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7:00 a.m. on the west coast. >> a significant week ahead for the trump administration starting monday the russia intel hearings where top intel chiefs will be testifying followed by supreme court nominee neil gorsuch's confirmation hearing. also republican leaders planning a vote thursday to repeal and replace obamacare. mike pence by the way is in florida today pushing that new plan. >> plus right now secretary of state rex tillerson is in china where nuclear north korea continues to dominate the discussion. take a listen. >> we also exchange views and i think we share a common view in a sense that tensions on the peninsula are quite high right now and that things have reached a rather dangerous level. >> covering this all from all angles we want to bring in our power pack political panel. ryan noble, rebaecca burg.
thank you all so much for taking the time to be with us here. ryan, i'd like to start with you. i want to look at where things stand. where w what is the status with the president and angela merkel after their meeting yesterday? >> it was certainly an awkward meeting. the body language was a b uncomfortable never more than during the press conference when trump was pushed by a german reporter about his accusations that obama wire tapped trump tower. take a look at how he responded. >> as far as wire tapping i guess by this past administration, at least we have something in common perhaps. >> certainly an uncomfortable moment there as the president alluding to the fact that wick
key leak revealed during the obama administration that the u.s. government was spying on merkel at that time. now, this all sets the stamg ger what is expected to be an explosive hearing in the house intelligence committee on monday morning where fbi director and mike rogers will appear before that panel and discussion the alleged allegation that russia was attempting to intervene in the united states election. you bet that the topic of whether or not the obama administration attempted to wire tap trump tower will come up. at this point still no evidence to back up that claim. >> and we talk about anything that's coming up on monday. where do you think the spotlight will shine brightest on monday? >> well, obviously, there's going to be so much attention given to this house intel committee investigation and it is hearing, but you can bet the trump administration is going to want direct attention to the confirmation hearings of neil gorsuch, their in this case for the supreme court. this is something the trump
administration believes is a big win for them. they believe that gorsuch is a qualified candidate and someone that will please all of the different factions that support this administration. the gorsuch hearings could get tough. there are some senate democrats in particular that are going to raise serious questions about his background, but ultimately, the administration believes they've got the votes to get him on the bench. they're going to want a lot of attention paid to gorsuch because they believe he will perform well during these hearings. >> all right. ryan noble, appreciate it so much. thank you. >> thank you. >> that was a good time to go to rebecca burg and david. big day, monday, first public congressional hearing on russian meddling in the u.s. election. fbi director james comey will be there and i'm wondering, rebecca, what do you expect to hear? >> certainly we have already heard consensus from intel leaders on the house and senate panels of both parties that the president's claim that he was wire tapped either by the u.s.
government, the u.s. president, or others, for example, the british intelligence which he mentioned, is just not correct. it's just not true. so that has been kind of resolved. but we have many more questions still to be answered. what was the extent of communications between trump allies and the russians during the campaign? we saw some news break, new documents revealing that flynn was paid by the russians on a number of issues and i think we're going to see many more revelations potentially in that vein, what were the connections between not only donald trump, but some of his close advisers and allies and the russians. we might get answers some some question, not all of them. we might see more questions raised. >> david, are you expecting some new revelation, a bombshell? >> i'm not. from the leaks that we've seen, the reports that we've seen about this investigation, certainly it seems to be in finding greater contacts between some outer members of trump's circle and the rugs.
i don't expect it to produce anything sort of silver bullet where we say wow, this makes us see this in a whole new light. nothing sort of world changing. >> let's move on to the supreme court nominee neil gorsuch. he's got a hearing. david, do you expect it's going to be smooth sailing or as some have suggested, there could be something that jumps out and causes controversy? >> i don't think looking at neil gorsuch's background, reading about him there will be anything coming out of his background that will be disruptive to his chances. i think he has the votes to be confirmed. the things i'm interested in is seeing the questions and what he does to dodge them about president trump's travel ban. it seems pretty clear it's going to end up in the supreme court some day when gorsuch on the bench. i'm curious so see what
republicans say in their statements to defend the travel ban. >> isn't that one of the ways he could get out of commenting is to say if i'm likely on the supreme court i'm going to have to rule on this so i'm not going to tell you what i'm doing? >> absolutely and this is what we've seen from him in meetings with saerenators. he's had 72 sit downs with senators. we've heard him address this sort of obliquely. i'm not taking a stand on this. but he has emphasized a role he feels the judiciary needs to play as an independent check on the executive. i think we will hear him emphasize that more broadly in these hearings. that i think is going to be something democrats will be looking for in particular because you have a democratic base right now that is so energized against donald trump, they want to hear from gorsuch that he will be willing to stand up to donald trump or broadly any executive, any president or executive agency that oversteps
their government powers and i think he probably will be emphasizing that in these hearings. >> let's move on to health care, the vote to repeal and replace obamacare, at least in the house is going to be on thursday. not everybody, including many republicans, are not necessarily on board. so rebecca, do you see it passing? >> well, it's going to be very tight in the house i think. they do have the votes scheduled, so that's usually a positive sign that they think they do have the votes. but it's going to come down to the wire. then even if it does pass the house, we have this question mark over on senate side. are they going to make substantial changes and then pass the bill which would then move this to a conference scenario? or does it get held up completely in the senate? so even if this does pass the house this week, and that's still a big if, then there is very much still a question mark about where this bill goes from there. >> david real quick, final say, once it gets to the senate, do g you think it could just slow down? >> it certainly will slow down.
everything slows down in the senate. the house sort of committed this super fast strategy kind of in the hopes that they can -- by saying you're voting for obamacare, this is your only chance to repeal obamacare. the senate doesn't really work that way. there's a lot more -- it it will slow down and might in fact stop. >> rebecca, david, thank you both. >> following new developments this morning out of france, authorities say the man shot dead at a paris airport after grabbing a soldier's gun overnight was wanted for a shootout just hours before at a police check point. the suspect was known by intelligence services and investigators aren't ruling out terror as a motive here, but the paris prosecutor tells cnn his father and brother are being questioned right now. well, secretary of state rex
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parts. here's the thing. you're right. north korea very much top of the agenda. the united states and china agree that they don't want a nuclear threat in north korea. they disagree on how best to approach this moving forward. china says it's direct negotiation between the united states and north korea that will eventually solve this crisis. the united states hasn't totally ruled that out but the u.s. says that china needs to be more. you have president trump weighing in within the last 24 hours or so with a tweet saying china has done little to help the situation. during press availability with the secretary of state, the secretary of state did not reference that tweet at all, but he did speak generally about his meeting with china's foreign minister. >> foreign minister wang affirmed again china's longstanding policy of a denuclearized korean peninsula. we also exchanged views and i
think we share a common view in a sense that tensions on the peninsula are quite high right now and that things have reached a rather dangerous level. and we've committed ourselves to do everything we can to prevent any type of conflict from breaking out. >> now, the trump administration has said that it wants to chart a new path on north korean policy. however, they haven't laid out any specifics as to how they're going to differ in their approach from the obama administration or the bush administration or even the clinton administration. one other thing the meeting planned tentatively scheduled for next month. we know the secretary of state will be meeting with the chinese president early tomorrow morning here in beijing before he heads to the united states. >> matt rivers, thank you so much. lts let's go to retired colonel, former defense intelligence agency officer. thank you for being with us.
the president tweeted this over the last 24 hours. north korea is behaving very badly. they've been playing the united states for years. china has done little to help. what does a tweet like that do to the strive that secretary tellerson may be trying to make with china? >> i think it puts the chinese on notice we're expecting them to take action with north korea. we believe the key to denuclearized korean peninsula is china. they can be the ones to exert the most pressure on north korea. are they going to extract a price for that? i think they're looking at certain things. secretary tillerson, secretary mattis, we've got lots of things, we can give the chinese that they want. they would like us to cut down on the number of exercises we have with south korea. they would like more american acquiesceens on the freedom of
navigation, none of which we're willing to gave. we're kind of at a stalemate what what we can do. we're headed to this confrontation on how we're going to handle this. we see this every time there's a new administration. the chinese do something to bring a chris risis to the fore and watch how the zraadministran handles it. right now it doesn't appear the chinese want to give anything. >> let's talk about -- missile defense system t.'s purely a defense system as i understand it, based on everything i read. is it truly a threat to china as they seem to say, or is there something more political present here? >> well, it's both political. of course they're going to want us not to bring any improvement to the capabilities in south korea, but if you look at the system, it is purely defensive, but it's significantly upgrades
the defensive capability. if you look at not so much the missile itself, but the system that goes with it, it gives us a much more comprehensive picture of what's going on in not only north korea but parts of china as well and the chinese don't want that in their back yard. they prefer it when it's much further away. yes, the defensive, but it does represent a margin of some of their unique capabilities. >> dow think there's any way tillerson can sell the idea to china? >> you know, i think this is one of those points that we may not budge on. we've already thrown down kind of the marker by saying we're going to deploy this system. of course, we have to be very careful. i thought secretary tillerson was approaching the line when he said military force may be in the offing or it may be consideration, it may be on the table. the problem with make statements like that is if your bluff is called, you're actually got to go through with the threat.
we've seen that in the past. we go back to what happened with the red line in syria. when you draw these lines, you have to mean them. >> right. right. and lastly, before i let you go, the policy of strategic patience has ended. this was a line from tillerson earlier this week that had a lot of people talking. if the patience has ended, what is the next step? what is the replacement for that? >> that's the -- where you go from strategic patience to preemptive strike, there's a whole range of things that have to happen. hopefully somewhere on that continuium we'll come eye to eye with the chinese because i still maintain that the chinese can put more pressure on north korea than anything we can do. >> colonel, always appreciate your perspective. thank you for taking the time to be here. >> good to be with you. >> coming up we go live -- >> sorry about that, matt. i thought i thanked him already. >> coming up we're going to go live to moscow.
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saying james comey have not been cooperating. multiple agencies investigating links between russia and the trump campaign. early today i spoke to a former kgb agent who was found to be spying on the u.s. in the cold war. that was until the fbi caught him. now he has written a book. here's what he had to say on russian hacking and what the country is really trying to do. take a listen. >> i honestly don't buy into the intrigue. what i would buy into in a big way is the russians trying to create chaos in this country, trying to destabilize this country and in that matter they pretty much succeeded because what we're doing, now we're throwing bombs at each other. >> should we be roirworried as
nation? no. what we should be worried about is cyber warfare. cyber warfare is the mod ern -- this is pretty much cold war 2.0. >> russia would be willing to launch cyber wear far? >> not just russia. others. and the potential for damage is phenomenal. you can possibly contaminate a whole country if you hack the right systems. i have a background in information technology besides having been a spy and i know a bit about that. this is much more dangerous. the political wrangling back and forth i don't like it, it shouldn't be done, but that's a fact. but i think the danger is really for us to not focus on the real issue which is cyber warfare. >> you think we're being
distracted? >> yes, we are. >> intentionally so? >> yes we are. >> he also said another way to try to unleash chaos is feed information or fake news to the meed yach media. joining me now is nick walsh. i wonder how are russians reacting between this country and the u.s. president? >> reporter: most russians on a street level mostly have what state sponsored news is willing to provide for them. also to the kremlin's official position to see how this goes around the country. from the spokes person what he heard was continued sort of distance they had saying come these hearings on monday james comey, they won't be watching. they're, quote, too busy. they don't expect any new
details to emerge and the quite colorful language saying this is a broken record. they're hearing the same accusation again and again but it doesn't appear to correspond to present reality. but this has been a complicated issue for moscow. while potentially you might see it is helpful for their desire to be a big player on the world stage, to reestablish that old soviet union that vladimir putin is so nostalgic for, at the same time saying they potentially had a hand in interfering. at the same time it's put donald trump in a bit of a difficult position as well. because while his statements many see have been often quite reticent to criticize vladimir putin, he's also now facing those accusations of collusion to the point where if he came up with a policy where he was frepd friendly to -- he might say the net result is to push donald trump from a pro russian position to being on its guard
now to be sure he's not seen as doing so much at all of the kremlin's bidding. a complicated place for russia to be. at times you see them using the word hysteria. now doubt russia is meddling in all sorts here, and of course the border accusation that they had a hand in trying to interfere in getting donald trump into the white house. >> i bet they will actually watch those hearings, but that's just my thought. nick, thank you very much. still to come, harsh back lack as the republican health care bill proposes to cut medica medicaid expansion. our next guest voted for president trump, but he feels he is breaking a key campaign promise when it comes to health care. you'll hear it from him himself in just a moment. >> plus the president's credibility is on the line after his words apparently start to catch with up him.
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obamacare. gop leaders plan a vote on that bill next thursday. despite growing opposition, within their own party, one issue of concern, the roll back of medicaid expansion. congressman charlie dance, a republican who has his own reservations about the bill spoke with us earlier. he was concerned about some of the financial concerns. >> i've also received a letter from the governor, governor kasich and sandoval and snyder recently sent a letter expressing their concerns with medicaid component. there's not enough flexibility to the states right now. >> well, the roll back is receiving some backlash from mental health and eviction advocates as well. in facts the plan drops a treatment mandate that services millions of people suffering with addictions in this country. so there are some folks concerned about that as well. one of which is the founder of win ward way recovery, jamie broderick. he joins us now.
jeremy, thank you so much for being with us. i want to talk about your recent huffing ton post. you said there the gop replacement seems worse than obamacare, the needed protection for people who struggle with addiction, among them my clients, my friends, my loved ones and myself is not there. what element, jeremy, is missing from this? >> well, good morning, and thanks for having meech. obviously this is an extremely important issue. this is an issue that is not necessarily about the right and the left but it's more or less are you right or wrong on this issue. i think everyone across party lines should be on the right side of this issue. and that is supporting, you know, recovery advocacy and substance use treatment and the expansion of that. and the thing is in this, you know, obviously it's in the finer print which i wish that being that this is the number one public health crisis right
now, i wish that this was bold and drawn out where a layman such as myself wouldn't have to struggle reading through this legislation to find out what's in it. there is a mandate that in 2019, some of this mandated substance abuse and mental health services will be lifted. that's one of the things that obviously we want to make sure for all the constituents of both republican and democrats, during this segment, probably someone will die from an overdose in the united states of america. 129 people fall victim to addiction and overdoses every year -- every day. >> the medicaid porgds portion of this is what you're so concerned about because did's vital to people with addiction. >> yes. medicaid. as goes medicaid goes a lot of other health care bills in this country. it's all kind of tied together. one of the things that we'd like to see obviously, there's an
immense amount of cost, you know, involved, the cost in society runs upwards of $442 billion a year. the addiction costs. those are in additional health care costs, loss productivity with the work force. and also the additional criminal justice. and so there is a way that i think that a lot of money and resources needs to be put towards this and for every dollar spent on treatment it saves $4 on health care. for every dollar put toward an intervention or early prevention education saves $58 in future health care costs. what i want to do is reach out to president trump, bring us to the table, bring the industry professionals to the table, the people on the front lines. bring us to the table similar to how you brought the auto manufacturers, how you brought union leaders, how you brought the tech leaders. bring the health care providers and the people on the front
lines fighting this epidemic. bring us to the table. >> you i know are going to be meeting with some republicans next week. if you can sit down say with president trump, what is the one take away you will want him to have most? >> well, what i would want to do is one of the largest factors in this movement, and it's a cause that i'm pretty adamant about is facing addiction.org. i would encourage anyone watching faced with addiction to go to read the letter they have drafted to president trump and to get on board with that and sign that. >> you said as well that when i voted for trump i truly believed that he could make america great and i give every addict a chance to get sober. i saw a bright future. now i'm not so sure. the administration does plan to increase funding for opioid addiction by about $500 million. is that not enough?
what is the issue with you in that regard when it comes to the president? >> well, it's not enough. it's not enough. this is the number one public health are in the country. like i stated earlier 129 people die every day. someone is probably dying right now in america from this. and the fact is that there's 21 million people that suffer from substance use disorder. it parallels diabetes. those funds don't match-up. only one in ten people is ever going to receive treatment for this. and so for me sitting here, there are nine people that are not sitting here. for someone like ben affleck who you saw just came outlast week and spoke that, you know, that he had just gotten treatment for alcohol addiction, there are nine celebrities, there are nine people and we see it all the time in hollywood that they do not survive addiction. >> all right. jeremy, appreciate you taking the time to be with us today. thank you so much.
>> thank you. thachks f thanks for having me. still to come the president's credibility on the line. now that his words are starting to catch up with him, we'll take a look at what trump has said in the past and how it's affecting the future of his presidency. that's next. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪ now give up half of 'em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire.
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today marks eight years since president trump joined twitter. his tweets may be coming back to haunt him, at least in a sense. you know how it is when you get that hey, congratulations, you've been on twitter for how long. it's been his language about the travel ban on the campaign trail, his recent wire tapping
claims and the president's words are putting him in a bit of a political bind. >> even angela merkel addressed this. >> translator: i've always gsai it's much much better to talk to one another than about one another and our conversation proved this. >> the president's credibility is being questioned by some after several of his statements have been proven false. cnn victor blackwell reports trump's been pedaling conspiracies since before the campaign. >> number eight, election day. 2012, then private citizen donald trump tweeted the concept of global warming was created by and for the chinese in order to make u.s. manufacturing noncompetitive. this is one that president donald trump has promoted for years. despite offering no evidence to support the claim the chinese created climate change, the science is clear. according to noah and nasa, nearly all of the 17 hottest years on record have occurred
since 2000. and after his november, 2016, election win, trump conceded a human impact on climate change telling "the new york times," quote, i think there is is no connectivity, something. it depends on how much. coming in at number seven, the disease that killed thousands of people, ebola in in 2016 he tweeted it's easier to transmit than the government is admitting spreading all over africa and fast. well, it does r did not spread all over africa. all be all but 15 of the deaths were confined to -- trump never gave any evidence to back up the a accusation that the government was hiding the truth. healthy young child goes to doctor. gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines. doesn't feel good and changes.
autism, many such cases. well, the cdc says there are no links between vaccines and autism. here's what president trump's picked to lead the fda said in 2015. >> i think for too long a lot of people's public statements allowed these myths to prop gait because they said we don't think there's any correlation. we don't need more research. it's fine to collect data, but at some point you have to take no for an answer. >> number five from 2012 the economy is in terrible shape. barack obama is manipulating the job numbers to hide the truth. repeated without evidence during his run for president. >> i hear 5.3% unemployment. that is the biggest joke there is in this country. >> but after a strong jobs report for his first full month in office, a sudden reversal from the white house press secretary. >> they may have been phoney in the past, but it's very real now. >> minutes after cnn called a
2012 election for president obama, he lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. we should have a revolution in this country. also calling the electoral college phoney. actually, president obama won the electoral college vote and the popular vote. and as the numbers came in, trump deleted those tweets. four years later, donald trump's own actual elector ral win and popular vote loss takes us to number three. in addition to winning the electoral college in a landslide i won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. >> you're going to find and we're going to do an investigation on it. >> three to five million illegal votes. >> it could very well be that much. >> six weeks later still no white house investigation nor any evidence to support the claim. at number two, how low has president obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process in this is
nixon watergate bad or sick guy. they launched an investigation into that claim. >> we don't have any evidence that took place. in fact i don't believe just in the last week of time the people we talked to i don't think there was an actual tap of trump tower. >> we will be submitting certain things and i will be perhaps thinking about this next week, but it's right now before the committee and i think i want to leave it that. >> the number one debunked or baseless claim. >> you are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. he may not have been born in this country. >> the relentless questioning of president obama's birth place. an extremely credible source has called my office and told me barack obama birth certificate is a fraud. that was after he released his birth certificate in response to trump's claims. >> i know that there's going to be a segment of people for which no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest.
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go make some great memories today. >> there so much more ahead. we turn it over to our colleague, our friend, our professional friend, fredericka whitfield. >> you had a busy morning. wee got a busy afternoon. you all get out there and enjoy. good to see you. it's 11:00 eastern hour. i'm fredericka whitfield. newsroom starts right now. hello everyone, definitive proof. monday the fbi director will raise his right hand and tell if there is any evidence that trump tower was wire tapped by president obama. even as the department of justice and members of both intel committees are rebuking trump's claims, the president is not backing down, but he is shifting the blame for where he got that intel. >> that was a