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say there is no evidence. some of the white house budget proposals hitting the needy where it hurts. despite the backlash, the white house standing by its case. and then there's the health care overhaul. a growing number of house republicans oppose the gop health plan. critical moment now for speaker ryan who may have already lost more support he can handle. 21? >> razor thin margin. >> welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. 5:00 a.m. in the east. a back and forth struggle. it was really good. >> press briefing trump the ncaa talk on twitter? >> what a surreal social media moment. #pressbriefing. trending. the white house lashing out on all sides defending president trump's unfounded wiretapping
allegations. a white house press briefing for the ages. christine romans calls epic. sean spicer pushing back who all say there is no evidence president obama ordered a wiretap of the campaign. house speaker paul ryan speaking out. >> we have not seen evidence of a wiretap or fisa court order of trump tower. >> that was paul ryan on cnn after the briefing. ryan backed up by chairman richard burr and marc warner. based on the information available to us, we see no indications that trump tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the government before or after election day 2016. our friend jim acosta was in the line of fire at the white house. here is his report.
>> reporter: dave and christine, the white house is trying to dig in to talk about the baseless claim of the wiretap in the 2016 campaign. at the briefing, sean spicer predicted the president will be vindicated after the committees on capitol hill investigate the matter. here is what he had to say. >> the president said clearly when he referred to wiretapping, he referred to surveillance. >> it sounds like, sean, we don't mean wiretapping anymore. now we will say this other forms of surveillance. what is it next? >> jim, i think that's cute. at the end of the day, we talked about this for three days. what the president quote wiretapping in quotes. he was referring to broad surveillance. we talked about this self day days ago. the investigation by the house and senate has not been provided all of the information. where was the concern -- hold on. no, no. i think the president addressed that last night and said there is more to come.
these are pointing out widespread reporting that throughout the 2016 election there was surveillance that was done on a variety of people that came up. jim, i find it interesting that you somehow believe that you -- okay. i get it. somehow you seem to believe you have all of the information and you have been read in on all of these things which i find interesting. >> reporter: president trump will have another opportunity to soundoff when he holds a conference with angela merkel later on today. dave and christine. thank you. james comey will testify before the house committee on monday. the ranking democrat on the committee telling cnn he expects comey will also say he sees no evidence to support the president's wiretapping claim. >> if the deep cuts in the budget are also hardhearted? >> i don't think so. i think it is probably one of the most compassionate things we
can do with the budget. reallocate the spending as any family or business would do. >> the federal government is not a family and it is not a business. while supporters say it cuts wasteful programs, there is an lots of backlash. meals on wheels. the white house says there is no evidence that meals on wheels works. the program and many independent studies obviously disagree. this started in 1954. it supports 5,000 community organizations. helps 2.4 million seniors get meals and safety checks and visits. they say it is an investment. every dollar you spend there is hundreds and hundreds of dollars you are not spending in an emergency room if the person slips and falls. another move with push back is the cut to the national institute of health. a 20% budget reduction. american medical association says this. we have grave concerns of the
deep cuts to the nih and impact on patient health. it conducts vital research of cancer and vital diseases which are drivers of health care costs. the bill to replace obamacare hanging in the balance with the growing number of republicans voicing opposition to the plan. house speaker paul ryan clinging to hope his measure will surv e survive. he cannot afford to lose support from more than 21 republicans. right now exactly 21 republicans have gone on record to oppose the measure or leaning against it. president trump sounding hopeful. tweeting great progress on health care. improvements made. republicans coming together. >> let's bring in greg valliere. a friend of the show. he has been with us this whole trump ride. here we go with health care. the president tweeting support for it. paul ryan two days in a row on cnn praising the president for
leadership. saying they are working together. are you concerned about the health care overhaul that it won't make it? if it doesn't, what does that mean for the agenda? >> first of all, i'm half irish and do not own a green tie. i apologize. >> come on, greg. >> i think this wiretapping story is now starting to me t metabolize in other issues. now they can criticize him on obamacare and on the budget which is dead on arrival. i think all of a sudden people who are scared to take him on in his party feel they can. >> you have the wiretapping allegations. you have the health care struggle. of course, the travel ban which was shot down by two federal judges. how desperate do you feel the president is for a win? any win? a man who is consumed and obsessed by that word winning?
>> i think they will have really good gorsuch hearings. i think that is a plus. i don't rule them out winning in the white house. the paul ryan bill will be close. the senate fight is a tougher fight. he may get a win or two. critics are out in force in his own party. >> let's talk about the sean spicer press briefing yesterday. you watched these for years. never can i remember, except in the run-up to the war in iraq, do i remember being appointment viewing of the press secretary and the press secretary being a household name. listen. >> you are mischaracterizing what happened today. where was your passion and concern when they all said there was no connection could russia? where was it then? crickets from you guys. i'm trying to answer your question, jonathan, if you can calm down.
jonathan, you can ask and you can follow-up. i know you want to cherry pick it. you do. where was your concern about the new york times report? how do you know it has been looked at? hold on. jim, i think that's cute. at the end of the day, we talked about this for three or four days. >> zones spicer does own a green tie, by the way. a lot of green ties in washington yesterday. this is the administration that will try to do tax reform and infrastructure spending. they put infrastructure out of the budget because they are confident they can do it well and better later on. what do you make of this relationship here? >> it's really toxic. i don't think it will change. i think "saturday night live" will go daily. the criticism and drum beat will continue. i was stunned by the reaction to the trump budget. republican after republican said no. we're not going to cut nih. we're not going to cut meals on wheels. he will get defense increases,
but i think a lot of the budget which maybe pleased his base is dead among republicans right now. >> that meals on wheels cut really resonated online and social media yesterday with people picking it apart. here is budget director mick mulvaney explaining and justifying the cut. >> you can't spend money on programs because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. a state decision to fund that particular portion. take the federal money to give it to the states and say we give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. >> congress handles budgets. what does this tell you about president trump's issues? >> he cuts domestic spending. he would not touch social security and medicare. he didn't. i give him credit for keeping
promises. the problem is the budget writers in both houses are republicans who don't like this. >> greg, he did not keep the promise to get rid of the national debt in eight years. he would balance a budget. he knows thousand do that. he knows that better than anybody else. he can mix can fix it and make happen. people on the left are horrified by what this says. people on the right are saying this is the big pile of money. >> this is one reason to bring it back to the markets which i follow. one of the reasons interest rates are going up because the deficit is going up. nothing in the budget that will significantly reduce the deficit. >> hard choices. nobody makes the hard choices yet. you think there are hard choices in this budget? wait until we have to get rid of the deficit. and i want to talk about the white house later today. the meeting with trump and
angela merkel. how crucial is that for our standing and relationship in the world? >> i think germany feels isolated now. he has been critical of her. she has been criticized for being too generous with immigrants. it could be one of the testier meetings. the differences between trump and merkel are significant. >> i have been told she is reviewing his speeches and watching interviews trying to get a sense of what it is mr. trump represents. >> what is the common ground you think they find? u.n., nato, refugees? what is the common ground they find? >> i think fighting terrorism. they will probably talk about that. i think on many other issues, economic issues and defense of western europe. donald trump would like to push that into the self reliance
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>> reporter: it certainly is. the u.s. is looking for a lot from north korea. they are willing to give anything in advance of that. this is the time to sit down for talks and north korea is not at that place. they ratcheted up the missile defense program. ratcheted up nuclear ambitions. the secretary of state at the dmz. the border between north korea and south korea to get very close to the threat. he returned to seoul to say the north korean threat is no longer a regional concern. it say conceis a concern for th. kim jong-un is working to test a ballistic missile capable of carrying a nuclear-tipped warhead all the way to the united states. it is threats like that, dave, that prompted the secretary of state to say the patience ascended. the u.s. and allies will look for a new and different approach to dealing with north korea.
20 years of diplomacy amounted to failed efforts. what exactly is the approach? the secretary of state hasn't specifically outlined the elements. he came here today and say it would include diplomatic and security and economic measures. i had a chance to ask a question of at what point is a military option on the table given the threat of retaliation that could impact 20 million people that live in the seoul area. he said a military option would be on the table if north korea took action that threatened south koreans or u.s. troops that are stationed here. or accelerated the nuclear program to cause the u.s. to consider that possibility. dave. >> fascinating trip. it will continue in china. 18 minutes past the hour this morning. for the first time, northwestern reached the big dance. for the first game for the
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you are mischaracterizing what happened today. where was your passion and concern when they said there was no connection to russia. >> a press briefing for the ages. a combative white house defends the wiretapping claims despite the bipartisan members of the senate intelligence committee say there is no evidence. some in the budget proposals hitting the needy where it hurts. despite the backlash, the white house standing by its case. and then there is the health
care overhaul. a growing number of gop members oppose the plan. speaker ryan already lost more support than he can handle to pass the bill. welcome back to "early start." i'm dave briggs. enough green for both of us. >> i have a green pen. i'm christine romans. a lot of news. white house lashing out defending president trump's unfounded wiretapping accusati n accusatio accusations. this is the most combative stance we have seen. you had to see it to believe it. press secretary sean spicer pushing back hard quoting the white house speaker and congressional intelligence quoting and all of the others quoting no claims of a wiretapping. >> we have not seen any evidence there was a wiretap or fisa court order against trump tower.
>> ryan backed up by chairman richard burr and the democrat on the committee mark warner. we see no indications the trump tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the united states government either before or after election day 2016. cnn's jim acosta was in the line of fire at the white house. >> reporter: dave and christine, the white house digging in trying to explain the claim that president obama wiretapped him during the 2016 campaign. press secretary sean spicer predicted the president will be vindicated after the committees on capitol hill investigate the matter. >> the president has already said clearly when he referred to wiretapping, he was referring to surveillance. >> it sounds like, sean, we don't mean wiretapping anymore. that is not true. now we have other forms of surveillance. what will it be next?
>> jim, i think that's cute. at the end of the day, we talked about this for three days days. the president referring to broad surveillance. you are going back. we talked about this. the investigation by the house and senate has not been provided all of the information. when it does -- hold on. >> reports not evidence -- >> the president addressed that last night and said there is mo more to come. this is pointing out widespread reporting throughout the 2016 election, surveillance done on a variety of people that came up. >> the investigation -- >> jim, i find it interesting you believe -- >> looking at these various things. >> i get it. somehow you seem to believe you have all of the information and you have been read in on all of these things which i find interesting. >> reporter: president trump will have a chance to sound off with the conference with angela merkel later today. dave and christine. >> we admire you, jim.
fbi director james comey will testify monday. the ranking democrat on the committee telling cnn he expects comey to say he sees no evidence to support the wiretapping claim. the white house budget blueprint is the campaign promises turned into numbers. some of what is in the wish list goes against the president's agenda. let me give you examples. in the inauguration, the forgotten men and women will be forgotten no longer. cuts to programs to meals on wheels and funding of rural airports could hit those who put him in office. president trump wants to spend big on infrastructure, but there are cuts to the transportation department. third, trump champion innovation in science to find miracle cures, but slashing $6 billion from the national institute of
health. he cuts from the environmental protection agency and department of health and human services. there are cuts to the new york city police department. it gets federal funding for counterterrorism. the commissioner says nearly all of that will disappear. for all of the funding and programs the budget slashes, the administration says it is out dated or ineffective. no question, there is waste and redundancy in government. advocates for the poor and science and doctor groups are out spoken here if this budget is put in place. a growing number of republicans voicing opposition to the plan. house speaker paul ryan cannot afford to lose support from more than 21 republicans. right now, exactly 21 republicans have gone on record opposing the measure or leaning against it. president trump still sounding
hopeful tweeting great progress on health care. improvements being made. republicans coming together. let's bring in greg valliere. chief strategist for horizon investme investments. what improvements are made in the bill? >> something gentler on medicaid. the improvements to me are not sufficient to get this bill passed. it needs a lot more work. they have to go back to the drawing board. if it fails in the next few days, then i think the whole thing gets rewritten. >> what does it say about the president's legislative agenda if he has trouble with this? >> it does not bode well for the budget cuts you mentioned earlier. it was really eye opening yesterday to see how many republicans said we're not going to go along with this. we will not go along for cuts to housing or cuts to meals on
wheels or national insurance du institute of health. >> the cuts come to fund build up in military and v.a. and law enforcement. nothing for the deficit. nothing for the national debt. which donald trump promised he would get rid of in eight years. >> that can't happen. i give trump some credit because he promised during the campaign he would not cut medicare and social security. he did not in this budget. unless you are willing to take on those entitlements, you never get close to a balanced budget. >> some cuts, not just ripe for congressional democrats, but late night comedians. here is seth meyer's take. >> meals on wheels? meals on wheels? how dead inside do you have to be to not want old people to get food? you're heart is so small, it makes your tiny hands look like catcher mitts. there is no more low than lying to the elderly.
you should know that. don't you hate it when people lie to you and say i'll try to make it next week. >> look. late night comedians are in their glory day right now. largely, in terms of the narrative, once this gets to congress, how will the priorities be followed or completely changed once they produce their budget? >> everyone from marco rubio on said in the last 24 hours, they will write the budget and make it their own. you have to say meals on wheels could become the metaphor for bad branding. here is the genius at branding and he cuts meals on wheels? in the reagan administration, they tried to label catketchup a vegetable. some things are innocuous and become symbolic. he will suffer defeat on that. meanwhile, guys, the story the markets care about. tax reform. nowhere to be seen.
>> i was hearing whispering of corporate tax reform first and then do middle class later. that would be difficult. that would look like a give away to banks and rich people. >> the optics don't look good. committees will move on tax reform. the markets were hoping for something this year. you have to push back the timetable into 2018. >> does the entire agenda, including tax cuts depend solely on getting through health care first? >> to a large extent. as i have pointed out for the last few weeks, how ironic is this? eight years ago, president obama wasted political capital on obamacare. not focus on jobs. eight years later, another president bogged down by health care. >> 1/5th of the economy. let's talk about sean spicer in the press briefing yesterday. rarely in my career covering the
white house have i seen a press secretary at the briefing be appointment viewing. in particular, he had a long list of where the president was getting information to come up with the claims about surveillance. listen. >> the new york times reported the following, sean hannity. andy mccarthy. >> he was trying to really show where the president got all of this information and show it was out there. people were reporting and writing about this. what does it say to you about the president of the united states who has access to this information about how he is making decisions and opinions? >> what's the old adage? when you are in a hole, stop digging. they keep digging into a deeper hole. we discussed earlier, the story here is the republicans, when they see stuff like this, attack trump with impunity. they are running away from him.
he is losing support because of the wiretapping story. because of that, they can leave him with impunity on the budget and obamacare and taxes. >> it is amazing. he said to fox news, he would not be president out twitter. it is twitter that is undermining his agenda right now. >> i go around the country. i see investors who like him. they see things they feel are good about him. to a person, they all say to me, i wish he would stop tweeting. >> greg, nice to see you. have a great weekend. >> happy st. patrick's day. secretary of state rex tillerson in south korea today among rising tensions with north korea. tillerson now saying all options on the table. we go live to seoul next. disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain... but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor... t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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asia. tillerson sending a message the trump administration is abandoning diplomatic efforts to talk north korea out of a nuclear confrontation. secretary says after two decades of trying, it is time for a new approach. for more on that, let's go to seoul and bring in alexandra field. you have been at a press briefing with secretary tillerson. what did he say? >> reporter: that's right, christine. we got to ask the question after he has been saying for the last two days that 20 years of diplomacy has failed and it is a new approach for handling. that does that mean? he said there are a number of steps taken before that. nobody wants to see military conflict. he said military option does remain on the table in the event that north korea does something to threaten south koreans or u.s. forces based here. if they elevate the weapons program, that is the only course
of option. he said there are other avenues like a mix of economic and security and diplomatic measures. this is part of the trip that the secretary went this morning to the dmz. it is where you most clearly feel the threat from north korea. they accelerated the development of the missiles and kim jong-un declared he is ready to test an intercontinental ballistic missile some point this year. that is one reason why secretary of state rex tillerson came here to say security threats are no longer a regional concern. this is a concern for the u.s. with that, the u.s. and south korean officials are continuing to move forward with a missile defense system that china objected to. secretary tillerson will continue to asia with a visit to beijing tomorrow to express the importance of what he feels that system represents. he is asking china to stop
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the defining moment for u.s. and german relations as president trump hosting angela merkel at the white house today. the first meeting since mr. trump ridiculed the chancellor on the campaign trail accusing her of quote ruining germany. we have cnn's atika shubert live from berlin. what is the reception? >> reporter: a lot of people here are cautious and wary, especially given some of the chaos of the first days of the administration. what merkel is trying to do is reset the relationship. it has gotten off to a rocky start. we heard the comments from trump during the campaign. merkel in a phone call with president trump after the inaugurain inaugurati inaugurati inauguration, said the travel
ban was wrong and in violation of international law. merkel has been studying up. she is known for being very quietly persistent studying an issue and taking decisive action. in this case, she has sent a number of people to speak to steve bannon. and she is studying trump to see what is going on in the mind of trump and what makes the trump administration tick. she is bringing a number of ceos from bmw to try to establish common ground on trade. this may be an issue they may hope to work together on and see if they can find some start to a good working relationship. >> the words and body language. we can't wait for the meeting. thank you. the seattle federal judge who temporarily blocked the
first travel ban has declined to extetend the order to the secon. judge james robart's ruling makes no difference because two other judges have blocked the travel ban for now. press secretary sean spicer says the administration plans to appeal the rulings. i ing. >> the danger is real. the law is clear. the president is elected to change the broken immigration system. he will continue to exercise the constitutional authority to protect our nation. >> interesting day at the white house. winter won't let go. another blast of cold and snowy weather up to the northeast. let's turn to meteorologist derek van dam. >> good morning, dave and christine. after this week's nor'easter, nearly 100% of new england is
blanketed with snowfall. at the moment, large coverage area of the fresh fallen white layer of snow covering the ground. that storm system is long gone. we focus attention on a weak clipper system to drop across the northern great lakes. check this out. west michigan in parts of wisconsin and into eastern minnesota. we have winter weather advisories in place this morning through the afternoon hours and all thanks to the system pushing through. snowfall from grand rapids to detroit. this system moves east as one would expect. some of the snowshowers will impact pennsylvania and parts of new york into saturday. we have cold weather across the deep south. freeze warnings from the ohio river valley to the panhandle of florida. check out the temperatures. below average from d.c. to the big apple. thank you. here is your money. stocks in europe and asia mixed.
market edging lower yesterday. led by health care stocks. investors did not like the cuts to research and science programs. mortgage rates moving up to the highest level this year after the fed hiked rates. national average for a 30-year fixed is 4.3%. gradual increase in rates, but expect the national average to stay below 5%. high mortgage rates mean money out of your pocket. when interest rates rise .25%, it is how much it costs. for $200,000, it is $29 more a month. for a $500,000 jumbo loan, it is $73 more a month. one of the hottest ipos soaring. canada goose is the maker of pricey jackets and parkas. they cost $800 a piece. the stock soaring the first day of trading. investors like this company
combo of rugged looks and prices. animal rights groups, peta protested outside the new york stock exchange. it is trimmed with real fur and real down which say causes pain and suffering to animals. the group says it plans to buy shares of canada goose to become an activist investor. >> what does peta like? >> not real fur. >> that is not stopping. you know where you donate? mar-a-lago. >> this is true. where they can afford. the president is headed back there. >> i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. "new day" starts right now. first of all, he stands by it. he was clear about that. >> when i say wiretap, those were in quotes. >> you are saying we don't know wiretap.
that's not true. >> i have not seen any evidence this occurred. >> let's see if i prove it. >> the director will be asked to respond directly. >> this budget reallocates spending. >> i can't see how this budget can survive the light of day. >> meals on wheels sounds great. we can't spend money on programs because they sound good. >> that's not my plan. i would never vote to cut one dollar. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> all right. welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." friday, march 17th. 6:00 here in new york. alisyn is off. poppy harlow is here. >> good morning. >> a lot of news. the white house standing by president trump's unproven claim. that's more unproven than ever now that the idea that trump tower or that president trump was wiretapped by president obama. that was the notion he put out
there. no one has backed it up. his press secretary sean spicer was angry defending the president. again, despite intelligence officials and congressional leaders from both parties he faces growing resistance on a number of fronts from republican law makers blasting his budget for proposing cuts to programs that many in his base rely on. also the plan could sink as more republicans say they are against it. we're now in day 57 of the trump presidency. let's begin this morning with joe johns at the white house. good morning. >> good morning. this administration appears to be in crisis mode on multiple fronts with members of the president's own party flatly contradicting his wiretapping claims. some other members of