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7:00 eastern, 4:00 in the afternoon out west. we're live in the cnn news room. great to have you with us. don't look at me. look at the guy who was here before me. that's president trump's message tonight in response to the stunning washington post report detailing how and when former president obama learned about russia's campaign to interfere in the election. the president tweeting just a short time ago since the obama administration was told way before the 2016 election that
the russians were meddling, why no action? focus on them, not t. obama administration officials said they choked when it came to acting on russian meddling of the election. why didn't they want to hurt hillary? now, the washington post reports the cia told president obama back in august that moscow was interfering in the election and that vladimir putin had directly ordered the kinder campaign specifically to hurt hillary clinton and to help trump. the public wouldn't learn about russia's role until two months later in october and it wasn't until december that we learned about russia's exact goals. now the timing does raise valid questions about whether president obama did enough to stop russian interference, but it also raises questions about what the current president has done since taking office to keep it from happening again. we want to talk to cnn global affairs analyst kim doeger. kim, you just saw the president even today continuing to defend
his election victory against charges that the russians may have influenced it. does this new washington post report actually support the president's claim that there was no collusion with the russians, that trying to influence elections is just something russia does and doesn't really need collusion from the trump camp? >> well, maybe that explains why he's taken this new takt where he's saying it is all obama's fault, that he didn't try to stop what he knew the russians were doing. but this flies directly against his previous statements where he said he didn't believe that the russians were behind the hacking. at one point he even said maybe it was china. and i've got to say this has left intelligence officials current and former pretty dismayed. i spoke to one senior intelligence official who said he just wished that the president would get beyond this notion that he has to protect his election and, therefore, not
acknowledge that there was any attempts to influence it. however, this new report from the washington post details pretty firmly what other intelligence officials have told me, that, yes, they knew that putin was directly behind this attempt and that the obama administration was grappling trying to figure out just exactly what to do. >> now, in terms of the response what to do, this report has drawn criticism of the obama administration not doing enough to expose the intelligence and then to punish russia. as president trump points out in his tweets. but this current administration hasn't been bold in its response to russia. is there reason for trump's team to hold back? >> that's another area of concern. there was, among the intelligence officials i have spoken to, some worry that this administration, like others before it in the last 20 years, would think that they could get it right this time with moscow and warm relations and perhaps
that's why they were holding fire on any sort of response, even as their intelligence community is telling them, as they told the last administration that russia is trying on all different fronts to undermine the u.s., undermine the u.s. policy. so the concern is that when they get further evidence that this white house won't react to it. their concern is also that this white house won't take some of the punitive measures to push back and that russia, month after month, year after year keeps doing things to sort of poke the united states and doesn't get pushed back and therefore takes that as permission to keep seeing how far it can go. >> what measures are hearing about, if any, to prevent election interference from happening to us again could this administration take? >> anything from offensive cyber measures that were mentioned in the washington post article,
things like programs so that the russians know they are there, know we interfered and it is a signal we only went this far this time but we could do the same kind of things you are doing to us. other measures like stepping up sanctions. the trump administration did renew or tighten sanctions this past week over crimea and ukraine. and in the course of them being applied, loopholes had appears, ways russia was getting around them. so the act was passed to tighten that up. they could go further with sanctions. it is just do they have the political will or is trump still holding out the hope that he could be the guy to turn russia into an ally. >> all right. kim, thank you. now reading the report from the washington post, hearing that an obama official said that the administration choked in responding to the russians, if you were part of the clinton campaign, what are you thinking?
let's ask. former manager of the clinton campaign is here with us tonight. robbie, let's cut to the chase. did president obama fail hillary clinton? >> well, i think a lot of things didn't work right in this last election as it relates to russia. the entire system didn't work. i don't think law enforcement was doing enough. there was a lot of intelligence around that something was wrong. i don't think that intelligence got out to enough people to do something about it, particularly the campaigns. i think everyone agrees the administration should have been more aggressive. and a lot of people have said this. this was really complicated. this was really hard. and i don't think there were any clear choices. but i also don't think it is productive right now to point fingers and say the obama administration didn't get this right. i don't think the media got this right at first. >> did the obama administration get it right? >> i think in retrospect everyone would agree they should have done more. but i don't think it is productive today to point fingers and say they are all to blame for this. we need to be looking forward
now and saying based on where we are, what do we need to do to push back on russia. but russia had to prove a concept here, stealing e-mails and putting them out into the media. other countries can do the same thing now. i don't think we're talking enough about what are we doing to secure these campaigns. >> you are saying it is not just russia that could be the threat here. could be other countries. >> it could be iran or north korea or any of our adversaries. we just learned this information leaked out from the nsa that our election administrators were being phised the same way the campaigns were. >> now, one of the things that the washington post reports is some of the thinking behind the obama administration's inaction is because it could easily be perceived as interfering in the election by taking some kind of
action, by making this information public. the president was out there on the campaign rooting for hillary clinton and saying don't vote for trump. >> yeah. which is why it's absurd to say somehow obama hurt hillary deliberately. >> but was there a lack of transparency and did politics end up dictating the decisions that the obama administration took here? >> i think it may have influenced them. i think the president might have been worried if i step in and push back on russia, it is going to be perceived as a means of helping hillary. i think a lot of people thought hillary was going to win this election. i think james comey would not have handled his investigation of hillary if he thought she would have lost. he was worried when she won that he would have been blamed for her not losing essentially. so i think that happened a lot. that's a really important lesson. but i don't see value in
pointing fingers to say this person is to blame. but i do think it is important and i know mr. mueller is going through a process to investigate this situation to begin with. we need to let all of that play out. >> as far as the time line goes, the obama administration learns in august that not only was russia interfering in the election or trying to through its strategies it was deploying, but that it was ordered by president putin to do so and it was to hurt hillary clinton and to help now president trump. he ultimately won. he was the victor. would the election have happened different, the outcome of the election if this information had been made public before the election? >> look, it could have. and what is a shame right now is there are a number of things in this election, actually, i'd argue where we're saying was this a cause. was this a tipping factor in a close election? it could have been. and that's why, again, we need to go back and make sure these same things never happen again. you made a very important point.
these e-mails were put out there and they were just reported. i think if reporters and the public at large had understood in a creditable way why these e-mails were acquired and they were being used for this purpose, i think everybody would have looked at it differently. so i think that's an important thing moving forward. we have to have a better system for the intelligence community to warn the voters when this information is coming out what's behind it. we're in a situation we've never been in before where foreign powers are actively trying to influence what voters think and they're using means to do it where it's not obvious that it's them, if that makes sense. so i do think the national security apparatus are law enforcement and the news media and social media, frankly, all need to come together somehow to be more resilient when this happens in the future. >> what has surprised you the most about the election meddling, what we have learned in the month it followed, especially through these intelligence hearings that have
been public? what surprises you the most? >> it's a really good question. honestly, it's what surprised me is how what we feared is just becoming true. the weekend of our convention in late july last year, i sat on a set like this at the democratic convention with jake tapper, actually and i said word for word what you said in this program. russia did this. they did it for the purpose of hurting hillary clinton and helping donald trump. >> you knew that then? >> we had very good reason to believe that. and what i said then was this is what the experts are telling us. and to be honest with you, what's scary is almost exactly what the experts were telling us was happening in fact happened. >> and those are the same experts that were telling the obama administration what was going on? >> no, no, no, not at all. we were just learning from the cyber security experts that were dealing with this breach. and i do think, look, we have heard this from the
administration. i do think everybody wishes that this had gotten out there sooner so the voters would have had that opportunity. i know when i said that back in july people were pushing back. they thought it was campaign spin. and i think -- i think people felt that way because it was so incredible, the idea that foreign adversary would be so brazen as to do this. it just didn't seem realistic. it seemed like something you would read about in a novel. and it was true. and i think that's why i'm frankly disappointed on two levels right now, particularly with the congress. one, that this has become so partisan. i talked to republicans. they get it. everybody is vulnerable here. vladimir putin is not a democrat or republican. he's anti-american. >> so why has it become partisan? >> i think the president has been too quick to make it partisan and too defensive. if they have nothing to hide on this russia issue, then they
should just get to work solving this. these election officials are desperate for someone to come in and provide the technology and expertise to help them. why are we deflects on collusion rather than talking about what we're doing for these 50 states that are trying to run elections whose databases are vulnerable today. >> did the dnc reject help from the obama administration when that hacking happened? >> i wasn't there at the dnc, so i don't know. i think -- i think both sides could have done a better job on this. i think when the dnc was first alerted i think some of the staff who heard about that could have run it up the chain sooner. but i also think the fbi should have called debby wasser man schultz. they were just calling an it desk up there. we know campaigns were breached in 2008 and in 2012. the authorities were reaching out directly to the leadership of those campaigns in those
situations. james comey didn't provide that same benefit here. that doesn't make sense to me. so again i think everybody wishes they had done stuff differently. so let's all get together and figure out what to do about it. >> last question from the last tweet we saw from the president today on this issue. he writes obama administration officials said they choked when it came to acting on russian meddling of elections. they didn't want to hurt hillary? >> i think there was concern -- >> he brings her into the equation again. >> well, i think there was concern on the president's part that were he to seem to get out there too far on this and act too quickly that he was acting on a foreign policy matter with the objective of helping a certain candidate. >> is that tweet accurate then? >> i don't know. i mean, you would have to ask the obama administration. but again this to me is one of these -- one of these situations where i don't think it helps to
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the white house have allowed television cameras to film its press briefings for more than 60 years. that's going back to the eisenhower administration when president trump was in elementary school. cnn hired a courtroom sketch artist for friday's press briefing because cameras were once again banned. the trump white house has been cutting back on its briefings only holding four briefings on camera this month.
josh king joins us to discuss this. thanks for being with us. president trump calls the mainstream media fake news. but why would he pass an opportunity to talk directly to the american people on live tv. >> good to be with you. well, as sean spicer, sarah huckabee sanders and other officials have shown over 156 days, often nothing good comes for them of these briefings, that they are in fact better off when they can brief off camera. i think bill hensy's sketch, i saw it. as soon as i saw it appear on social media, i was amazed. i was sort of -- it really should go in the museum as an artifact. a great move by cnn to send their supreme court sketch artist over to the white house briefing room. but there is no congressional
guarantee that a white house press secretary must brief live. as we have seen with holocaust centers with spicer's first briefing that first day and any other problems he's had, the results have not been good. and i think they could legitimately say that they are making themselves available, answering every question every reporter has and not doing it on live tv, which feeds the networks, but it doesn't stop the washington post reporters from breaking the bombshell they did yesterday. magazine reporters can still do their work. >> do you think this is to relieve pressure for them in some way, or is it more a punishment that they're trying to put on reporters? >> i saw some reporting on this, anna, that the white house is trying to screw with most of the television element of the white house press core and use harsher
language than that, screw being the yuf nichl. they're certainly denying you content to be able to put together packages. they make you get creative and send bill over to the white house briefing room. you have had some good fun with that. you are getting some good content out of it. but they are also avoiding mistakes. any time you don't put sara sanders or sean spicer under the lights performing live without the ability to correct themselves, consult notes or worry about stuttering, they have a much easier afternoon of it. >> are the optics good or bad for the white house when they don't put a press secretary in front of the camera? >> well, the optics are bad for the president when he spends most of his life as a home body in the white house, doesn't enjoy traveling overseas, doesn't travel much west of the mississippi and is a pretty inactive president. those are all bad optics.
it doesn't help the white house either when shawn or sara get up and brief, make a mistake and it becomes the centerpiece of a "saturday night live" parody. i don't think they're any worse off at the end of this week with most of their base and most of the viewing audience as a whole, except for those that, you know, think that what happened during the obama, bush and clinton years of live televised briefings should be a sackry sant right of the american people. it's not. they can decide what they want to do. and if you put prior press secretaries to the test, they would have said over and over again that having to go live under the lights puts immense pressure on them and they would have preferred to go more in-depth off camera without it becoming a tv show. >> all right, josh. thank you. and now a look at what you may have missed this week. that deadly london tower fire
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>> reporter: actor johnny depp knew what he was about to say to a crowd in the uk would get a rise out of people. >> when was the last time an actor assassinated the president? i want to clarify. i'm not an actor. i lie for a living. >> reporter: for the record, the answer to his question is april 1865 when john wilks booth killed the president. yes, hollywood has long the ended to lean left, but this kind of extremist talk is new. in january, madonna said this at the women's march in washington. >> yes! i have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house. but i know that this won't change anything. >> reporter: in snoop dog's video he shoots a clown version
of the president with a gun. and kathy griffin was a target of a secret service investigation according to her lawyers. it also cost her a job. cnn called the photos disgusting and offensive and fired her as its new yer's eve cohost. at issue is free speech versus security. threatening the life of the u.s. president is a federal crime that can result in a fine or up to five years in prison or both. a lot of hollywood stars are very public about their liberal politics, but these incidents cross a line. >> really, there hasn't been anybody saying enough is enough. and i think that needs to come from hollywood, from the left wing, from somebody who can say, hey, you know what, i voted for hillary clinton, but let's not insight violence against the president of the united states. i might not support him, but, you know, there is a fine line that we -- you know, that we can't cross over. >> the white house released this statement, quote, president
trump has condemned violence in all forms and it's sad that others like johnny depp have not followed his lead. i hope that some of mr. depp's colleges would speak out about this rhetoric as strongly as they would if it were directed to a democrat. >> johnny depp released a statement saying, quote, i apologize for the bad joke i attempted last night in poor taste about president trump. it did not come out as intended and i intended no malice. i was only trying to amuse, not to warm anyone. it is worth pointing out that it is probably not very likely that depp will be arrested for it, but it is food for thought anyone thinking about speaking in public about warming the president of the united states. >> dive a little deeper into this story. thanks, danny. you wrote an op ed about these
death comments. >> an investigation is totally different than whether or not someone violates federal law, which criminalizes threatening the president. the secret service is going to investigate on a much lesser level of evidence. they have to. they have to resolve all issues in favor of being careful. you know, they have to be careful in these situations. however, the test under the law is an objective one. the test is whether or not a reasonable person would foresee that the audience to whom he was speaking to would perceive it as a threat. now, that's a mouthful. but it doesn't require that the speaker actually intend to carry it out. it doesn't even matter if that person has the ability to carry it out. what matters is whether or not the audience would have perceived it as a threat. >> and in this case, would you have perceived this as a threat. >> probably not. i mean, you look at this. this is just someone's attempt at bad taste. you listen. he used the word bad taste.
it is interesting that he did because i imagine a lawyer got in his ear. those words appear in a supreme court opinion addressing this exact issue and saying that bad taste, high personally, bad jokes are not criminalized under the law. >> i want to talk about bill cosby. >> yes, of course. >> and a jury deadlocked, mistrial declared last week. now it looks like there is going to be another trial. now we're hearing from bill cosby's publicist, the comedian plans to go on a tour of sorts where he's going to travel around and talk about how to behave to avoid sexual assault allegations. now victim's advocacy groups have come out and spoken against this. what are your thoughts on this? >> if victim's advocacy groups are against bill cosby, they should come out in support of this tour and let me tell you why. if you are a fan of the prosecution of bill cosby, this
tour is the greatest news you have heard in a long time because every word he speaks will become a transcript that the prosecution will mine for new evidence to be used against them, even if that's an inconsistent statement. even if the defense seeks to file a motion based on pretrial publicity. the prosecution could argue, some of this you brought upon yourself by taking your show on the road. so if you're an anti-bill cosby person, this tour is fantastic news. if you are bill cosby's defense, i would think after putting up a tremendous fight this idea of him going on tour is a very frustrating one. >> and when we heard about what happened inside the courtroom this last go-around, the jury was deadlocked. some way it was 5-7 on some issues about whether or not he was guilty and other times it had come to 10-2 split. here's what one juror told us. >> it was settled in '05.
the man has lost his career. he's been penalized the last 11 years, whether in jail or not. at age 79, 80, what's the purpose of wasting all this money to put him in jail? >> sounds like his age was a factor they took into account. does that surprise you? >> you never know what juries are going to fix sate on. you prepare this case and you put it in front of the jury and they grab a little piece of information and they hyper focus on it. so, no, i'm not surprised at all. they in this case there are many thing it is jurors could have hung their hats on and now when they're interviewed, as with many jurors, it is a surprise what they found interesting and not interesting. >> thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> and do read danny's column. he has two of them on cnn.com right now. coming up prince harry makes a surprisingly candid statement about his mother's funeral. why he still resents how he was
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he was just 12 years old when traj struck his family. nearly 20 years later, prince harry is opening up about the devastating loss of his mother. how he's keeping princess diana's causes alife and why he thinks the world needs the royal family today. in a revealing new interview, prince harry tells news week, we are involved in the british monarchy. we will carry out our duties tat right time. let me bring in the cnn contributor and author of "elizabeth the again".
>> what do you make of him saying no one wants to be king or queen. >> harry has a tendency to speak before he thinks and he's a rather instinctive character. and quite in contrast to william, who is very caution in what he says. and, of course, harry is fifth in line to the thrown, so he has no remote possibility of even becoming king, but i think it was a classic prince harry statement of which he's made a number in the past and he tries to qualify it by saying that the monarchy was very important for british life and that they needed to preserve the magic and they all needed to work very hard, but the horse was out of the barn. the comment was out of his mouth and it rocketed around the world and got him in a little trouble, i think, because, in fact, william, i spoke at length with william and harry when i was writing the book about prince
charles, and they were very emphatic that william, because he is in line behind his father, is being carefully prepared to take the thrown in late middle age, which is about when is prince charles certainly wants to be king. here's waited longer than anybody in british history. he's the oldest hare to the throne in british history. he's done a lot in his life in the meanwhile, but he does want to be king as does prince william. we obviously can't speak for prince george. ha harry doesn't need to worry. >> it's easy for him tonl brush it off the old shoulder. >> but i think you have to bear in mind that prince harry is one of the most popular members of the royal family, and he has really made a transformation.
he was definitely the family trouble maker over the last ten years. >> he's become popular in part because he says things like he said. i want to ask you about another comment that he made and get your take on this. he said when he was asked about his mother's funeral and the impact it had when his mother died he works wrote my mother had just died and i had to walk a long way behind her coffin surrounded by thousands of people watching while million dollars more did on television. i don't think any child should be asked to do that under any circumstances. i don't think it would happen today. and that day clearly still haunts him. >> i think he's quite right that people are much more cognizant of that and he probably wouldn't be asked to do that today. but to put perspective on it. at the time men were expected to walk behind the casket in a
royal funeral. it was princess ann who walked with the men at the convene mother's funeral. but in 1997, even if you go back to winston churchill's funeral, his 12-year-old grandson marched. so it was tradition for state funerals and royal funerals. prince charles urged his sons to do it in that tradition. and there was another factor that was really quite important, and i heard about this from people in the government and people in the palace. and that was there was a real fear because of the overheated environment in london at the time that prince charles could possibly have been attacked in some capacity as he was walking. so having harry and william with him was sort of important protection in a way for him.
it was up to prince philip who was not supposed to be walking who said to them both i think you will forever regret it if you don't walk. if you're reluctant to walk, i will walk with you. so prince philip walked with them having persuaded them both to walk. >> interesting to hear. we appreciate it. a quick programming note. tomorrow morning ohio governor kasich will be on "state of the union" here on cnn. we'll be right back. remember our special night?
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off the rails and when it does, the anchor desk can be an awkward place to be. jeanne moos takes a look at one painful case in point. >> here's what the news sounds like when the anchor doesn't make a sound. for four minutes. bbc's flag ship news at 10:00 was silent except for banks assignments run amok. during those four long minutes of technically melt down, hue ed cards sat calmly with the occasional facial flinch. after so much bad news lately, tweeted someone else, wasn't it lovely, sort of time out from all the craziness? no matter how many times they play the graphic saying breaking news -- the news remained broken, a show editor blamed it
on a technical system crash seconds before air time. the veteran anchor told radio 4 -- >> there was so much going on in the director's gallery that nobody board to tell me i was actually on air. i sensed that i probably was so i tried to behave myself. >> he played with his mouse and scribbled, prompting everyone to ask, what did you start writing? help? i think he was writing down his order for dinner. >> i was listening to all these pandemonium in the background. >> we know one guy that would appreciate four minutes of silence from a bbc. >> where are you from? >> bbc. >> speaking of beauty, after the meltdown ended, cue the anchor. actually. his only sign of stress was his post-newscast tweet, a trouble do think ale, fold by the
equivalent of cheers. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. here on the "cnn newsroom," i'm kbresh kbreana cabrera in n. how president obama first learned russia was leading a major campaign to sway last year's election. the president tweeting this, since the obama administration was told the russians were medaling, why no action? focus on them, not, the. officials said they choked when it came to russian meddling of election. they didn't want to hurt hillary? how he and his adviser