think? >> there seems to be a new one of these every day, right, she has this incredible ability to get under people's skin, create
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these viesral moments, whether it's an interview, alternative facts, the bowling green massacre. now this microwave thing. she's always making people's heads explode. i think she enjoys trolling people in the way trump himself does. and they have a lot of personality characters in common. to a lot of trump supporters, she's a folk hero, a celebrity, a mascot for what he represents, and her closeness to the president is real. i don't see her going anywhere. but at the same time, she has this incredible ability to infuriate people on the other side, and there's this fascination with her, where i think even a lot of liberals who absolutely deplore her and what she represents still sort of can't take their eyes off of her. >> appreciate your writing for the "atlantic". i wish we had more time, i'll have you both back on. thank you so much, i appreciate it. >> thanks, don.
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can president trump deliver on the campaign promises that won him the white house? joining me is an aide and a contributi contributing columnist for the "washington post." so jack, welcome back. welcome to the show. ron, you wrote an op ed, the wi winning arguments they have. and you say it's all about whether he is failing to deliver. explain that. >> i think there's a lot of noise, what he's not doing i think really is the most important political edge against him. he made a lot of promises about bread and butter issues in the campaign that he'd fix health care immediately after taking office and everyone would have great health care at a fraction of the price, that he'd some jobs moving overseas on day one. that he'd renegotiate trade deals in the first 90 days of his presidency.
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they'd send an infrastructure bill from congress in 90 days. there are a lot of people who voted for trump who really expected help on their kitchen table bread and butter issues, and that's not what president trump is working on, and i think democrats should hold him accountable for that. >> you went through a list of things that you say he hasn't delivered on. in your estimation, there's been a lot of noise. but the recent gallup polls 55% disapproval. polls are, they're a snapshot, but he's losing ground. why do you think that is? >> well, i do think he's hitting the ground running, and i think that time will tell. frankly, the big poll will be four years from now, and it's all going to depend on if he has delivered on these promises, and those promises are jobs and better trade agreement and lower cost health care, more choices and then, and he's taken these
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issues on, and i think ron is right, technically. but the american voters don't think of it that way. they don't worry about 100 days. what they see is that he is trying to make progress on the wall, he's trying to make progress on health care. he has withdrawn from the trade agreement or the negotiations for the trade agreement. he's looking, he's draining the swamp. tax reform's right around the corner as is infrastructure. and his budget rebuilds the military. so he is delivering on all of his promises. but not strictly on 100-day timetable, but the voters understand, he's hitting the ground running. >> yeah, but of course that's what president trump trpromised. he said he'd do them day one. he's breaking promises he made as president.
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he said mid february when he approved the keystone pipeline they'd use only american steel. he said that didn't apply to the pipeline, he changed his promise. >> but as you know, that -- >> that's a reversal of something he said two weeks after he made the promise. >> that's because there were already contracts in place. >> but he shouldn't have made the promise. my point, jack, is, he made a bunch of promises he isn't keeping. the ultimate poll comes two years from now or four years from now. i disagree with jack on that. but what they are going to be judged by, they're not going to send a bill to congress till 2018. that means the project won't start until 2019. >> what about your friend chuck schumer who's doing everything he can to throw a monkey wrench in. he can't even get his cabinet members appointed. >> every cabinet member -- >> executive efforts. >> yeah, executive orders.
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[ speaking simultaneously ] >> hold on, one at a time, one at a time. executive orders are not legislation. >> that's what got the pipeline stopped under president obama and started under president trump. executive orders can get things going. >> creating with russian steel. >> the point is, he promised a lot of action. the democrats are in the minority. the republicans run the show in the house and senate. >> not on confirmations. everything's done in the senate. >> he hasn't even proposed the things he said he would get done. [ talking simultaneously ] >> i'm out of time. we're still dealing, we're in the midst of a lot of that jack. there has been progress, but a lot of things have not happened that he promised. we'll see. we're in the middle of it. we'll see you right back here tomorrow. ce.♪ ♪ so nice, so nice.
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♪ it is the long-awaited trump tax review. the figures from the president's 2005 tax returns leak out. but it leaves many questions and the most critical, who leaked this? and the president now facing health care resistance. can this bill survive as pressure mounts for changes but the house speaker refuses to budge. good morning, thanks for getting an "early start" with us. i'm dave briggs. >> and i'm christine

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