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marine la pen. in an election that has been watched here in the u.s. and around the world. we've got full coverage. kris tan amampour is there. let me begin with you there. in paris. this vote seems to be breaking down to about 60% to 40 pf% in favor of macron. that is considered a pretty big win, isn't it? >> it is. 60 sla 60/40 is kind whof what they predicted. it's still incredibly significant because what it is is not just 60/40 win which by any stretch of the imagination in the rest of the world would be huge, but it is a win for one completely opposed political vision of the world over another. and that is macron, the centrist, the tolerant, the
outward looking, the pro-european, pro-engagement with the rest of the world versus the far right national front marine la pen who is inward looking, who wanted to suspend all immigration, wanted to pull out of the eu, nato and all those things and really campaigned on fear and loathing. that's why this is so big. up until now the french have always banded together to make sure the national front gets nowhere near the highest political office. this time it was a little touch and go. you didn't see the same number of people coming in to the streets after she won the first round. and this is an incredibly poisonous political party that started under her father on a platform of anti-semitism, denying the holocaust on which marine la pen layered all sorts
of phobia. around europe there's been a lot of congratulations. i think what's really important is that the rest of europe knows that they dodged a bullet tonight and they have come out and supported him and especially the jury mans. basically the leaders of europe have said that in order for us to support macron as he makes reforms in france to be able to fix the employment problem of so many people, then we have to help him by cutting back on this program that we've had basically since the crash, since 2008. so that is very, very significant, what the germans have said. and it could begin to change the economic equation and try to -- and make people understand that the major european leaders are understanding the hurt that many of their employees and workers have been going through over the last several years. >> now let's talk about the potentially relationship between the u.s. and france. former president barack obama
did inject himself into this election and he threw his endorsement behind emanuel macron. president trump at one point leaned toward la pen even though one of his most recent tweets he said the french election and quote unquote interesting. how will trump be -- how will he be reaching out to macron after this kind of landslide win in terms of how they find common ground? >> i just had a macron spokes person. it is the first word we've had out of the macron headquarters. we had an exsluclusive. she hasn't talked to anybody yells. she said we have to work with the united states. yes, we won. maybe president trump would have preferred marine la pen, but we were elected democratically just as he was and we have to be able to work together to address
massive global issues, for instance, the fight against terrorism obviously. but also for instance the french are very, very keen obviously to protect the global climate change of course that was struck right here in paris in 2015. and you know the trump administration is trying to figure out are they going to get out of it, are they going to stay in, are they going to look for legal loopholes to diminish u.s. participation. they are obviously very, very keen, because all of europe is to keep that intact. the climate of course. so they will be meeting. macron and trump at the g 7 at the end of the this month and it will be a chance to see how this relationship resets. i think what's vital to understand is that brexit and nigel farage, donald trump, they all believed this was an unstoppable wave of pocpulism, nationalism, call it what you want, that was going to move around the whole democratic
world. france is the most important of all these countries having elections right now in europe to have said no, it stops right here. and france comes after netherlands did that last month in march. and after the austrians did it a few month before that. they said no to very close elections that pitted pro-europe gaer versus nationalism. macron is pespeaking right now. >> thank you so much. emanuel macron. >> translator: my gratitude to all of you who have supported me. and voted for me. i won't forget you. i will put all my care and energy in being worthy of your trust. but at this moment it's up to all of you citizens of this country that i want to address. address as to your choices.
many difficulties that we conduct for far too long and i know none. not the economic difficulties, the moral weakening of the country, the political weakening, but today i want to address a greeting to my adversary. i know that the country is divided and has led to people voting for extremes. i understand the anger, the anxiety, the doubt which many of you have expressed. it is my responsibility to hear that. protecting the most vulnerable, organizing solidarity, fighting all forms of inequality and discrimination in struggling, fighting for your security and by guaranteeing the unity of the
nation. because behind every single word that i have spoken, i know that there are faces of men and women, children, and families, whole lives. there are you and your near skpeest and dearest and it is you tonight who i am addressing. all of you together. the people of france. we have duties to our country. we are the heirs of a great history. this history and message we must transmit first of all to our children and more important than that we have to take them into the future and give us a new vigor. i will defend france, its vital interest, its image, its message, and i take -- make this commitment before you. i shall defend europe, the
community of fates which the people are confident that chosen. it is our civilization which is at stake, our freedom, our values and our hopes, and i shall do everything to strengthen europe and the people who form it and our citizens. i address on behalf of you a salute from fraternal france and i assure you that france will be for international cooperation, for security and development and also fight against the climate change. i want to say to everybody that france will be in the first rank fighting against terrorism, internationally and domestically, and we will lead that fight as long as it lasts
without weakening. dear citizens, a new page in our long history is turned this evening. i want that page to be that of hope and refound trust. the renewal of our public life will be that of everybody tomorrow. the renewal of our public life, democracy from the very first day of my presidency will be the very foundation of my activity and i will not let any obstacle come in nmy way. i shall act in determination with everybody. because jobs, education, and culture are at stake. we will build a better future. men and women of france, dear citizens, i want this evening to salute president holland who has worked for five years for our country and in the next five
years my responsibility will be to allay fears, to make sure we become more obptimistic. my determination is to bring all men and women together. to confront these gigantic challenges before us and to act in some of these challenges are enormous. like the digital revolution, the europe and others are threats like terrorism. i will struggle with all my strength against the divisions and it is only that way that we can give back to the people of france, to each and every one in their professional and family life the opportunities that france owes you.
we must love france right from the very beginning. right from this evening i shall with humility, and devotion, with determination serve france on behalf of you. long live the republic. long live france. >> you're listening to the french intellect emmanuel macron. as you see at the louvre his supporters who are at the headquarters waving the flags there because this is a victory for emmanuel macron. you heard him in his victory speech saying he understands the anger and the anxiety and the doubt. his responsibility is to hear that. he is pledging that his five year term he will try to address all forms of discrimination. this election has been described as very divisive as he took on the right wing candidate marine la pen who in her concession
speech, she talked about the landscape of a decomposition of political life there in france and that she saw a rift between patriots and liberals. you heard macron there say that he, in the next five years, his responsibility is to allay all fierce. we also have with us senior political analyst ron brownstein and then at some point we'll also go to the northern portion of france because that was the stronghold of the la pen support. that's where we find isa suarez. ron, let me go to you. la pen represented that populist movement. with her defeat now and with macron's words there, committing to an inclusive life there in france, does that mean that puts a real dent in that populist
movement that has been traveling globally? >> as she noted before, the wave so far this year has crested in europe europe, in austria in, netherlands, now in france. the la pen type party, all of which have fallen short. and afd has lost a great deal of support in polling. but i think this election just underscores how politics across the west is being reoriented around a new fault line. you see in paris a coalition of transformation in which you have a co lalition of voters, white collar, who are essentially comfortable with a more globalized integrated diverse world. then you have on all fronts whether it was donald trump here in the u.s. or brexit in the uko la pen, you have a coalition that's mostly nonurban and that is uneasy about demographic,
cultural and economic change. you feel that they're being left behind or slighted. this is is the fault line. in the first round of voting. la pen won less than 5% of the vote in paris. we'll see the final numbers, but i assume it's going to be very low again. this is where we are seeing our politics divide certainly here in the u.s. this was the fault line in this election. it is increasingly, that is becoming the more traditional dividing line of class, kind of the fault line that is reshaping politics in country after country. >> of course, french elections very meaningful to the u.s. david acelrod former campaign manager of obama -- will trump reach out? how would you answer that question, ron? >> he has to. president trump was very cautious in his language for
most of the campaign, though he did at some point clearly put a thumb on the scale for la pen when he said that she was strongest on immigration, strongest on the things that have been happening in france and certainly steve bannon has spoken before. >> and then more recently he went more neutral by describing it as interest. >> he basically made clear, you know, that he was closer to la pen as in fact he was. and there's no alternative but to work with an ally as important as france. but it was striking that in macron's speech he talked about reaffirming the desire for example to deal collectively and globally with climate change. when the president may be on the drink of pulling the u.s. out of the paris agreement. this is a very different vision. macron within further than i think hillary clinton did in explicitly endorsing the vision of a globalized world working together against problems. she kind of hedged the scales a little bit much more on trade and kind of left her between.
so he is someone who is defending the eu, defending kind of global cooperation. it is a stance that will i think put him in conflict with president trump on many issues even if they say they want to work together. >> and then there at the louvre there, earlier you were talking about, you know, trump and macron are going to be seeing each other at the g7 which is this month. macron is going to be inaugurated in just a week. immigration has been at the heart of this rise in populism. we just heard macron say that he was determined to bring all people together. what might that first meeting be like between the two given trump's stance on immigration versus now macron's on immigration? >> well, you know, fredricka, i don't think they'll have much to say to each other on that particular level because we're talking about the united states all the way across the atlantic and europe. it's a very different immigration and refugee
situation. but certainly he will talk to the president as his spokes woman told me about their joint struggles against terrorism. also about what the french hold very dear and so do all of europe about hanging on to the heart and soul of the paris climate. we will all hear reports about when it was designed in december of 2015 which as you know the trump administration is having sort of this internal struggle as to whether they're going to abide by it or not, whether they're going to sneak through legal loopholes. but the french absolutely want to hang on to it. that is what motivates young people all overeurop europe. you saw on his platform french together and that will be the challenge. because let's face it, even though he won, it is absolutely basically unprecedented that a far right extremist party that
was built on anti-semitism and denying the holocaust that now led islamaphobia on top of it has got whatever it turns out to be, 35, whatever the percentage turns out to be. that is a big deal. >> it's going to be very difficult. perhaps one of the biggest obstacles for macron to now try to appeal to the supporters of la pen now that he is president-elect. thanks so much. we'll get right back to you. we're going to take a short break right now as we continue to follow the victory now of centrist candidate emanuel macron there in france. when you booked this trip,
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centrist presidential candidate emmanuel macron. he was considered an outsider as was his competitor, right wing nationalist marine la pen. and affiliates -- our affiliate there is conveying that the estimate was a 60/40 kind of split of macron winning today in this second and final phase of french elections. let's talk more about the potential impact want just for france but for the eu and across the pond here in the u.s. back with us senior political analyst and senior editor for the atlantic ron brownstein and senator mike lee, boyd matheson. glad you could both with us. we heard from macron in his victory speech. he tried to layout words of comfort, especially as he said he wanted to allay the fears sof many. since this underscored the
division between the voting public of a population of 67 million there in france. he pledged that we have duties to our country. he said france is moving toward, quotes, hope and refound trust. boyd, when we talk about the endorsements leading up to the election, president trump loosely endorsed or had kind words i should say for marine well pane ala pen and called the election interesting whereas barack obama laid out a flat-out endorsement of emmanuel macron. did either one of, you know, those people, trump or obama, in any way influence the outcome of this french election? >> i don't know that it was a great impact by either of them weighing in on that. i do think the thing that's fascinating is that both of the major political parties were
rejected in france as well, just as they sort of were here in the united states. and i think what the president-elect of france now was able to do was able to transcend the anger, the fear, the frustration, and actually get to an agenda. i think that's why he was the winner today. it makes you wonder what would have happened here in the united states had there been serious alternatives to both the democratic party and the republican party who were really both kind of dividing the people and the people were saying you know, i'm not really on to the hillary band wagon, but i'm not real comfortable with trump's nationalism either. it will be interesting to see how this continues to play in france and what those ramifications will be back here in the united states. will it lead to more offshoots from both the democratic and republican party? because frankly i think the american people are tired of both. they feel like both have kind of left them behind. someone with an agenda, not just the anger and fear component, but a real agenda could really change the game here in the u.s. >> at least for macron among --
part of his agenda he says he's determined to bring all people together after such a divisive election. and just as we were speaking, boyd, president trump did send out a tweet congratulating emmanuel macron on his big win today. i look very much forward to working with him. so ron, they will be meeting face to face for the first team in the g7 this month. what will that meeting be like? how will macron either layout what his expectations are or vi versa. >> i've been covering politics since 1994. i don't think i've seen quite as dramatic as a ral ly in the shadow of the louvre. i think it's pretty incredible. there is some area of overlap on
isis. and recognizing the threat that poses. but in terms of kind of the role of the global community verse shifting power and back toward individual nations, toward global integration and the economy, toward the free flow of people and products and ideas, they are on very different pages. as we said, even in his victory speech, he talked about maintaining action on climate where the president may be days away from removing the u.s. from one of the biggest diplomatic achievements of the obama administration, which is the global agreement for a paris climate treaty. as i said before, you are seeing politics being kind of shaken from the axis because we have a new divide. we have a new fault line that doesn't entirely trap with the existing political alignments in many countries where essentially politics is being slit along the lines of transformation versus restoration. you have voters who are fundamentally comfortable with a more globalized world, more
demographic diversity. you have voters who are uneasy about demographic, cultural and economic change who are more blue collar and not urbanized. marine la pen won 5% or less of the vote in paris in the first round. i'm betting it wasn't a lot higher. now a depressed blue car towns. here in the u.s. hillary clinton won 88 of the 100 largest counties in the united states, an incredible unprecedented number but won only 400 of the other 3,000. this is how politics are dividing and in many ways it is straining both parties to adapt to the kind of opening that boyd talked about. >> ron, boyd, if i could ask you to hold on tight. we're going to let the music flow a little bit to our break and we'll be right back as folks in paris, they're celebrating the win of emmanuel macron. we'll be
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welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. a huge victory party there at the louvre in paris where that entire esplanade is covered with people and flags. all pouring out in great support of the new president-elect of france, emmanuel macron. 39-year-old investment banker. considered an outsider. someone with no elected political experience. however, he was a finance minister under president holland administration. holland has already sent great congratulations to emmanuel macron. also there in this flood of people there our own christiane a manpower w
amanpour. kind of pledged his dedication to an inclusive government and allay the peers of those filled with anxiety and anger. christiane? >> well, it just started up again, this amazing music. i think you're in a discoteque. we're waiting for him to turn up. he's already delivered his speech at his headquarters and that was projected on huge screens her at the louvre. right here literally tens of thth thousands of people have been pouring in to hear the results which were at 8:00 p.m. local. they're still coming in. it's a great big party and they're waiting to hear from their new president himself. i must say watching his acceptance speech at his headquarters, he was very sober. you could see the magnitude of the office that he had just won weighing on his shoulders. he's 39 years old.
he's never been elected to anything. he started this movement by dropping out of the socialist party, dropping out of the socialist government of president holland and deciding that france needed something different. and he started this one year ago. here he is today as the next president of france. and this is not just any other election. i've covered many french elections. this is as different as i've ever seen. firstly, it pitted two dramatically different world views against each other. emmanuel macron proudly outward looking pro european, centrist, and wanting to gather everybody into the big tent of hope and light and wanting to do everything to move away from the very divisive election campaign that his opponent marine la pen had waged. even in her concession speech tonight she talked about ongoing conflict. she used that word. between patriot, which she calls
herself and her own party, and liberals. macron has had on his podium tonight, french together. he wants to bring everybody together. he is not going to concede the patriot badge to anybody. he says we can all be patriots. we can all be reformists. we can all be tolerant. we can look out and we can make a better future for france. so this huge for france, huge for europe. we should feel a total disillusion if marine la hen approximate won. she wanted to pull france out of europe. that would have been dramatic. they created europe 40 odd years ago. we've had amazing response from europe and actually very dramatic political response from germany where they have admitted that they cannot at this time keep pushing the austerity
project. they said we cannot keep pushing this project. that was from the foreign ministry. it was very, very important. they talked about germany having to rethink its economic european wide project right now. so it's very important moment for everybody. back to you. >> the ramifications are huge. they really cannot be overstated. when you talk about varying global views between la pen and macron, i mean, clearly there were other differences in them as well. their demeanor. in the last debate it was described that la pen really kind of went for the jugular. she had a much more kind of attack approach whereas he took a much more diplomat i cic appr. just listening to his word in the victory speech he talked
about the inclusion, the determination to bring all people together. what about whether this strengthens the eu as well by way of this victory for emmanuel macron who was very much been in support of the eu, of keeping nato together as opposed to la pen who wanted to dismantle both? >> well, it's a huge victory. as i said, it's the difference between europe continuing -- and i'm not being dramatic . it's the difference between the eu continuing as a union or not. marine la pen was determined to do everything she could to pull france out of the eu. i spoke to the president of the european parliament about a week before the elections. a week before the first round. i said to him, so, you know, do you have a plan "b" in case marine la pen wins? and he said no.
we have no plan "b." we are just sure she's not going to win. and i have to say it has been a very brave campaign by emmanuel macron at a time when europe, britain, to an extent the united states, really sort of crowding out the european vision, the european project. he proudly stood with european flags and french flags. he said we can be both. we can be proud patriotic french and we can be open outward looking and european. 72 years of peace, a massive trading block of 500 million people, and guess what? even though many people in france are hurt, economically, even though france is at a turning point in sort of its identity, france compared to many other countries is doing well. it has a very good social net and a very good economy compared
to many other countries. yes, things need to improve. and yes, politics needs to be more inclusive. and yes, they need a break away from the old way of doing political business. but no, they voted against the politics of fear and hate and the extreme right wing white nationalism that marine la pen promised to this country. they've done it. but we still have legislative elections to go next month. macron has to get himself a majority or at least some working group in parliament who doesn't have a party. he doesn't have mps. he's got to go that route as well. this is an ongoing political project. but today the french showed something that the rest of europe and the rest of france is pleased that they did. >> a divisive race. one thing we can be both french and european. the other one, la pen, marine la pen saying choose france and
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tweeted out a congratulations saying congratulations to emmanuel macron on his big win today as the next president of france. i look very much forward to working with him. the two will be meeting face-to-face for the first time as the president-elect and the president of the united states both in attendance at the g7 later on this month in may. let's go now to our international correspondent. he is at a cafe. maybe not too far away from the louvre where it is like a huge party scene there. you have been talking to people there in a much more controlled setting about their thoughts about this french election. what are they saying? >> fredricka, it's really interesting, actually, when you step away from the campaign headquarters and from the mass rally that's going on right now at the louvre, in support of e m manuel macron, you get a much more subtle picture of what they think. in the cafe behind me we spoke
to several macron supporters. you would expect them to be overjoyed. it looks like a lopsided victory in favor of macron. but when you speak to people here, they're not over the moon. the reason for that -- well, you can put emmanuel macron voters in two categories. first of all, there are those who are enthusiastic, who believe that he's going to boost the french economy and take good ideas from the left and right. but you also have a significant part of the french voting population, the reluctance emmanuel macron voter. people who voted for him because it was a way of keeping the far right and keeping marine la pen out of power. they would have voted for anybody who would have been in a runoff with marine la pen. those people are seeing the macron victory and they begrudgingly accept that he is their new president, but they know deep down that they weren't in favor of him so much as they
were against the other guy or in this case the other lady. that's marine la pen. it's a very interesting dynamic. it's going to be very important for emmanuel macron to sort of handle this as he prepares to govern, because the numbers, the 65% or so people who voted for him don't refleck tt the level support he has. >> either way in terms of this is the second phase, these were the two top contenders after the first phase when there were at least six, wasn't this considered to be an election of change? both candidates were running on change. but it's macron who would end up winning even though many of the la pen supporters would describe him as an elitist, somebody who will not be able to bring back the factory jobs that have been lost in the outskirts of france. what is it about macron that does elicit hope?
is it the issue of that global inclusion, that message that he sent? >> yeah. we were speaking to you earlier and we had the owner of the cafe here, if you remember, who was a macron supporter. the reasons really for his support were that, a, emmanuel macron is young. so there is a chance, it is not a guarantee, it is not a given, but there is a chance that mr. macron will bring some new way of governing. and they're not sure this is going to happen, but they're keeping their fingers crossed that this might happen. that's number one. number two, they believe mr. macron may try to rule with support from both sides of the aisle. the left and the right. and come to some common sense conclusion. it's what american viewers like too which is bipartisan ideas. and that's something that in france hasn't been happening a lot. power has been shared between the left and the right and back from one to the other.
mr. mack kron ron is saying i'm to bra break those codes. key to his ability to do that is going to be what happens a month from now. the parliamentary elections are seen as the third round of the presidential election. those will determine whether he has a majority in parliament. >> yeah. and how will he live up to that pledge for this five-year term. his pledge. my responsibility is to allay fears and my determination to bring all people together. thank you so much at a beautiful cafe in paris. we will be right back.
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welcome back. live pictures right now, right there at the louvre in paris, france, where people are waving tricolor french flags of blue, white and red, all in support of the victory of a 39-year-old investment banker who just won handily. emanuel macron, now the president-elect there of france. he ran on a campaign of global inclusion, of pro-european
union, pro-france, pro-nafta. and people there holding signs that say "hope beats hate." and in a victory speech not long ago, he also said he wants to allay fears. he says he is determined to bring all people together. macron will be inaugurated just one week from now. then later on in the month he will be at the g7 where he will be face to face with, among country leaders, president donald trump. so momentarily we also expect that macron will be meeting face to face with a number of his supporters right there live at the louvre there in paris. all right. tonight on cnn, anthony bourdain takes you through spain. he visits san sbagebastian wher world renowned chefs serve up
exquisite request zecuisine. >> >> reporter: juan marie has been my mentor and friend since i met him, steadfast and loyal in every way a person can be. father and daughter are two of the greate esest chefs in the w. >> bueno. >> you are happy. zwl very. i lo i love it here. [ speaking foreign language ] ♪ >> reporter: these what are you call pinchos around here. not tapas. these incredible batteries of delicious, delicious things, generally located near one another so you can easily, and very pleasurably, go out for what's called a "bar crawl," grazing for the specialties of each place. >> yes, i am hungry.
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