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russians hacked the elections, the white house only goes as far to say they probably did. intelligence describing vladimir putin's direct involvement in the cyber attacks with one goal in mind -- make sure hillary clinton lost and donald trump won. also, a remarkable behind-the-scenes look at how then president obama did and did not respond, including a direct face-to-face confrontation between presidents obama and putin with mr. obama telling him to stop or else. joining us now is a staff writer at "the washington post." part of the team that broke the story. adam, thank you so much for being with us. this begins the story i commend everyone to read, remarkable account of an envelope delivered to the white house with intelligence inside about vladimir putin directing hacks into the u.s. election. >> right. so basically what happened is, the cia sent this very sensitive document by courier to the white house. it was clearly instructed to be
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given only to a select group of the president and his top advisers for their eyes only. after they read the document they were instructsed to put it back in the envelope, send it back to langley via courier as soon as they finished reading it, it was that sensitive. so sensitive, in fact, that the initial meetings excluded some very senior top officials, including the secretary of state and the secretary of defense. that's how sensitive this was, and how restricted this information was held within the obama administration. >> and this intelligence, which you know is stunning from where it came from, the sources within side russia said what? that vladimir putin was directing attacks -- to hurt hillary clinton and to help continue to? >> righ >> -- donald trump? >> right. the cia obtained precise instruction from putin. this, again, came from a very sensitive source of information. we are withholding some details
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of that per request of the cia and other government agencies that want to, of course, protect their ability to continue to get that kind of information. and so whatthis was, was as close to a smoking gun evidence as you can get. and yet it really wasn't enough for obama and his top aides. they instructed the cia to work with the nsa and work with the fbi to come up with what's known as a high-confidence assessment which does not actually come together until late september. >> and that, of course, is another big part of what is so fascinating about the article today. what the obama administration did and did not do, and in cases now there's deep regret over what they did not do amongst some democrats and some people in the white house. one source quoting to your article, the hardest thing about my entire time in government to defend. i feel like we sort of choked. that's from a former senior obama official, adam. what does he or she mean? >> what that person means is that, you know, from where he was sitting, it -- it looked
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like more could have and should have been done sooner. but when you, you know -- you have to keep in mind here that this was very complex. obama wanted to avoid what he saw as a worst-case scenario, which would be that the russians actually intervened to try to actually effect the voting itself on election day, on our before election day. that was the priority. so he didn't want to retaliate before the election for fear any retaliation would just provoke putin to make things worse. so then they decided to go after the election, and when they started having this debate over what to do, of course, you had different institutions, state department, cia, the treasury department, they all wanted to kind of protect their own equities in this. so the result was a more watering down approach, which required susan rice in a key meeting to basically say, you know, stop -- you know, stop bickering among yourselves. let's settle on this package.
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that said, that package, by pretty much all accounts could be called modest in its impact and largely symbolic, because in the end, you know, there really wasn't much that the obama administration could do in terms of sanctions that couldn't have blowback effects to effect u.s. businesses or european allies. >> before the election, pushback, not just from the states, you noted, when the administration tried to reach out to state election officials to warn them what was going on. curiosity, some perhaps doubts there, but also pushback from within congress. mitch mcconnell, we sort of knew going in. mitch mcconnell didn't trust this intelligence? >> right. so what happened in august and early september is brennan, with this intelligence, is making the rounds of what's known as the gang of eight. these are the top eight members of congress that get access to the most sensitive intelligence. when they went to go see the democrats, it was easy to sell them on this intelligence. when they -- when brennan saw
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paul ryan in comparison to mcconnell, ryan was receptive. very concerned about what the russians were doing. he believed the intelligence community on that score. mcconnell, on the other hand, was incredibly skeptical. in fact, his skepticism back then in august and early september can be very -- you can see very similar to what we hear from trump today, k4 which is, thought it was politicized for the sake of helping hillary clinton. when mcconnell did that, the message to the obama team was, whatever they decided to do going forward on this, it would be seen as partisan. that they were going to be attacked by the republicans of trying to help hillary, no matter what they did. >> and we heard from jeh johnson in his testimony this week. afraid of the political implications of coming forward. you described face-to-face confrontation between president obama and president putin. what was said? what was the effect? >> yeah. i wouldn't call it a confrontation.
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certainly it was a discussion that was heated. they didn't obviously come to blows, but -- >> right. >> -- what the president said was effectively, knock it off or else. you know? the threat there was that the u.s. would do something very serious to the russian economy. putin responds to the president by saying, we weren't doing anything. you know, basically saying that there's nothing here. you're accusing the wrong guy. now, this is at a point in time when you know, the administration is trying to prevent the russians from actually intervening in the vote, and the president's take away from that encounter when they looked at the intelligence that followed that encounter was that, that russia did not escalate. of course, at that point the damage, if you will, had already been done. the e-mails had already been taken from democratic institutions, and had already been leaked to wikileaks and had started to be released at that point. >> the propaganda campaign if it
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stopped anything, can't be sure it did, maybe it stopped the russians from meddles with both counts and the like. finally your story goes into measures that the president took in the waning days. these digital bombs, cyber implants going forward. explain what they are. >> yeah. so towards the end, in addition to the public sanctions that were announced. that's the expulsion of the diplomats that was announced. closure of the two facilities, that was announced. the president made a public statement in which he alluded to actions that would be taken but not announced at a time and place of the u.s.' choosing. he was alluding there to two things -- one was an operation conducted to basically show the russians that the u.s. had a capability on the cyber side as a warning to them. not to go -- not to try this again. secondly, he signed a covert finding with, which authorized the cia, the nsa and cyber command to basically put in
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place these little implants, maybe little is not the right word, to put these implants in place that potentially could be set off in future, in order to basically, again, deter the russians from doing this. keep in mind here, this is a finding that basically stays in effect, unless trump basically issues a second order to remove it. so unless trump acts to remove this finding by obama, it stays in effect. >> now, that's fascinating. is there evidence yet that the current president trump has countermanneded this effort as of now? >> as far as we know the answer to that is, no. we know the trump administration has been negotiating with the russians over potentially giving them access to those two facilities that obama shut down. but we have seen nothing, none of our sources told us anything about any change in that covert finding. >> right. of course. hard to get answers directly from any administration on
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something like that, but it is interesting to wonder what they will do going forward. adam, a terrific report in "the washington post." posted online right now. thank you so much for coming on with us. appreciate it. >> thank you very much. when it um cans to the investigation into russia's hacking, the president says he does not have tapes of his discussions with james comey. there are tapes of him questioning the objectivity of the special counsel robert mueller. >> should he recuse himself? >> he's very, very good friends with comey, which is very bothersome, but he's also -- we're going to have to see. i mean, we're going to have to see in terms -- look, there has been no obstruction. there has been no collusion. there has been leaking by comey, but there's been no collusion, no obstruction, and virtually everybody agrees to that. so we'll have to see. i can say that the people that have been hired are all hillary clinton supporters. >> so this tape, this tape now exists, which we'll talk about,
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but another one doesn't, according to the president. the president floated the idea there were tapes of his conversations with james comey and basically admits now he was making it up, we wrote, with all the intercepts unmasking illegal leaking of information, i have no idea whether there are tapes or recordings of my conversations with james comey but i did not make and do not have any such recordering. cnn washington correspondent joe johns at the white house with the tapes that don't exist, probably, and the ones that now do, of the president's comments on robert mueller. >> reporter: that's right. you know, there's a lot going on there, john. questioning whether robert mueller ought to recuse himself has become a favorite conservative talking point. former speaker newt gingrich has talked about it. even though the selection of robert mueller as special counsel got high praise from both sides of the aisle on capitol hill. mueller, of course, the second longest fbi director serving right after j. edgar hoover.
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today was the day that house investigators gave the white house to turn over recordings if they xifrt existed of the presi conversations with the other former fbi director, jim comey. of course, the president ending that controversy the same way it started. by issuing a tweet. and in that tweet he actually ended up creating questions about his own credibility, even as the president was questioning the credibility of james comey. listen -- >> when he found out that i -- you know that there may be tapes out there. whether it's governmental tapes or anything else and who knows, i think his story may have changed. i mean, you'll have to take a look at that, because then he has to tell what actually took place at the events, and my story didn't change. >> reporter: no on-camera briefing at the white house today. the white house says there will be a briefing, but it won't be
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for public consumption. kellyanne conway saying on cnn just a little while ago that as far as she's concerned this is a very accessible white house, because the communications shop does answer the questions of reporters on demand. john, back to you. >> why should the public get to see it as it happens? joe johns, thank you for your reporting. appreciate it. this report in "the washington post" on russian meddles in the election, vladimir putin ordering the hacking to help donald trump, hurt hillary clinton. plus, new information about how the obama white house did and did not respond. much more on that. plus, can you count to 50? this man needs to. maybe within a week or less. can mish mcconnell deliver republican votes on his health care bill? plus, a small but loud group of democrats meeting behind closed doors talking about trying to oust minority leader in respect nancy pelosi.
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riveting new details this morning about russia's meddling in the u.s. election. "the washington post" revealing new details about how vp direla putin directly ordered cyber attacks with one goal in mind, help donald trump win. all of this as president trump finally after 41 days set the record straight admitting he does not have recordings of fired fbi director james comey. and the department of homeland security, our panel, and contributor and supporter for "the washington examiner" and others. this "washington post" story, the clinical firm, a whiz-bang of a story, and begins with remarkable detail of an intelligence packet arriving at the white house, which was described as the order, the actual order from vladimir putin to his intelligence officials to hack in to the u.s. election.
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remarkable to see that level of detail, julia. >> yes. it is. and it confirms what has been sort of a growing suspicion based and some of the senate intelligence hearing testimony that basically russia had a targeted kill on hillary clinton, not to be too technical about. a suspicion out there russia threw a lot of things against the wall and lo and behold something stuck and they were just trying to mess up our democracy. this story, if accurate, we have every reason to believe it's accurate, confirms that this was russia infiltration in our election to hurt hillary clinton, help donald trump and the takeaway is, flunless we do something, they are going to pick who gets to win or who doesn't, or help pick who gets to win and who doesn't. >> you used the phrase, "unless we do something". alex, one of the remarkable things, the account step-by-step what the obama administration did or did not do to address
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these serious concerns, alex? >> absolutely. one of the issues you heard talked about privately in washington including among former clinton campaign officials, including senior democrats, the sense that the administration had the opportunity to act or to speak publicly during the campaign and repeatedly chose not to. the sense among clinton associates is it really left her out on the field and what you see in "the washington post," this account of multiple times the administration walked up to the edge being more aggressive publicly and stepped back based on the fact it would look on their part political iran ference. >> part of it was political interference and logistical from the state and country, part of intelligence agencies not on the same page but didn't address it as strongly as they could and an official in the article, jackie, quoted, senior administration official, hardest time to defend of my time in government. i feel like we sort of choked.
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all talking about our feelings now, i feel this week we're starting to hear more democrats come out and speak publicly about this. jeh johnson talking about this frustrations. adam schiff in his questions of jeh johnson really dig in, say, come on. why wasn't more done? you saw this? >> i was going to say that you saw the anger and frustration that was directed at jeh johnson during that, during that hearing. i think it was notable, because democrats are frustrated that the obama administration didn't do -- didn't do anything, but didn't do enough to address this until it was too late and didn't realize there was -- it said in the article -- didn't realize how devastating this actually was until trump actually one pap cold comfort coming out now to democrats. i have to say, one of the things that struck me this morning, listening to interview with alisyn and kellyanne conway. first question asked about this story and the first thing
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kellyanne said was, we didn't do it. there was no collusion. we had nothing -- we aren't a part of this. and that is also striking. very much what we heard from this administration, but it's not about what russia did. it's, again, about the white house. it's about them internalizing this, thinking it's an her legitimacy and it's not. this is something that you'd hope the trump administration would continue to look into, and dig into, because it's so important that what happened in 2016 does not happen again. >> they cannot separate, celine asaito, that this is about america. this is about america, not necessarily only about him and his legitimacy, the president. united states that is, and along those lines, president trump is out in the open this morning on "fox and friends," that show, talking about the special counsel. robert mueller. suggesting he has a lot of people working with him that donated to hillary clinton. true. a lot of democratic donors on
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his legal team, trump allies noted but the president hasn't talked about it until just now. i wonder if he has a new confidence or why out in the open with this now, selena what do you think? >> i'm not quite sure. one of the things i've noted since election day is that the administration has almost sort of had a hard time separating the commentary about him not winning the popular vote and you know, there's more voters out there with clinton, and it seems to have leaded into the fabric about the russian hacking and he appears to always feel as though he's not been legitimized by the national press or by the political class, and he's had a really, really hard time separating himself from that. and i think that had has a chip on his shoulder about that, and he's always going to cast doubt
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about that. one of the things i wanted to say is, listening to the interview you had with the reporter from "the washington post" and reading that story, i mean, it reminded me of, like, a six-part hbo series when you watch like all of these -- these fabrics of american government. not working together. and you have the one, you know, congressman who believes it. you have the one senator who's skeptical. this thing couldn't have been written more creatively by an hbo writer than what we saw in that report. that was -- it was just crazy. >> and gets to the big issue. again, this is about america and the safety of election system as much as it's about anything else. if you just focus on that part of it, it's an issue that needs to be addressed. alex, you're not a lawyer but live near a law school. i want to asking about something the president also said today. talking about the tapes he now add midst does not exist with the conversation with james comey. when you found out there may be
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tapes, governmental tapes or anything else and who knows, i think his story may have changed. again, this is the president saying stuff out loud. does it out loud and on twitter. could come back to hurt him. that claim i made, which was false, may have influenced a witness who testified under oath. >> right. as you say, i'm not a lawyer, but you would think that would be the kind of thing you'd be careful about saying. if you compare it with his tweets yesterday, copping to their not being tapes out there, at least that these aware of, was very cautious, pretty obviously lawyered sounding language. right? >> lawyered tweets were there. >> not what we heard this morning. >> all right, guys. i would be remiss if i did not play sfrouound from a hollywood actor talking in a way completely and utterly inappropriate. johnny depp, i think he was in england talking about this. listen to what he said. >> when was the last time an actor assassinated a president? [ cheers ]
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now,clarify. i'm not an actor. >> first of all, i mean, i think it was johns wilkes booth who assassinated abraham lincoln and it's inappropriate to talk about this. julia, you've worked in the administration before. these types of comments have to be addressed by the government and by the secret service. it's just unfortunate and offensive. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, obviously, the secret service isn't stupid in the sense that they understand the context of johnny depp, but, look, they don't know who's listening. these are just student comments. people should stop saying them. not because we think johnny depp, who i believe was speaking english but i couldn't quite understand what he was saying, but not because they believe johnny depp will do something, but obviously we live in a period in which people are incited to violence on the left and on the right, hate groups across the board. people in powers, in leadership
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positions, actors, commentators, journalists, everyone, just take it down a little bit. we all have to act as leaders, because, because times are really just too -- toxic right now, and everyone la to take a responsibility for the tone that we set. >> there's a way to speak out against something and be in opposition without saying things that are potentially hurtful or inciteful. thank you all. great discussion. appreciate it, thanks for being on. the republican health care bill, the divisions, how big are they for real? we'll discuss. listen up, heart disease.) you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression,
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as it is written and are? ing for changes. if more than two vote no the bill will fail, but this morning the president doesn't seem too concerned. >> well, there are also four good guys that are four friends of mine and i think they'll probably get there. we'll see. obamacare is a disaster, and we're trying to do something in a very short period of time. >> note there were pictures a lot of people saw yesterday outside senate majority leader mitch mcconnell's office. capitol police removing democratdemocrat democraten straighters. many chronically ill saying cuts to medicaid will be catastrophic for them. cnn's suzanne malveaux and m.j. lee joining me now. talk about the postures and numbers games on capitol hill? >> i'll get to that. i covered the protests yesterday and met a lot of people in mcconnell's office. one a gentleman in a wheelchair said he'd been a quadriplegic since he was 6 years old from a
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diving accident and saw two people in similar situations die of dead sores untreated when they ran out of money. for them medicaid is a life or death issue. tremendousality of backlash from this legislation. talking about the aarp, the american medical association, democrats, of course, united behind this, but also you have on the other side conservatives. conservative senators who say this does not go far enough in repealing obamacare and does not lower the cost of premiums or health care in general. take a listen. >> this current draft doesn't get the job done. >> down as a solid undecided. >> keeps the pre-existing condition, keeps regulations and subsidizes the death spiral. we are not fixing obamacare. >> i cannot support a bill that is going to result in tens of millions of people losing their health insurance. >> reporter: democratic senators say this is not more than a tax break for the wealthy.
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a transfer of wealth from the poor to the wealthy. president obama spoke out on facebook on his page hitting back on this fight to dismantle his signature domestic legislation achievement saying the senate bill unveiled today is not a health care bill. smau tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation. so, john, what we'll see next week is the senate that is going to be debating this, going get a cbo score and hope to have a vote before july 4th. john? >> all right. suzanne malveaux, stand by. thanks so much. m.j. lee with me now. from a policy standpoint, what are the sticking points? >> the things we hear often about mitch mcconnell, a skilled tactician. talk about the policy points. we're going to have to negotiate to try to get at least two of those four conservatives onboard and as suzanne touched on a little, two things bother these four senators. plain english, one, they really believe that this bill does not go far enough in repealing
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obamacare. so insurance regulations that really bothered them because they see that as the government being too involved in setting up insurance companies and the different plans they offer. that is going to be one big thing. the second thing, they do not believe that the bill goes far enough in lowering premiums. something that ted cruz, for example harks been very outspoken about. whatever negotiations happen behind closed doors are the two things expected to be really talked about between mcconnell and these four conservative members. i should note we heard some of the sound from someone like senator collins, conservatives are not the only one whose have concerns. dean heller, susan collins, rob portman, three examples of senators more moderate senators, who all put out statements yesterday saying they have serious concerns, especially when it comes to the medicaid piece of this. so we can't assume there are nos. could be more who have not said in public they can't support this bill. one thing next week that could
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really help or hurt mitch mcconnell. the cbo report. we expect it out monday or tuesday. remember, when the house republican bill came out the cbo report was simply devastating for the house republicans. it said 23 million fewer people would be covered under the house republican bill than compared to obamacare. a headline like that, you can imagine pushing over some of the folks already on the fence in the senate. >> sure. listen to what susan collins said. if tens of millions lose their medicaid, it isn't quite a one-for-one thing. the house bill, more than 10 million fewer people would receive medicaid after that. if that sticks, maybe she would be a no vote also. m.j. lee, suzanne malveaux, thanks so much. the secret talks behind closed doors. a small group of democrats. brainstorming ways to get rid of minority leader nancy pelosi. we'll speak to someone in the room, next. beyond is a natural pet food
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nancy pelosi has a message for disgruntled democrat whose want her to step away saying, i'm not going anywhere. this in the wake of the special election loss saying she, not her critics will decide how long she gets to keep her post. >> when it comes to personal ambition, having fun on tv, have your fun. i love the arena. i thrive on competition, and i welcome the discussion. >> all right. joining me now, texas democratic congressman from texas. as i said, who is now, wants nancy pelosi out as the democratic leader. congressman, you're not mincing words pup say, i think you'd have to be an idiot to think we could win the house with pelosi at the top. why? >> i was asked what my thoughts were on the 2018 election, and what i think is that as we move forward to that election, when you consider the fact we've suffered losses in 2012, 2014,
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2016, 2018 -- and four special election losses, the fact is that we have to win swing districts, and in those swing districts we have to appeal to independent voters and republican voters who be disenchantsed with trump's policies and leader pelosi had a remarkable career. and a historic, you know, she's a historic figure. not only in the democratic party of this nation, but in those districts with those voters i'm talking about, she just doesn't perform well. and i think it's just a fact. >> you voted to re-elect her as leader back in november. that was just a few months ago. what changed since november? >> well, back then she had competition that arose at the last minute. by the time he came in, i'd already been committed to her, and her competition was tim ryan, who i've gotten to know better. that's all changed now. >> okay. so tim ryan. gets me to my next point. is there someone you'd support to be the next democratic
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leader? >> at the end of the day what has to happen, leader pelosi needs to ask herself, do i help or do i hurt democratic candidates in those very important districts? at the end of the day, when, once that decision is made, the caucus itself will figure out who will take the new leadership position, but if it's somebody like tim ryan, i would certainly support. >> you know, she says she does help. she's raised a heck of a lot of money, she says. she says she's a master legislator. you disagree? >> oh, there's no question she is is a prolific fund-raiser that raised millions and millions of dollars, but what has that money gotten us in the last four election cycles? >> so money's not enough, you're saying, anymore? >> well, i think that -- i'm not saying that whoever comes in will be able to raise as much money as she is, but the money will be raised. but the fact is, when you take a look at the last four election cycles, all of that money has been for naught. >> so congressman, you were part of a closed-door meeting
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yesterday with the people of like minds who want to see nancy pelosi go. what did you decide to do? what specific action did you come up with? >> you can imagine, there was 12 members in that 3450meetings fo minutes and not much got accomplished. we agreed to meet when we come back to washington, d.c. next week. i'd have more 20 say aboto say next week. >> and no specifics. nancy pelosi's been leader since 2003. one of the reasons is, able to fight off any competition. are you afraid of retribution? >> no. i'm not afraid of retribution. my point is simple. as we move forward to the 2018 elections we want to regain the majority, especially in light of the trump presidency. our best best is to win swing districts, and i just think at the end of the day, leader pelosi just doesn't help our candidates in those swing districts with independent voters and republican voters whom i think given the trump
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policies will be able to swing our way. >> she says of you in her critics, how long i stay is not up to them. your reaction to that? >> well, i think there's some truth to that, and that's why i think that this is a question the leader has to ask herself and has to answer that question honestly, but i think that's a fair point. >> all right. democratic congressman from texas, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. a huge diplomatic row involving some of the biggest u.s. allies in the middle east, and it could be getting worse.
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reports the nation was given an ultimatum of ties for arab countries. the nation has ten days to comply with the list of demands including shutting down al jazeera. it got worse this month following accusations including from donald trump that the nation supports terrorism. fred is following these developments for us. what are you learning? >> we have a list of demands that saudis and other countries are making toward qatar and they are hefty demands, john, aside from shutting down al jazeera. they are demanding qatar shut down other television networks as well. also cut most of their ties with the iranians. they share the biggest gas field in the world.
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that is something that is going to be difficult to do. stop meddling in the affairs of gulf countries. they accused the qatari's of shutting down saudi arabia and paying reformation for debts or damages done by qatari's. they have not responded. the list of demands hasn't been made public yet. it's confirmed it exists and each side is accused of saying they are leaking the list. it seems like a list that will make negotiations very, very difficult because the demands are crass. among them is stopping the turkish base. qatar and saudi arabia are allies. they are telling qatar to throw
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them off their soil. this is going to be a difficult one. >> they have been sending mixed messages from the white house and the state department. how is the u.s. likely to get involved? >> reporter: it is difficult. one of the things secretary of state tillerson said is they want demands that are actionable and reasonable. it's unclear how they are going to define these demands that were made so far. we haven't heard from the state department, yet. it seems, as you said before, president trump seems to be supportive of the saudi said. we heard from other u.s. officials they were mystified as to why this crisis hasn't been solved yet. this is a difficult one to solve especially when it seems both sides are in this entrenched and not willing to back down. we have to keep in mind, qatar has the largest u.s. air base in the gulf, which is vital for fighting isis in these crucial
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times. >> frederick, thanks so much. days after a jury cannot reach a verdict on sexual defense charges, bill cosby is going on the road to teach young people about sex assault. i joined the army in july of '98. our 18 year old was in an accident. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. we're the rivera family, and we will be with usaa for life.
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right now, a full week after a mistrial in a sexual offense trial and the second criminal trial looming in the future, bill cosby is planning to host a series of town halls on how to avoid sex assault allegations. this, as conflicting juror
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stories say what happened inside the jury room. jean has more of these details. >> it's interesting, the judge told jurors you can speak to the media, but not give the actual count in the jury room, the break down and that's what we are getting. one spoke to our affiliate and talked about, he didn't believe andrea and didn't understand why she waited a year to come forward. whatever bill cosby did, he paid for and he gave her a pill. he says he gave her a pill. it was tense, there were so many tears, it was a really small room and the breakdown was either 7-5 or 5-7 for and against conviction. listen to what else he had to say. >> it was hopeless. from the first time on, the statute of limitations were running out. >> did that bother you?
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>> yes, it does. i think they created this whole thing. a case that was settled in '05 and we had to bring it up again in '17. >> another juror spoke to abc news saying the break down was 11-2. 10-2, for conviction on two counts, different than what this juror has to say. in other news, bill cosby is announcing town halls around the country, in philadelphia where this happened to educate young people of what false accusations can do to your life in regard to sexual assault. >> i wonder what the victims of sexual assault think of that. jean, thanks so much for that report, appreciate it. the news this morning, stunning behind the scenes look at what some are calling the greatest political crime of the
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century. vladimir putin's involvement in hacking the election. the struggle not only to punish vladimir putin for launching the attack, but problem wanted to protect the united states from anymore harm. one of the "washington post" reporters on the story described it to me a short time ago. >> obama wanted to avoid the worst case scenario, the russians intervened to try to actually affect the voting itself on election day, on or before election day. that was the priority. he didn't want to retaliate before the election for fear it would provoke putin to make things worse. they decided to go after the election. when they started having the debate over what to do, of course you have different institutions, state department, cia, the treasury department, they all wanted to protect their


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