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good evening, james comey is days away in saying publicly that the president of the united states tried to pressure him to drop part of the russia probe. we just learned about another possible contact that's being investigated. if it's true, it's yet another instance in which contact went undisclosed. jim sciutto joins us now. what do we know on this? >> republican and democratic hill sources and intelligence
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officials briefed on the investigation tell myself and my colleagues that congressional investigators are examining whether attorney general jeff sessions had an additional private meeting with russia's ambassador during the presidential campaign. investigators on the hill are investigating additional information including schedules with sessions. they're investigating whether a meeting took place. where then candidate donald trump was delivering his first major foreign policy address, prior to the speech, then senator suggestions and russian ambassador sergei kislyak attended a session with organizers, diplomats and others as well. in addition, the fbi is seeking to determine the extent of interactions with the trump campaign team may have had with russia's investigator. this is part of its broader counter intelligence
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investigation neither hill or investigators have proven a meeting took place. >> has attorney general sessions said anything about this? >> we reached out to the attorney general and a short time ago we got a statement, the department of justice appointed special council to assume responsibility for this matter, we will allow him to do his job. it's unfortunate that they are continuously trying to hinder that process by head elling stories to the mainstream media. the then senator did not have any private or side conversations with any officials at the mayflower hotel. >> if it's true, and we don't know, this would not be the first time they didn't disclose. he said he did it as a senator,
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that's why he didn't disclose it, right? >> that's right. >> during his confirmation hearing, sessions testified he does not have any communications with the russians during the campaign. he said the same in a written statement submitted to the senate judiciary committee. when reports emerged in martha he had two meetings with kislyak one in july and one in his senate office in september. sessions then conceded that the meetings happened but insisted they were part of his senate duties and had nothing to do with the campaign. sessions was recuforced to recu himself from the investigation. he was asked whether there were any other meetings with russians besides those two. here was his response. >> have you met with any russian officials since you endorsed donald trump? >> i don't think so.
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we meet a lot of people, so -- >> from those two meetings you discussed with the ambassador. >> i don't believe so. >> later that week, when sessions updated his sworn testimony he acknowledged the two meetings with kislyak, but did not mention any encounter at the mayflower hotel. >> james comey will testify before the senate intelligence committee. we know when and what he is expected to say the general area he's expected to say. it's promising to be very big. and another story breaking tonight having to do with subpoenas. the house intelligence committee issued several subpoenas to whom? >> four of them related to the russia probe, those were issued to president trump's personal lawyer michael cohen. michael flynn and both of their
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business entities, those were for documents both men were reluctant to turn over. there were three other subpoenas unveiling the identities of americans in intelligence reports, this all relates to the unmasking request made by obama officials. susan rice and samantha power. congress continues to ramp up all of their investigations. >> house intelligence aide expects that came from devin nun nunes. nunes recused himself from the investigation for now? >> this has been stirring a lot of contention within the committee. the fact that devin nunes despite subpoena power, that's drawing concerns. chairman nunes can in fact still unilaterally issue subpoenas,
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one senior house intelligence aide tells us those three subpoenas likely came from chairman nunes himself this was discussed a few days ago. he talked about, and said he wanted a committee vote on all subpoenas that were issued. this this case it looks like it didn't happen and it looks like he entered these independently. >> what are we expecting to hear? >> the details are still being worked out, sources say that comey fired -- he will go before the senate intelligence committee. and this time we are expecting he will recount his run-ins with the president. the most intriguing details that could come if he recounts the meeting with the president. where he was asked to drop the investigation into michael
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flynn. comey wrote this all down, and we do know that comey has spoken with special council robert mueller, to work out the parameters of his testimony, he will likely sit down with mueller for a formal interview afterwards. it looks like the possibility will come from james comey next week. >> he's going to work out the parameters. he would limit his comments to his thoughts about what the president -- what he believes the president was trying to convince him to do? >> we think he will stay away from the nitty-gritty of the russia probe. we anticipate james comey will talk about those interactions with the president, the possible pressure he felt from the president. we know that meeting in january, the president asked for that personal loyalty, those are all things we're expecting from comey when he testifies.
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>> there was a lot of reporting about, he had taken notes at the time. and maybe had written a memo which people had seen. do we know if he would read from those notes or be allowed to? >> that remains to be seen. >> that is the big question here, if people have seen these memos. if james comey has them in his own possession. it's unclear if he will take out these memos and read from them it's likely to say he'll do it from recollection much. >> i want to bring in the panel, the wall street journal's eli, laura and phil. eli, let's start with you. how big a deal is this? on the senator sessions, we
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don't know if there was a meeting, it's being investigated. if there was that meeting that hadn't disclosed along with the other meetings, how big a zeal is it? >> it's part of a drip drip drip of revelations that have come out after the fact of people with ties to the russian government, the reason that's a problem, obviously, the ongoing investigations, multiple investigations into possible collusion with russia going back to the campaign. and the other investigation going on, possibly related to an obstruction of justice charge, we don't know which way that's going to go publicly it doesn't look like an administration that's been transparent in disclosing all these contacts. they may have had lots of meetings. given where we're at in terms of the investigation. i think it could lead to just more questions and more pressure
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on the administration and on attorney general jeff sessions. this is happening when he's involved in the search for a new fbi director. >> we don't know if this meeting is taking place. if it did take place, it would seem to undercut sessions explanation that i didn't mention those other two meetings because it was in my role as -- in my capacity as a senator i met with the russian ambassador. >> if it's a day ending in y, we have another leak coming out. we don't know enough at this ti time. >> a big event that was broadly attended. there were hundreds of people in the room, we don't have any of these details yet. i think this is a distraction, that's the reason it was put out there, especially as president trump has come back from his successful trip last week overseas he can't help but notice the political motivations behind this? >> is that what it is? >> i don't know who the sources
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are, these are serious bricks in a wall i am certainty president feels like the noose is tightening a bit. every single day there's another story that makes people wonder, what was it they were trying to hide? what was going on underneath all of this cover-up that caused caused people to freak out so much. why did paul manafort change the rnc platform, it starts way back there. i have a list of 18 different bricks in this wall that are really going to come down. this goes back to why don't we have an independent investigation. the senate is doing a good job so far. an independent investigation would really -- >> i was going to say that -- the biggest development in this
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whole case, could be that jeff sessions already recused himself. his deputy appoints mueller. that may end up being a definitive turning point if things go downhill for donald trump. donald trump did not want sessions to recuse himself. he wanted him to stick it out and once he did that that opened the door for the special prosecutor. >> comey sitting there describing conversations, he had with the president about the russia investigation and any sort of pressure or what he believed was pressure from the president do you think the white house should be nervous. do you think it's appropriate in a comey should talk about this? >> about your 18 bricks in the wall, you started the whole discussion with the proposition,
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if a conversation took place by jeff sessions, we based six minutes of air time on a supposition that may or may not have happened. james comey comes up with a memo after the fact he testifies in march. he said, that would be extraordinarily, i've never experienced it, all of a sudden he has a memo after he has meetings with the president. >> do you think he's lying? >> i don't think he's a credible witness. he had to correct his testimony three times because of misstatements, one of which was dramatic, he said there were tens of thousand e-mails the fbi had to review between huma abedin and anthony weiner. look what happened, he has to go back and say it wasn't tens of thousands.
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it may have been less than a dozen? this is not what i would call a credible witness, i don't see any panic on the white house or the president. i see an investigation that everybody wanted to see a special council, now there is one, now the conflict is between the house, the senate and the special council if the former fbi director wants to testify, he has to be careful what he says also. he settles from a little bit of selective disclosure disease, quite frankly. >> phil, you worked at the fbi. >> look, let's be clear here. he's not going to talk about the subjects of investigations, those people include individuals like general flynn and paul manafort, the fbi has a tremendous hammer in this situation that the congress doesn't have that is whether to bring information across the street, whether to bring indictments against these individuals. >> would you allow your client
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to testify before the united states house and senate with what you just said? >> no. >> would you? >> no. >> would you allow your client to testify? >> first of all, i'm not a lawyer. i would not allow my client to testify. >> don't make -- >> jay, jay -- we like to let people finish their thoughts, no one at home can understand. >> i don't think the former director of the fbi is going to talk about investigations of people around the trump campaign, i think he's going to talk about what happened many months later, his recollections and recommend branszs of what happened with the president of the united states. one comment by the way on jeff sessions, the conversation i've heard is not accurate. if you're in government, i didn't report that stuff all the time anderson, i look at what they're talking about in terms of jeff sessions, there's one question, it's not whether he met a russian, whether that conversation was substantive.
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when i got my polygraph, i got hammered and went back to work. that's it. >> i'm asking you on a legal standpoint could the white house make the claim that it's inappropriate for director comey to be discussing things he and the president talked about privately. >> there is a privilege issue. james comey is going to testify in public but he wouldn't testify in private to a senate committee? why? i want to follow that up with this question. why in the world, if we have a senate investigation, a house investigation and now a special council would the media -- and due respect anderson, why would you make it -- the media generally, make such a big deal when a lawyer suggests that they're not going to comply with a request for the house or senate. if you're a lawyer, you know what you tell your client? no. we will assist.
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this idea of dualing investigations never works out very well for the individuals involved. what i think here is, james comey has to be careful, if he's going to start disclosing conversations by the way. with the president of the united states when he under oath said he never felt political pressure to start an investigation. next week he says there is, that's a serious problem. >> first of all, the fifth amendment is not a carte blanche to comply with subpoenas. it doesn't always apply to documents, it doesn't apply to anything that may incriminate you. to say it's carte blanche would be erroneous. >> who said it was carte blanche? >> the point i'm making here is the idea that the fifth amendment would somehow immunize
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you from being able to testify. a good lawyer would advise their client not to testify without adequate protections. that only makes sense. however, here you've got the former fbi director who has been asked to testify about quite discrete points. and to that he may not have certain protections. there are constraints put in place by the special council and that are appropriate. simply because there are parallel investigations going on. with two very different objectives, does not give people the automatic right to say, i'm going to say nothing. the goal of the congress ap investigation is to be able to figure out what laws or legislation can be put in place to correct an issue that may have been. the criminal investigation is very different. it may or may not lead to criminal charges. i refuse to look at the credibility of a witness in a
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vacuum. >> hold on. we have to take a quick break, we're going to continue this conversation, and focus more on the advisability or not of director comey's testimony after a quick break. later, snoop dogg is saying why didn't i think of that? why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. you want this color over the whole house? is to always keep track of your employees.r micromanage them. make sure they're producing. woo! employee of the month! you really shouldn't leave their side. vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. are made with smarttrack®igners material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. see how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50% faster today at mattress firmness? fortunately there's a bed where you both get what
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some call them veterans. we call them our team. i want to let you respond about what was said before the break about director comey's testimony. >> he's under oath, he stated there was no political experience with the fbi. what's he going to say, the president did it? they were you have to correct his testimony again? >> he's in a unique and difficult position. the fact is, this was a mistake of his own creation.
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he intervened three times in a presidential election. he's the one that lacks the credibility of evidence. i want to say something here just for the are record, anderson p.m. these metaphors about nooses and necks, they're not the right statement. you may fundamentally disagree with them, but let's be realistic, the president is not sweating over this. the question is, was there russian collusion? and what exactly is collusion? what does that even mean legally? that's the fundamental question dershowitz has been asking. >> first of all, i don't know. he seems -- i don't know the president, but he certainly seems to be sweating. >> in my view, he wasn't. >> okay, well, why is he tweeting out disparaging comments about john brennen, of course. >> john brennen who said there's no evidence of collusion. >> well, these witnesses are all
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about honor and integrity and -- >> but, which witness said there was collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. which one said it? >> i am just saying that you cannot -- before people start testifying like jim comey. >> they've been testifying. >> your strategy, the strategy it seems on your side, is to discredit these men. let's let the investigation play itself out. i don't think as a human manner that discrediting these two guys publicly is a good strategy on your part. >> let's go to some of the others. eli, from a reporter's standpoint, comey is going to have to be careful. to jay's point, there's an ongoing investigation by a special counsel. he's close to mueller, he's growing to be talking to mueller. clearly, he's going to be clearing with mueller what's going to say.
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>> our reporting has been they have had those conversation. it would be nice if you could let this flynn thing go. that's sort of already out in the public record, it is out there because of leaks that seem to have come from -- if not comey, someone close to comey. jay makes a good point the former fbi director by getting over his skis on a couple things, by entering the political fray and being so conscious of his public appearance will strike a lot of people as a partisan figure. the white house has the problem too, when they try to discredit everybody. they dodge protest too much. and the president looks like he has something to hide too many i think less is more. >> do you think -- the president had said james comey is a grand stander. you request make the argument that -- to jay's point that the fbi director going yet again --
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demanding there be an open hearing, not a closed hearing it does play into what the president said, he wants the public attention. >> right. i think that james comey is an honorable guy, as everyone knows, he went to the bedside of john ashcroft to prevent a horrible situation during the bush administration, he is someone who 3r50ids himself on being a boy scout. it's interesting that that could be a fault of his. he wants to be seen as a very honorable decent person. and ironically, finally, that has gotten him in trouble it does seem a little bit like he's a show good boat. i do think he's an honorable person, though. i think this is a har binger of things to come. >> do you think it's okay that
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james comey's having discussions with the special council as to what his testimony is going to be? you think that's a good thing? that a witness is going to discuss with the special council what his testimony is going to be? >> here's what i think -- >> no, is it okay? >> are you cross examining me? am am i under oath? >> you can't hand emthe truth 37 you're not hosting this show. >> how about the special counsel -- >> i'm not going to answer your questions. you came here tonight, you are a partisan hack, you came here tonight -- >> the partisan hack that's argued a dozen cases in front of the supreme court. >> is it okay if i answer anderson cooper's question? >> that would be good. >> jason, let me ask you then. is there not a piece of you a loyal supporter of donald trump,
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are you nervous at all about james comey coming forward and saying whatever he's going to stay? >> no, and what i want to see is director comey answer the question of why he didn't go public at that time and tell everybody as we saw last year, he stepped forward when he saw things supposedly happening in clinton world. he felt compelled to step forward and say something. the other thing i'm looking forward to director comey answering, did anyone at the doj mutt any political pressure on you to stop this investigation. why didn't he take that opportunity to say, you know what, that was someone else. the other thing too, for all these people that are linking these details and these meetings out. has director comey instructed any of these people -- associates of james comey would
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be a great band name. i'm concerned about how many people that have information that's not on the public realm. >> you recollectioned you saw the president today. can i ask you in what matter? >> i'm trying to get an american pastor out of jail in turkey. you all were helpful in the previous case we had. i appreciated bringing that to the pastor in iran, it's a similar kind of situation. >> anderson, if i may. >> can i just ask you, are you a counselor of the president in any capacity? >> no, when i have conversations with an administration official it's covered under privilege. i view my role as a lawyer any time i'm talking with anyone. i was there on behalf of my client advocating the release of a citizen -- he's been in jail
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for nine months in turkey. his wife was under investigation, they got picked up as part of the coupe sweep, you know how difficult things are in turkey. i'm trying to get him out. the president's been very helpful. he asked president erdogan to release him on many occasions, i believe we'll get him out. >> thanks very much. just ahead, you say covfefe, what does it all mean? police have just released dashcam video of tiger woods arrest and dui charges. he was asleep at the wheel. when you have allergies,
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a little over 20 hours ago, president trump fired off this tweet, covfefe. about six hours later it was deleted and the president trump tweeted who can figure out the meaning of covfefe. sean spicer was asked before it at today's briefing which he gave offcamera. >> do you think people should be concerned the president posted an incoherent tweet last night and then stayed up for hours? >> why did it stay up so long? is no one watching this? >> the president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant. like -- >> what does he mean?
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>> blake? >> what is covfefe. >> that really happened. instead of saying it was a simple typo, spicer doubled down. >> david, this tweet from the president, i mean, i'm not sure what to say really what does covfefe mean to you? >> it means nothing. maybe he fell asleep while tweeting last night. he was talking about the fake news media and trying to disparage some of the reporting that's out there. it clearly also meant something to have fun with, this morning when he woke up and deleted all that tweet, he told his twitter followers to figure out the meaning and enjoy. >> gloria, a lot of people have been enjoying all day on this. president trump based on sources you talked to, people who talk to the president say he's just kind of angry, not trusting
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people around him not happy with anyone around him. does this tweet figure into that? >> it kind of does, anderson. imagine him home alone at the white house, it's midnight and he's tweeting about his negative press coverage and clearly it's something that he is obsessing about constantly. and even at midnight and he is -- i don't know why he ended the tweet with covfefe, but he gave up, cen willy. you can imagine him being alone and mad and feeling he has nobody to talk to and he has to do his own press. and so he started but he stopped in the middle of it. >> the explanation from sean spicer, the white house had 14 hours to come up with something, and the best they could come up with, the president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant. those who know about fight club aren't supposed to talk about fight club. this appears to be the same thing.
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>> this was nuts to me. the white house, by sean spicer doing that, it seems to me the white house was trying to continue the covfefe conversation and the cable chatter and the news chatter, they would much rather that be the conversation. >> i don't think you need to say the covfefe conversation, you can say covfefe. >> just continue with the covfefe i guess. his explanation was like, hey, i'm going to throw a conspiracy theory into this, and i'm going to enjoy this and get reporters out there buzzing about it, because it's a distraction. >> it's interesting that the white house does -- or sean spicer doesn't just say, you know what, it was a mistake. >> yeah. >> people make msz takes. the president's a human being, we all make mistakes on twitter and then either correct them, delete it or apologize and explain or move on. people make mistakes, it seems
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like this white house -- they're so stressed on being strong, everything's strong that any sign of a mistake is a lack of strength somehow. >> and that's donald trump. donald trump -- i mean, you remember the campaign. donald trump never admitted to a mistake, he never came out and said, i apologize to any of my republican colleagues for calling them all kinds of names. he doesn't do that, he doesn't do that. so what they were trying to do -- >> he did apologize for what he described as locker room talk, which i won't go down that road again. >> yeah, he did. >> but it wasn't a -- we won't go down that road again, but this is -- this is a president who doesn't like to admit mistakes, so what they tried to do was to kind of pull the press's leg. you guys, this is my interpretation at least. you guys are all into conspiracy theorys, here's another one for you to talk about. what's the conspiracy of this word. it's kind of red cue house.
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there is no admitting a mistake, there is no admitting a meeting didn't go as well as you thought. a relationship with angela merkel isn't anything but unbelievably good. >> what does it say to you about how the white house functions. from the initial tweet to the president's response to sean spicer's briefing? >> this entire episode it seems to me is a perfect example of how much they are not in control of their own destiny at the moment. they want to keep pumping this distraction because of russia and other headlines. they can't even get out and control this. sean spicer breathes new life into it, what is completely silly fashion, and to me, it's an example of a communications operation that doesn't know how to proactively get out there and sell the president's agenda. >> how about making a funny joke about it? why not do that? he's offering a double covfefe
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this morning. or something. that would be what a press secretary would do, except not this one and not in this time. >> good covfefe, thank you. >> thank you. the president is expected to pull out of the paris climate accord. his advisers are deeply divided on the issue. could they change his mind in the 11th hour?
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at today's briefing, sean spicer would not say whether
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president trump has made a final decision on the paris climate change. the u.s. would become the third country to reject the accord along with syria and nicaragua. the president said he's still hearing from a lot of people both ways. that's a quote from him. >> he said he will make this decision very soon and make the announcement very soon. sources have told us the president is expected to withdraw from this agreement, they're still figuring out the mechanism exactly. i was telling sean spicer at the podium today, not on camera, he wanted to be very careful not to get in front of the president on this. he would not say whether trump has made a decision about it. when he does make a decision, he does decide to announce it publicly, all of you will know. he referred to trump as the ultimate decider. he promised to pull out of this
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paris climate agreement. he's called climate change a hoax in the past. many leaders left their meetings feeling disappointed with the language he was using. >> do we know who in the white house has the president's ear when it comes to this particular issue? apparently opinions are divided. >> this is like so many issues in the white house. it really splits the west wing. we know rex tillerson, who the president was meeting with just today has been advocating for the president to stay in this agreement. we know that ivanka trump has been pushing the president to stay in it. rick perry is pushing for him to stay in it there is a different wing that's been pushing trump to keep his campaign promise. steve bannon is saying get out. you promised to do this on the campaign, now follow through. trump's epa administrator has made a similar argument to him.
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that side seems to be winning. as we've seen time and time again, until the words come out of his mouth, things can always change. he has a way of moderating the things he's going to say. and sometimes changing his mind completely. >> as we said, president trump vowed to pull out of the paris accord during the campaign. he said so repeatedly. >> the paris climate deal, i believe so much in the environment -- people are shocked. we will cancel this deal so our committees can compete. >> including all global warming payments to the u.n. >> we're giving billions and billions of dollars away, we have no idea for what. >> we're going to fix our own environment. >> i've won many environmental awards, i am not a believer in
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climate change. >> we want clean beautiful air and crystal clearwater. >> in 1890, they had the greatest flood. in 1901 they had the greatest rainstorm, look, it's weather. >> as a citizen, he's also called climate change a hoax. if he makes good on his campaign promise, we want to talk about the potential fallout joining us now is van jones and jason miller. if the president does decide to back out of the paris agreement, i mean, it was one of his campaign promises, it is what he ran on and voters elected him. he said he was going to do this. should it really come as any surprise? >> whether he said he was going to do it or not do it, this is the dumbest thing he can do. this is an american president
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pulling the rug out from under an american industry. this guy says he wants to have america first. the one part of the economy that's growing faster than anything else in the economy, bar none is our clean energy sector. we got more people working today in solar than we have coal minors. we have more people working in wind than coal miners. this is a dynamic section. if we're going to be first we should be first in this. why would the president of the united states pull the rug out from under an american industry and hand this advantage now to germany to beat us in wind to china to beat us in solar. it's the dumbest thing he can possibly do. don't even ask about climate science, just talk about the american workers. >> it's totally nuts. >> you started off this statement correctly saying we don't know yet for sure if president trump is going to withdraw the u.s. from the paris accord. there's an important point to
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say, right now, myself and van are debating. van worked with green energy and green jobs in the obama administration, and myself as a conservative republican, we also support the environment, president trump supports the environment. we're all on the same side here, we want to make sure we have clean water and clean air. we can't gut our economy and go and fight with both hands tied behind our backs with both countries cheating on this. >> this is a going sector? >> no, you look at the amount of money that gets pumpsed in. let's talk about what this accord could do? it could cost the u.s. economy upwards of 400,000 jobs over the next 10, 15 years. electricity costs could go up 13 to 20%. could reduce household earnings by upwards of $20,000 a year. there are a lot of disadvantages, you don't think that china or india or russia
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are going to play by the rules when we're talking about a paris accord? >> i do think that you're a smart guy and i'm a smart guy, you're not as smart as jeff immalt. exxon is for it. the top ceo's in america are begging this president do not do this to us. and he is throwing them under the bus. you have an agreement that american captains of industry say this is great for us and donald trump on some crazy campaign promise apparently is going to go against the american industry and workers. >> so we're still waiting for the white house to give us the final word. the president may come back and say he's going to stay in the accord. here's the thing where i think a lot of folks who helped elect the president are concerned about. we're going to let other countries dictate and -- >> that's not true. >> when you talk about the global climate fund they dried
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to raise $10 billion for it previously. the u.s. put up $3 billion. now they want to take it up to 100 billion even though some of these international allies in europe want to see us go and stay in it. but they're the same ones who are out trashing the president. >> there are so many things that you've said that are just wrong. and i can't even get to all of them. please listen to what i'm saying, folks at home. here's the reality. you have a situation right now where 100 plus countries are all onboard with this. the united states is in a position to be the world leader of supplying this technology. americans -- people who put this thing together are not idiots. this is setting us up to win something. and this guy is coming in -- yes, there is a climate fund to help some of these poorer countries get onboard. all that's going to do is set them up to be our customers. i just can't believe -- >> but van, there's no enforcement mechanism. you understand my point.
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the point there is no enforcement -- >> but you're arguing two things. on the one point, we're going to be forced to do stuff, but on the other side, there is no enforcement mechanism, and each side can decide to not -- it's all voluntary. >> let me explain that. once the u.s. enters into it, since we're a country that absolutely follows the rule of law, we'll go through and pass rules and regulations to meet these standards, where i don't think these other countries will. i think that's very easily -- >> van, what about that point? >> here's the deal. that's not, in fact, true. this thing is a very flexible agreement. there is not -- listen, you would be correct if we were talking about a treaty. this is an agreement. it's flexible. if it turns out we can't meet our targets, we can back out, we can move. but what it does is, and why american ceos are begging, please don't move the goalposts here, is it sets a clear standard for everybody and we can outcompete folks. germany, right now, is going to beat us on wind if we back away from this thing. china right now is -- they're
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already beating us on fabrication for solar. listen, i cannot -- i wish we had an hour to go on this. this is the most -- the biggest opportunity for jobs, innovation, and entrepreneurship in america. and the president of the united states is about to throw it under the bus, possibly. and it's wrong. >> we'll see what the white house decides, van jones and jason miller, thank you very much. up next, more breaking news. florida police release dash cam video of tiger woods' arrest on a dui charge. he says he was using prescription medicine and fell asleep at the wheel. we'll show you the video in a moment. i guess i was born with a crayon in my hand.
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points out that one of his shoelaces is untied and tiger woods has difficulty figuring out which shoe is actually untied and then can't tie his shoelaces. so much so that the police officer says it's best for him to take off his shoes. then the officer asks him a few questions and tiger woods' speech is slow and slurred. take a listen. >> have you had anything to drink tonight? >> i don't know. >> are you sure? >> yes. >> 100%? >> 100%. >> okay. have you taken any illegal drugs? >> no. >> have you taken any medication? >> yes. >> what have you taken? okay. do you remember what happened when my partner came up behind you? >> no. >> do you remember being asleep in the car? >> no. >> you don't? okay. >> reporter: then after that, the officer tells tiger woods, sir, you probably shouldn't be driving. anderson?
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>> the police conducted a field sobriety test. what do we see when he tries to complete them. >> reporter: you know, he has a lot of trouble. it starts off when the police officer asks him to put his feet together. he really can't do that, the officer says, closer. closer, please put your feet together. and he can't do that. then the officer asks him to follow a light with his eyes only. and the officer says, sir, you're not even looking at the light. then he asks him to walk in a line and he has a lot of difficulty doing that. and then finally he asks him to say the abcs and tiger woods responds, uh, not recite the national anthem backwards? shortly after that, anderson, he is arrested on suspicion of dui. >> and he's obviously said that it was a prescription medication. it's, obviously, known that he's had back surgery. rosa flores, thanks very much. up next, there's more breaking news from washington, including another possible undisclosed contact between jeff sessions and russia's ambassador.
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two breaking stories tonight. word that fbi director james comey will testify before congress and say that the president pressured him on the michael flynn russia collusion investigation. and possible top contact between a top trump associate and russia's ambassador. if it did take place, it's another example of this incident happening. jim sciutto joins us now. what have you learned? >> democratic and hill sources and intelligence officials briefed on the investigation
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tell myself and my colleagues, jamie and shimon, that congressional investigators are examining whether attorney general jeff sessions had an additional private meeting with russia's ambassador during the presidential campaign. investigators on the hill are now requesting additional information, including schedules from sessions, a source with knowledge tells cnn. they're focusing on such a meeting took place on april 27th, 2016, at the may flower hotel in washington, d.c., where then candidate donald trump was delivering his first major foreign policy address. prior to the speech, they be senator sessions and russian ambassador sergey kislyak attended a small vip reception with organizers, diplomats, others in addition to congressional investigators, the fbi is seeking to determine the extent of interactions the trump campaign team may have had with russia's ambassador during that event. this is part of its broader counterintelligence investigation of russian interference in the election. neither hill nor fbi verdicts