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live in the cnn newsroom i'm david brigs in for anna cabrrera. three soldier dead in afghanistan. un officials tell cnn the shooter is believed to be a member of the afghan military. the shooting happened with the afghan military in the district near pakistan. the white house says president trump has been briefed on the situation. vice president mike pence spoke just a few minutes ago. >> on my way here i was informed the u.s. service members were killed and wounded in the attack in afghanistan. the president and i have been briefed. the details of this attack will be forthcoming. when heroes fall americans grieve. our thoughts and prayers are
with the families of these american heroes. >> staying on top of this story we'll bring you any updates as we get them. politics deadline is set, the intelligence committee is giving the house two weeks to turn over any recordings of the president's conversation with james comey. senator diane finestein asking the judiciary committee to investigate the possible obstruction of justice in the days leading up to comey's firing. he claimed the president wanted a pledge of loyalty. the president not backing down, labeling comey a liar, a leaker and saying he would quote, 100% testify under oath about the discussions he had with them. all of this as rebendered special counsel robert mueller is staffing up, building the equivalent of a small u.s. attorney's office with legal
minds that working on anything from water gate to enron. we have this story covered from every angle. beginning with athena jones who's live in energy. the president leaving the world in suspense as to whether or not there are secret recordings. what do we make of that? >> hi dave. it is a huge mystery, seems to be something along the lines of the president's show busy back grown teasing to the next episode. yet, every since then despite repeated questions, no one on the white house staff or the president himself will answer whether there are tapes. i will mention to you one of the issues being raised in the wake of the former fbi director's testimony before the senate intelligence panel on thursday is yet another request this time by the top democrat on the
senate judiciary panel as you mentioned, senator diane finestein whose written a letter to chuck, called on issues realized to obstruction of justice when it comes to the firing of james comey, and also the russia investigation. here's part of her letter, she said it is my strong recommendation that the judiciary committee investigate all issues that raise a question of obstruction of justice. these issues should be developed by our legal staff, presented to us and be subject to full committee hearings. she also goes on later in the letter to say that she is supportive of issuing subpoenas in these cases where we do not sieve corporations. that's an indication that she would support compelling the white house to corporate in this. and i should mention that senator finestein is not just on the judiciary panel she's also on the senate intelligence committee so she's one of the people who were questioning director comey and also was in
that closed session with the director afterwards. >> it should be interesting. i want to ask you about what we mentioned a short time ago, this fascinating edition to rob mueller's special counsel team, michael drooe ban, the one that stands out for people of course, for those that don't collect legal minds baseball cards, why is this so significant? >> this is interesting, it's significant because he's a deputy solicitor general, he's a prolific supreme court advent having argued before the supreme court dozens and dozens of times. he's seen the supreme court's criminal appellant docket. you mentioned legal minds who's held this choice. you'll remember pete who was also the southern district attorney of new york who was filed by president trump. barrera called -- it appears bob
mueller, special counsel is recruiting the smartest counsels who have a long track record. that certainly shows they're taking this probe very very seriously. dave. >> pete will also appear on our sunday show tomorrow. it'll be intriguing to hear what he has to say. thank you. i want to bring in julian zelizer and ellis. all right ellis the president teased everyone in true t.v. fashion as we just mentioned there. tapes, do they exist, will we ever see them and what do you make of the notion, you'll be disappointed by the answer? >> well, that's a dig at the press. you roel don't know and i don't want to pretend. my guess is if there's no tape,
not only because of shining the light on the dispute with the former fbi director but where would the tapes stop if there were tapes? does donald trump want us to hear his considerable conversations in the white house? >> of course the president julian, tweeted said that he's completely vindicated here, no obstruction, goes on and on. you write in on cnn.com not so fast. why should he not feel completely vindicated? >> well it is as he said the cloud looming over this administration. it has taken him out of some of the legislative ball game and it doesn't allow him to move forward some big bills. his polls remain very poor and many republicans are starting to think at 2018, where there's a lot of indications we have a wave election which will leave democrats in control. this is a very serious situation
and i don't think comey's testimony somehow vindicated him, i think it only fuelled this investigation. >> all right. so the president in that really quick press conference, a couple quick questions, essentially accused james comey of lying under oath. let's listen to what he had to say yesterday. >> so he said those things under oath, would you be willing to speak under oath to give your version of this? >> 100%. i didn't say under oath. i hardly know the man i'm not going to say i want you to pledge allegiance. who would do that? who would ask a man to pledge allegiance under oath. think of it i hardly know the man. it doesn't make sense. no i didn't say that or the other. >> so if robert mueller wanted to speak with you about that? >> i'd be glad to tell him exactly what i just told you. >> there is the key. not backing down from testifying under oath to bob mueller, did he back himself in the corn? >> so, we have a little disagreement here. people are supposed to be the
fbi director who served three presidents from two parties or the guy who told us that barack obama was born in kenya, make your choice i don't know. >> this is where that credibility gap comes back to haunt him. he's often said things that are not true, made misstatements and now it's going to be hard for him to take on someone who has many flaws and criticized by both sides but not for his very rasty. >> you're talking about who believe believe, that matters in the scope of court does it matter in the broad scope of investigation. if there's no tapes, 30% believes trump and the rest don't. >> you're asking the right question and whose the jury here. it isn't the criminal law system, he isn't going to be prosecuted and go to prison, where it's going to go is
congress who makes the decision about impeachment or non-impeachment. so what do you do, who pressures those congressman, what's the reaction to it. >> making my job easy, trans sings to what happens with congress because republicans have not shown one glimpse of graeking from president trump. here's what paul ryan said, i want to ask you about this julian. paul ryan said this somewhat in defense of how president trump is handling this entire situation. listen. >> the president's new at this, he's new to government and so he probably wouldn't steeped in the long-running protocols that establish the relationships between doj, fbi and white houses, he's just new to this. >> okay, what do you make of that? do other republicans share that notion that he's just -- >> i think that has been the talking point that he's either a neofight and he's an outsider so he doesn't understand the rules
that washington has put into place. i think most republicans are still, as you say, going along with that. that partisan firewall remains in place. this is a major scandal, they are feeling pressure and now you have a special counsel who can take this in a different direction. >> he's not the president so much, let's go for presidential intern. >> wow. >> isn't that kind of the order? >> it is hard to believe a 70-year-old man didn't know those steps would have been improper. >> julian, what might there be that cause republicans to break ranks? >> obviously, if mueller produces some kind of stinging report where either obstruction is clear, or back to the story that there was a massive intervention in this election. and even without president trump doing it directly, many of miss officials were having conversations or working on this, that would be having
damaging and i do think that could break down republican support. >> one other thing, the poll numbers go from 35 and 37 to 25 and 27, you watch that. >> whaubt that then. let's put aside congress and talk being that base that is 37%. they seem long step with president trump, they defend everything that happens this past week. there seems to be two different entire political narratives, what would cause them to fracture? >> maybe some of facts julian is talking about, or maybe they'll never fracture. maybe donald trump is right, he can shoot somebody on 5th avenue and not lose the base. >> what about legislation here, what about been agenda julian, what about getting anything through congress? >> so far he doesn't have anything. he has zero major legislative accomplishments. there have been some momentum on
healthcare, the house passed the bill, the senate is quietly working on one. although the same thing happened in the senate emerge, the senate republicans -- and he's not in position to move this through. by the end of august congress needs legislation, the republicans need legislation to go back to those districts and say vote for us again. that's going to be critical i think. >> i had high hopes for infrastructure week, i think we're now on day six of infrastructure week. >> how did it go? >> happy infrastructure week. >> it has been the bunt of few jokes. i want to get your thoughts on -- he testified on tuesday and that's about budget issues, cuts to the justice department will russia take center stage? >> well, it might. i think he is one of figures emerged because of the meetings, and comey's saying how he was turned away from a meeting he
should have stade in the room. he is a prime example about why aren't they being forthcoming with meetings that they say are not problematic. >> another senate hearing, we all will be watching on -- maybe not watch parties and sports bars opening early. good to see you both. quick programming, senator finestein, members of the intel committee will be guest on state of the union tomorrow morning that's at 9:00 a.m. coming up, celebrating with cigars, trump's attorney takes a victory laugh before james comey is done testifying. it is washington outsider in over his head? and the president still not saying if there are any triple as of these conversations but the white house has a history of secret recordings. we'll take a look back. do it f.
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welcome back. sources now cnn's president trump's attorney planning to file a complaint against fired fbi director james comey. attorney, marc kasowitz focused on comey's testimony that he leaked a memo about his conversation with the president. cnn's tom forman reports. >> the president never informed or substanced directed or suggested that mr. comey stop investigating anyone. >> as soon as comey's written opening statements emerged, the source tell cnn the president's attorney was buying cigars and celebrating what he calls vindication for his client. >> mr. comey has now finally confirmed publicly what he repeatedly told president trump privately, that is, that the president was not under
investigation as part of my probe into russian interference. >> at $1,500 an hour marc kasowitz is widely acknowledged as a powerhouse attorney, the toughest of tough guys. he's been enlisted by the president to beef up his legal team after a special counsel was chosen to lead the justice department's probe into russian meddling in the u.s. election. and after former -- >> contacts between russian officials and u.s. persons involved in the trump campaign -- >> kasowitz has precious little government experience but his firm has represented some big names. >> i'm bill o'lily. >> actor's robert de niro and mia fierro and for 15 years, donald trump. when jurors wanted to see records from his first divorce
from his ex-wife ivan that, he -- disputes about trump universities and the claims of women who say trump touched them improperly. and now kasowitz is taking on comey. >> mr. comey admitted that he unilaterally and surreptitiously made disclosures to the press. >> kasowitz has issues of his own at least in terms of public since he's represented some interest. but his biggest koresponse to comey shows that won't back him down a bit when it comes to representing the president. >> we'll bring in someone who's familiar with representing high-profile clients. he's worked with everyone from michael jackson. mark great to see you here.
the president called james comey a liar and a leaker but yet his testimony completely vindicated the president. how do you square those two thing? >> i don't think they were looking to square it, that press conference was for public relations purposes and trying to say that he was vindicated yet he's a liar at the same time doesn't make any sense. i get it it's a good sound bite. >> if it was for pr purposes did it succeed in. >> well, obviously with they're audience that they're trying to communicate with, which is their backers, i suppose. the problem is here they have to understand, they're not out of the woods by any means. the appointment of mueller is their worse nightmare, that is the assembling of the team that he's putting together is beyond their worst nightmare. if there is anything there, and by the way, generally what the feds do is they start with the
underlynx and flip the underlings. if they're focused on flint right now and say trump is not a target, that's always what the feds do. they start with somebody and say we're going to go where it leads us. but if flynn gets caution he had to go up the ladder. >> what is kasowitz thinking when donald trump, the president says, under oath, sure bring it on, 100%? is that the worse nightmare, is president trump the nightmare client? >> president trump is being as challenging a client you will get. the fact remains that generally when you're dealing in the world of criminal defense, it's generally a one-off situation with a client. the client, unless you're somebody whose involved in organized crime there's in the a repeat relationship generally with clients in the criminal defense world. here he's got somebody that's represented him before, probably
somebody he defers to or listens to, but at the same time it's a completely different world. i've lived in both the civil and criminal world. the criminal world is totally different, and the rules of civil defense and the rules of tough guy symboldom does not translator well into the criminal world. >> if there's anything that tells us though about this relationship, perhaps it's the cigars lighting up before comey even testified, just about the opening statement. it's clear trump didn't do anything wrong, so that confidence that he's completely vindicated, does that speak to why kasowitz was selected? >> i think there is something to be said. the lawyer/client relationship, a lot of what clients want when they come into the office. and i always tell them if you ask me a question i'm going to
give you the truth, a lot of clients want to hear that, they want that confidence, that sense of i'm invincible and we're going to kick ass and blah blah blah. that's great, as i said in the civil realm. that does not translate in the criminal world. >> what's the biggest mistake that's been made thus far, do you think kasowitz is doing a good job -- >> he's doing what he's suppose to do at this point. i don't think if you're donald trump you go out and hire a criminal defense lawyer at this point because the optics are bad. the problem is maybe you got somebody on speedy dial who's maybe giving you advice or tactical information. but, you have to understand something, once you've got -- and i've dealt with the old independent counsel back in the '90s, once you've got a special counsel out there whose got one mission and that mission is to turn over every rock that should scare you.
>> you mention optics, the first line he misspells president. he added an e to the last name of national intelligence coates. grammatical error, this guy charges $1,500 an hour, what is that indicative of? >> i don't know and i don't judge over counsellors. the problem is i've said here you're going to be under scrutiny and you have to understand that. that is completely different also when you've got prosecutors, prosecutors -- when you're dealing in a civil world, fighting over other people's money, basically that's what it is as a civil lawyer, when you're fighting in the world of criminal prosecution, potential criminal jeopardy you're dealing with people's lives. and prosecutors come, you know the old expression send me guns, lawyers and money there's a
reason for that, because prosecutors come loaded for barrel. you've got to understand they can lay back. they got the power of grand jury, subpoenas and search warrant, and they control the court system. the judiciary is basically controlled by prosecutors. so what works in a civil context does not necessarily work in a criminal context. >> marc kasowitz has his hands full we can agree on that? >> absolutely agree on that. >> good to see you. it's may be unclear if the president has tapes of his conversation with james comey. coming up, a look at the history of white house recordings. you're live in the cnn newsroom. e are teaming up in so many new ways. like new coastal lobster and shrimp, with a lobster tail with butter and herbs, sweet, smoky bbq red shrimp,
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house to turn over any recordings including possible tapes having to do with president trp's meetings with now, fired fbi director james comey. when asked whether such tapes exist the president gave a krip tic answer only promises more information in the near future. there is a history of white house recordings going back decades. brian todd brings us that story. >> white house taping systems have throughout the decades been known to exist. quietly recording the color, and at times the most explosive points of the executive branch. from president john f kennedy captured here discussing the cue been missile crises to president len din b. johnson ordering pants. >> your order on the clothes? >> yes, sir. >> y'all made to real light weight slacks. >> the most damaging of any
white house taping system was during presidency of richard nixon. nixon began creditly taping conversations and telephone calls in multiple locations of the white house in 1971 including the oval office. >> we are going to -- >> time and time again, the president's words were clear. >> [inaudible]. >> the president was acting like he had absolute power. >> [inaudible]. >> even the president's own family was taped. >> i have -- for your sir. >> hello. >> hi daddy. >> it was among nix count's recordings one night in 1972 that proved to be the smoking
gun. >> [inaudible]. >> nixon did everything he could to fend off the investigation. >> people got to know whether or not they're president's a crook, i'm not a crook. >> the taping system became public when the deputy assistant allan butter field confirmed its exist. >> mr. butter field are you aware of any listening devices in the oval office of the president? >> i was aware of listening devices, yes, sir. >> the tapes ultimately led to nixon's resignation to avoid impeachment. >> america needs a full-time president. >> when asked by abc barbara wallers in 1980 why he didn't destroy the tapes, he had this to say. >> are you sorry you didn't burn the tapes? >> yes, because they were private conversations subject to misinterpretation conversations as we have all seen. >> brian todd, cnn washington.
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a try iconi of early americn television has died. >> it was noble of that animal to hurl himself into the path of that final torpedo. he gave us -- >> adam west brought batman from the cometic books to the tef screen in 1966. saving the world from the joker and penguin over and over in the nick of time. he had been battle leukemia he passed away in his home in los angeles. adam west was 88 years old. bill cosby's lawyers will begin prepping their defense monday. on friday the prosecution rested its case with one last punch at
the 79-year-old kmed yan, reading from a decade old deposition in which cosby admits in years past he got sedatives to give to women he wanted to have sex with. his accuser, constand says he gave her pills and assaulted her back in 2004. gene let's start with the previews, what you can expect from this defense that begins on monday? any hints as to where they will begin to defend bill cosby? >> well, here's what the defense has said they're very confidence. and their case presented to the judge if they chose to present one start on monday. they also said they'll have special witnesses. now, this is a he said, she said. so to give bill cosby as much credibility as possible is
extremely important here because the jury really has two choices, do they believe andrea constand who said yeah she went to his home several times but on the third time he drugged and sexually assaulted her and she was in able to consent. or do you believe bill cosby in his statement, the police statement and deposition statement, very very specific of what he and andrea constand did together. and even at one point where andrea said no, no, he stopped and stepped back as the detective said, as a gentleman. >> all right. danny, part of the prosecution was a 2005 civil suit in it, okay. cosby said that he described the contact as consensual but admits to giving her bin drienadryl pi. >> one is that i never had
contact with this person whatsoever, or there was contact but it was consensual. so that deposition transcript concedes one of those major defenses which is it never happened. right. >> right. >> he's saying that that did happen, there was a bill but there was something else. he has to quince that jury that it was in fact benadryl and not what the prosecution's expert testified that it was. but even then that expert's testifying based on symptoms testified to by the complaining witness. you have to believe her in order to believe the expert. >> but even if it's just benadryl that doesn't look good. >> it doesn't look good, but if she requested benadryl that would be one thing if the jury believes that. the other thing, it's true, benadryl as an intoxicate can't is something a jury can go either way on. usually in conjunction with other drugs, not solely as an intoxicate can't or a zres santa
itself. it's an interesting issue itself. those admissions that cosby made in his deposition years and years ago really harmed him in the fact he admits to giving her something. and the jury's going to decide what that is. >> all right, we've seen famous faces come out and support cosby, keisha night pull yam who played his daughter in the show. we have not seen his wife camille. you've been in the courtroom, has that be noticed, might it factor in at all? >> well, i noticed the jury really looking out into the gallery. they are scanning it and looking. i will tell you the testimony last week was extremely graphic, very graphic that busy colby said in his statement to police in his deposition. also in that deposition he said
his he and his wife had been married for 40 years at that point in 2005 and did not want his wife to know about andrea at all. saying that, the defense begins his case on monday, we have heard rumblings. i think we're going to have to wait until monday morning to see if bill cosby comes by himself or to his wife by his side. >> we have also heard rumblings that bill cosby will not take the stand, and we know jurors are not suppose to factor that in. first, what do you think of that decision not to have him testify, and how difficult for a jury to take that out of the equation in a case like this? >> it'sing agonizing, it's an agonizing thing for the defense tornado warning. the burden is always on the prosecution, the court will always admonish the jury that the burden is on the prosecution, and the reality is most defendants do not improve their case by testifying.
it's a simple rule, sometimes there's a good reason to put your client on the stand but for the most part rare is the defense case that improves. when you put your loaned on the stand -- bill cosby has a lot of character issues if he were to get on the stand and testify, it will probably make a weak prosecution case stronger if he flail while under cexamination. >> not likely to take the stand. gene, any outcome on this trial could it vindicate cosby on any public opinion? >> i don't think that's for me to say, i think that's for history to say. i think this jury will determine what they believe is either guilt yord or reasonable doubt to not convict him. i think the story at this point, nobody knows that answer. >> should be a fascinating week. defense begins on monday.
gene and danny thank you both. tune in at 9:00 eastern time for a look back at the case with cosby. coming up, breaking news in washington. attorney generalself sessions will now be testifying before the senate intelligence committee next week. stay with us for more on that. n. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. the breakling news just into cnn form toerge jeff sessions says he will no longer testify this tuesday before the house and -- instead, he will testify before the senate intelligence committee. cnn justice reporter laura jared joins me on the phone form what does this change mean? >> dave, i think what you're seeing here is the attorney general wants to testify before
the committee that is read in on some of these issues and that will have sense of what he can and cannot answer. obviously the appropriations committee was very interested in having him come on tuesday. senator patrick leahy, or senior democrat on the appropriations committee said he wanted to press sessions on his role in trump made efficiency to fire him as the fbi director, so clearly there were, you know, talks of questions sessions on things that had nothing to do with the justice department's budget. instead had to do with russia. so what sessions is saying here in these letters to congress tonight is he will appear before the committee, the intel committee to clear up anything coming out of comey's testimony on thursday. he said in the letter to the appropriations committee, quote -- in light of reports regarding mr. comey's recent testimony before the senate select committee on intelligence, it is important that i have an opportunity to
address these matters in the appropriate forum. the senate intelligence committee is the most appropriate forum for such matters, as it has been conducting an investigation and has access to relevant classified information. now, obviously the tricky part here is sessions has recused himself from the russia investigation. he did that back in march, and said the deputy attorney general rob rosin stein is the appropriate person to address those matters, and so you can imagine a scenario that he'll be asked questions that he doesn't have information on, simply because he's been walled off for instance there was testimony about comey's february 14th meeting with the president in which comey said he went to the
attorney general and says it's not appropriate for me to be having private meetings with the president, what are we going to do about this, according to comey, the attorney general jeff sessions was silent. jeff sessions in a statement that's not what happened at all, and im, you're right and the fbi and justice department has very strict lines of commune caution with the white house. so i think the idea here is that the toerge wants to appear before the senate intelligence committee and clear some of this stuff up. >> at issue is a potential third meeting with sergei kislyas at the mayflower hotel. that's what he will be asked about. laura jared, thank you. appreciate it. on tomorrow's brand-new episode of "parts unknown" anthony bourdain takes us to one of the most friendliest places he as ever been. here's a sneak peek. >> a uniquely fascinating
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you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm boris sanchez in for ana cabrera. this just into cnn, attorney general sessions will testify before the senate intelligence committee on tuesday. he was already scheduled to appear before congress that friday, but in front of the a different house panel. he's expecteding to grilled in his role of the firing of james comey, as well as meetings with russian officials during the presidential campaign. meantime, the countdown for president trump is on. house investigators are giving him two weeks to hand over any memos or audio recordings of his conversations with