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millions of people in east africa have been using cell phones not just for talk and text but for all manner of transactions for almost a decade. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello, everyone. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin with breaking news. the polls are now closed in france's crucial presidential election after a bitterly fought campaign. we're waiting on early estimates now. it's an election that pitted the far right candidate marine la pen against emmanuel macron. la pen, an admirer of donald trump, campaigned on an oon -- calling for more tolerance and more globalization. in a twist that has stunned many political observers, france's two dominant mainstream parties
were completely shut out of the final vote. let's get right to cnn chief international correspondent chris amanpour. macron wasn't even a contender early on. how did we get to this point? >> i cannot tell you the feeling here right now. it has exploded in joy. 65.9% for e mmanuel macron according to the projections. that is even more than he was expected to get in the last two weeks of the second round campaign. and marine la pen, the extreme right wing nationalist, has got less than 40%. this is a big, big deal. the entire world certainly the democratic world, certainly the western world, has been watching this election, because it is not just important for france, but for europe and for everyone.
this after the nationalist populace wave that started with brexit traveled across the atlantic to you with donald trump's victory has now halted for the moment this populace nationalist wave here in europe. and this make no mistakes about it was not just about two outsiders. this was about two dramatic opposing world views. macron, 39-year-old who left the socialist party started his own movement forward just one year ago has managed to get to this .65.9% according to the predictions right now to win an election that he wasn't even meant to be a proper candidate perhaps. not even into the second round. marine la pen whose entire political heritage is based on the extreme right wing movement of her father, antisemitic, inward looking, nationalist, has
lost this election. and so everybody around this country for sure, around europe and around the rest of the democratic world, is breathing a sigh of relief. because marine la pen said that she would conduct radical policies, pull france out of the euro, have a brek sit vote -- and that would have collapsed the entire european union project. pull it out of nato. all sorts of dramatic policies and immediate halt to immigration as well. emmanuel macron exactly the opposite knowing that he has to do something to address the economic issues and bring back more work for more people, especially young people in this country. back to you. >> so voter turnout expected to be somewhere in the area of 75% in france which is a huge number. while we're talking about these
early estimates that right now put macron in the lead, is there a way in which to express the kind of worry or concern across europe pending whatever the outcome were to be here? >> here's the thing. it sounds like a massive turnout and of course it is compared to american turnout numbers and numbers in other countries. but in fact it is quite lower than it was let's say in 2012. the last round of election. and it's lower than they expected for this second round. because generally the second round has a slightly higher turnout. we had something like 80% or just over that for the first round two weeks ago. the big story of this round was that there was going to be a heavy abstention rate and that appears to have come true. and the macron camp were worried that if there was a low turnout it would only benefit marine la
pen because her voters were committed. they were hard core voters who were going to come to the polls no matter what. so many people after the first round said, you know, we are not going to come out and vote if it's these two candidates. they did and they put him over the top. and that has really caused a huge sigh of relief around the majority of this country obviously, the majority of europe, and presumably much of the rest of the democratic world. >> again, final numbers are not in, but just looking at the pictures of the outpouring of support in that beautiful big courtyard-like park where so many have turned out in support of emmanuel macron, what have people there been saying about their candidate, why it is they were in support of him as you look at this very diverse picture of supporters? >> well, you can see here that you've got, you know, thns of the french trickle or the red,
white, and blue being felony. that's important because marine la pen tried to, you know, claim patriotism for herself and her far right nationalist party. macron has come out and said you can be patriotic and french and outward looking and have reformist programs. so the flying of the flag is actually quite important. not only that, the massive number of people who you see on various cameras who are pouring in to the louvre. it is a museum and people will know it for the mona lisa. in the center stands a fairly modern glass pyramid. so you've got old and new. you've got patriotic and reform. you've got all the symbolism that comes with what macron is trying to tell the world. they chose this quite carefully.
it is outside. they're lucky it wasn't raining. it's a little chilly, but that hasn't damped down the enthusiasm of the people who are literally as i'm looking ahead of me, they're not just stacked up behind me. they are still pouring in, flooding in. i've been talking to a lot of my colleagues and i've covered french elections before. we haven't actually seen in the last 20, 30 years this kind of excitement for a second round and for, you know, people coming in from all over to see the results and come to this particular headquarters. the last time there was a risk of an extremist winning the french presidency was when marine la pen's father made it to the second round in 2002. i covered that as well. at that time all the other parties, all of them, left, right, everybody, got together and told their voters to make sure the national front did not win. and therefore, sherack who became president and was elected
won by 82%. this time it's still a big win but it's not as big. i guess, you know, history has moved forward a little bit. there were hundreds of thousands of french people that came out into the streets after the first round last time to say not in my name, no national front will win these elections. that did not happen this time. after the first round, there were no protests in the streets when she came in second and came into the final round of voting. >> now, it can't be overlooked, however, the importance of the rise of la pen and the rise of this populace movement. it made a statement with her win to be in this runoff. but then now what does her potential defeat, again the numbers are not in, the sti estimates just show that macron is in the lead, but if there is a defeat of la pen, what does that say about this populace movement?
>> for now it says that when it comes to the french presidency it didn't win. however, you're absolutely right. it has had more votes than ever before in history and therefore, the issues are still going to be out there competing. what will be very determinative is what happens at the end of june when the french go to yet another round of elections but this time for the parliament. the legislative election. because remember, there's only a couple of national fronts mps, deputies, you know, represented elected officials inside the national assembly and there are no march representatives because it's never been tested by the public. it's a brand new party. emmanuel macron is hopping that he can gather a majority off the back of this election victory. of course, we're waiting to see the full and final election results precisely. but he's hoping that once they get to june, he'll be able to get enough voters to be able to
pass legislation. if not, he's going to have to go into all sorts of deals and coalitions on various issues with other parties. so we're going to have to wait and see how decisive his win transla translates into the as you would call it congressional elections in the united states, parliamentary elections here. >> marine la pen ran on the idea of leaving the eu. you discussed with me some trepidation other european countries had about the potential outcome if it were to be in favor of la pen. again, the numbers are still not in completely. potentially what does this french outcome, the new french president, mean for relations between the u.s. and france and potentially the rest of the european union with france? >> well, look, this is going to be interesting because it was quite clear that president trump probably saw marine la pen as a
soul sister. there was a lot of tweeting that went on. there was a lot of his advisers and others, like steve bannon and breitbart and all the others actually throwing their weight behind marine la pen. because they saw it as a continuation of this so-called populace movement. and even in the last few days, nigel farage of britain threw his support behind marine la pen too. it's important he stayed away from her for a long time. >> you're hearing potentially the cheers of what we're hearing is that estimates show that macron -- stims aestimates are that macron has won. that's the final consensus from the estimates we're hearing. perhaps that is why you're hearing the cheers there. >> she's trying to figure out from people around you. >> we're seeing the cheers, but we're hearing boos because marine la pen's face has just
come on the face and an ally of hers just came out on television. and so we heard a lot of boos then and we just saw her face as well. so this is the, you know, the division that you see in france right now. and there obviously is going to be a lot of major effort to going into government -- governing as we go forward, because there are issues. there are structural problems with the labor market, with the union. so behind us we have a macron supporter -- >> so let me interrupt you while talking about -- i i want to interrupt you for a moment because marine la pen apparently is speaking now. let's listen in. >> translator: seen that we are the first opposition forces to take a new president.
formations who have supported macron have discredited themselves and have lost all kinds of je llegitimacy in want deep change or profound change. we have seen a major decomposition of french political life at the old traditional mainstream parties and what we see now is a real new configuration which is emerging, a rift between the patriots and the new liberals. this is what we're going to fight at the legislative elections and i will head that and to make sure that all people who want the prosperity and security, the identity of france, which we are very concerned about at the beginning of this new five-year term.
and we have to renew our forces at this historic event and i propose, therefore, that we embark on a completely new phase for our party which the french want and which is absolutely necessary for the country to get on their feet again. get on his feet again. i urge all my supporters to commit to this decisive campaign which is going to begin this evening and france will really need you in this. long live the republic, long live france. >> you're listening to what sounds like a concession speech right there from 48-year-old marine la pen, the nationalist right wing candidate. now that we have estimates that she is defeated by emmanuel macron and you heard her describe the landscape as the
decomposition of political life. she pledged there to continue to be a part of the movement. she described an ongoing rift between, in her words, patriots and liberals. so again, estimates now, final count in, we understand that emmanuel macron has won the french presidency in the final phase of voting. in the louvre at paris where it is filled with supporters of macron. were people listening to la pen in that concession speech? her image appeared and people booed. were they listening to what she had to say just now? >> not really. there was a different channel on while that was going on here. but, you know, it's interesting, you know, what she said. that was the divisive speech. she's talking about a conflict
or divisions between patriots. >> patriots and liberals. >> the liberals progresses as she was saying. that was her trying to whip up her supporters for these legislative elections that i was talking about which are going to be decisive for the french national assembly and will basically set the stage for how the next president e mmanuel macron will be able to govern. she did congratulate him to be fair. she has received a significant percentage less than she was hoping for. obviously she was hoping to win. but the prepolls were suggesting she might get as many as 40%. and she's got at least according to right now in the 34% region. again, we're waiting to find the actual final, final figures that they give us. so far the polls and the exit polls have been, okay, she's walking out now, and on the big screen there, they're showing
her. there is a boo going up here. so just to show that this is divisive, this is divided, and people certainly here resent a lot about the national front, particularly the appeal to fear mongering, the antiimmigration platform that she ran on, and the very divisive platform that she ran on which to be frank was in very, very stark contrast to the whole -- to the forward looking, to the appeal to tolerance and reform that e m emanuel macron ran o. yn. you know that politicians, for instance, president obama, the former president, also taped an appeal for macron and said that, you know, everybody was watching and that france was very important to america and to choose the politics of hope over fear. so too did the mayor of london. we know that he's sort of been in touch over the past few weeks
or so. he also ran a very, very divisive campaign or rather the campaign against him was very, very divisive. he always goes out there, the first muslim mayor of london, to tout running and succeeding on the politics of hope and dismissing the politics of fear. so this is what we have. we have these two world visions that are still in competition. whether in britain right now, whether in united states right now and in parts of europe right now. what france has done, coming after the netherlands in march, coming after austria before that, these three countries have said no to fear, no to zeno phobia, no to hate and to this inward looking nationalism. not to say everything's perfect. a lot of work to be done to meet the legitimate needs of all the population. and to meet and to stop this
growing inequality gap across our developed world, but now, again, huge cheers going up because they're showing numbers. 65 65 65.5 and 35.5. that's according to the screen behind me. that is what people are cheering. >> at the louvre there in paris. supporters behind her of emmanuel macron. final numbers are macron would win the presidency there. we're going to check back with you. let me bring in cnn presidential historian and former director of the nixon presidential library and david globe and david andellman is the editor at the world policy journal and a cnn.com opinion contributor. good to see all of you.
david, let me begin with you because the work set out for macron as a new president, do you see it as being particularly difficult coming off what has appeared to be a very divisive campaign and election? we're going to workout those signals there. my french sent up to par right now. david to you first, then, what kind of work is set out now, laid out for this new president elect, emmanuel macron, given that this election his been very divisive and has really showed a very divided country among the 67 million citizens of france? >> i think it's going to be, you know, very difficult. 60% of the people who voted for macron did so because they wanted specifically to stop la pen. remember, the two, you know, all this was a massive vote against the traditional parties in france. macron is only 39 years old.
he's never had an elective office in france. he created his own political party. brek s brexit -- either from la pen and somewhat trump, the globalization, global trade doesn't work. whereas macron is arguing he can make it work. how is macron going to make that happen? how is he going to produce the high paying jobs that working class french miss, that working class americans miss. how does he actually deliver now? >> and david, i understand you're back because my french is -- there have been a lot of comparisons made between donald trump, the candidate, and marine la pen. in fact, both in different ways have expressed a sort of admiration for the other. if this is emmanuel macron who
indeed has won here and estimates show that he has, how does donald trump reach out to the new french leader? how do they work together? >> well, they're going to have to work together. there's no question about that. it's very clear that president obama came down very heavily on the side of now president-elect macron. what is interesting to notice is the level of support that marine la pen managed to get. she gathered nearly 35% of the electorate. that's an extraordinary number for the far right in this country. that makes her effectively the leader of the opposition. and we're coming up five weeks from now on the french legislative election where they choose their new congress, their national assembly and so on. she is going to be in a very, very strong position at that point to really begin to make some changes in this country. and you probably hear some of the celebration behind us for
macron. that's great. but macron's going to have to learn to deal with this new reality unless he's going to find himself isolated with a national assembly that is working against him. that's the real fear. that is why tonight really begins the next phase of the french electoral process which is the legislative campaign which begins now and ends in mid june. >> and tim, there was different messaging, was there not? you had messaging of this populace movement just before the election and now another message has been sent by la pen's defeat. >> well, fred, first of all, let's step back and take into consideration what's just happened. momentum is everything. and what we have seen in europe is that with the exception of england and wales, extreme narrow nationalism has not been popular. and indeed in the united states it's really only brexit where a
popular vote has gone in the majority for extreme nationalism. so this victory by macron has enormous implications, not just for france, but for europe. this changes the negotiations between great britain and the eu over brexit. this strengthens germany. strengthens merkel. it strengthens the idea of europe. by the way, until the election of president trump, it had been u.s. policy to support economic integration. republicans and democrats. it will be very interesting to see how congress responds. i suspect the trump administration won't be that happy, but congress has been committed to free trade. so this is a big moment. la pen's speech tonight was an attempt to spin a real loss. you see, of course she got more than her father did. but she was expecting in the 40s, if not to win this election. the fact that she -- it looks
like it right now, we don't have the final numbers yet, but it looks like she got even less than the last poll result shows that in the end the french weren't willing to jump into the dark with her. i think this is a big defeat for her. and as for the legislative elections, we have to see what happens. but it doesn't necessarily have a strong legislative presence. right now it doesn't have -- it has hardly no presence at all. so let's see what happens. i think this is a great defeat for la pen and for pinched narrow defense ive nationalism europe. >> do you agree with that, that her defeat of presidency in france may be what we have -- which is what unfolded here, does it also not say that there is still this fervent wave of nationalism, this populism? you heard her language there, la pen, and she committed, she pledged that she would continue, that she would help lead this
movement, that she described this riff between patriots and liberals. she described the landscape as a decomposition of potential life. so she still has a pretty sizable following if not just in france, then in other parts of europe and perhaps even around the world. >> i would agree. if her numbers stick at 35, that is lower than expected, he was supposed to be at about 40%, but i think the lesson maybe for europe and maybe even american politics, is this desire for change. and macron, again, being a 39-year-old who created a new party, shows that desire for change. so if you can have a youthful candidate who promises to change things but not in this narrow nationalistic way, that formula can work. and i think that -- so the desire for change is there. can the left or the centric take advantage of it?
>> and david, in your view, if this election, the outcome of this election will change the dynamics of how france is dealing with the uk or even the rest of europe, in what way do you see the outcome of this election changing or impact the way in which the president of the united states is now dealing with the president of france? >> well, remember, macron has said that he wants to renegotiate france's entire relationship with the eu and presumably with the united states as well. so that remains to be seen. i would point out, by the way, one interesting item on these numbers, be a little bit careful about them because these numbers do not take into consideration yet the numbers of blank votes that may have been cast. these are just exit polls and it totals to 100%. we may very well see a three, four, five, perhaps even larger swing once the numbers are tallied. she could wind up over 35%.
that said macron is clearly a winner. there's no doubt about that. now he has a mandate to be able to go out and do some of the kind of things he has promised during the campaign to do. which is to make france an even more global power. that means negotiating with the united states and renegotiating france's role in the european union. i'm not clear exactly how well that's going to necessarily go down with the jugermans or the italians. >> what did this entire election period reveal about the french people, about culture rally an openness to change or lack there of or even, you know, kind of unveil about frustrations? >> well, one thing it really reveal system how passionately the french really do care about their government and their politics and who needs them.
remember, over 70% of the french went to the polls today. almost like 75% of the french actually went out and voted. we had a 58% voting record return in the united states. even for this contentious election between trump and clinton. so the french really do care. this demonstrates how much the french care about who rules them and what kind of a country, what kind of a country they have for themselves, what kind of an image they present to the world. all that is very important. and that i think was reinforced really tonight. that's one of the reasons why you hear all these sirens behind me up and down. people celebrating. what they see as a renewal of the french spirit with a new young and exciting and dynamic person to lead them. they have great hopes i think for the future now. >> to david's point, i thought, you know, david rhodes, the point that david was making was pretty impressive it would be
75% voter turnout. she said that's down from previous years. so there is still some reticence in this election season to be involved or participate, is there? or how do you understand that or what's the explanation behind something like that, david? that such a divisive or polarizing election would not be one that would encourage more people to come out? >> i think it's the same thing we see in the united states. there's a deep cynicism, a lack of trust in institutions, a sense that, you know, president trump said this that laelection are fixed. and yes, it is, even at sf75%, it's lower than the past three elections. macron faces huge challenges in getting people to believe in the french system and the french economy and believing that it can work and they can live positive and productive and fruitful lives. >> we understand that francois
has called. he has dabbled in what it is to execute government. i'm going to take a break with you guys now, david, and i want to make us now to northern france which had been considered a real stronghold of marine la pen. isa suarez is there. what are people saying? >> fredricka, silence and disappointment very different scenes from what we saw early this morning when marine la pen cast her vote around 11:00. she had so many supporters backing her, so many people screaming saying i love you marine. they call her here by her first name. she had people coming from outside of this town to capture a glimpse of her.
this is like you said, marine la pen heart land. this is the french north belt. although we go by the numbers, she has lost, the concern is still huge and she even said in the speech she was playing to that. she basically said i'll be head of those who want france's independence and security. so clearly she's betting on those legislative elections and calling on patriots and that's exactly how she's really pitched herself here in this part of northern france. this is about the globalization and the patriots. the haves and the have notes. the elite. so e mmanuel macron and those w work. this is the forgotten france. that's how she's put it. so macron may have won, but the concern now is how is he going to unite the rest of france? in particular, these people here in northern france have real worries in terms of economy. talking about unemployment, 20%,
that's twice the national average. factories are closing. shops are boarded up. there's a real concern here about not just jobs, but security and also about immigration. this is something that he will have to tackle. also importantly, fredricka, big concern, i just spoke to people here, people just don't trust him. he is seen as one of the elite. one person said he has never held office. he doesn't have a party. he has a movement. so how will he bring these people on board? of course the mayor of this town is front and national. there are the 12 in the country, or 12 national, so people here are proud to have that support, but it will be extremely difficult now for him to try and bring everyone together united france. that's why we had a call here to the patriots from marine la pen. she basically said in that speech, she talked about the rift between patriots and liberals, but also the identity of france is at steak.
>> isa, thank you so much. so the president-elect macron with a very big job ahead of co lessing people there. let's go to international correspondent. he is joining us from a cafe in paris. what are people saying right there to you? what are their biggest concerns? are they happy with the outcome? >> good to be joining fruyou fra cafe in central paris. i want to introduce you to the owner of the cafe where we are here. he's been listening to your program the last 30 minutes or so and looking at the results come in. he's been quietly happy because he is a macron voter. voted for him in the first round and in the second round. your man won this evening. >> yes. i'm very happy and pleased to
have a good night now. >> were you worried about this election? >> yeah. first time i was worried about the possibility to be active in our country. >> you didn't want the far right to be the face of france for the next five years? >> yeah. sure. >> so now that you know that's not going to be the case, you have to think ahead to the person that you voted for, emanuel macron. what do you expect? what do you hope for? >> i'm expecting for him to be able to be able to understand and hear the politics from france, from national maybe. >> you want them to unite the country? >> yeah. and to compose good ideas for
the future. >> when you say we have to change things, what's your priority, for instance? >> good economy. able to be present. politics able to be open mind. >> as a business owner, the economy is very important to you. you told me earlier. >> yes. >> and emmanuel macron is the man who presents himself, portrays himself as the person who's going to be able to put the french economy back on track. do you believe he can do that? other presidents in the past, other candidates have said that. >> not enthusiastic. >> you're not? >> not really. if he's able to talk with us and, yeah, i want to be optimistic. >> you voted for him. why are you not unthuz enthusia? you don't think he can boost
unemployment? he portrays himself as pro business. >> i think it's difficult. people have tried to do that. you have to do something. >> fredricka, you have to understand this is a really interesting point. he is actually a macron supporter is doubtful that the pro business candidate and now the pro business president-elect can actually help businesses. and you said something really interesting. you said it's been like this with a 10% unemployment, the sluggish economy, it's been like this for 30 years. >> yeah. that's what i feel. >> but he presents himself as an outsider, right? >> yes. >> they all do that? you don't believe him? >> yes, i want to believe them. but i need more to be country able to share with others and to be close. you know what i mean?
to close the border and open mind. >> an inclusive country. >> yeah. >> instead of what marine la pen was offering. >> yep. >> but malene la pen wrine la p speaking and she said france voted for continuity. do you think macron is more of the same? >> it's kind of continuing. that's one more time i think he understands that now it has to speak and to hear people around him and so from parts and more social voices i want to be -- i want to believe that he will be able to do that because it's a way to move and go on. >> all right. fredricka, you heard it. the owner of this cafe here in central paris, he wants to believe that emanuel macron will be able to implement the policies that he campaigned on. >> thank you so much.
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tim and david and david are back with me. good to see all of you again. there have been parallels in the french election to the u.s. election that we just experienced in 2016. and when you hear some of the language of some of the supporters, those that we just interviewed in the last hour, sit talking about closed factories, using the word elite to even describe macron. even though he too is considered an outsider. also hearing about the concerns about whether voters can trust the new president-elect. tim, in your view, what do these parallels mean? the outcome very different in the french election. they have chosen the person who's been described as being very inclusive. >> well, free trade has not affected all groups equally in society. whereas consumers generally benefit from free trade because it lowers the cost of things. there are groups in society that don't benefit because their
industry disappears. but it's not always free trade. it's also technological change that brings that about. we have this problem throughout the world. it's a real problem. some of the anger that you saw in the united states, we saw in the united states, is also in france. i think, though, what's really important is to think about how france didn't act the way some people have thought. after charley ebdo, after nice, both political parties in france basically collapsed as we saw on the presidential campaign. and a leader, a candidate of fear rose. it would have been so -- >> no mainstream candidates were, you know, in the final two here. >> no. >> neither of these candidates considered mainstream candidates. that whole issue of immigration tied to terrorism, that was at the core of marine la pen's rise and at the core of this wave of
populism. >> but it was defeated. the point -- what's so interesting is that even though the mainstream parties collapsed, there was an opponent to this kind of narrow view of pat patriotism and nationalism. that's what made this election so interesting in france. >> david rhodes, is there a way to know whether voters in france were watching the u.s. elections as it unfolded looking at the outcome, comparing notes, comparing contrast perhaps, and whether any voters may have used that as a directive in their vote in france? >> trump's victory may have had made macron supporters turnout and vote for him. there wasn't a sense of no way can marine la pen win. i want to say i agree with tim.
this is extraordinary. when you look at the number of attacks in france, the number of victims, paris, nice, across the country, and it has continued to have such an overwhelming victory for a candidate that did not embrace division and fear, you know, is resounding and frankly is a credit to the french people. as i said earlier, macron represents change. and that's the broader lesson i think for politicians, you know, in the developed world. i also agree the developed world does not have a good answer for hour to recreate security and good paying jobs. so, you know, american politicians have got to look at this and see that a young new candidate with a new vision is needed so defeat the more nationalist approach to politics. >> david, is it your view that people were going to the polls there to send a message to the world, to europe, to say this is, you know, my france? this is what france is all about? >> there was certainly a lot of that in it, no doubt about that.
you have to understand the other reason that i think marine la pen did go down to a relatively resounding defeat was that they did not want to do, what the french people did not want to do. they did not want to turn their country over to someone who represented through her father the ideals that france has so turned against. the whole concept of -- and she got into a lot of trouble for this, the deportation of tens of thousands of french jews through the extermination camps through world war 2 ii, something her father said didn't really happen. some of her down side of her, the reason her vote was kept as it was, went down below what levels had conceivably had been was this very great concern by
the french that they really needed to send that kind of message not only to europe and the world, but to themselves so that they could feel better about themselves and their country. they are not a country that disrespects jews, that disrespects minorities. even that can't accept the concept of human rights and immigration represents. i think that was one of the reasons why she was defeated. >> she made that central to her campaign, yet clearly voters have rejected that. her monacre was choose france but they have chosen macron. we're waiting for emanuel macron to greet his supporters there at the louvre. tourists will know it as the place where the mona lisa is. you see the waving of the flags. the french flag as they await
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go to xfinity.com/myaccount . welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. live pictures now of the louvre in paris which is also the headquarters for the now president-elect of france, emanuel macron. you see a number of people there who have turned out all waiting for his first words spoken as the president-elect. he's 39 years old. former investment banker and he was the so-called outsider here. let's bring in jim bennemman. people are very excited there. what are their expectations of this new president? >> well, i think there's a lot of expectations.
there's a love of faith that he's going to carry through on what he said he's going to carry through from. i know you talk in the united states about the first 100 days of donald trump. he set a very high bar. he said a president's five year term in france is either made or broken by the first 100 days. so i think wee going to see a lot of action from him and not the kind of action necessarily you have seen in the united states. but in any case, he will be out of the box here. he's got to name a cabinet in this first week. he has to name all the members of his cabinet. he's going to be inaugurated as president a week from today. he face inaugural -- he has to get the equivalent of a congress elected around him who support his plans and he only has three weeks to do that. he's going to be moving very fast. but we know that he's very organized. he will probably be able to pull it off the way he is hoping.
there will probably be a lot of pushbacks. there is people who voted for him but only reluctantly. they may turnout at some of the rallies that are already being planned to fight this government. there are people here in france who don't believe that -- it's having to be a challenging time but right now it's party time and they're waiting for their man to wait here and make a speech. >> he at some point has to win over the supporters of marine la pen, his opponent. thank you so much, jim. we'll check back with you from paris. the next hour of newsroom starts after a quick break. go to protect your vehicle?
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this is cnn breaking news. right there screams of victory there for e man y'amanuel macro france outside of the louvre. hello everyone. thanks for being with me. i'm fredricka whitfield. we are following breaking news. a stinging defeat for the far right in france, centrist candidate macron defeating
marine la pen. in an election that has been watched here in the u.s. and around the world. we've got full coverage. kris tan amampour is there. let me begin with you there. in paris. this vote seems to be breaking down to about 60% to 40 pf% in favor of macron. that is considered a pretty big win, isn't it? >> it is. 60 sla 60/40 is kind whof what they predicted. it's still incredibly significant because what it is is not just 60/40 win which by any stretch of the imagination in the rest of the world would be huge, but it is a win for one completely opposed political vision of the world over another. and that is