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break out of this mold, then maybe something happens. >> maybe. >> thanks so our international viewers for watching if for your cnn newsroom is next. for u.s. voters, "new day" continues right now. all eyes on georgia today. >> the intensity is high. it's a neck in neck race. >> it's obviously a test of the trump brand now that he is president. >> let's send someone to washington who can really handle it. >> you're asked to pick up the phone on an investigation. >> the stone walling that we're getting over here at the white house. i don't know what world we're living in right now. >> you don't forget a $100 billion deal. >> are you under investigation by the special counsel? >> a lot of bad things happen but aleast we got him home to be with his parents. >> north koreans cannot be allowed to seize americans, brutalize them and send them home in a coma to die. >> the administration has to
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respond forcefully. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alison come ra do. >> the polls are open in georgia for the most expensive house race ever. democrats are hoping for a big win in georgia's sixth district. the implications could have big consequences for the president's agenda. mr. trump sees the urgency tweeting early this morning about the high zaks in this race. >> one of the biggest issues for voters there, health care. this comes after the fight over obamacare's future fights in the senate. democrats tying up the floor with a protest over the se kree -- secrecy. let's go to jason carroll. what's the mood? >> reporter: the mood is that so
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many are wanting the race to be over. it's too close to call at this point. let me give you an idea of what's been happening here in the sixth congressional district. for years it's been republican. donald trump narrowly carried it in 2016. democrats saw an open. enter jon ossoff. he got a lot of attention early on in the campaign by making the race about donald trump. you've got karen handle on the other side of things who says jon ossoff is another typical liberal. she's been doing all she can to tie him to nancy pelosi. you've got a race seen through the prism of how donald trump is doing. if ossoff wins, that's a huge boost f the democrats going forward, giving them the momentum they need going into the midterm elections. in handle pulls out a win, that's going to give the gop lawmakers a sign that perhaps
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what the president is doing is working. they will give them momentum trying to push through his agenda. but once again the race is too close to call at this point. polls close at 7:00. a nail biter for both sides. >> we'll check back in a little bit. it's a race against the clock not just in georgia but also in the health care debate. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell pushi ining for a vot the bill before the july 49 resays. democrats are taking control of the senate floor in protest of the gop's secret plan. suzanne malveaux live. the ironty of mcconnell who is vocal and rightly so about the aca process, even though there were all these hearings and now almost none. >> reporter: look at this. while many people were sleeping, late last night you had the democrats taking to the senate floor. they were certainly wide awake,
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staging this process, the talk-a-thon. very frustrated with the super secret process now that the republicans are engaged in here trying to come up with their own version of repealing and replacing obamacare. they've asked mitch mcconnell can we have some hearings, a deba debate, even a copy of the text when there is a text. mcconnell has said no to all of those requests. there's very little they can do. a couple of options to try to slow down the government process, routine process and also just simply to make some noise. >> the republicans are writing their health care bill under the cover of darkness because they're ashamed of it. >> if this bill were as wonderful as its proponents would like us to believe, it would be out in the open. >> there's only one word for the nate republicans are doing with this bill. shameful. >> and cnn learned that one of the things to negotiating is
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cuts in medicaid, deeper cuts for the senate version than the house bill. that ofgs satisfying the conservatives but really alienating some of the moderates. now to another important story, president trump condemning north korea after the death of american student otto warmbier after he spent 17 months in captivity. joe johns is live at the white house with more. >> reporter: this case is a mystery, a human tragedy and it only adds to the crisis that is north korea. and the administration's options may be limited because of concerns about other americans that are being imprisoned in north korea right now. meanwhile, the russia investigation continues to cause distractions for the white house. >> it's a brutal regime. and we'll be able to handle it. >> reporter: president trump
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under prerk sussure to take a h line against north korea amid outrage of the death of american student otto warmbier. the 22-year-old was released last week from north korean custody after spending 17 months in prison for trying to steal a propaganda poster. warmbier arrived in the u.s. with severe brain damage and in a coma >> he spent a year and a half in north korea, a lot of bad things happened. but at least we got him home to be with his parents. >> reporter: the president offering his deepest condolences in a statement and condemning the brutality of the north korean regime. secretary of state rex tillerson says that the united states hold north korea accountable for warmbier's unjust imprisonment. others taking a tougher stone with mccain stating plainly that warmbier was murdered by the kim jong-un regime. this coming as the president continue to confront the russia
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investigation back home. to top democrats in the house demanding documents related to general michael flynn's foreign work in a letter to flynn's lawyers alleging that president trump's fired national security adviser failed to disclose a 2015 middle east trip on a security clearance forms, a trip reportedly related to a major nuclear energy deal involving russia. democrats also alleging he left key information about a 2015 saudi arabia trip off those forms. this after a key member of the senate judiciary committee made this stunning statement about flynn on monday. >> all of the signals are suggesting that he's already cooperating with the fbi and may have been for some time. >> reporter: that committee now agreeing to widen the scope of its russia probe to include possible obstruction of justice. >> political interference with an ongoing investigation, regardless of what the president's lawyer may say could make the president a target, a
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subject, a person of interest. >> reporter: with the russia investigation expanding, the white house continues to stone wall reporters as sean spicer's future as press secretary remains unclear. >> the white house is refusing to answer those questions on camera. my guess is because they want their evasive answers not saved for posterity. >> reporter: and new this morning, cnn's correspondent reporting that members of the senate judiciary committee, the top members are expected to meet on wednesday with special con se counsel robert muller. the committee reached an agreement in its own investigation of russia's interference in the last election. likely to probe the president's interactions with former fbi director jim comey as well as questions of obstruction of justice. back to you. >> that will be interesting,
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joe. thank you very much for that. we have a lot to discuss with our panel. we want to bring in cnn political and cyst, david gregory and michael sheer. let's begin with the georgia race. david gregory, what is this a bellwether for? is this a bellwether for the mood today, a snapshot or the mid terms or president trump's agenda or what? >> reporter: well, i think it's all of those things. i think you want to try to measure voter intensity on both sides of the aisle but particularly democrats who are trying to retake congress and who would eventually like to get the white house back. you want to get some sense of what the -- how trump is per fornling overall with the electorate. how his agenda is measuring up. so you get some measure of this at some point. we'll most likely overread one way or the other into this special election. but there's so many national money that's been poured into this this. but that's what people are looking for.
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on the policy front, what's going to create the intensity. it's not just going to be the russia investigation. it's going to be health care. democrats want to use that argument to say we've got something to argue strongly when it comes to the mid terms next year. >> michael sheer, there's no question that both parties recognize the urgency right here. it's so different in feel from montana and kansas and certainly in terms of money. but for the democrats, you know, they need a win, right? they need to show that they have some prospect for change. how big is it there for? >> look, i think that's exactly right. as important as the actual results are, the psychology of the two parties, right? we know that president trump loves to portray himself as a winner. to the extent that the republicans can pull one out of the hat here and he wins again, he gets to go and describe him in the party as winners. for the democrats, they're so
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desperate to go against the republican district. if they can win, psychologically for them, even more important than one single congressional district which after all is not a harbinger of anything really. i mean you can't extrapolate and and say because they one this one district they're going the take back congress, psychologically it's important for them. >> let's look at this district in terms of the numbers and how much it has swung. in 2012 romney won by 23 points over president obama. then in 2016 trump won by 1.5%. >> right. >> over hillary clinton. so this, it's very very tough to predict. i mean even if you look at all of the soothe sayers, the projections are all over the math. >> the republicans should win because they outnumber the democrats in that district. they've hold it since '79. >> if math works, the republicans should win. >> the other number that is no ?
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in there is 35%, the president's approval rating in the district. one of the things that she's written about is that karen handle can't get out from under the trump approval ratings and her fortunes have risen and fallen with his which is why she's been trying to localize this race. they both have, particularly handle needs this race to be a local race which is why she was with sonny perdue and tom price in these final rallies, final moments going up to this race. so the fact -- this will also be a test for trump. and while michael is absolutely right, you can't really extrapolate 2018 based on one district, this is the type of district that democrats do need to win, wealthy well-educated. they need to win these districts in order to take back the house in 2018. there is a lot at stake here and they're looking to see if
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democrats do win, they're going to be looking to take this play book and see if they can bring it to other parts of the country. >> and david gregory, ossoff, certainly, he's a newby here but they feel like proxies for something bigger within their own parties and it seems to be centered, if not a referendum on trump but certainly what's going on with health care is going to matter in that district. what do you make of that process right now and how it plays ? >> well, the process is playing certainly toward both bases right, because as we've talked before this morning, this is such a major promise to conservative country that they would repeal and replace obamacare. they've got to be able to deliver on that. and democrats are trying to preserve obamacare, warts and all to say that at least coverage is important. and that you don't want to take people off of coverage even if you want to improve the system. that's going to become a big
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intense issue for the future of the democratic party which is preserving a big entitlement like this that helps people stay healthy, help. s them get access to insurance. whatever form the democrat party take, they're going to use as a central issue. >> if there is a vote on this, whatever the senate is doing, if there is a vote on this next week, how is it going to go? >> how is the actual vote going to to go? >> what is going to be the vote? >> i think the outcome of the health care vote is as uncertain as this out come of this race. they can only lose a couple of votes. and remember this, even if mitch mcconnell were able to get this passed, whatever this is, we don't know what this is yet, but if he gets it passed, there's a long road away for reconciling whatever the senate may pass
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with what the house passed. we're very much in the middle of the process and if there is a vote, whatever the outcome is very uncertain at this point. >> there is one thing to call out here. while it is true, we all remember from covering the aca that nancy pa lo say saying we've got to pass it and then they can read it, how all of the republicans were rightly upset about that. they're doing the same thing right now and then some. >> hypocrisy in washington? what? >> shock! >> even with that baseline we don't expect much better sadly. but they had so many hearings, so much out there in debate with the aca. there is none with this. they are intentionally keeping it quiet by all expectations, even within their own party. i'm sure the same thing for you as it is for me. how many republicans have said to you i don't really know. i can't figure it out. house republicans who are saying they're not really talking to us, they're not letting us know
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what's going on. it's so obvious that they're really trying to hide the ball here. >> it's true but it's not without reason and i'm not excusing it. but look what happened in the house process. when the white house got involved and all of these other people got involved, it became a huge mess. i'm not saying this won't end up being a mess. it might be a disaster. but at least in the nuts and bolts when they were putting it together, you remember the president would come out saying hey, we had a deal and would be talking about various things in this bill and it would explode and then the whole thing would fall apart. they've sort of watched the house process. and mitch mcconnell doesn't want to see that happen. this is one of the reasons it's under wraps. and to their credit, not a lot has leaked out yet. that said, you know, as you mentioned, the hypocrisy here is definitely rich. >> david, we have to talk about otto warmbier. what a heartbreaking sickening story and outcome.
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what can president trump do? if john mccain, his classification is right and this was the murder of a u.s. citizen, what can president trump do? >> it's a very hard story to follow and to have to watch. i mean the murder of an american citizen by this -- what the president accurately calls a brutal regime. where's the leverage. with some kind of military step, even if it were limited to send a message is the potential for an unhinged regime in north korea to quickly escalate when we have tens of thousands of troops in south korea. the other play, of course, is the influence of china and whether the united states in talks with china can get them to apply more pressure. we haven't seen a lot of that done successfully thus far which make this a tricky situation and very tricky to come out and say the united states has to do something. the administration appropriately so is playing this closely and
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carefully at the moment. >> just so we're clear, usually in these situations it's about detenti detention, refusal to release. if this is judged as homicide, which means this was human action that caused this young man's death, you have a different scenario on your hands and we'll see if the government talks about it in those terms. we should let everyone know coming up in "new day" in the next hour we'll be speaking with the democrat canned kate in the georgia election, jon ossoff. we invited karen handle. she declared for today. no cameras, no audio and very few answers. does the trump white house has a transparency issue? the answer is yes. we're going to discuss with an informal adviser to the president. why is this working, next. tech: when you schedule with safelite autoglass,
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all right. so we know that the senate is negotiating its health care proposal and that it's largely being done behind closed doors. some republicans don't even know what's in the bill. in the meantime we're entering day nine today, would be day
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nine without a white house press briefing. why. why isn't there for transparency. let's discuss with an informal adviser to president trump. anthony scaramucci good to have you on. >> great to see you, chris. >> day nine, this odd thing will spicer will talk but it's got to be off camera. why these games with transparency. >> i'm not in the meetings so i don't necessarily know the exact reasons but it appears from the outside at least for right now is that they're going to redesign the communications strategy and maybe sean will go into another role inside the white house and put somebody else behind the podium. >> do you think that's likely they'll move him? >> i don't know. some of the people i've talked to inside the white house are saying they're exploring a couple of different ideas. this is one thing i do like about the president. he's an entrepreneur. he'll experiment and do other things. i think he's loyal to sean.
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sean is a hardworking guy. he's got great communications experience and he may be the communications director or maybe even an assistance to reince priebus. hard to know from the outside to be candid. what i do like is they're going to try to experiment and maybe that's why they're off camera for a short period of time. >> we'll see which way it goes. with the president, and the gift of transparency, that's the gift of twitter. you know what's in his mind and in his heart. the white house owned of course these are official statements from the president of the united states. doesn't matter what account it's coming from. he has not said to the uk open -- i don't know what's happened privately but publicly, condolences for this most recent attack. the speculation is maybe because it involves muslims. maybe it's because he's got a
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problem with the mayor there. why hasn't he said anything? >> he's an e notimotional guy. you saw the condolences with the north korea situation. some of t so my guess is that he probably will very shortly offer condolences if he hasn't done it publicly. maybe he has done it privately. >> in the past he's done it very quickly. >> here's the point you're trying to make is that could it be because of the way the attack was versus other attacks. >> when something is outside the norm of how he usually behaves after an attack, you have to ask why is it different. >> here's the biggest problem with the whole system in my opinion. not only are you inside a bubble but you have all of us examining you inside the bubble. you're in the little fishbowl. it could be that for whatever
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reason he didn't do it. >> he's not in a bubble. he's probably watching prieth now and he's going to comment on your tie and your hair. >> he likes my tie and my hair style but he doesn't like you. >> he doesn't like anything about me. >> maybe your hairline. >> i don't like my hairline. don't distract me, scaramucci. why is it different? why do you think? >> i don't know the answer. here's what i do know about him. what he said about the north koreans, i think they should take that seriously. we're going to say -- >> what did he say? >> he said we're tough enough to hear. >> he said we'll handle it. what does that mean? >> well if you remember -- >> a potential homicide of an american. >> 100-day period after he met with president xi, he's asked for help from the chinese government, moved things around militarily to send a signal that we he's going to handle the north korea situation with or without the help of china.
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my hope is that china is going to take this seriously and work with the president. >> we haven't seen anything. the trump white house got otto warmbier home. that deserves credit. >> also the egyptian president. >> absolutely. but i'm saying in this case, otto warmbier they got him home, the obama administration could not do it. that warrants kudos. however if this is judged a homicide, meaning this young man's death came about because of human action, that's on north korea. and the question is if that doesn't demand a muscular response, that does. i'm putting it in those terms because it's what the president said he would do. >> he said it yesterday. look. again you with like the president or dislike him. i happen to love the guy. and let me tell you, when he says something like that he means it and the world should wake up and pay attention to what he's saying. at some point the american government and the president have to respond to people like
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the north koreans. you know, if you've got concentration camps in north korea, which you and i both know about, and this has been allowed to persist for 60 or 70 years, at some point moral people have to look at in in concert with the global community and eradicate it. what i love about the president, he means what he says. he's an american businessman who will respond effectively to this situation and catch people off gourd with his reaction. >> another situation i need help understanding. the president says what he means, i agree with you most of the time. and when he was tweeting about this russia investigation, he clearly doesn't like it because he believes that whatever is going on is bad for him. and so he puts his attorney out there to argue that he is not under investigation. why? why take on such a small point
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that defies the obvious? >> well, i think there's a number of different reasons. i can fgive you my reasons. i think what the president sometimes does, he's a media -- you know, this is good for you, probably good for ratings. the president is watching, reading a lot of stuff and he probably doesn't like a lot of the stuff that he's reading that he thinks is very unfair. we can disagree about that but mainstream media has not been fair to the president. they weren't fair to him when he was a candidate, not fair to him today. i don't think he's under investigation but i don't know the facts. i'm not the fbi or robert mueller. >> there's no reason to believe that mueller wouldn't be looking at the situation surrounding the firing of the director of the fbi. common sense. >> i understand that. when james comey said several times he's not under investigation -- >> that has nothing to do with whether mueller would look at the firing. >> i understand that. >> but you guys keep making up,
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telling me he's not under investigation. >> you're making great points. >> go ahead. make a great point. counter. >> your viewers are loving you for the great point. but he's got a phenomenal attorney. the president has done nothing wrong. i said that last week from washington. i'll say it to you today. i can stand by that confidently. i have known the guy for many many years. and i think integrity as a human being in a situation like that i think is unquestioned. >> here's what i'm saying. >> let me finish. >> i want to ask a question about your comment. you made your point, right? >> yeah. the president has done nothing wrong. that's my point. >> and i'm saying that's fine for you to hold that opinion. there's an investigation going on. we'll see what it yields. comey told the press he wasn't under investigation. fine. what does that have to do with mueller examining the circumstances surrounding the firing of comey? >> so you're saying that he's under investigation by mueller
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surrounding the circumstances of the firing of comey? >> comey said as much in his testimony. >> i did take constitutional law at harvard law school. the president has the right to fire the fbi director. the president got information and a recommendation from the deputy. he told lester holt that he would have fired him anyway and he made a decision to fire the fbi director. >> he said for man that to lester holt. >> we're talking about this specific issue. >> on this specific issue he said more. continue. >> let's stay on this issue. >> i am. >> i'm right here with you, let me finish the point. >> go ahead. >> here's the point. the president said he would have fired him one way or the other. he has the right to do that. people in the media are suggesting maybe he fired him as a way to obstruct justice on the russian situation. >> what did the president say to l lester holt.
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>> what did he say? >> he said i had russia on my mine. this whole russia thing, i don't like what comey is doing about it so i fired him. >> i generally like this about you. and your ear very good at this. you're probably really good at cross word puzzles too. but let's stay on this point. the president did nothing wrong. he fired the guy. he didn't think he was doing the right job for him. he has the right to fire him. >> he has the right to fire him and we can examine why. it's a pattern of other behavior. >> he's sitting there frustrated -- >> he doesn't like the russia probe. >> it's a motion. >> it's certainly not a hoax. >> yes, it is. >> anthony, you don't belief that. >> i do believe that. >> that's something separate. >> we're arguing two different things. >> you conflate them. >> i do not. the president has been clear about that. >> no so much.
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>> he has. >> he calls it a hoax. >> he doesn't say let's find out what happens with russia. >> he calls it as a hoax. >> as it relates to the investigation. >> as it relates to the investigation of him -- >> and james comey said the president talked to me nine times and never asked him about the russia investigation into the election interference. what does that tell us? he doesn't tear about that. he cares about what happens to him. >> okay. this is where i'm going to totally disagree with you on that. >> please. >> and i'm respectful to you. the president does care. the president has said on more than one occasion that once all of the facts and the findings are unveiled that he would act in a judicious way as it related to russia and other countries if other countries -- >> and he calls the issue a hoax and the people do it bad and conflicted. >> you should respect my issue and my issue is -- >> you are here because i respect your take. >> let me give you my take.
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the president has an agenda to help the american people, lower middle class families and middle class families. these sorts of scandals has got to be frustrating to an american businessman that is now the commander and chief and president. he wants to execute his agenda. he wants to bring the congress together and get wins on the board for the american people as it relates to health care reform. democrats know that has to be reformed as well as the republicans. we may disagree on the nature of the bill but we know that that obamacare situation has to be reform. we haven't reformed the tax code since 1986. that's a generation plus six or seven years of no reform of the tax code. we have to fix the tax code. >> we're waiting to hear what the plan is. >> but we're so distracted by all of this -- >> you can do two things at once. you can't say that the russia situation doesn't matter. it just does. >> why don't we get guests on "new day" to talk about health care. >> we do.
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we have them allon all of the t. a lot of republicans won't come on and talk about it. >> you're a tough interviewer, chris. >> they can talk to alison. >> i'm going to stay on my point. he is a great guy. a moral leader. i think he'll handle the north korea situation. i think he'll execute on taxes and health care. and my guess is when this is all over, i hope people in the mainstream media will vindicate him. when they were rallying on him and writing all of his op eds saying he's the worst guy ever and shouldn't the president and made it to the presidency, the "the new york times" had to have an apology. and my guess is when the investigation is over, the smart people in the media will have to have a come up yans and say hey. there was no there there.
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there might be activity related to the russians. a a totally different topic. >> there is a relationship between all of the questions being asked. mueller should be allowed to do his job and we'll see what comes out of it. always a pleasure. thank you. >> anthony scaramucci your wish is my command. our next guest is going to talk health care because senate democrats are protesting the secrecy of the republicans over their health care bill. what did their protest accomplish last night. chris murphy is going to join us next. his. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced. our senses awake. our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say...if you love something set it free.
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why are my constituents not allowed to see the details about what's about to happen to their lives. why are only a select group of americans able to have a voice inside that room. my constituents are americans just like the constituents in the republican states are americans. they deserve to know what's about to happen to them. >> that was senator chris murphy on the late shift last night as
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the democrats held space on the floor. democrat senator murphy is of connecticut joining us now. he is a member of the committee on health and the foreign relations committee. good morning, senator. how are you? >> good morning. a little tired but glad to be with you. >> what time were you up to last night. >> somewhere around 1:00 in the morning. >> right. so you're pags of you and that of your colleagues on the floor, it didn't stall the republicans' work on this health care bill. what did you accomplish? >> two things. we're clearly trying to shame our republican colleagues into opening up the process. every single one of them almost to a person claimed that democrats in 2009 were ramming through the affordable health care act when in fact that bill was public for the american people to see for months. there was a 30-day debate in the united states senate. and they are about to bring a bill that reorders one-fifth of the american economy, jacks up rates on everybody, takes
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insurance potentially from millions to the senate floor without more than a day or two of viewing by the american public. we're trying to shame the republicans to open up the process. we're also trying to wake the american people up to what's happening. there was a lot of coverage on the russian investigation and the shooting here in washington. and republicans are used that news as cover to move a bill to the senate floor that is deeply unpopular. we do want to wake the constituents of our republican colleagues up so they can start flooding their offices with calls to tell them to stop it, don't do something that's going to be this damaging. >> if somehow today republicans came to you and said okay, you win, we're going to work with you, we're going to find some consensus to fix obamacare, what's the first thing you do? >> i think it's there. so we want the trump administration to stop sabotaging the affordable health
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care act. that's what trump is doing right now. he's refusing to pay insurers. he won't advertise for it. he's not enforcing the individual mandates. we immediaknead some legislatio >> you sayi ining it was just f before the trump administration started doing this? lots of people felt it was broke. >> let's remember before trump took office we were on pace to have record enrollment in the affordable care act. that enrollment dropped off of a cliff donald trump was sworn into office. prices are high, drug companies are getting away with murder. but we could sit down and talk about all of that. the fact of the matter is that the republicans haven't tried. from the beginning they locked themselves in a room and shut out democrats and owl of our constituen constituents. that's not what the democrats did in 2009. ultimately they did pass a bill that didn't have republican support but they spent an
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exhaustive amount of time in 2009 trying to bring the republican to the table. the republicans didn't try. they're doing this in a blindly partisan way. >> senator i want the talk to you about some breaking news that we had yesterday on this show and that was that the u.s. navy, a jet, has shot down a syrian war plane. and that caused quite a strong reaction from russia, in fact a threat i will read to you. from now on in areas with russia aviation performs combats in the syria air, any airborne objects found in the west of u frayties will be considered air trargets >> you have to put the shooting down of this jet in context. in the last 45 days we've had at least four engagements that we know about between u.s. military forces inside syria. and the syrian regime, elements
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of the syrian regime that are supported by iran and russia. this is a dangerous escalation. it's unauthorized. there's no authorization for military force that congress has passed that gives the president the ability to take military action against the syrian regime. and we have to understand what we're getting involved in, not just fighting bashar al assad. if you're going to ramp up military activity against assad, you're going in against iran and russia. i think we're getting closer and closer to open conflict with russia and the american public needs to know that we're moving very fast towards what could be another war inside the middle east. something by the way that donald trump promised he wouldn't do when he ran for office. >> you tweeted you consider this a red alert that you're trying to alert the american public about this. it sound like ominous the way you phrased it. would you authorize that military force against the assad regime? >> i would not. i would not.
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ultimately we need to be at war with isis. we need to be fighting this terrorist group. i certainly would authorize military force against isis with the proper constraints around it but the united states should stay out of the syrian war. it is not in our interest to get involved in the civil war and put in u.s. military force to fight bashar al assad. that would be another mistake on the scope of the iraq war. >> senator chris murphy, thank you very much for all of the information. nice to talk to you. >> thank you. some weather news for you strong storms tear through the northeast and a tropical storm threatens the gulf coast. chad myers has the forecast next. and choose what's right for you. woah. flo and jamie here to see hqx. flo and jamie request entry.
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that says the rain is over. it was heavy across parts of the northeast. there was wind damage all over the place. we also have this tropical storm system that you're talking about, not storm yet because it doesn't have a name. the name will be cindy. this weather is brought to you by purina, your pet, our passion. heavy rain for the gulf coast. tropical storm warnings for the gulf coast. but i believe not only will this just make a 45-mile-per-hour wind, this will make flash flooding. this is a fresh water flood event. this is not really a storm that's going to make a lot of wind damage but it's going to come on shore in louisiana, put down nearly 10 inches of rainfall and that will be the biggest threat here, that flash flooding that's going to come up here with the potential tropical store number three. if it gets a name, it will be cindy. >> okay, thank you for that warning. senator john mccain calls the death a case of murder. so what will the use response be? former cia and nsa director michael hayden discusses the big picture with us next.
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american citizen, was murdered by the kick jong-un regime. if that's true, how will the u.s. respond? let's bring in cnn national security knowledge annist and former director of cia and nsa general michael hayden. general, thank you for being with us. >> good morning. >> the premise here needs some definition. you've had people held in countries by different despots before. but if otto warmbier's death is judged a homicide caused by the actions of one man, that would be foot squarely at the feet of north korea. does that change the analysis? >> it gives us an additional tool we might want to use in order to put additional pressure on the north korean regime. recall, chris, we did indict members of the people's liberation army for cyberattacks against the united states. now, that had no practical effect. but the symbolic effect i
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thought was quite clear and strong. we might want to put this particular action on the part of the north korean regime in the law enforcement track as just an additional tool we have to up the pressure on the north koreans. >> general, isn't this the problem, no practical effect? i mean, what are the options? i know it's always dicey obviously dealing with north korea so what can the president do? >> there are very few options. if there were good options, this would have been done already. look, this is a pathetic, pathological little gangster regime that fundamentally survives on criminal activity in order to bring in hard currency. now, there are fissures in the regime. although we've made it our policy this is not about regime change, but we could increase pressure on them. kim has got to deliver goods and services to the north korean elite. luxury goods and services. and so the pressure we could
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bring to bear to make that even more difficult for him i think  actually gets his attention. recall in the bush administration, when we put sanctions on a bank in mccow, thought it would be an irritant to the north korean regime. turns out it looks like we're strangling an artery because that's the way they were laundering money to bring luxury goods in to north korean elite. if this were easy or obvious, we'd have done it already. our tools here are limited. >> well, part of the scrutiny here is that president trump criticized the obama administration for being weak and said he would be strong and he pointed to north korea specifically for who would be the recipient of a more muscular policy. now, what do you think he needs to do to own that right now? >> chris, if it were easy, it would have been done. you know, your predecessors don't have to be incompetent or
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lazy or weak to have an ugly situation. that's easy campaign talk, but once you get into the office, reality sets in and you find that your tools are really quite limited. now look, i think the president and his administration has done a pretty good job amping up the pressure on the north koreans. a little demonstration of american military power, a little pressure on the chinese, an awful lot of rhetoric and strong worlds. i think that's all good and frankly a bit of an improvement over the obama administration, but it's not a magic elixir. it's not going to make this problem go away. it simply increases the cost on the north korean regime. >> general, i want to ask you about something that senator chris murphy, whom we just had on, talked about. he is quite concerned that there is a kind of quiet escalation going on in russia right now, particularly in the skies over syria. in fact, you know there is now tension whereby the u.s. shot
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down this syrian jet, that it bombed the wrong target, and russia says, well, guess what, we're going to stop cooperating with the u.s. in the skies. how do you see it? >> yes, a sense of alarm is warranted, although i think some of his policy suggestions i would not support. look, what's happening here, guys, is that we actually had kind of two wars going on in syria. we were fighting this one against isis. we tried to keep it tactically and geographically separate from the one over here. which was the regime supported by the iranians and the russians against the syrian opposition forces. we've done very well against isis. the regime's done reasonably well against the opposition. and now that regime war is geographically and strategically moving into our operational space and our war against isis. that was strategically inevitable. probably hastened by the trump
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administration's i think wise policy of moving the temple of operations against isis up. but this was inevitable and now we're seeing these two wars intermix and, let me be candid, i don't think we have a strategy for how we want to handle this. what we did on sunday was force protection. they were attacking forces loyal to us. what is our policy about what is clearly an iranian and syrian land grab, drafting on our military success against isis, moving eastward to control the border crossings between iraq and syria. >> strong point that fieeeds in something we're finally seeing in the senate. they're meeting about the authorization for use of military force is in a time that the president of the united states address congress and the american people and say what the plan is. general, thank you very much. >> thank you. all right, there's a lot of news. let's get after it. >> i feel really good, ver


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