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thanks so much for hanging out with me today. the news continues with boris sanchez right now. you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm boris sanchez in for ana cabrera. we thank you so much for joining us. he called him a liar and a leaker. and now maybe his harshest attack yet, president trump is blasting his former fbi director, james comey, as cowardly. he tweeted this out earlier today writing, "i believe that james comey leaks will be far more prev leapt than aalent tha thought possible. totally illegal? very cowardly." that's in reference to comey's memos. congress is still waiting to get copies of those memos and they are also waiting to hear from embattled attorney general jef s sessions. he is expected to testify on tuesday before the senate intelligence committee, likely
to be a closed hearing according to a justice department official. although the committee does get to make the final decision on that. either way, sessions will face tough questions about comey's account that the president cleared every one, including sessions, out of the oval office before telling comey that he "hoped" he would drop the investigation into former national security advisor michael flynn. while the president and his lawyer both say that trump never put it that way, the president's own son may have just contradicted his father's version of what was said. listen to this. >> when i hear the flynn comment, you and i both know my father a long time. when he tells you to do something? guess what? there's no ambiguity in it. there's no, hey, i'm hoping. you and i are friends. hey, i hope this happens but you got to do your job. that's what he told comey. for this guy as a politician to then go back and write a memo -- he felt so threatened but he didn't do anything. >> that's what he said to comey.
i want to bring in cnn white house correspondent athena jones. she's live in new jersey where the president is spending the weekend. this may all come down to how you define the word "hope" because comey said that when he hear that, he thought it was a directive. >> reporter: hi, boris. that word "hope" is certainly getting a lot of attention. it was interesting to hear the president's own son sound like he's confirming something the president is denying. but you have the president's supporters who say, well, even if he said, hope, "i hope you'll let this go," it is not an order. maybe comey interpreted it that way but it is really no big deal, nothing to see here. then you have others, including some republicans, who say it was just entirely inappropriate for this topic to even come up. i do think that this is something that the special counsel is going to be looking deeply at. we'll see what the special counsel -- how he interprets -- and his team interpret that word, "hope." but it is certainly getting a lot of attention.
>> there are growing calls for the president to turn over any tapes or recordings if they do exist so that we can finally know what happened during that james comey meeting in an objective way. but the president just kind of keeps flirting with the idea. he won't confirm, yes or no. >> that's right. this has become like the question of the year, does the president have a recordsing system in the oval office, and more specifically does he have recordings of some sort, tapes or cell phone recording perhaps, or even just records, of those conversations he had with the then-fbi director. this is a question we journalists have been asking. it is also a question that members of congress have been asking. senators who were on "state of the union" this morning, gop senator susan collins and democrat dianne feinstein talked about this. listen. >> he should voluntarily turn them over, not only to the senate intelligence committee, but to the special counsel. so i don't think a subpoena should somebody necessary, and i
don't understand why the president just doesn't clear this matter up once and for all. >> there were no witnesses. if there are tapes, please, and the president's ekwi a's equivo this -- bring those tapes forward. >> reporter: and we just heard today from a lawyer on the president's legal team with mack kasowitz who said the president would address this matter this coming week. certainly we'll all be watching for that. >> we will. athena jones, thank you. i warrant to bring in our panel, alan dershowitz, prominent scholar on constitutional and criminal law. and cnn contributor, norman eisen. what happened kind of factors weigh in to the decision whether the attorney general will testify in an open or closed session?
>> boris, thanks for having me. they'll look first at the public interest in hearing from him publicly. and second, the balance of confidential and classified informati information, and publicly reviewable information in what he's likely to say. i think that those factors cut strongly in favor of the comey solution. start with a public hearing. the public needs to know. they have a right to know. major questions about sessions now with allegations that there is another russia meeting that he didn't disclose in his congressional testimony. then, if you can't get into some of that stuff, as we did with comey, then move into private session. i hope that's what they'll do. >> alan, if you were on that senate intelligence committee set to hear jeff sessions testimony, what would you ask him? >> first, i would agree completely with my former student and great american, norm. i think we should start with the
public hearing, and then if it has to be a closed hearing, that should be a last resort. i don't think that the sessions questions are going to produce much information because it seems like president trump didn't really include sessions in the loop. he did what he did on his own. i think he's making a terrible mistake attacking comey. comey is his best friend. people forget that comey testified in front of congress that comey believes that the president had the authority to direct him. not to "hope," but to direct him to stop the investigation. and that probably explains why he didn't go to prosecutors, because he understood, as i understand and some others understand -- it is very controversial and much disputed -- that the president did nothing unlawful but either hoping, wishing, suggesting, or even directing, that the investigation be stopped. he could have simply pardoned flynn, and that would have ended
the investigation completely. there are a lot of law professors who are taking a different view. but i have issued a challenge to them. would they be taking the same view if it were hillary clinton who had been elected president and republicans were going after her and trying to expand the espionage statute, trying to expand obstruction of justice and trying to get her? i suspect that many of the folks who are now trying to expand and contract constitutional rights would not. i am here as an advocate for civil liberties and the rights of everybody. >> norm, the president and his attorney, marc kasowitz, flatly deny that the president told comey that he hoped the flynn investigation would go away. but as you heard just a few moments ago, donald trump jr. seemed to contradict that account on fox news implying that his father did say that he hoped the flynn investigation would go away. but comey took it the wrong way. is there a grey area here or, in your opinion, does saying that he hopes the flynn investigation
goes away cross a line? >> i do think it crosses a line. i disagree with my professor and friend. he set me on a wonderful career as a white collar defense lawyer. i did my first big case with alan dershowitz but he's wrong here. three key points, boris. one, there is strong enough initial evidence to open an investigation. and mueller is opening an investigation of obstruction of justice here. the danger -- number two -- of trump girthing on camera and saying, no, i didn't do it, mueller's going to accumulate other investigation, other evidence that trump did obstruct justice. his own son corroborating it today on tv. sessions will corroborate it if he says, yes, the president kicked me out of the room. then the third point, the most interesting point, the one that alan raises, is can a president
obstruct. i believe, and a majority of scholars believe, yes, as a matter of law. a president can obstruct justice. congress has the power to cabin that firing authority, and they have done it by passing an obstruction statute. the obstruction statute, alan, is just like the bribery statute. you wouldn't say president trump could take a bribe from vladimir putin to fire jim comey. senator can he fire jim comey with corrupt intent. and there is a strong initial case, an initial case, tlae's do that he's done that. now we need to let the case play out but he can obstruct justice. >> of course he can obstruct justice by bribing, by destroying tapes. >> you don't think by saying he hopes the investigation goes away is obstructing justice? >> it is not even a close question. you can't say that the president's power has been constrained by an overbroad
general statute like obstruction of justice which has been on the books for hundreds of years. they've eliminated now the special prosecutor statute. so the president as the head of the executive branch has complete authority over the justice department. thomas jefferson exercised that authority. abraham lincoln did. jefferson told prosecutors who to prosecute and not prosecute. he told them what witnesses to pull. gave many of them immunity. john kennedy did that. the idea that that's now suddenly constitutional to tell the president that he can't tell his attorney general ahead of the fbi who to prosecute, or who not to, it is not a good system. but it is the system of constitutionality that the framers adopted. so i respectfully disagree with my former a-plus student. i do think that it would be better to move on to whether he did right or wrong. i don't approve of what the president did.
i think what he did, kicking the people out of the room and telling comey that he hoped he would drop the investigation, i don't approve of that! but i think there is a big difference between what i approve of and what is actually criminal, particularly when you are trying to use criminal law against the elected president. you have to know with absolute certainty that he violated the law. that's why bribery is different. that's why paying money, that's why telling somebody to lie is different than obstruction of justi justice with a corrupt motive. those are the vaguest terms imaginable. norm, as a civil libertarian and a defense attorney, i know you fight against those terms all the time and you fight the good cause. why are you suddenly becoming a prosecutor and looking -- >> alan, i hate to cut you off. but i have to ask you about this. we heard today from fired it united states attorney general preet bharara. he talked about calls that he got from president trump saying that comey's testimony felt like
deja vu for him. listen to this. >> so he called me in december, os ste ostensibly to just shoot the breeze. similar to what jim comey testified to the call he was getting when he was getting on the helicopter. i didn't say anything to him at the time. it was a little bit uncomfortable. but he was not the president. he was only president-elect. he called me again two days before the inauguration, again seemingly to check in and shoot the breeze. then he called me a third time after he became president and i refused to return the call and in reporting the phone call to the chief of staff, to the attorney general, i said it appeared to be that he was trying to cultivate some kind of relationship. >> cultivate some kind of relationship. norm, to you, is it appropriate for the president of the united states to try to get close to people that he's supposed to stay at arm's length from? does this bolster comey's testimony? >> it is absolutely inappropriate.
it is not just inappropriate, it is legally actionable. the courts, contra to alan, the courts have now recognized that this kind of a pattern, even if you have a legal authority -- the 7th circuit said that a lawyer who was filing legal briefs, but doing so with a corrupt purpose -- to intimidate -- was violating the law. it is the same with the president exercising his authority here. but i want to agree with something that alan has said. number one, it is early days. we only have the initial evidence. let mueller investigate. number two, mueller will then make a decision. the question has been unresolved since watergate whether this patd te pattern, the attempt to cultivate comey, the loyalty pledge, the demand for flynn to be fired, and when comey wouldn't act, firing comey, whether that pattern is obstruction or not, whether -- it's been unresolved since watergate. it was briefed to the supreme court by the two sides. account president be criminally
charged. another way mueller can go, and maybe my old professor will agree with me on this. even if he determines that there's not an adequate basis here for a criminal charge -- and i think there may very well be -- he can refer to congress and say, hey, i believe there was a high crime or misdemeanor. this whole pattern stinks to high heaven. it is intimidation. it's wrong. congress, you act on it. so he can go the criminal route, the congressional route, or both. alan, i hope you agree. >> we are just about out of time. my producers are probably going to kill me but i want a yes or no, very brief answer from you, alan. were the phone calls to preet bharara inappropriate? >> they were appropriate if he was trying to decide whether to reappoint him as u.s. attorney. it would be inappropriate if he was trying to somehow influence ongoing prosecutions. but they still wouldn't be criminal under either circumstance. >> that was more than yes or no
but we'll take it. gentlemen, thank you for taking time out of your sunday to chat with me. coming up, explosive new allegations against the nsa contractor accused of leaking a highly classified document. did she mishandle other national secrets? and, the lonely president. a look at how trump has become increasingly isolated from the men who preceded him in the oval office. just like that?id of verizon, uh huh. i switched to t-mobile, kept my phone everything on it oh, they even paid it off! wow! yeah, it's nice that every bad decision doesn't have to be permanent! now you can ditch verizon but keep your phone. we'll even pay it off when you switch to t-mobile.
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we have stunning new details on 25-year-old reality winner, the nsa contractor accused of releasing a highly classified document on russian attempts to meddle in the 2016 presidential election. prosecutors believe she may have been trying to expose other secrets because in a jailhouse phone call she referred to having "documents," plural. cnn's brian todd reports. >> reporter: wearing an orange jump suit with the word "inmate" on the back, alleged nsa leaker reality winner appeared outside court in shackles and handcuffs.
inside, winner quietly told a judge she was not guilty of charges she stole classified documents about russian election hacking from a government contractor inside georgia's ft. gordon and gave them to an online news outlet. but prosecutors revealed 134r s explosive new details of what they suggested was an intentional plan by the 25-year-old to leak secrets to the media. prosecutors told the judge winner wrote, "i want to burn the white house down" in a personal notebook. they say she showed a strong desire to travel to pakistan and meet the taliban. prosecutors say last november while still on beingactive duty the air force she once used a work computer to detect "do top secret computers detect when flash drives are inserted." >> i think when you are looking at someone, especially when you are looking to employ someone and you are looking to employ someone for a critical area, important like top-secret
security clearance, you have to look at everything that happened in their history and you have to decide over time whether this person has changed. >> reporter: prosecutors have previously claimed winner tweeted president trump was "an orange fascist" and followed edward snowden, wikileaks and anonymous on twitter. prosecutors also claim she could have additional materials because in a jailhouse phone call, she allegedly referred to "documents," plural. prosecutors say in recorded phone conversations, reality winner told her family of a courtroom strategy she had. if the "i'm going to play the pretty white, cued card." and prosecutors say she told her mother to tell the media she feared for her life. "you've got to play that angle." >> it also shows she's got a manipulative sense. that she feels she can play this role and maybe she is looking at the chelsea manning case and say, mhey, this was a leaker tht was pardoned. maybe i can fit into the same role. >> reporter: winner's lawyer says his client is not a traitor and has seen no evidence from
prosecutors that she leaked anything. her mother and stepfather continue to defend her, including on cnn. >> she served her country. she is a veteran of the united states air force. she served with distinction for six years. she's a patriot. >> reporter: now as winner remains behind bars, some experts are questioning the security at the agency with the word "security" in its name after giant thefts of classified materials by edward snowden and allegedly analyst harold martin. >> that's the biggest problem the nsa has. people who on the surface appear okay who are completely vetted, they find nothing wrong with them. then after they get there, they [d become disgruntled, dissatisfied and think the public ought to know this information. then they turn rogue and do it. >> reporter: just how was reality winner get and keep a top-level security clearance? we couldn't get a comment fon our story but a u.s. government official tells cnn there are procedures in place that allow government employees with top-secret clearances to go from one agency to another and take those clearances with them. brian todd, cnn, washington.
>> brian, thank you. want to talk more about this with cnn global affairs analyst kimberly dozier, senior national security correspondent for the daily beast. kimberly, when we hear about the fact that she has documents, plural, what else could be coming down the pike? what else 3450might she have? >> well, whatever she has will probably soon be in the possession of the investigating authorities because they will be able to access her home. i'm sure that any judge would give them a warrant to search. if she printed out one document, she may have printed out other documents and now the nsa will be examining everything that she had access to, just like they had to with edward snowden. what we're going to get a chance to see is what likely would have happened to edward snowden had he been caught and extradited back to the united states in terms of how she's going to be pursued and prosecuted. the thing with her case that
just sort of is mind-blowing is how naive she has been at so many different segments of this, that she had a jailhouse phone call that she didn't think would be listened to? and that she printed out documents and she didn't think people would be watching for that. >> so this is the first criminal leak case under president trump. we saw obama administration go after leakers pretty harshly. chelsea manning comes to mind. do you foresee any major differences in the way that the trump administration and the obama administration handles these leakers? >> well, look. i am one of the journalists when i was at the associated press who was investigated by the obama justice department in a leak investigation. they seized 40 days of our phone records, including several of my phone numbers, phones that i was carrying, and interviewed just about anyone i spoke to during that 40-day period. if they had anything to do with the national security world. all trying to pursue the source
of the leak. i can't imagine that the trump administration would be any more lenient than the obama administration was. so i think the message is, if someone is giving you information that they feel needs to get out there, they should be careful. most of the people that i talk to are careful. they research what might expose them. so they're careful in how they reach out and i am careful to protect my sources as well. >> so i'm interested in getting your point of view on this. do you consider reality winner a whistle-blower who did this for public good to bring attention to the russian hack attempt? or does the leak hamper the intelligence community's ability to go after russia and to conduct this investigation thoroughly? >> well, what's in that document does possibly reveal sources and methods of the intelligence community, what it was watching in terms of the russian hacking. so from the intelligence
officer's point of view, she is a traitor. from the point of view of people who want to know more about how russia hacked and the point of reporters who think that way too much gets classified, and this particular administration's probably not in the business of declassifying a lot of it to share details with us. well, she did a service. so this is going to play out in court though, and she is probably going to get a very long jail sentence. i don't see with what shoee's already apparently told the prosecutor, and now with this jailhouse phone call, her building a very strong case of innocence. but i am not a lawyer. >> very quickly let's talk about what was in that document. it detailed the cyber attack by russia's military intelligence unit, gru, on a software -- voting software company and 122 local elections officials just days before the election. there is no evidence they were actually able to manipulate any votes but what does this reveal
about their intentions? >> well, we already knew that there was a hacking campaign ordered from the very top, ordered from the kremlin, from putin's office. it shows how sophisticated these attacks are and also that they will try to get in to the voting booth. so it is a cautionary tale for the next round of u.s. elections. >> we heard james comey say during his testimony that we're not doing enough to respond to the russia hacking attempt. kimberly dozier, thank you so much for the time. >> thank you. coming up, they don't talk and they don't see each other. a look at the strained relationship between president trump and former president obama and how it represents a rare break in a very exclusive club. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before.
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president trump watching as barack obama boarded a helicopter for his post-white house life. apparently the two men have not spoken or seen each other since. aides say they have no working relationship despite being cordial, even friendly during the transition. >> my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president-elect is successful. i just went to the oval office and found this beautiful letter from president obama. it was really very nice of him to do that. >> well, he was very nice to me but after that we've had some difficulties. he was very nice to me with words and when i was with him. but after that, there has been no relationship. >> you might expect that they would have difficulties, but to be clear, it is not just rare. it is unprecedented that in modern times a president would
forgo even the faintest of ties or pleasantries with his predecessors. joining me, a cnn political analyst, professor and historian at princeton, university. julian, you believe the president is not just isolated from obama but also his predecessors in the republican party. you argue that that's unlikely to change. why? >> yeah. i think what makes this distinct is not simply that he's isolated from president obama, it's also the intensity of the dislike for him and separation. he's also not close to president george w. bush. so you see this president who is isolated from the people who have the most experience with the job that he is handling. i do think although this plays well to the base, and politically works, it removes some much needed expertise and guidance that other presidents have counted on. >> they had that very cordial meeting and they had a friendly moment right outside the
helicopter after trump was elected, right before the inauguration. what was it that changed? >> well, i think there was a little bit of shock and awe for both of them. i think president trump was -- or elect trump was adjusting to the reality that he won and he was going to take over this job. and i think president obama thought, like many people, hillary clinton would be the successor and felt the need to guide president-elect trump through the transition. but i think, look. the animosity that president trump has for obama has been around since the birther movement. so it is not a surprise that he didn't transform himself and that this anger would return pretty quickly. >> now you said something really fascinating. you wrote, "even though president trump may not like it, having obama out there speaking with leaders, even if it is critical of trump, is probably helpful." he might be serving a diplomatic role that the administration itself is not fulfilling." this is really intriguing. what do you mean?
>> well, we've seen how president trump has aggravated tensions with some of our staunchest allies in europe. and at the same time, we know that the state department really isn't functioning at full capacity. a lot of key jobs aren't even staffed at this point. i think what former president obama is doing as he travels around is a little bit of repair work for some of the tensions that are created by president trump. so he benefits from that. these alliances are important, and they're important to president trump's success. >> it's important to point out that it is vital for presidents to maintain a good relationship with their predecessors. we've seen through so many points president obama reaching out to george w. bush. and before him, bill clinton. there was one letter from president george h.w. bush to bill clinton that's thought of as the ultimate in honorably
passing the torch to someone else. why is it so important for presidents to maintain a healthy working relationship? >> because very few people know what this job is about. it is incredibly difficult to go through the challenges that a president goes through and face the multiple policy issues and crises that emerge. so historically presidents turn every now and then to their predecessors to figure out what to do. you can hear tapes of president kennedy talking to eisenhower or president johnson talking to harry truman. as you said, the bushes and the skw clintons, they all had these conversations because nobody else really knows what this job is like. so that's really an important source of expertise, even if there is great tensions between the two people. that's what president trump is losing by not talking at all to president trump, and, frankly, many of his advisors. >> certainly, great hope after that meeting with president obama and president trump. seems that that all kind of went
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as washington debates the fallout from james comey's testimony before congress, we wanted to take the pulse of voters elsewhere in the country. what did they think of the hearings, and comey's accusation that the president is a liar. cnn's gary tuchman went to ohio, a state that trump won, to find out. >> reporter: first thing i want to ask you, it is a crime when you testify before congress to lie. that is perjury. you can go to prison for it. raise your hand if you believe james comey lied at all.
four of you believe he lied. >> yep. >> raise your hand. he says that donald trump "told lies," plain and simple. raise your hand if you think donald trump has lied at all about this situation. none of you believe that. for those of you who did not raise your hands, if neither person lied, how could that be possible? who didn't raise their hand? why do you think that nobody lied? how could that happen? >> well, first of all, things can be distorted and appear like lies. and i think that maybe the media might have distorted some things -- >> the media. >> -- now we're not get being both sides. >> you raised your larnhand. do you think mr. comey should go to jail? >> my impression of comey at the beginning of this was he was kind of an eliot ness kind of guy, the way he went after martha stewart. especially with his testimony today, he's more like an ian fleming where he wants to be the next novelist. a lot of things he came up with seem like he's more inclined to
fix it. >> one of the things he testified about, he said he was in a room with president trump. president trump told his attorney general and son-in-law to get out and he said president trump told him he hoped he would let it go regarding the flynn investigation. my question for you, a lot of people are arguing, "hope," that means he didn't order him. but if your superior, your boss, or when you're little your parents say, i hope you do something, isn't that imperative that you do it or is that not necessarily an imperative? >> he's been manipulated by the clintons, too, when lynch told him to overlook the meeting with -- >> let me just -- hillary clinton right now is not president. i'm talking about in situation. when he has told -- >> i can't trust what he says. >> you don't think comey's telling the truth. >> right. >> what do you think? >> i think mr. comey should have said something at that time. >> should have said something to who? to mr. trump? >> mr. trump. >> what should he have said to mr. trump? >> i cannot do that. i have to go on with the investigations, et cetera.
>> yeah. >> and we have to do it. he did not do it. >> i was never asked why i didn't think he was being truthful but he didn't adequately explain why he couldn't just tell trump that this was inappropriate or tell the chief of staff or doj tell trump. he continued on with that. he couldn't adequately explain that. i feel the whole thing was wrapped around us. >> mr. comey says he believes he was fired because of the russian investigation. interestingly, donald trump has said i fired him because of russia. is there a problem with that? >> no. >> no, i don't have a problem. >> why is that not a problem? >> i don't have a problem with that. first of all, mr. trump represents the united states of america. president trump is our president and he sets a standard for everything. >> let me just say, he had commented many times that according to the testimony that he liked the job mr. comey was doing. all of a sudden he's firing him because of -- >> well, i think he tried to be uplifting and encouraging to your, quote, unquote, employees. but also he seventh mr. comey
several opportunities to be forthright and honest with him, forthcoming with some answers and mr. comey kind of dropped the ball on that. >> let me ask you this before we go. i think i know the answer. but show of hands. how many of you feel better about donald trump, your president, after this hearing? how many of you feel worse about donald trump? i guess you all raised your hands the first time. you think that was a success for donald trump but not for mr. comey? >> oh, absolutely. >> that was gary tuchman in ohio. joining me now, cnn politics reporter, eugene scott. eugene, we thank you for joining us on this sunday. you heard those trump voters in ohio. they think the president came out of comey's testimony with a win. but is there anything that indicates the support, even more his most faithful supporters, might be slipping because of all the controversy surrounding the white house right now? >> not really, boris. this is a bit consistent with what we saw even back in november. if you remember, we had exit polls that said about 64% of americans viewed donald trump as
dishonest. about 1 in 5 of that 64% still voted for him. so the fact that some people don't trust him, i don't think has necessarily translated then, or now, into not supporting him. >> the president was actually speaking to a group of evangelical supporters this week. he kind of made it sound like he was at war. listen to this. >> we're under siege. you understand that. but we will come out bigger and better and stronger than ever. you watch. the entrenched interests and failed bitter voices in washington will do everything in their power to try and stop us from this righteous cause. >> "we are under siege." in kind of a strange way, trump seems to relish this fight against the media and the democrats and anyone that criticizes him because it galvanizes his supporters, doesn't it?
>> it certainly does. i mean this is the approach he took during the campaign that led him to the white house. if you listen to the rest of that speech, what's a bit problematic to some critics is some of the harsh language he used to describe democrats. if you remember on inauguration day, president trump said he wanted to unite the country and he wanted to be the president for all americans. but when you say things like "we're under siege" in front of people who do not think the way we do and do not support the policies that i'm proposing, it is very difficult to get everyone on the same page. i don't know if he's going to be able to get people to have more respect for him who haven't already voted for him by mid-terms. that's something he really has to focus on. >> now i want to read you a tweet that president trump put out earlier today. he writes, quote, the fake news, msn, mainstream media, doesn't report the great economic news since election day. the dow up 16%. nasdaq up 19.5%. drilling and energy sector way
up. regulations way down. 600,000 new jobs added. unemployment employment down to 4.3%. business and economic enthusiasm way up, record levels. he's complaining that the media isn't paying enough attention to recent economic success. but isn't he at least partly to blame for taking headlines away from his agenda or his successes, flirting with the idea that there may be recordings of his interactions with james comey and going out and just attacking people on twitter? >> he certainly is. he's controlling the narrative and there are things that if he wanted the american people to know, he could put out there. the fact of the matter is that tweet actually isn't accurate. every single jobs report that has come out, all three of them since donald trump entered the white house, cnn money has reported on. the truth is we are at significant low levels of unemployment. but i think it is important for americans to realize that prime age voters, those voters between 25 and 54 are still experiencing high levels of unemployment. there are about 5.3 million
people who should be working who are not working. and if the president feels that 1,100 vacancies in his administration, if he filled them, he could probably make significant progress with that. >> that is ultimately what got him elected, the promise of jobs. eugene scott, we thank you again for joining us this sunday. >> thank you. coming up, jeanne moos on president trump's most frequently made request. >> believe me. >> believe me. >> believe me. >> believe me. >> believe me. man #2: we're not coming out! man #1: [ sighs ] flo: [ amplified ] i got this. guys, i know being a first-time homeowner is scary, but you don't have to do this. man #2: what if a tree falls on our garage? woman: what if a tornado rips off our roof? flo: you're covered. and you've bundled your home and auto insurance, so you're saving a ton. come on. you don't want to start your new life in a dirty old truck. man #3: hey. man #1: whoa, whoa. flo: sorry. woman: oh. flo: you're safe. you're safe now. woman: i think i'm gonna pass out. can you stop using the bullhorn? flo: i don't make the rules. can you stop using the bullhorn?
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would drop out of the paris climate accord. >> believe me, this is not what we need. >> what is five in one speech? >> because believe me, there's no collusion. >> when he has been a believer at the rate of two in under ten seconds. >> my total priority, believe me, is the united states of america. >> what is trump's usage like compared to other people? >> it's off the charts. >> tyler, has made charts of trump's usage. >> believe me. believe me. believe me. believe me. believe me. i know. >> he tally him at 580 occurrences per million words versus six for hillary clinton. >> it's a time filler to collect your thoughts. >> you are stressing something but it allows you to play for time. >> john stewart has another theory. >> nobody says believe me, unless they are lying. >> the addiction to saying,
believe me is ironic for someone who is often described as -- >> thousands and thousands and thousands of people were cheering. >> -- as having his pants on fire. >> the lie of the year goes to the collective misstatements of donald trump. >> i had a lot of people tell me, that they had parents say, don't believe anyone that says believe me. >> and you personally, you don't say, here comes a lie when he says believe me? >> no. i don't. >> we are going to knock the hell out of isis. blooe belief me ft. >> he is at his most trumpian when he uses it. >> new york. okay. riday. we gotta go. [ tires screech ] any airline. any hotel. any time.
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you are live in the cnn newsroom. we thank you so much for joining us. attorney general jeff sessions is willing to put himself on the hot seat in two days and face tough questions about his role in the firing of the former fbi director, james comey. the big question, will all americans be able to watch and listen to his testimony? sessions is planning to testify in front of the senate intelligence committee on tuesday and cnn learned it will likely be a closed session although the committee makes the final decision. the aclu put on out a statement saying there's no reason the hearing room doors should be shut, cameras turned off and all american citizens left in the dark when the sessions testifies. trump has a fresh twitter slam against comey i believe the comey leaks will be more prevalent than anyone thought possible. totally