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talking this hour on 360, cnn has learned new information that the fbi investigation into links between the trump administration -- campaign and the russian government. pamela brown and evan perez are with us. what have you learned? >> u.s. officials tell us the fbi has information that indicates associates of president trump communicated with suspected russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to hillary clinton's campaign. james comey made his bombshell announcement monday before congress that the fbi is investigating the trump campaign's ties to russia. the fbi is reviewing that information which includes human intelligence, travel records and business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings. this is what was raising the
suspicions of fbi counter intelligence, the investigation is still ongoing. some caution the information was not conclusive. but the fbi has not commented, nor would the white house, though trump officials have denied that there is any evidence of collusion. >> this gives us insight into what director comey knew when he spoke on monday. >> if you recall, in addition to comey saying the investigation looks at connections with trump associates it says that the investigation is being done in the first place. >> don't you need some action or information besides just attending a meet ing before you're open to counter intelligence by the fbi? >> the standard is, there's a couple different at play, a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis
to believe that an american may be acting as an agent of a foreign power. >> one law enforcement official said the information at hand suggests that people connected to the campaign were in contact and were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. but there are other u.s. officials we've spoken with who say it's premature to draw that inference, since it's largely circumstantial, and the fbi cannot prove that collusion did in fact take place, but the information suggesting collusion is now a large focus of this investigation. >> and what sort of coordination is under investigation? >> well, the fbi focussed on the stolen and published e-mail by wikileaks, including those from the dnc and john podesta. the clinton campaign chairman. u.s. officials said the information drawn was not drawn from the leaked dossier but that former british intelligence official who compiled it.
but the dossier suggests there was a coordination between trump campaign associates and russian operatives. >> do we know who's being investigated at this point? >> our sources would not say who connected to trump was being investigated on this information, but we do know the fbi has already been investigating four former trump campaign associates, michael flynn, paul manafort, roger stone and carter page. all four have denied improper contacts. one of the obstacles here, anderson, we're told through officials is that the fbi, in trying to find conclusive intelligence, is having a tough time, because communication between trump associates and russians have ceased in recent months, given the public focus on russia ties to the trump campaign, some officials have changed their methods of communications making monitoring more difficult, anderson. >> fascinating information. thanks very much for the
breaking news. back with us, the panel. anchor and former top obama adviser, david axelrod. the president in the past has called the russia coverage a rus. can he continue to claim that -- he can, but can he credibly claim that going forward knowing what weigh know about the fbi investigation? >> well, i think he will as long as he can. and i'm not sure that credibly is all that much important to him. but look, i think that what you see is this inexorable march of information that begins to point in a direction. we know now, and it's been confirmed that the russians were behind the stealing of the e-mails from the dnc. john podesta and the leaking by wikileaks. those things have been confirmed. and now, if you add the
component that there were people involved with the trump campaign or close to the trump campaign who are in communication with the russians, relative to this, i mean, that's a very explosive story. and if, if this is proven, and if the fbi and if the justice department comes to that conclusion, you know, this is a major, major, major scandal. and it will rock this government. >> carl bernstein, you agree with that, yes? and you believe is a major? >> yes, this is where this is story has been going, it's what the original intelligence investigation was about, to see if there was collusion between members of the trump campaign and the trump organization with the russians, and it appears from what is being found out by the intelligence community that there was such communication. and in response to this, and i want to take one second to lay this out. in response to this, what we are
watching chairman nunez do, is to try to make the issue here, how the press got its information and elevated this story to the point where people in this country are concerned about it. and what they are doing, talking about these leaks, et cetera, et cetera, or alleged leaks, is akin to as if in water gate, as the white house did, they tried to make the issue how we at the "washington post" were getting our information rather than the conduct of the president and his men. so we have these two parallel things happening at once. it seems to be the defense of the white house. and oh, no, it's not that there is all this evidence mounding up about possible collusion with the russians, and there's another bombshell story that i think you're going to talk about in a little while tonight, broken by the ap about paul manafort and how he actually proposed about ten years ago to work in behalf of putin.
on paper he did it. so to make this information look secondary, we have this smoke screen by the white house and chairman nunez. and it's important to separate the two and look at them that way. >> maggie, in the last hour, you said it's a low-grade fever for the white house, not going away anytime soon. is there anything the administration can do to more effectively deal with this? or, you know, i mean, they could very easily say, look, we embrace this investigation, but we've never heard those words from them. >> that's exactly right. among the things that they keep doing to carl's point is they keep saying, you know, it's not us, it's you. it's the leaks. it's this, it's that. and it's hard to know that certainly is frequently the type of response you see when there is something to hide. however it is something, having covered trump a long time, that is his reflexive knee jerk
response is to turn it back on whoever raised it with maximum heat lamp response going in the other direction. so i don't know what it indicates. i do know carl is correct, it is infective and people are vastly more people have heard about this. the white house could be more disciplined in the response. when sean spicer says we're not going to answer questions about trump saying that president obama tapped him, which does go back to this, because trump raised it because he wanted to throw the focus off questions of his attorney general jeff sessions. when he says don't answer questions about that, don't answer questions anymore about that. that is traditionally what we have seen a typical administration do during any kind of volatility like this. again, i'm not saying that's great if there is something that is more obfuscation, but at
least it is a more focussed way. this is just digging themselves in further. >> it is ironic that the republicans talked about what a mess it would be if hillary clinton was elected and was under federal investigation. we heard that time and time again during the campaign. we're seeing that now, and it is a distraction for him if nothing else. >> it is ironic, and no doubt it is a distraction. there are certain things as you were just talking about with maggie, that i think it would be relatively easy for the president to engage on. for instance, it's an accepted fact that even president trump at his press conference when he was president-elect in new york acknowledged that russia did indeed meddle in our election. he's the sitting president of the united states of america. don't you think that should be of concern to him? there is no evidence of that. there are avenues to express outrage without necessarily saying come, look at every single thing i have if he doesn't want to be that open. he could join in the fact that
it is not a good thing that russia has meddled in this election. >> how much longer can the white house point to clapper's comments, saying that he hadn't found anything conclusive. now we're nearing the end of march and the investigation is continuing. >> i guess until something is publicly declared by those investigating he can continue doing that. but to david's point, it would be good, and to maggie's, if they reacted in a more disciplined way and so on, it would be good if he acknowledged how insidious the actions of the russians were to interfere in our election and how brazen, but it'd be completely inconsistent with the way he's behaved over the past two years. one of the things that he's done that has brought suspicion onto himself and his operation is that his language toward russia and putin from the beginning has been weirdly welcoming, excusing
of, really, terrible misdeeds on the part of putin. likening the u.s. to russia in its practices and so on. all of this has only raised the temperature on himself and caused people to ask the question, what is it with him and russia? what is going on here? and so he has made this environment worse for himself. i suspect he will continue to try to bogart his way through this until someone declares that they've come to a conclusion in this investigation. and if the conclusion comes to, if the conclusion is that there was in fact collusion, then he has to make a choice. is he going to say this is all political, the intelligence community, the justice department, they're all involved in a conspiracy against him? how does he handle that? i think that's going to be a tough, a tough moment for him. >> did you say bogart his way through this? >> i did. i know how much you like movie references.
i know you like movie references. >> we've got to take a -- i'm sorry, go ahead, carl. >> i think we need to make clear what the president is doing here. he is trying to invent a new conspiracy, laid at obama, laid at the outgoing intelligence community of the united states, laid at the press and laid at supposed leaking that is more important than what the russians did and more important in what he is laying out in this conspiracy than what he and his people might have done. so it's, the lines are now drawn. and the question is, can it be investigated by the house committee? and it's very doubtful and why we need a special prosecutor and a 9/11-type commission to get to the bottom of all this. >> to carl's point about, you know, it's been what, 60-some days. we kind of know the playbook now. the morning of the house intelligence committee hearings,
i guess it was monday morning, you know, he sent out tweets about hillary clinton and russia. it's all of a piece. and after a while, once you're onto it it's kind of like a poker tale. you know what cards they're holding. >> it's not just 60 days, it's two years. but he didn't change in office. i think there was this expectation that the office, no matter who assumes it, changes the man. this has not happened with donald trump. this is the same donald trump we've known for a very, very long time. we know the tell, but that doesn't mean that voters do and the public does or that they are fully understanding how unusual this is, how unusual it was to see the head of the fbi sit at a committee hearing and confirm on the record that this investigation that relates to a sitting president is taking place. to carl's point, pointing out the unusualness and the enormity
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before the break, carl bernstein and maggie haeberman touched on this. it all began at lunch time. chairman nunez. the republican who was supposed to be leading an independent investigation about leaks and the russian connection to the campaign. it was followed by president trump with partial vindication. and democrats questioning the intelligence committee's impartiality. moments ago the president trump retweeting this from bill mitchel. it reads exactly as i said.
house intel chair, we cannot rule out senior obama officials were involved in trump surveillance. more from jeff zeleny. that's not exactly what he said, he said president obama. but anyway, about these revelations, what can you tell us? >> reporter: the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee shock everyone by showing up here at the white house for a meeting with the president saying he had new information. he didn't bother to explain what that was to the other members of the committee. democrats particularly. he briefed a new republicans there. but he stood outside the west lobby of the west wing of the white house, shortly after he met with the president, and he said this. >> this doesn't have anything to do with this. this is information, this is information that was brought to me that i thought the president needed to know about incidental collection, where the president himself and others in the trump transition team were clearly put
into intelligence reports that ended up at this white house and across a whole bunch of other agencies, and i thought it was important for the president to know this. that's why i briefed the speaker this morning and i came down here as soon as i could. >> now it's important to point out, he is leading an investigation into an entirely separate branch of government here. so the idea of him coming down to share information raised a ton of eyebrows. yes, he was a supporter of the president. he worked on his campaign committee and transition committee, which isn't that unusual, but the sheer fact that he showed up here raises questions about his objectivity and has thrown the entire investigation up in the air potentially. >> while the president earlier said he felt partially vindicated. from that tweet, it sounds like he's feeling more vindicated. the timing of the information is suspect. >> reporter: the timing is
interesting. look what else is going on today. it seems several hours, several different things have happened, but the democrats say that they were blindsided by this, this simply, you know, was coming out of left field entirely. so the top democrat on the congressional, on the house intelligence committee, adam schiff, had this to say after digesting all of this. >> and unfortunately, i think the actions of today throw great doubt into the ability of both the chairman and the committee to conduct the investigation the way it ought to be conducted. >> so the question is now what is coming after this. democrats, of course, will be calling for a independent investigation. the republicans control the house, so that is not likely to happen. but there is a separate investigation happening all to the, and the senate intelligence committee did not want to come anywhere near this. they are doing their own investigation. the fbi is investigating separately. so the fact that this looked like a lifeline for the white house may not be as long of one
as they had hoped. all these investigations still under way tonight. despite all of this, anderson. >> much more now with our panel. kiersten powers, matt lewis, christine quinn is back with us as well as trump supporter, kayleigh mcenany. kiersten on this, why what do you make of what him going to the white house and the president saying it's a partial nind kags? -- vand kags? >> i think it's, the way he's handling it is a little shade if he had that information that is that important he should have shared it with the rest of the people on the committee, at a bear minimum, congressman schiff, and there would have been a lot more credibility had he done that. if you look at what he's alleging here, he's saying this is all legal, incidental. it's not really vindicating donald trump, because donald trump had accused president obama of wiretapping.
>> and nunez said -- >> the other thing i think is concerning is that donald trump had said on tucker carlson's show, some information's going to be coming out. and now this information -- >> spicer reiterated that yesterday. >> and we don't know how congressman nunez got this information. so there are a lot of questions that need to be answered here. >> that's my point. great minds think alike. i think kiersten's exactly right on that. donald trump said that obama wiretapped him in trump tower. this was not, this was incidental, which means they were not targeting donald trump or his administration or his transition team but i think, look, this really called into question, into serious question the objectivity and the independence of this congressional investigation. i think if i were the chairman of this, you know, if i found out this information, my first move would be to go to the ranking member and say hey,
we've bot this, how do you think we should handle it. should we hold a press conference? alert the other committee members? should we go to the white house and inform the president? he didn't do any of that. he unilaterally did that. and whether or not there's anything fishy, it creates the appearance of impropriety. >> but i think you're really missing the forest for the trees. my democrat counterparts and republican counterparts are concerned at the process by way he relayed this information. nobody is talking about the substance. if it is true, and we have no reason to doubt chairman nunez. if it is true that u.s. citizens were spied on. >> no. they weren't spied. >> no. no. no. >> let her finish. let her finish. >> these are the facts. in the course of surveying foreign agents, they stumbled upon u.s. citizens who were talking about donald trump's family, his plans for the administration.
that was reported on cnn. they stumbled upon this conversation, at that point, go read dni procedures. you stop what you're doing. instead of stopping what they were doing, they unmasked the name of the person. maybe you don't think fourth amendment rights apply to people with an r behind their name, the they certainly do, and the fact that the left isn't outraged is teeply disturbing. >> what you put out are not the facts as we know them from the information. >> they're according to cnn, the facts. >> no. what the congress member said and on one of the earlier segments, a very high-ranking former cia and fbi officer conveyed and clarified was that this was allowed, court-ordered, looking into foreign agents, in the course of which, which happens all the time. in different investigations. the person they're watching or listening to has a conversation or an interaction with somebody else.
it happens constantly. >> no, no, no. >> ba, ba, ba, ba,ba. i let you finish. i didn't want to, but i did. so you have to now. then they identify these other people, and they identified them as american one, two, three. as the same way it happens with district attorney and u.s. attorney. and they asked to unmask them. that is all fully allowed and completely different than the president saying the former president illegally wiretapped him. >> can you tell me what the legal qualification for unmasking is? it's committing a crime or having credible intelligence. what crime was committed? >> do we know enough about who was unmasked and what the nature of the conversation was. to say whether the unmasking was appropriate or not. >> according to nunez, it was inappropriate. he has no evidence to support they were committing a crime. >> does it raise any questions
to you that nunez, who is chairman of this committee, which is supposed to be impartial and investigating people in the white house, would go to the people being investigated with information? >> they're being investigated for something different. the collusion with russians is part of this investigation. what is also part of this investigation is the leaking of information, and what is also part of this information is now this, this spying of u.s. citizens, and devin nunez had a valid point. the obama administration was aware of this. it is within president trump's rights to know. >> this is damaging if you're a republican and you want to keep this from becoming a select committee or independent prosecutor. what you need to do is preserve, hopefully not the ill flugs but hopefully the integrity of this process. and i think that what representative nunez did, chairman nunez did today undermines that. >> john mccain says -- >> we need to believe in separation of powers.
>> why are you more concerned about the process than the substance of his claims? are you concerned at all -- >> i don't think they were spying on donald trump. >> so you think devin nunez lied? >> he didn't say that they were spying on donald trump. >> no, on u.s. citizens. >> but not donald trump. >> it doesn't matter if it's donald trump. a u.s. citizen has fourth amendment rights. >> he's not saying they were spying on u.s. citizens. >> to believe the congress member confirmed that. he confirmed donald trump associates. >> we don't know who his source is. i'm just supposed to take his word? >> maybe he doesn't know about the fourth amendment? >> it also, i mean, just for the full picture, devin nunez was on the transition team for president trump. >> yeah. >> this just isn't how you handle it if you want to be seen on the up and up. it just isn't. it's so unusual. you're down there, kayleigh outraged over everything. you're not outraged over the fact that he went to the white
house before he even went to the other person on the committee that he's supposed to be doing investigations with and you keep saying that americans were being spied on, and that's not what happened. >> they were unmasked in violation of the law. >> there's only supposedly one unmasking. we don't know -- >> mike flynn and others. >> we don't know the circumstances around why they were unmasked. but at the end of the day, that's not spying, spying would be targeting them. they weren't targeted. they were -- kayleigh, you need to stop telling us we don't care about the laws. that's just not. >> you are acting as if i have faux outrage, that a private conversation about trump's family. >> it's not faux outrage. >> does it concern you at all that a private conversation was widely disseminated? >> if it was done improperly, yes. if there was no reason to do it. but we don't know what happened.
>> i'm not saying that you have fake outrage. i think your outrage is legitimate. i'm just saying you don't have similar outrage over other things like the accusations against the trump administration, donald trump and other people. >> which there's no evidence of. we have evidence here. we have credible evidence that mike flynn's identity was not only unmasked but leaked to the "washington post." a private u.s. sit step citizen's conversation. >> are you as outraged about russian hacking during the election and dissemination of e-mails and your candidate donald trump saying i love wikileaks and reading all this information? >> i sat on this panel and said an attack on the united states, doesn't matter. democrat, republican, an attack on the dnc is an attack on the rnc and america. i'm concerned that my democratic counterparts don't seem to care about the constitution and the fourth amendment, and they are the ones selectively outraged.
>> with all due respect, no one here has trashed the fourth amendment. >> yes, you have. >> no, we have not, kayleigh, a. >> to call into question the people on this panel, our belief in the constitution. >> because we are so -- >> the process devin nunez. this is the argument of the panel. how dare devin nunez go to the white house before the panel. not how dare u.s. citizens were unmasked and their identity leaked. >> my position right now that i'm most concerned about is that you are putting out misinformation. >> it's not misinformation. >> american citizens, it is collateral intelligence. it happens all the time. paul manafort is facing and knocking down new allegations about his ties to russia. he says the newest reporting is a smear and innuendo. we'll have the details ahead. whoa, this thing is crazy.
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involves his work for the ousted president of ukraine. drew griffin has the latest. >> reporter: the latest connection between a close trump associate and russia was dug up by the associated press. reporting a 2005 memo in which paul manafort, already working for a russian billionaire named oleg deripaska was pitching a plan to greatly benefit the russian government. manafort did confirm to cnn that he did work for oleg deripaska. but rejects the associated press interpretation that he was pushing the political interest of vladimir putin. including to influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the united states. i have always publicly acknowledged that i worked for mr. deripaska he told cnn through a spokesman, adding, i
did not work for the russian government, once again, manafort writes, smear and innuendo are being used to paint a false picture. a spokesman for deripaska he provided investment consulting services but declined to provide any additional details. they had a major falling out. he funneled nearly $19 million in an account registered in the kaman islands. they invested in a ukrainian telecon company. and it went south. manafort simply disappeared. sean spicer this afternoon down playing any connection this has to the president. >> he was a consultant. he had clients from around the world. there's no suggestion that he did anything improper or, but, to suggest that the president
knew who his clients were from a decade ago is a bit insane. he was hired to do a job. he did it. that's it. plain and simple. >> reporter: it's just the latest russian headline headache for the trump administration. cnn has reported the fbi is already investigating possible connections between trump officials and manafort and russian officials. manafort was fired by the trump campaign on august 19th, the same day the fbi announced manafort was involved in another investigation and another possible connection to russia. this time, it was his consulting work for the pro-russian, former president of ukraine, viktor yanukovych who had to flee his own country, seeking asylum with president putin. the government of ukraine opened an investigation into possible corruption and money laundering against yanukovych. after manafort's name appeared on a ledger.
of $12.7 million in secret payments. he denies he ever took money illegally from anyone in his worldwide consulting business. he denies he pushed a russian agenda in ukraine. and denies that that connection with a russian billionaire had anything to do with a plan to enrich vladimir putin. manafort is not granting interviews right now, but he did tell us through a statement this afternoon that he looks forward to meeting with those conducting what he calls a serious investigation into all this so he can explain the actual facts. >> drew griffin, thank you for the reporting. up next, surveillance video of the attack that took four lives. at bp's cooper river plant, employees take safety personally - down to each piece of equipment, so they can protect their teammates and the surrounding wetlands, too. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better.
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a terror investigation under way in london after at least four people were killed and 40 hurt. it started with an attack on the westminster bridge. the car in question is speeding from right to left in the spot we've highlighted. you see one of the victims jumping into the river thames. we're told she was hospitalized. here's the aftermath.
victims getting medical attention, waiting for ambulances. an after crossing the bridge, the terrorist rammed his vehicle into the gates of parliament, got out of the vehicle and stabbed a police officer before being shot to death. christiane amanpour is on the scene tonight. we're joined with the latest. you spoke to members of parliament who were finally able to leave. what did they tell you about what they witnessed? >> reporter: well, it's incredible. they were under lock and key for hours and hours. suddenly hundreds of them started filing out. and we grabbed some of them and talked to them. one member of parliament told me they were on the way to voting. they were moving underground, they have underground connecting tunnels, and they were on the way to voting when all of a sudden they saw other members coming at them from a different part of the building and telling them to go back, go back. they'd heard these shots ring out.
and so they all went back, they went back to their offices. they sort of locked down. some of them who could get to their offices. others were forced to lockdown until they were told, you know, it's under control, but you still have to stay in. so it was very scary for them. but they pay tribute to the incredible professionalism of the police on the gate. if that police contingent hadn't been fully deployed and fully alert, this would have potentially been a lot worse. but the police are getting huge kudos here for their very, very quick and complete response to this incident. >> you also spoke to a former counter terrorism official. i'm wondering what they told you. does this bear the hallmarks of isis? or an isis-inspired attack? any idea on it? >> reporter: the police have now said formally while think believe they know who the attacker is, they're not releasing his name and have not yet said his motive although they are treating it as an islamist-inspired attack.
that is what they're treating it as. what we've been talking to officials about is the style of this. in a nutshell, it's a low-tech, high-impact terror attack, the likes of which we saw in nice, in berlin, which is a car, and in this case, a knife. it causes an enormous amount of damage and terror. we've got apparently according to officials, 40 injured. the death toll stands at this point at five. that means, including the policeman who was killed and the assailant who was skilled. but injuries are catastrophic. but people are just thanking god, thanking response, thanking everything that it wasn't much worse than at that actually turned out to be. >> and the british prime minister theresa may said that parliament was chosen as a target, that's no accident. >> reporter: it's no accident, anderson. they chose the heart of britain's democracy. this is called the mother of parliament. it is the oldest parliament building in the world.
and this is what they chose to attack. and fortunately, the casualties are relatively low to what think could have been compared to nice. the prime minister said this building will reconvene tomorrow as planned. it will continue its work. in the face of these people who are often accused of wanting to quote, destroy our way of life, she said people tomorrow will get out of bed, will get out of their homes, will put on their suits and ties, tourists will come out. they'll walk these streets. they'll get on with their day. they'll get on with their lives. we will not be cowed. and that is very much the spirit in london tonight as it has been throughout the terror threat. >> christiane amanpour, thanks very much. on the eve of the house vote for repealing and replacing obamacare, we talk to people in kentucky and what's at stake for them. in our network uncovered series, next.
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>> black lung, copd, had congestive heart failure and kidney failure. >> hypertension, cancer. colon cancer is high here. i'm a cancer survivor. >> reason many say they are so sick is because they couldn't afford luxuries like doctor visits and preventive medicine but changed in 2013 when kentucky's medicaid program expands under the affordable care act. 400,000 uninsured kentuckians gained access to health care thanks to obamacare. >> did it make a difference? >> oh, yeah it made a big difference. saved his life. >> for me personally insurance was a major life saver, i would not have been able to afford the treatments. >> reporter: ken tucky seems to be an obamacare success
story and republican talk of repeal and replace has folks scared. >> lot of people aren't sure what to think right now. >> understandable except -- you voted for donald trump. >> i did. >> we were behind trump. >> this part of kentucky gave strongest support in the state for the candidate who made no secret of the fact he wanted to repeal obamacare. >> what do you think? >> i'm thinking he can turn this thing around. we've been in a major mess. >> he didn't say he was going to wipeout insurance. he said he was going to redo it. well, i agree it does need to be redone on certain things. >> reporter: many believe for all the good its done, obamacare could be better. or that's what they hope. >> that's exactly what i'm hoping. >> you still -- you still have that hope? >> i do.
i do. >> i don't know. it's scary that people who are the poorest, who need the most help are going to vote for somebody who i feel like won't help us. >> reporter: they are literally steaking their life on it. >> if it goes away, i don't know. i don't have no backup plan. >> it's going to be like a silent death sentence on people like me. just a matter of time. >> reporter: medical experts here said among the other good things the aca provided is it got people invested in their medical futures. now the changes their imposing in washington, they fear people will go back to the old way, where they see the doctor in an emergency room.
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