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it is top of the hour. i'm boris sanchez. thank you so much for joining us. this just in. members of the senate intelligence committee are debating whether or not they'll let jeff sessions testify on tuesday. a source telling us that the committee is debating session's offer and some members are worried that sessions may be trying to avoid testifying publicly. president trump is hurling a fresh insult at james comey. he said i believe james comey's leaks will be far more prevalent than anyone ever thought possible. totally illegal, very cowardly. he admitted to giving a friend a memo detailing the conversations with the president and then his friend passed it along to "the new york times". all of this comes amid calls for president trump to release any
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recordings if they do exist of his white house conversations with james comey. democratic senator dianne feinstein just tweeted this out. "release the tapes, mr. president. what are you afraid of?" . the president's on son may have contradicted his father's version wlaf was said about the michael flynn investigation during one of those trump-comey conversations in the oval office. watch. >> whether i hear the flynn comment, you and i both know my father along time. when he tells you to do something, guess what? there is no ambiguity in it. there is no, hey, i'm hoping. you and i are friends. hey, i hope this happens but you got to do your job. that's what he told comey. and for this guy as a politician to then go back and write a mem yoi, oh, i felt threatened, he felt so threatened but he didn't do anything. >> well, let's go straight to cnn white house correspondent athena jones in new jersey where the president is spending the weekend. concerning jeff sessions' offer to testify, doesn't senate intelligence committee ultimately get to decide whether
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or not it's a closed or open hearing? >> you had exactly right, boris. it's a committee that decides whether he'll testify at all, whether sessions will get to testify at all on tuesday. and whether it will be open or closed. i can mention -- i should mention to you that my colleague says that this request by sessions took the committee by surprise. that's why we haven't gotten a lot of answers, definitive answers yet on what they're planning. as you mentioned, there is concern among senators that attorney general is trying to avoid testifying in public. one of the senators with that concern is the vice chairman, the top democrat on the senate select intelligence committee, senator mark warner of virginia. another democrat on the committee, oregon's ron widen sent a letter to the chairman and vice chairman asking that any hearings be open which means open to the public. but we'll have to see what happens there.
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certainly senate investigators have a lot of questions for the attorney general. among them, they will talk to him about his involvement in the firing of james comey. and they may also ask him questions about whether or not there was any sort of third undisclosed meeting with russia's ambassador sergey kislyak. the department of justice denied. that i can bet that investigators are going to want to talk to sessions about it. >> right. on the heels of this comey testimony, another former justice department employee that was fired by trump is going public about his interactions with the president. what is he saying? >> right. you're talking about preet bharara, the attorney fired by president trump a couple of months ago. on abc's "this week", he talks about private conversations he had with then candidate trump that made him uncomfortable. watch. >> so he called me in december
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to shoot the breeze and ask me how i was doing and wanted to make sure i was okay. similar to what jim comey testified to with respect to a call he got when he got on the helicopter. i didn't say anything to him. it was uncomfortable. wasn't the president. he was only the president-elect. he called me again two days before the inauguration. again, seemingly to check in and shoot the breeze. and then he called me a third time when he became -- after he became president and i refused to return the call. and then reporting the phone call to the chief of staff to the attorney general, i said it appeared to be that he was trying to cultivate some kind of relationship. >> and what bharara says there echo what's jim comey has had to say although comey describes dinner he had with the president as -- he thought it was an attempt to establish some sort of patronage relationship. bharara was asked if he felt the same way about his conversations with then candidate trump. and he stopped short of saying
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he thought there would be sort of a patronage relationship. did he believe the candidate -- president-elect was trying to establish some sort of relationship that made bharara uncomfortable. so it's interesting to see there is a suggestion of a pattern here of the president doing things that are inappropriate when it comes to justice department officials. boris? >> and according to him, he was fired after refusing that third phone call and reporting it the next day. athena jones, thank you. let's discuss with our panel. joining me now, legal analyst michael zeldin. he served as a special assist too ant to robert mueller. also joining us, james woolsey. he's the former u.s. ambassador to the conventional forces in europe treaty and former senior adviser to the trump campaign. ambassador, let's start with you. thank you so much for joining us today f jeff sessions has nothing to hide, wouldn't he prefer a public testimony where everyone can see that he's open and direct?
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>> quite fos posblpossibly. this all reminds me about a mark twain line about the fellow that rode off on his horse in all directions at once. the first thing they ought to figure out is what criteria they're using and what they're trying to do. i think that, for example, it would have made some sense in the oval office when they were going back and forth about who said what to whom for mr. comey to have suggested that the president's counsel, white house counsel join them and they have a three-person discussion so people can understand exactly what criteria are applied where. for example, a requirement, i'm told by andy mccarthy, a very fine prosecutor, for any notion of being able to block discussion or to turn away from
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having a free and open exchange is -- requires corruption. obstruction of justice according to andy, under some statutes requires corruption. and there doesn't appear to be any corruption that we can see or talked about or have been briefed on. that could affect the discussion of dealing with any kind of limitation on discussion very substantially. and to have comey decide to go off and present the material that he wrote up of a discussion with the president to an old friend and to tell him to go ahead and give it to the press, that doesn't seem to me to be the way you deal with the president of the united states. >> so you feel it that his response, even when the president asked jeff sessions to
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leave the room, the vice president and his son-in-law to left room should have been stronger? he should have intervened and saiding? >> i think it would have been very reasonable to have -- if he had private discussion first if they want. but at some point to get to a couple of fine lawyers there together with the president, have a discussion of how this all works. with respect to a block in proceeding in a just and sound manner. i think that one of the things we really need is a pulling together of people in the world of both law enforcement and intelligence. and a discussion of what is needed in order to support the country. the law enforcement folks, i think, have to do their job in a much more disciplined and structured and way than we've seen so far that the
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intelligence people need to call it straight and not be able to be pushed off their position just by somebody in the political side saying, you know, i really wish you would word it this way. we need go back to square one. neither the intelligence people nor the law enforcement people i think are doing a good job here. >> michael, to you now. getting back to jeff sessions, does it ultimately matter whether or not he testified in a public or private setting? what ultimately is the difference? >> one, the public gets to hear and observe the attorney general and the other one they don't. i have always favored when there is no national security or military override to have people testify in public. so that public can see what is going on here.
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i don't know why absent intelligence that has to be froekted, why this would ever be considered to be an appropriate closed door session. i think sunshine on these things is much more preferable to our democracy than closed door sessions as i said except when needed for military or national security purposes. >> and staying with you, michael, do you agree with the ambassador that comey crossed the line or inappropriate and pass ago long that memo to a friend specifically to bring about this special counsel? >> well, let's -- we have to split that into two parts. one is because we heard used by the president and his surrogates the term leak. that director comey leaked this to the media. it is not technically speaking a leak. it is not a classified document. it is not an official document of the fbi in my stictions, not a 302 interview form that was done in the course of a formal investigation. it is his personal recollection,
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almost a dear diary entry. i think he has the prerogative to disseminate this as he will. if you ask them the follow up question of did he do it in the pe best way possible? probably not. it would have been better to have done it himself directly. i think he was so shell shocked by what happened that this seemed to him at the time the most prudent way to accomplish it. but to call it a leak i think is improper classification of what sichlt a it is and the director knows way more than what i is a classified document and what is subject to leaking. i don't think this fits those definitions in any way, shape or form. >> ambassador, you have a response? >> quite correct. i think technically this is not a leak. it wasn't classified. but it was private right up of the discussion with the president on a very sensitive
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and important matter. the system is not going to work if everybody decides whenever i have a discussion with the president i'm going to make sure i go right to the times or the post or journal or whatever. that's what this says. this says that it's fine to go public with most private discussions with the president of the united states. and that just seems to me to be a recipe for disaster. >> so i guess i disagree a little bit with that as a legal proposition. i have no political interest in outcomes here. mine just a legal analysis. and if the president believes that nature of the conversation that he had with director comey was one that involved policy determinations that which are privileged under the united states versus nixon, then he should have asserted privilege and not allowed comey to testify at all. but he didn't do that.
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and so to say now after the fact that the distribution of those memos somehow implicates or even violates the executive pref ledge that the president is entitled to assert doesn't seem to me aveiling. >> i don't think they violate executive privilege. i think it's a very bad idea to do what mr. comey did. >> and some people are arguing the fact that president tweeted about it further complicateses the matter. i want to move on to the tweets. >> tweets confuse everything. >> they certainly do. especially in this administration. >> and they also may constitute a waiver, if you will, if the director's proposition is probably ideally it's not good for either party to discuss private conversations in public, then the shoe fits on each foot and the president shouldn't be doing it as well and then complaining about others who try to do the same. so no one has clean hands here. >> sure. ambassador, i really want to get your perspective on this.
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we heard from some republicans including paul ryan who say that president in his approach to jam comey, they're not outright denying james comey's account. but they're saying that president in his approach in saying that he hoped this plin thing would go away just didn't know any better he didn't understand the protocols when it comes to the president's relationship with the fbi director. what do you make of that? >> if andy mccarthy is right, i have never known for him to be wrong on a matter like this comey did not get involved in the president didn't get involved in obstruction of justice because there wasn't any corruption involved. that's a statutory matter. >> do you think the president should have known better and not staying alone with the fbi director? >> i practiced law for 22 years. i haven't been practicing for the last few years. dinlt know what t bui i didn't know what the criteria were for being able or not being able to use something like this
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in limiting the use for the purpose that's we've be purposes that we've been talking about. i it this president and comey and the white house counsel could have sat down and talked about this a little bit before everybody got on his horse and started riding off in every direction. and helped the president understand what the criteria were. i think what he said from what i've heard now about corruption being required under the statute, doesn't sound to me as if there was anything done that was wrong. but by comey -- i mean, about it president. but let's see. let's examine it. >> michael, very quickly. we're running out of time. your response to that? >> yeah. there are a couple things here. first, the communications between the white house and the director of the fbi are clearly
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set forth in regulation. it is not to be done by the white house unless there is some emerging need for it. it's black and white law f president isn't aware of that, that failure son his white house counsel or his department of justice. not on the fbi director. in fact, the fbi director when the president tried to have these one-on-one communications with him told the attorney general to please make him stop because it's not protocol. with respect to the question of whether or not this is a violation of statutory obstruction of justice, that's still remains to be seen. there is a big debate about whether if the president does something which he has the legal right to do absent another criminal act, whether khe can b indicted for obstruction of justice. we'll see how that plays out over the course of time. but to put anything on comey as a matter of law because he
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neglected to tell the president of the united states what the protocol is for the president of the united states to communicate with the fbi director i don't think is fair to comey. i think that's on the president and his advisors. >> and important to point out that comey continued taking private calls from the president after -- rather jeff session that's he shouldn't leave him alone in the room with him. we thank you very much for joining us on this sunday. thank you. >> thank you. some discussion this weekend on both sides of the ponld over whether president trump will visit the united kingdom any time soon. a report of the british media today suggests the president told prime minister teresa may he is not comfortable travel together uk at least until he's more popular there. prime minister may invited trump for a state visit back in february. a date has yet to be set. reaction from the white house today, it's not true. a senior trump administration officials tells cnn that subject hasn't even come up in recent phone calls between the white house and downing street. the president is increasingly unpopular in britain, especially
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the leader of a russian opposition movement wants protests to erupt all over russia tomorrow on the country's national holiday. this is alexei nuvani. about 200 towns and cities across russia tomorrow. he is a and they putin activist who thanks to the internet has gotten very firmly under the skin of the kremlin. cnn's clair sebastian has more. the show is about to start and he is checking final
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details. and under the watchful eye of her boss. >> the idea was his, of course. he wanted a special channel with him. >> the channel has grown from nothing to more than 300,000 subscribers in less than three months. that oon topst one million that subscribed to his original channel. >> it is important for your country? >> i feel somehow that people needed. they are sick and tired of these years of without any possibilities to be heard. >> his movement came of age on march 26th with protests in almost 100 cities across russia. many who turned out responding to this video. a flick in detail alleging corruption by prime minister
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medvedev which has more than 20 million views. medvedev denied the allegations. on that day, his team was out the door screaming protests. then the police arrived and that was live streamed two. they spent seven days in detention accused of refusing to heed a supposed bomb threat in the office. >> you are worried about the risk of what you do here? >> it is not in fear. we are trying to build a beautiful russia of the future. >> the kremlin goes out of its way to ignore naval whoichlt is banned from running in the next presidential election, a close alley of putin had this response to the claim that he's part of medvedev's corrupt circle. i spit on you, he tells novali, he since sued novali for deaf
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we have more now on the story we told you about at the top of the hour. senators on the intelligence committee are now debating whether to take embattled attorney general jeff sessions offer to testify before the committee tuesday. some committee members are concerned that sessions may be trying to avoid testifying publicly since he canceled appearances at the senate and house appropriations committees this week. a source tells cnn that sessions offered to testify caught intelligence committee members by surprise. joining us now cnn senior media correspondent host of reliable sources and cnn political analyst and "washington post" columnist josh rogan. starting with you, what do you make of some of this concern by senators on the intelligence committee that sessions might be trying to avoid testifying in public? >> sure. in his letter to the senators, jeff sessions said he was pulling out of his budget testimony because of what james
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comey said last thursday. and james comey indicated there was other nfction that came up during t-- other information tht came up. so it is clear that jeff sessions is taking that testimony very seriously. now the senate intelligence committee has no reason not to hear from jeff sessions. they may as well. but there is a lot of concern that jeff sessions may be using this to avoid talking publicly and senators don't want to be seen as being played off one another. they don't want jeff sessions to be able to shop around his testimony and shop around for a forum. so they're caught between a rock and hard place. they want the testimony off the record. but they also want the testimony on the record. and frankly, as, you know, of observer and journalist in america, i'd like to see them do both as well. >> brian, to you now. what does it do to affect public perception? the possibility that this might be a closed door hearing? >> right. it real estate enforces the notion that trump and his aides, whether it's a cabinet member or press secretary that they're keeping a lot of secrets.
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i talked about this on my program earlier today. that president trump has a lot of secrets right now wlchlt it's about big things like whether he believes in climate change, whether he has tapes, whether it is small things like whether he went golfing this weekend. he's keeping a lot to himself. the same is true for jeff sessions. if sessions wants to look open and available and free and without secrets, then he'll speak openly in public on tuesday to the extent that he can legally. it will be interesting to see how television event this could be. almost 20 million people tuned in for the comey hearings and live on all the major networks. i don't know if we'll see that same tonch on tuesday. certainly cnn and the other cablers will have it live. but sessions will be trying to, i suspect, withhold information. we've already heard ddianne fei saying she wants him if front of the judiciary committee as well. a lot of senators all want their turns asking the questions and to josh's point, the american sprem a lot of questions as well. they would like to hart senators asked. >> we likely won't seat drinking games we saw during the james
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comey testimony last week. >> probably not. >> back to you. i actually spoke to a shors close to the campaign and someone who is in regular communication with donald trump who said we should expect a shake-up within the administration once that overseas trip is over. we really haven't seen that big of a shake-up. but do you get the sense that there are people in the white house right now that are hanging on by a thread? >> well, i think we have seen a shake-up in term of the way they operate. maybe not in terms of the personnel besides the communication director, the first guy in, last guy out. but as brian talks about a lot, the briefings have become more scarce. the substance of the briefing is more scarce. more off camera. they're shorter. they're doing business in a different way post trip to the middle east. but they don't want to be seen as having a shake-up. if nothing else, it's good for them to avoid storty of the shake-up. so you see people up and down inside internally and hard to really tell what's what. but we've seen shawn spice taker
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a much less public role. that was evident on the sunday shows. internally, there are power dynamics going on. but they're not going to do this thing where they drum a lot of -- march a the love people out the front door because that would give the media, you know, what it wants and prove us all right. that's the last thing they want to do. >> i thought it was eye opening. we did not see trump on the circuit shows today. we did see over the weekend a couple days ago donald trump junior and tomorrow he vanivank trump. it is the family members speaking on behalf of their father, the president right now. we're not seeing trump aides out. there but we are seeing family members. >> very quickly, we may not have the clip ready to fire. but what you heard from trump junior yesterday is a contradiction of what his father said on friday in the rose garden when he said he didn't say he hoped that flynn investigation would go away. yesterday donald trump p jr. made it sound like it was comey's interpretation that was
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wrong. >> indeed. >> what do you make of all the miscommunication there? >> neighbor is why children can be your best surrogates and also potentially your worst surrogates. donald trump jr. may have made storty worse in the way he was answering the questions. >> all right. thank you so much, brian and josh. we appreciate you gentlemen for coming on on this sunday. president trump surprised wedding guest at his trump national golf club in new jersey saturday. as cnn national politics reporter tells us, this isn't first time the president crashed a wedding. m.j.? >> reporter: hi, boris. a couple got that got married over the weekend at the trump national golf course in new jersey got quite the unexpected guest, president donald trump. some guests at the wedding posted some photos on social media. you can see here president trump mingling with some of the guests as well as the bride and groom. we're also told that he stopped by to sign some -- make america great again hats for the guests. cnn also got ahold of video of
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the moment he walked into the wedding reception. take a look. >> looking good, donald. >> yeah! >> keep it up. >> hey, where is your red hat? >> yeah. >> president, looking, good baby! >> now this is not first time that trump has dropped in unexpectedly on a wedding. did he this back in february at mara largo, the private club down in florida. at the time it got a lot of attention. it was supposed to be a working weekend. he was meeting with the prime minister of japan. now he spent all of this weekend in new jersey and he did this because he says that rather than coming thoem trump tower in manhattan, this actually saves folks a lot of time. if you look last month to the twitter food when he decided to spend a weekend in new jersey, he tweeted this. he said the reason i'm staying in new jersey, a beautiful
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president trump's promise to bring back manufacturing jobs helped him win the crucial state of wisconsin. but now less than six months after trump took office, general electric is preparing to close the 100-year-old plant in wisconsin. sending more than 300 jobs to can d.a. president trump and paul ryan whose district is nearby failed them. general electric is blaming congress and the dispute over the ex-port, import ban. we sat down with very angry workers in wisconsin. >> i came to work on a monday. never in my wildest dreams thinking that upper echelon people, person would come and tell us that you're fired and we're moving to canada. >> jeff nebauer built engines at the same wisconsin plant for 24 years n 2014, president obama
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praised this ge factory as a symbol of american manufacturing. >> what you're doing at this plant and across this region can be a model for the country. >> reporter: a model that doesn't last. nearly two years later, nebauer and 300 other workers were told their jobs were moving to canada. >> they cut out one piece of your heart at a time. they moved jobs out. they moved equipment out. >> this factory drove the community's economy for more than 100 years. it sits just out side of paul ryan's congressional district. but some workers here say he fail them. >> doesn't he realize that we voted for him? he should have been there and saw my wife crying. he should have been there. >> reporter: ge blames the move to canada on the export-import bank. it's essentially a government credit agency used to finance u.s. exports. ge says they rely on that financing to help sell the products abroad.
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speaker ryan slammed the export-import bank as corporate welfare and congress let the charter expire in june 2015. canada saw an opportunity, offering ge financing fit would build a factory there. ge took the deal. and by the time congress reauthorized the bank five months later, it was too late. a spokesperson for paul ryan says the speaker finds ge's decision deeply disappointing and says the company's export-import bank reasoning doesn't match up. but ge says it's the f. the bank this h. been reauthorized in the five months, these work woerz sti -- work woerz still have their jobs but ge's employees don't buy it. >> i don't know if you want to call it corporate greed. >> a company the size of ge shouldn't need that kind of financial help. >> reporter: president trump's promise to bring manufacturing jobs back to the u.s. helped him win wisconsin. >> this was actually the first time i ever voted. he was saying the things that
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average person who wants to see deenlt paying jobs that somebody can support a family on. >> now general electric's ceo is on the president's manufacturing council before he chaired president obama's economic advisory board. little comfort to these workers watching their factory jobs disappear. >> i thought this was going to be the place, you know, where i can retire out of. >> reporter: wisconsin's unemployment rate is below the nation national average and manufacturers are hiring but they don't pay nearly as much as the union jobs at ge. >> to find a job with the money we make snou going to be pretty impossible. >> next toim possible. >> you can't support a family on $17 an hour zbhchlt even as they search for new jobs, their anger is raw. >> i don't own anything ge anymore. i don't even have a ge light bulb in my house anymore. >> reporter: christine romans, cnn money, new york.
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when president trump pulled the u.s. out of the paris climate accord he faced criticism not just overseas but here in the u.s. as well. some coastal communities are literally vanishing due to rising sea levels. that's what makes one virginia island so fascinating, politically. they're firmly behind the president even though their survival is threatened by the environment. >> we're running out of land to give up.
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>> reporter: residents in virginia don't have time to wait for the washington climate change. >> our problem is our communities eroding away. >> reporter: they live fewer than 100 miles from the white house on an island in the middle of the chesapeake bay, population about 450, area just 1.3 square miles and shrinking. during severe weather such as super storm sandy in 2012, the island is buried under feet of water. the army corp engineers tell cnn the rising sea levels alone will make this historic community uninhabitable in as little as 20 years, adding that one striking could make it even sooner. many families fishing off the island since the 18th century.
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>> what i tell the mayor is do not lose hope. >> reporter: the mare meet daily to discuss the island's fate. there are people out there who say just move. why do you live here? >> you don't just leave your home. >> we're savable right now. >> donald trump, if you see this, whatever you can do, we welcome any help you can give us. >> reporter: donald trump received 80 ers of the island's presidential votes last november. some say they care less about his controversial view on climate change and more on infrastructure. >> i'm concerned about our safety. >> reporter: they will begin building a jetty to frekt the island next year, but the rest of the island will need a barrier far more expensive to
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survive. >> we're being studied to death. we just need something done. >> reporter: mapping data shows just how much the shoreline has waned in the past. and without intervention the island will continue to disappear. so what could the island look like for future generations if the predictions do come true, well we're about to find out at a place called the uppards. she takes the short boat ride from the main island every day to walk along an abandoned shoreline and reflect on the past. as rantly as the 1920s an entire community lived right here. we're only about a mile and a half from tan ye geea and this is what is left of the uppards. >> when i find pieces of glass and pottery, i try to remind
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people what their lives were like. if we don't get help, it's going to be like uppards. he died in 1913. >> reporter: it wasn't many years after this the entire community was under. so it's got to be one of your fears walking around and wondering about your life. with many larger waterfront cities such as miami and new orleans threatened by climate change, convincing outsiders the town is worth saving is a challenge. >> it seems to me the decisions we as a country make about whether or not to save this place, will inform how we deal with much bigger problems in cities like miami, new orleans, and new york city. >> reporter: earth smith is working on a book about the
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climate plight. >> if you make the decision that whether or not you save a place is simply a function of head count, then it doesn't have a chance. you can't make it cost-effective. that's a dangerous slope to slide down if that's your chief decider, because then you find yourself having to come up with what number is the baseline. i think it'll be a real shame for us to get to that point. >> reporter: for now, the mood on tan geea opt mitsic. and hoping his view on climate change won't change their future. if you could say anything to him today, what would it be? >> he's talking about a wall, we'll take a wall. we'd love all the way around. >> reporting from tanger island, virginia. >> coming up, more developments surrounding jeff sessions and
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