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for the act of these terrorists. we will not allow them to win or cower. the police and experts and all of us are finding new ways to keep us safe. londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. no reason to be alarmed. one of the things that police and all of us need to do is make sure that we are as safe as we can be. i'm reassured that we are one of the safest global cities in the world but it's we always evolve and review ways to make sure we are as safe as we possibly can. >> easier said than done, i guess. the attacks began with sheer panic on london bridge as a van ran down pedestrians. one witness said people went flying into the air and one had
to jump into the river thames to avoid the van. this is the van that drove towards borough market. patrons came streaming out of the restaurants with their hands raised. they had been told to do that in these incidents. witnesses say the attackers charged inside and started stabbing people. authorities say 48 people were taken to hospital across london's. french citizens are amongst the victims. we have this picture taken by a witness that shows two men on the ground at borough market. we don't know if these are the assailants but police say they shot and killed all three attackers who were wearing fake explosive vests. so far, no claim of responsibility. nic robertson joins us from one of the cordons. nic, i mean, we're going to be talking about the same sort of
thing after manchester, after westminster, after nice, after berlin. is there anything different about this attack? >> the number of people, berlin, a single person. nice, a single person, westminster, a single person. here there were three people that worked together. but i have to tell you, the police cordon has been pushed back and collapsed in and literally have been standing on the street passed by several hundred young people. they are walking down the street in a line. they spent the night out, not able to get to their hostels because they were inside the cordon. but the police are letting them come forward. what we're beginning to see is the police beginning to relax their lines here. they moved the cordon. we were around the corner here just up the street.
it has been pushed further down the road behind me. compared to this time last night, this time last night, max, in this very location my producer and i were literally being chased up this street by police running at full speed because there was clearly they were afraid of. they wanted to clear the area. this was not done in an orderly way. it was absolutely panic and hectic. as we were running up here we were confronted by heavily armed police in special forces, black helmets and balacavas and automatic weapons. it is changing. the situation is calming and the police are beginning to let some people back into the area that was cordoned off. not sure when it will be opened fully. but this cordon is drawing in, max.
>> yeah, i was here last night and hotels were being evacuated as i walked through, the whole area. a massive lockdown. isa soares is with me as well. you have been throwing the proce -- following the series of events here. >> we don't know much in terms of who they are. but we know there was more than two people. that's what we have been hearing. we of course are in early stages of the investigation according to the metropolitan police. but let me give you a sense of how it unfolded. the first call at 8 minutes past 10:00 in the evening. there were people out drinking and busy areas of borough market. and this area, too, and what we had was these men in this van plowed into people on the bridge, hitting people, i think when the van was just swerving around. they then ditched the van there and on foot went to this area of
borough market. this is a very busy area. lots of restaurants and food stores and posh food stores. very busy. they went on foot to this area with knife. rampage.s described as a it really was. >> weeard from one person that saw it happen. basically going into this restaurant and just started stabbing people. we then know that the police shot these two who had some sort of phony bombs wrapped on their bodies. and that period from beginning to end took eight minutes. >> incredible work by the police. and busy area to make that bold decision to shoot two or three people. >> absolutely. and what police were saying is run, hide, tell. and people were trying to do that. people were being pushed back, telling everyone far back. people with their armed raised.
this shows how alert london is in many aspects to what we have seen. but waking up on this sunday in a state of shock because of course this is the second or so terrorist attack in two months, max. >> the election is on thursday. it's interesting to hear sadiq kahn speaking. one of his messages was not his normal message. we have to continue living our lives but he was making the point you have to vote on thursday what do you think he meant big bi-that? >> he said terrorists can not stop democracy. they would not allow us to deter us in our pursuit of democracy. but interestingly he said when he was tweeting when this was all unfolding he said this is a deliberate and cowardly act. today he uttered the same message and talked about also the response of the medical
teams here and the police, praising them. but interesting talking about this election saying they cannot stop us. we must go out and vote although we know already that campaigning has been postponed until we don't know for how long. but you can imagine this is not a time to be knocking on doors. >> it's not really the time -- the psyche of the country after manchester and london is it a good time to hold an election? >> this is what many people will be asking but you can't letter resists get in the way of your daily lives. the country must move on. and politics goes on and you need someone in control and that sense of leadership needs to be there. so it's crucial that message from sadiq kahn who is also the first muslim mayor of london. >> we don't know, you know, i've
got no claim of responsibility so far on this and who is behind this. >> and he said interestingly this is one of the safest cities. >> doesn't feel like that, does it? >> i don't think so. >> here's the time line of events as we know it, isa took you through the basics. they began to receive reports that a vehicle was striking pedestrians on london bridge and the van crashed just past the south end of the bridge and the attackers left the van on foot and stabbed people in restaurants in the borough market there. eight minutes after the first reports came in police say they shot and killed the attackers and those policemen are being praised by the authorities. let's get more on all of this from steve moore. pretty extraordinary that within eight minutes three people in a very busy area were shot and
there is no questions about whether they were the attackers. we are waiting for the confirmation but it seems as though they were. >> it certainly seems they were. and you're right, max. this is not just getting there within six or seven minutes but identifying the target and making sure they were not innocent people and engaging them successfully. this was moment after moment after moment of success. and we know that for every minute that an active shooter is uncontested one person will die. so the quick response literally saved lives and you can count the lives that they probably saved. >> in terms of the type of attack, it has more moxie than the westminster attack. so people driving into a crowd
and jumping out of the vehicle with knives, that sort of attack we can expect to see in london because it doesn't have a gun culture but there is always an alternative to guns. >> you can melt down every gun in the world and people will still kill people. this is a new type of attack that the terrorists are using call -- the british called it a m marauding attack where you start with one means and finish with another means and kill until you are stopped. >> what do we learn from it, though? >> what we learn from this is that you are not going to be able to protect every place. if not this location, if not borough market, if borough market is an armed encampment they can still find a mcdonald's. i challenge anyone to drive down
the street tomorrow or today and see a place where there isn't a crowd of people that wouldn't be vulnerable. what we have to do is put more people into this and delve deeper into the communications and the type of propaganda that is coming over from isis and the type of people who are consuming this propaganda. >> the cordon has just been lifted as you are speaking around us. the road is quite busy now where it was closed off. what does that suggest to you? that the investigation is conclusive so far? >> i would suggest it depends on whether that has been completely released. if so that's a very quick crime scene investigation. i would guess they're still working in certain areas. but right now, max, the real effort is not necessarily the crime scene. it is going through all their
records, all their files, all the information that they might have on these guys. they're going to be close friends maybe even brothers but they are going to have appeared on somebody's radar. and if they haven't we have missed something terrible. >> okay. steve. thank you. there will be the inevitable questions about what the intelligence service knew about the attackers. after manchester that was a huge issue. we'll wait and here what they had on these guys. but obviously so many terrorist suspects across the country and they can't follow all of them. it takes 20 to follow each one of them. six people dead and 48 hospitalized and three assailants have been killed. we'll be back with more after this break.
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this is what londoners are wake up to today, police on the streets, cordons around a big part of central london just south of the river here. we are standing where the cordon was. it has been moved back which suggests the police are across the investigation here in london. we learned last week how they throw police officers at these terror attacks and this is the latest one in central london this time. authorities say six people have been killed. 48 others taken to hospital. some of the victims were french. police trying to clear the streets during the chaos. the london mare praised the response team. this started when a van plowed into pedestrians on the london bridge. one witness said he saw someone jump into the water to avoid getting hit. this all happened around 10:00 p.m. local time on a busy
saturday night. so far there has been no claim of responsibility. samuel burke joins us live from scotland yard. this does stand out as a terror attack because more than one person was seen as the perpetrator. >> and the most important part of this investigation right now, police tell us is to make sure they have accounted for all of the tngers. they are working under the assumption that the three men they shot there in borough market were all of the attackers. but they say this is the initial phase of the investigation so this is an assumption and they are making sure that all of the attackers are counted for. there are two things they are doing right now, carrying out the physical investigation here on the streets of london. we have seen that increase police presence already. all throughout the morning an increase in the amount of unmarked police vehicles
whizzing by here. but they are carrying out the digital side of that investigation. we had the police out here asking londoners who were in the area to upload any and all images they captured on their mobile phones to a special witness. the police are not just using that video and time stamp on facebook, twitter and instagram to put together their own time line but trying to analyze the photos and videos to make sure that everybody is accounted for in terms of the attackers. and some of the video that was uploaded to social media shows how chaotic and intense that situation was. you and isa were explaining how the police were able to do in eight minutes to the time where they kill the lee attackers. in that short time span you can see how quickly they are moving and you see the police pouring into restaurants and not knowing who is an assay leilant.
and people pouring out of the restaurants and the police again having people put their hands behind their heads so they can quickly find out who the attackers are. and i want to tell you what one eyewitness told us. he said all of a somebody came up to the restaurant and said there is a man outside stabbing people and people went to the back of the restaurant trying to hide and one or two of the attackers came in, stabbed a waitress in front of everybody and stabbed another patron and left the restaurant. it's these type of videos that police want to get. you see people recording on their cell phones and they want to get that so they can understand every aspect of what
happened, max. >> okay. they will be throwing a lot of resources at this. we know that following what happened in manchester. and alongside samuel you saw the defense secretary going into the emergency cobra meeting. they're meeting today to try and make sense of everything that happened last night and what they'll do is have their top counterterrorism officers and top intelligence officers and top ministers in the country assessing the latest intelligence and making sense of that. after that we expect to hear from the prime minister or a senior cabinet minister. that's where we tend to get the latest on the intelligence here. so when those cabinet ministers get around the table with the head of the m.i. 5 and the head of the metropolitan police what
do you think they will be discussing? >> the first priority is to see if this is part of a larger group that could carry out follow on attacks in the coming days. that's number one priority, make sure this is a contained event so that the group is not more diverse. that's what they are going to ask, what do we know about these guys? could there be others ready to carry out follow on attacks. that's number one. and they will get down on the weet wee weeds of who these guys were what they were doing in the uk and what their connections were in the community or whatever groups they belong to. and they're going to see, you know, if there are technicals out there to follow that need to be suppressed that could be a continuing threat. >> is it interesting to you that
it wasn't a lone attacker this time? >> no, i think what we saw in manchester the lone attacker, he was a lone attacker but part of a much larger group. these three could be part of a much smaller group in that they could have carried out all the planning and things themselves because of the lower sophistication of the method of attack in this particular event. so it's a larger group but overall a smaller group. i know that may not sound like it makes sense but in the sense that they didn't need an extensive network to obtain a van and a machete. these could turn out to be three thugs that were unhappy and got themselves all riled up into carrying out one of these attacks. i personally believe it has to
do with ramadan and the call by isis to step up attacks in the west during this period of time. i could be wrong about that. but that is my personal judgment at this point. we'll know more as the day goes on. but i think that, you know, it doesn't surprise me that this type of attack took place, you know. we saw multiple attackers in france and them before. it doesn't surprise me this took place, no. >> are the authorities popping up because it's not teresa may's decision but an independent decision made about the threat level of the country. it was lowered last week and increased after the manchester attack. does that suggest to you there was no intelligence on this? >> it indicates there was no intelligence leading them to think that this particular attack was going to take place.
now the restroom after manchester appeared to say there was an imminent attack likely and that's why they raiv raised the threat level. i believe that was related to intelligence from that attack and they suppressed that with the dozen or more arrests in the days after manchester. the threat was neutralized, i believe and they had no more intelligence to think there was any more threat. and they lowered it. i don't think this group is related to the libyan cell in manchester. the meth of attack is different and the level of sophistication is much lower. i think the intelligence surrounding the manchester attack did indicate follow on possible threat and i think that might have been suppressed by good police work and by the
authorities in the arrests that took place. but i don't necessarily think that this means that the threat level should not have been lowered. we're going to see if it does come out that there was intelligence that would indicate another attack there are valid questions on why the threat level was lowered. but the attack and the way it was care yours truly out in no way do i think there was intelligence that would have stopped this type of attack. this was a crude attack that could planned on a low level with little communication. this could all have been done in the back of a pub somewhere over a couple of beers and you know, if it didn't take a lot of contact with people in foreign countries or people with any level of sophistication even in the uk.
it's possible that there was more on the network and we'll find that out. but i think the lowering of the threat evitable you know, may have been appropriate for what they had and i don't think that just because this attack took place means that was a mistake. >> thank you. the threat level is decided by an independent committee. ministers are meeting with security officials discussing the latest intelligence on what happened last night. we'll wait to see how it feeds into the threat level and whether or not it has to be reconsidered. teresa may is speaking with donald trump last night tweeting earlier saying we need to be smart and vigilant and tough. we need the travel ban as an extra level of safety and a bit later he said whatever the united states can do to help out london in london and the uk we will be there and we're with you, god bless.
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more taken to hospital after two terror attacks in the heart of the city on saturday night. multiple victims stabbed in the borough market. and aehle raced across london bridge slamming to crowds. a van appeared to deliberately aim for people. others say one person was thrown 20 feet into the air. london police shot and killed three men within eight minutes of initial callout. the office of the french president confirms that french nationals were among the victims. there has been no claim of responsibility for the attacks. it has been two weeks since people were killed after a manchester concert. a man was standing outside when people came running down the street in panic. >> i would say six or seven
times we heard gunshots down the street and that first one heard about ten, 15 gunshots. >> where exactly did you see the men in the vests that you described were they right outside your restaurant? >> there were two men one of which we saw the vest on and one of my colleagues was so good he was like, he's like that's not such a good guy. he was honestly one of the heroes in it all. he told everyone he saw the vest and told everyone to get back and told me what it was and we put everyone to safety. and with the vest and we were worried about explosion. >> did it look like a suicide vest? did it look like pictures of a suicide vest? >> i just saw like big packets
around his stomach but nothing went off. taken there were police lights all on the body making sure they don't move like police are doing a good job very quickly. i didn't see any casualties or injuries. all of our customers were okay. if we didn't get them shuttered down when they were shooting and may have died outside the restaurant or something, i don't know. >> isa is with me and is going to bring the story home for us. you had a very dear friend caught up in this as well. >> he was in bore report market. although the road behind us is open there is no sense of normalcy. similar attacks we saw when we covered nice and berlin there is very low tech way of attacking people. so at 10:00 basically, police
got the first call, these men in this van that we saw plowing into people deliberately swerve eight cross london bridge. then they ditched the van and with their knives -- >> why did they get out? >> we don't know at this stage. we know very little about them. we know they were swerving and hitting people purposefully. when we covered berlin they were plowing into people because there were so many bodies they couldn't move forward. i don't know if that was the theory. >> what would borough market have been like? >> it was a beautiful day in london, people were out drinking and eating. borough market has a lot of upscale food bars and lots of bars, restaurants and that was -- it was really very busy, speaking to a colleague who was there two hours before this all
unfolded and she was said it was a beautiful night in london. >> and they were running through with knives? >> going into restaurants and stabbed a police officer and a couple of people in a restaurant. when the people saw that, many hid and started running. but the period was eight minutes between the first call and the time they were killed. >> you are saying this is a busy area, people sitting down in restaurants and the police managed to find their man and shoot them. >> that's why we have heard the mayor praising the police services for their heroism and how quickly and well they handled this. eight minutes in a crowd of people when you don't know who is who is difficult. >> they had the vests on? >> the phony vests and that's how police were able to put them down. we know very little about who they are. we have been hearing on social
media they look mediterranean. we don't know. we have to wait for police confirmation. but this is a city on high alert. pl people are clearly on edge. and although sadiq khan has said this is one of the safest cities in the world i don't think people will be feeling like that. >> we are so proud to be londoners but there is a question about should i go into central london today? >> do you think like that? >> i do. i wasn't in london when it was all unfolded. >> but knowing someone that was caught inside -- having a friend hiding, texting me for an hour asking me to call the police it brings it home. doesn't it? >> it does and it keeps happening and we are questioning what we can learn from these. >> we have police today when i was coming in early hours this
morning -- >> alarmed us before but now it's reassuring. >> just a few minutes ago there was a bag left unattended. now we are very, very much unedge. >> feels like a new normality. and we know all of this being discussed at the cabinet meeting and we're going to bring you the details as they come into us.
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that was just a few hours, ambulances rushing to london bridge where we are following breaking news for you. six killed and 48 taken to hospital in a pair of terrorist attacks in the british capital. the french citizens among the victims according to the president's office in paris and there have been no claims of responsibility so far. here's what we know, then, in the first incident, a speeding van plowed down pedestrians on london bridge and then drove to borough market. patrons went running for their lives as the attackers started
stabbing people. we have this picture taken by a witness which shows two men on the ground wearing fake explosive vests. we don't know for sure if these were the assailants but they shot and killed three in borough market within eight minutes of receiving the call. it's extraordinary how the police are responding to these incidents. >> sure, and you know what is even more, i guess, heartening is the way people are responding. i saw several restaurant owners say they immediately began huddling their patrons into the back room or basement. it's unfortunate that people have to get used to this but it's good to see that people are take action quicker and it's saving lives. people are wise to some of these
events and they, you know, caution is the better route to take. i think they're reacting to these things quicker, the public is. and i think that that -- part of these guys wearing these fake suicide vests in addition to keeping the police away, you know, if this knife attack, members of the public might be more willing to engage with a chair or something else on somebody attacking someone else with a knife and wearing the fake suicide vests will keep members of the public away from engaging them as they carried out this attack. >> thank you, bobby. earl robinson is at downing street and you have that high-level emergency meeting taking place right now. >> that's right, a cobra meeting, the prime minister chairing it along with the heads of security intelligence, defense, and other key cabinet
members like the transport secretary also expected to be present. she is going to give information on what the police know and on the attackers who they may be connected with. it will be a first gathering for that information. and if we look at the manchester attack the cobra meeting the morning after remembering this attack came in the 10:00 p.m. hour at night. the following morning the prime minister cared a cobra meeting but it wasn't until the cobra meeting later in the day that she actually announced a change in the security threat level. so, perhaps, it would be too early in the day to expect that at this meeting but this is where she will be considering the implication of the knowledge and information that is gathered before she can begin to, if you
will, present a message to the people of britain that one would expect and she would hope would calm the country. you know, this is the third attack in two months. so there is a lot on the prime minister's shoulders this morning. the election a few days away. this attack and what to do about it, and this is the first of what we can expect to be a number of these cobra meetings, max, in the coming days. >> the election, as you say, just a few days away on thursday, the conservative party suspending campaigning yet again. so that's going to be a couple of days, peopleablresumably. what does this mean for the election? >> and sadiq kahn, the london mail said that some have already voted in the postal ballots.
and we must show resolve and we have to show them that hate thrives. there may be others that feel they are unfairly or unreasonably unsettles the political equation and that has been shift and the polls tilling away from the prime minister the last couple days tilting to the labor party and further down the road could be an inference that this would have influenced the outcome of the election. that is something that would have to be considered but it does seem at least from the voices we've heard so far that this is a process that the country and the government is committed to and there isn't a possibility to go back. you know, schools will be planned to be closed on this thursday so that polling can be held there. there are many other places that polling will be held. there is scheduling for this week remembering 11 days after
the election, the brexit negotiations begin. you don't change the date of an election over night. so i think it's too soon to say. we need to hear from the prime minister. however, i think the prepondance of the expectation but it's too soon to say until we we have heard from the prime minister. >> and we expect to hear from her in downing street in the coming hours. we'll go live there when she does that. back in a moment.
the terror attacks in london come ahead of a memorial, a benefit concert on sunday in manchester for the victims of the may 22nd suicide bombing at the ariana grande concert. despite on what happened on saturday the benefit is expected to go ahead as scheduled and it will be more poignant after what happened in the capital after manchester comes to grip with what happened. as phil black joins us from there. >> manchester seems to have got
back to normal. last night, bars and restaurants were full but things are not normal here. not entirely. there are armed police everywhere. heavily armed officers and in the center of town, people are coming to the site of this memorial to reflect and think about the 22 victims of that attack. that took place outside the man chest are -- manchester arena less than two weireks ago. a benefit concert to send a message will be more so now because people are dealing with processing the suffering they have experienced. today they will be feeling empathy for the people in london, the shock and the anger experienced there as well. pulling off the concert will be a challenge logistic click call.
and emotionally. it is still so soon after the attack. less than two weeks. the police have acknowledged that not all the victims thought it was a good idea to proceed with this but most-wanted to. there is tremendous good will to make this happen and it is expected to be especially poignant and powerful after the events that have taken place in london overnight. >> i know you have been working on general election stories as well and then they are suspending campaigning as expected presumably. >> you would have to say so, indeed. it's -- police -- politically an incredible event to have taken place in the middle of a
campaign. when opinion polls are showing greater support for the labor party and the timing is not ideal but there is no other decision that could have been taken by the party, by its leader. once again politics has to come to a stand still in this country as the people deal with these terrible events. i know you have been talking about the likelihood of the election taking place in the coming week or so on thursday as scheduled it would be pretty extraordinary for that to be shifted or moved. the one resounding message we have heard from political leaders in this country has been the importance of carrying on, continuing with our lives in every way. and for the idea of these sorts of attacks to stand in the way of british democracy that, i think would be unthinkable to everyone in this country. max? >> okay, phil black, thank you. the mayor of london saying people must go out and vote on
thursday because terrorists don't want democracy. they don't want people to go out and vote which makes it more important that people do vote on thursday but it's the context of that now, it was clouded by what happened in manchester and now clouded by fresher events in london and people on guard. police everywhere around this city. a different atmosphere as people wake up this sunday. i'm max foster in london. back more on the deadly terror attack in london after this short break.
. i'm max foster from london. this is "cnn newsroom." we have breaking news for you in the united states and around the world. if you're joining us, it's 9:00 a.m. in london where police have set up patrols in the streets following another terror attack. at least six people are dead, 48 others have been taken to the hospital. the city's mayor condemned the attack but vowed london would stay strong. >> i'm