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>> they did these listening checks, even though there was child care available at the resort, they did the listening checks every hour so the children could stay in their beds. >> special report tonight, madeleine mccann's disappearance tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern. anderson is next. good evening, thank you for joining us on what is a very busy friday night, we begin with breaking news in the russia white house watch, a report that senior members of president trump's transition team warned national security advisor michael flynn about his contacts with russia's ambassador. this is reported from "the washington post." adam, explain what you have learned, that the trump france situation team, who was it that warned flynn and what did they warn him about exactly? >> basically this is soon after the election, there's what's referred to as landing teams which have been set up for different government agencies by the trump campaign, it's now the
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transition, so you have the head of the landing team for the national security council. he basically, learns that flynn is planning to have a conversation with kislayak, the russian ambassador and he's concerned and basically wants to provide him with information. he wants him to know that his conversation with kislayak, would probably be intercepted by the fbi here in the u.s., which is monitoring ambassadors like kislayak and other ambassadors and overseas, when kislayak finishes his meeting with a foreign official, he sends it to moscow. so he wanted him to be aware. >> he was so concerned, and according to reporting and was concerned that flynn didn't quite understand the role kislayak plays, that they actually drew up or requested intelligence documents or kind of a profile of kislayak?
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>> the cia -- when they go and have meetings with those people, the american has an idea of what they're getting into. this is a document that's prepared and it's updated regularly, so what happened in this case is the transition official approached the obama administration officials who were interacting with the transition team in the situation room in the white house. and in one of their meetings about the trump transition, this trump official basically asked for the cia's bio of kislayak, so he could provide that to flynn to let him know in a sense what he was dealing with and warn him about the possibility that if he talks to him on an open line, it's going to get picked up. >> do you know whether that
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request was made by flynn or is that not known? >> we know the relationship between flynn and kislayak from previous reporting goes back a few years, they were in contact with each other during the campaign, and then after the transition, particularly as you can imagine, after flynn is an noted to be the national security advisor. kislayak and frankly, any ambassador in washington who's worth his or her salt is going to be trying to get to know the new national security advisor. so kislayak is obviously pushing for contact with flynn and unlike a lot of other ambassadors in washington who are struggling to make those connections with the incoming trump team, you actually had a very receptive trump team when it came to the russians, so if you talk to other european ambassadors around that time, they felt like they were getting -- where you had the
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russian ambassador who was getting phone calls and meeting with members of the trump team. >> cnn has also learned that the senate intelligence committee has asked several trump associates to turn over their records of meetings with russian officials. jim? >> reporter: they have now asked several people involved with the campaign, roger stone, paul manafort who was for a time chairman of the trump campaign, but here carter page, colorfully refusing this request from the senate intelligence committee, which i might add is chaired by a republican, senator richard byrd, saying i suspect the clinical reaction of the clinton/obama regime of purpose traitors will be more along the lines of severe vomiting when all the facts are eventually
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expose regarding the steps taken by the u.s. government to influence the election. trump is alleging that that actually the obama regime was surveilling him, which anderson, is not far off that the president has said that the obama administration was surveilling president trump during the campaign. >> carter page is saying that they have committed the worst hate crimes since martin luther king. >> we were told after carter page made this refusal, the senate committee, which is prepared to use subpoenas. we don't know -- keep in mind, previous cnn reporting,
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anderson, is that several members of the trump team were known to u.s. officials during the trump campaign, people like mana fort and others, people like the fbi investigation as well as the house and senate intelligence committees. i might also add that it's our reporting that the u.s. had evidence of these meetings during the trump campaign. if they lie or don't provide, keep in mind, the u.s. intelligence committee, it is believed has ed of those kmoo communications as well. >> joining me now is cnn commentator jason miller who was formerly with the trump campaign what. do you make of this claim by "the washington times" that flynn was warned about the
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ambassador? >> we have seen him have contacts where he said one thing and then having to backtrack, in ter . we don't know whether he read this intelligence report or not. but it is again a reason why he was cautious in this setting. i do think it is potentially another example of the trump team trying to isolate themselves from flynn. i think that there are a number of people within the white house who are concerned about what else could come out about michael flynn. >> a guy who ran the defense intelligence agency would need a heads up on who the russian ambassador is and what he is capable of and what role he
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plays with russian intelligence. how damming is that that he was warned by senior officials. >> he made his career by breaking rules, a kind of bucking the norms and bureaucracy of the military, he would share intel with the pakistanis at times. and he said, you know what? i'm going to do this, i'm going get it done right and get it done my way. that's what always made flynn such an unusual choice and a perilous choice with the trump administration. he made his career out of being a wild card, it failed. >> either way, what does it mean to you. >> not of this particular are briefing of whatever the report was that flynn was given.
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but there are a couple of more reports. briefings like this are pro form ma, when you have a senior administration official, i'm sure they received similar briefings with the palestinian president when he was here earlier this week, what we don't know is the exact request and how that came down and what we also don't know is if general flynn even requested for this briefing to be given or if this was mr. billingsley trying to generate value. the fact that general flynn was giving the heads up to watch what he says to the russian ambassador is really a caveat report. >> is it true that someone in the transition, i guess it was billingsley, was concerned about flynn talking to the russian ambassador, concerned about his attitude toward it, and that's why he requested it.
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it wasn't just a pro forma, you're going to be talking to president abbas, here's a resume of president abbas. >> you can tell when president trump is having a good week, when another one of these anonymous issues come out, this was a story that was pushed by former obama white house people going to "the washington post" to try to get this story out. this was nothing untoward or illegal or wrong that was printed today, it was just the fact that the briefing was given. we do know that seven obama white house spokes were interviewed as part of the story. so clearly it's not trump folks who are putting it forward, but it's this overall effort of the anonymous sources to go and try to smear the president and tear him down. the question i would put back is what from the story was either illegal or unethical or wrong or
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breaking protocol, there was just nothing in there. >> you could also make the argument that this actually gives the trump transition team some cover as, you know, here was in guy that was maybe a loose cannon and there were people on the transition concerned about it. >> as i said before, i think you are seeing some people around the president, trying to sort of cauterize the wound that is michael flynn at this point. jason is correct, we have no reason to believe that there was anything illegal done or anything inappropriate done. there is a problem with this investigation so far, and matt and i have been reporting on this too, but so far there has not been any concrete evidence pointing to any actual wrong doing, but that is what investigations are for and they go on for a while. so we'll see. >> and matt, based on your reporting, sit clear whether flip was just taking it upon
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himself by having contact with the russian ambassador or from some other place. >> it wasn't entirely upon himself. because in september, jared kushner and flynn met with a russian ambassador as well. i find it unlikely that nobody else knew about this, but clearly from the post, we see that there are real concerns that there was something unusual here, there was a predisposition of an adversary or a rival. more breaking news, another trump cabinet nominee has withdrawn his name under a cloud of controversy. also ahead, delta is apologizing for the latest airline mess booting a couple and their two kids. if you've tried every pill on the shelf
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and help make tomorrow possible. ♪ you're only a day away. part trump's nominee for army secretary mark green has withdrawn his name because of the controversy he's raised. who's vetting potential nominees. >> reporter: mark green is a victim of his own words. >> you call the psychiatrists, they're going to tell you that transgender is a disease. >> reporter: green has also made critical comments about muslims and is a self identified creationist who once delivered a -- second choice for army secretary is taking his name out of consideration, his first pick
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withdraw citing financial entanglements. questions are also now being raised about 28-year-old steven munos, he was hired for a top job in the office of protocol on march 5. multiple people accuse ed munosf sexual assault while he was a student. munos was never charged with a crime, but an investigation by the sidel revealed that based upon a preponderance of evidence the college concluded that certain assaults likely occurred. the allegations were unfounded. it was a total overreaction by the citadel to even investigate. a simple search would have revealed the allegations, the white house and state department did not comment on whether they
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considered or knew about the allegations. perhaps the most serious case of questionable vetting, the appointment and subsequent resignation of former national security advisor michael flynn. the retired general accepted $45,000 in speaking fees from russian state tv in 2013, despite being warned by the pentagon not to accept money from foreign governments and flynn initially failed to register as a foreign agent for work he did for a turkish company. >> he was approved by the obama administration, at the highest level. and when they say we didn't vet, well obama, i guess didn't vet because he was approved at the highest level of security by the obama administration. >> jessica, ultimately who is responsible for the vetting process inside the trump administration? >> typically the office of presidential personnel takes the lead on vetting, although as potential nominees, they get
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significant input from the white house council's office. president trump runs things a little bit differently. and when it comes to this vetting process, he often gets input from multiple sources. a bit of election déjà vu, a massive hacking operation eagainst one candidate in france just days before the final election. >> reporter: it sounds very familiar because it is familiar. manual macron, nine gig go bites of emails, photos that were stolen from the macron campaign, released with fewer than 36 hours to go before french voters go to the polls to choose their president. macron has had a big lead in
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this. the timing of this seems very familiar. it is not known who is behind this. u.s. intelligence officials have been saying to me that russia, emboldened by its success, some might say in terms of hacking into the u.s. election and the democratic party, et cetera, was emboldened by that, and was expected to target french and german elections that are happening this year, and this kind of thing, stealing emails, releasing them right before people go to the polls certainly fits the pattern. and the timing really extremely interesting and somewhat alarming here. >> marine le pen is the mother candidate in this election. she also has a very pro russia stance and also a stance, more or less against thor european
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union and the idea of perhaps even coming out of the european union. >> and the macron campaign said they have been the target of hacks that they believe are coming from russia. so all those things fit a pattern here, and there's not a definitely conclusion here, it took u.s. intelligence weeks to determine that it was russia we hich behind the hacks on the democratic party. coming up, when the health care bill hits the senate, the word from capitol hill is that senators will write their own version, what the white house is saying about that next. with taxes and fees included. that'll save you hundreds. get two lines of unlimited data for a hundred dollars. that's right. two lines. a hundred bucks. all in. and now, the brand new samsung galaxy s8 is here.
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as the republican health care bill heads to the senate, there are tough questions from con stitch wents. >> people are medicaid except dying. you are making -- >> no one wants anybody to die. but that line is so
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indefensible. nobody dies because they don't have access to health care. >> he said nobody dies because they don't have access to health care. as for the latest reaction from the white house, for the 14th week in a row, he's at one of his golf courses in new jersey. there are many out there who are obviously angry over this but bill. >> reporter: aenz anderson, they're not ready for these angry responses and we're going to see more of that in the coming months, this is exactly what we heard in reverse, back in 2009 when obama was trying to get obamacare passed, there were angry town halls and there were people accusing obamacare of lettings people sky. this bill is likely to undergo a
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major overhaul in the senate. and there are moderates with big concerns on the republican side. they don't like the house that the house bill weakens those protections for people with preexisting conditions and they don't like in places like ohio, scaling back medicaid, so this is going to undergo an overhaul before's all said and done. >> and the president's saying the health care bill could change a little bit. that seems a huge understatement. >> it's a massive understatement, anderson, but white house spokeswoman sarah huckabee said that this bill is going to undergo changes in the senate. they're saying that the main pillars in the house bill are going to remain. but at the same time, there are just too many republican senators from the moderate side of the republican party who are just uncomfortable with that house bill, they don't like the fact that it hasn't been scored by the congressional budget
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office. anderson, that is the next big headline to drop on this story, when the congressional budget office shows tens of millions of people potentially losing health care because of this bill, you're going to see the kind of panic that you saw unleashed at those town halls when president trump failed to get this through before. >> i think perhaps somebody informed the president that in australia they have universal health care in a system that is run by the government. he said tonight something very different. he said of course, the australia j ians have better health care than we do, everybody does. the republicans on capitol hill are going to point a picture that obama care is dying, it's
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not worth saving anymore. and that's why trump care has to come to the rescue. but this is far from being a done deal for the republicans, this is going to undergo a pretty laborious and perhaps excruciating process in the congress. many express -- could face premiums that are out of control. others say it disproportionately affects women. the president of planned parenthood says this is the worst health care bill in a generation. >> reporter: beyond the politics of the washington beltway, the house health care bill has serious implications for the 17 million americans living with pre-existing conditions, especially women. critics say the bill would hit
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women particularly hard, women who are pregnant, have had a previous c-section, have irregular periods insurers may potentially deem them uninsu uninsurable by pushing them into high risk pools where the policy may not be as affordable. >> women would be in the same situation where they're denied coverage because of situations that are unique to them and that's discrimination. >> reporter: the bill doesn't explicitly define what a pre-existing condition is. the u.s. department of health and human services says a pre pre-existing condition is a health problem you had before the coverage starts. that would put it in the hans of the insurance company to decide
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whether a condition can be considered pre-existing. >> frankly the most concerning part about this is that it sends the message to survivors that you're going to be punished for this and it effectively establishes a premium on sexual assault. >> reporter: previous law -- rape has pre-existing conditions but this has raised some alarm on capitol hill. >> we commit to maintaining that the victims of domestic violence will not be discriminated against when purchasing health insurance. >> i think it's absolutely victims of domestic violence and anybody, we need a system in place that ensures that individuals are not priced out of the market. >> reporter: it says off social media with the
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#iamapreexistingcondition. in states that decide to do so, insurerings could charge higher premiums to those with pre-existing conditions that let their coverage lapse. but it's unknown how that -- many with pre-existing conditions, especially women are now left in limbo. >> what is the provision or planned parenthood. >> there's actually a provision in a past bill that would block planned parenthood from receiving medicaid reimbursements for a year. this is a big promise from president trump and also many other republicans, they have promised to defund planned parenthood at ever chance they can get.
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this could turn into something that's a major sticking point as no doubt that process will yield significant changes to this bill, a sticking point among a very small but a very important influential group of senate republicans may take issue with this, for example, senator markowsky has said she will not vote for any bill that defunds planned parenthood so likely a battle on this part of capitol hill ahead. >> we'll talk more about this after the break, including people celebrating the part of the health care bill that critics say will is disasterous for women. bl i'm becoming my, uh, mother. it's been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful.
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welcome back. as we have reported, the house health care bill has big pitfalls for some people, particularly women, in a system that's allowed to call everything from rape to domestic violence a preexisting condition. if you scan the crowd, you only find a few women there. it's pretty much a sea of white
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men. as we know the fight isn't over, the bill now goes to the senate, there will likely be a lot of changes there. but a group of 13 senators who will work on building the senate's version of the bill, no women in that group. gop aid to one of these republican senators say they have no interest in playing identity politics and that reducing it to gender misses the point. is it a problem that this group, this working group is 13 men? >> i think it would be nice to include senator susan tollens, who has co-authored a bill of her own. i think it would be nice to have her voice there, and i think in the ultimate passage of the bill, you'll have several female republican senators to have a voice, in order to pass this, you will have to have female republicans on board. but i think they should are put susan tollens on the panel.
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>> let's forget not having a woman on the panel. when you're a legislature, you're passing legislation that's pertinent -- you should have informed, educated people that know of what they speak drafting the legislation. they have women in the legislature, and if you're going to pass legislation that in essence makes being a woman a pre-existing condition, having children, potentially being a rape survivor, why wouldn't you want people who actually have personal knowledge based on their gender of that. >> the work group includes senate leadership and they just happen to be men. there's no reason women senators couldn't be added to that group. >> i'm hearing from some senators that i talked to tonight and they are saying that tollens -- washington is a white
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male dominated town. unfortunately, men talk to men, but you've got to bring women into this dynamic, when you're talking about issues like fertility, and we run the white house, and we make the decisions. >> and if you're defunding planned parenthood -- >> it's a common sense issue as well as a good policy piece to bring women in and put them at the table. what did shirley chisholm said, if you don't have a seat at the table, we're in a folding chair. >> the statement from republican senators saying they have no intention of focusing on gender that -- >> let's stop talking about ourselves, for a second, republican senators, this is actually about the people affected by this bill, and you're talking about passing
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legislation, the house has passed legislation that is almost uniformly seen as anti-women and disregarding and hurtful to women about issues that only relate to women. unless you want to keep that anti-women nature going of this, why wouldn't you want women on the board. >> having a child is a pre-existing condition. and for them to totally say in the house, this is going to be an opt out option. this is going to be a real issue for women. >> i think a lot of what democrats have been saying has been misleading, let me back up and say i have a pre-existing condition, i have the brca gene, i'm well aware of the importance
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of health care and it is indispensable that republicans protect this group of people. democrats are being misleading when they say they have removed all pre-existing protection. >> $8 million is a drop of the bucket for the scores of millions of people with pre-existing conditions and the most vulnerable. >> in theory, if these high-risk pools work like the main high-risk pool, but it's up to republicans to make it work. if you're not strict about which states are granted this waiver, then you're going to have a new worse version of if you like your doctor you can keep it. >> angie, i'm sorry, this is not a victory, i'm talking to house members, i'm talking to senators, they're saying in their districts, republicans and democrats are speaking loudly, i spoke to sheila jackson lee, she said people are hugging her, republicans are hugging her,
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saying please keep fighting, i talked to someone else in another state. they're saying, look, it's a mixed bag. this is not about republicans or democrats or men or women, this is about people who are hurting. i am a concern with pre-existing conditions as well. and it's not about me, it's about the issue at hand, millions of americans have pre-existing conditions and they are the most vulnerable. >> a high-risk pool, if they only are under the strictest of conditions this can work in a more effective way. >> it just seems to harken back, the lack of women in that photo, in decision making, it just harkens back to a time that i kind of thought we were beyond. >> i think two things, one, that picture says it all and what it says is they don't really care. they don't care what women think, they don't care what mothers think, what men think
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about how women should be treated. but i just want to pick up on what kelly said about state's rights and state's participations in this. it's important to know that the action taken in the house trump care bill will very well likely make it impossible for states like new york and california that have inquired that women in the state have abortion coverage. it will practically make it impossible for them to have a higher standard of abortion covera coverage. we're talking about this potentially as it relates, whether i agree or disagree to the pre-existing condition pool, why doesn't it apply to abortion? why do they get to pick and choose and be so hypocritical? what is the only crime that are a pre-existing condition, there are no other crimes that people suffer and survivor that are pre-existing conditions aside
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from rape, which can happen to men and women. >> this is so bad, wiomen in ths nation, there was a run on birth control pills in fear of what this president was going to do. >> we got to leave it there, i'm sorry. thank you very much. up next, find out why the parents of two young kids on a delta flight were threatened with jail time. hear what delta's saying about the incident. strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best oral decongestant. live claritin clear, with claritin-d.
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a new airplane dispute is caught on video. this time delta is accused of kicking a family off the plane. at issue, the seat being used by the man's infant son, he booked the seat under the name of his teenaged son during an earlier flight. delta wanted to have the infant sit on the lap of one of the parents, the father was not happy about it. >> we're going to jail because my kids are what? i bought that seat. >> i understand. >> i got him a ticket on another flight so that my son would have a seat. so you're saying that you're going to give that away to someone else when i paid for that seat, this is not right. >> this is just the latest on a string of airline turbulence that never even left the ground. >> you need to do what's right. i bought this seat and you just
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leave us alone. >> brian schear and his family are being removed from a flight from maui bound for los angeles. because they put their child in a car seat next to them. the trouble is, that seat was booked in the name of their older son who had taken another flight. flight attend dachbts told s schear that because of faa rules, the child because of its age had to sit in the lap of an adult. >> we flew out here on a delta plane. >> reporter: despiter that arguing, the family bass escorted off the flight. delta apologized, refunded the family's travel and provided additional compensation. an apology was in order after this incident, too, this time, from american airlines.
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the woman in the video is sobbing because witnesses say a flight attendant had just violently taken her collapsable stroller away, nearly hitting her baby in the process. and when a fellow passenger tried to step in on the woman's behalf. >> hey, bud, hey, bud, you do that to me, i'll knock you flat. >> reporter: the woman and her baby were escorted off the plane. american swiftly issued a statement saying, the video does not reflect our values. the woman was upgraded to 1st class for the rest of her trip and the flight attendant was later removed from duty. just two weeks before that, a viral video from an board united airline, after this chicago doctor was dragged off. he had refused to give up his seat. >> ahh. aah. >> o my god. >> by the time it was over, dr. david dao was bloody, his lawyer says he suffered a concussion, a
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broken nose and lost two teeth. >> oh my god, look at what you did to him. >> reporter: the airline later apologized and settled with him for an undisclosed amount. other airline incidents are hardly as high pro. on this usairways flight a disabled vietnam was removed for not putting his service dog on the floor for takeoff said of in the seats. >> i'm legally in the right by ada law. this is a service animal and he can ride with me anyplace. >> reporter: he and his dog were still removed by an officer and rebooked for the next day. cell phones appear to be a clear trigger for removal. this woman was talking on hers on a spirit airlines jet. >> leave me alone, stop it! stop! >> reporter: this passenger says spirit kicked her off a flight because of her cleavage. >> two or three times people came over and said, they're still not covered up enough. >> reporter: that case is likely
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headed for court. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> joining us for thinks i his take on this, cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. let me get you straight, you actually defend the airlines here? >> oh, you are putting me in an impossible position. >> you go right ahead. >> with that statement. >> what i am saying is that the u.s. carriers the major carriers, on an average day will board more than 1.5 million passengers over thousands of flights. now, those passengers i understood are in close confines. they're stressed, they're on planes that are already 80 to 90% full. it is if you have a blackout or a disagreement or some form of dispute, eventually one or the other will blow out of proportion. >> it's like a starbucks in the
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morning, people are stressed. you don't see passengers dragged down the aisles. >> c'mon, now, there is a difference there. >> i know. >> the true point you are trying to make t. reality is there is a difference in those sorts of sessions. >> maybe the business model doesn't work or these flights are overbooked or there are too many people flying. but it does seem like flying is much more of a nightmare than it's ever been before and you know flight attendants who i have a lot of respect for and i think have a very difficult job, they're the ones bearing the brunt of, you know, airlines cramming too many people on or having too quick turn around times, not cleaning the planes, things like that. >> i certainly agree with you on the last point that the airline the flight attendants are bearing the brunt of the front line the gate agents are putting under intolerable pressures to perform if extraordinary circumstances in a very, very intense environment.
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i'm not blaming the passengers at all. i'm simply saying, these are very nasty incidents that are being dealt with by the airlines but to suggest somehow the whole system is broken or systemically wrong is a nonsense bearing in mind the size, scale and success of the u.s. aviation industry. >> how can things get better, though? clearly, for a lot of passengers, it is not a pleasant experience. >> well, i think the way it gets better is better training for the staff to deal with those crises situations, a better airline, a better air aviation infrastructure, such as the faa reauthorization so that air traffic control becomes a lot smoother, the delays are reduced and crucially and this is where i agree with as president trump and the former vice president joe biden, their needs to be a vast expenditure on airport infrastructure so that this behemoth can cope with the large
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and increasing number of passengers. >> final question, when you fly, do you wear one of those u-shaped pillows around your neck? do you walk onto the plane with one of those things? >> no, nor do i wear those silly socks. nor destroy the big noise can selling head phones that i walk down to the toilet looking like some sort of lunatic. no no i just sit there quietly in row 96. >> please tell me you don't go barefoot on a plane, that's my pet peeve, walking into the bathroom with their bathroom that, liquid on the floor, it's not water, that's all i'm saying. >> absolutely. i was going to have dinner after this i changed my mind. >> tanks, richard. >> well, up next, president trump has pledged to get tough on america's opioid epidemic, how does he explain a draft memo explaining the brug u drug policies are 94%. we'll look at that. d alone.
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>> welcome back, trump is spending time at a golf resort in new jersey. so, athena, a major setback for president trump's army secretary nominee. >> reporter: hi, anderson, that's right. the white house and the pentagon aren't commenting on this, this is a huge setback. this administration has