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equivalent of cheers. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. here on the "cnn newsroom," i'm kbresh kbreana cabrera in n. how president obama first learned russia was leading a major campaign to sway last year's election. the president tweeting this, since the obama administration was
told the russians were medaling, why no action? focus on them, not, the. officials said they choked when it came to russian meddling of election. they didn't want to hurt hillary? how he and his adviser wrestled with various options for
retaliation. michelle has the riveting details. >> reporter: a bombshell report, laying out the u.s. intelligence community's case for russia's meddling in the 2016 election. and revealing it was directly ordered by vladimir putin. "the washington post" detailing that intelligence sources had captured putin's own instructions to disrupt and discredit the presidential race with the goal of defeating or hurting hillary clinton and helping donald trump. the cia delivered the intelligence by courier to president obama in august. the post interviews with officials revealed the frustrations now among some of them that more was not done the punish russia. it's the hardest thing about my time in government to defend. i feel like we sort of choked. they say the administration was
worried about provoking russia. our primary interest in september and october was to prevent them from doing the max they could do. and after the election, some of the hasher options for punishing russia, like a massive cyber attack on them were sweeping sanctions faced concerns and road blocks from a number of corners. deputy national security adviser defended the obama administration. >> maybe the judgment was wrong. maybe we should have done certain things that dwlid. but given everything we were dealing with, the perception that russia's main objectivity was to undermine confidence in fact elections, that was the one thing that motivated us to be careful about how we played this in public. >> the obama administration started with cyber weapons controlled remotely like digital bombs. obama left office while it was still in the planning stage. the white house says trump
stands by his january comment that he thinks russia was involved in the hacking and has no plans to fire the special counsel, robert mueller despite him expressing worry about james comey. >> it's just very bothersome, but he's also -- we're going to have to see. >> in that same interview on fox, trump also addressed why he alluded to having recordings of the conversation with comey when he had non. >> when he found out that there may be tapes out there, whether it's government tapes or anything else and who knows, i think his story may have changed. you'll have to take a look at that because he has to tell what actually took place at the events. >> when cnn pressed -- >> my question for you is what is the white house, president trump now doing to prevent russia from doing this again? >> this report is new and we'll discuss it with him later. >> again and again.
>> what is he doing specifically to try to stop this? >> allison, you like to say the word russia russia to mislead the voters and cnn is aiding and abetting this nonsense as well. >> you're not answering it, kellyanne. >> he's the president of the united states. he's said very clearly that he wants the voter integrity and ballet integrity to be protected. >> so on the investigations after his end of day friday which was supposed to be the deadly, the house intelligence committee was waiting for james comey's memos as well as official word from the white house they can't they don't have recordings of the conversations between trump and comey. easy we see the investigations evolve, the senate educational committee wants information from president obama's former attorney general loretta lynch for his she might have improperly influenced the hillary clinton e-mail
investigation. michelle kosinski, cnn washington. >> president trump cease response to it. former senior advisor to the trump campaign. "the washington post" claims the cia told president obama in august that russia was interfering in the u.s. election and that vladimir putin ordered it to help trump win. if you were running the cia at that time and had given president obama this information, would you have expected him to do more than he did? >> i think so. i think that the best thing to have done would have been to have been able to take action quickly. the more devastating way possible against russia and to say not a word about it. speak softly, carry a big stick. here, don't speak at all and carry a big stick. that's sort of from reagan and casey did when the russians were stealing some highly sensitive
technology back in the '80s. they had the cia make changes in the technology so when the russians stole it and installed it in their natural gas pipelines, after a delay of a period of time it blew up their natural gas pipelines. reagan and casey didn't make any public statement. they didn't say a word. they just acted. i think that's what you want to do. >> it was an election year, do you think politics got in the bay of policy here? >> i don't know. i think the obama administration was really very tangled up with itself trying to figure out what to do. i think in that case like that you have to set aside the fact it's an election year and take action for the country and take action that will hurt russia and do it rather decisively. if you made the right preparations, as quickly as possible. we have two ways in which russia
is coming off the essence of our country. one is they could well have a handle on our electoral machinery because it's only 18 months now to our next national election. any of these voting machines that don't have paper associated that are all just touch screen, those are very dangerous because you can't run a recount. so if we wanted to give putin the right to vote for americans without a recount, then we would really have a challenge to our democracy. >> go ahead. >> i was going to say we also have a real danger and risk from our electric grid. it's not well protected or supported. we don't see any major changes coming through as they work on infrastructure as part of the administration's plans. the electric grid is important
as machinery. if we lose one or both, we've lost a good part of our ability to function as a country. >> you were hired as a policy advisor by the trump campaign. >> not hired. i was a complete volunteer. >> so you volunteered to be an adviser for him. if you were to advise him to do, what would you tell him to do to prevent this from happening again. it's unclear as we showed in the piece before our conversation that it's unclear what action this administration is taking in a preventative. >> i would ask the cia to give me the three biggest dangerous and risk to the country over the course of the next number of months to a few years. i would say two of those three would be the electric grid and the electoral machinery, both of which have gotten badly fouled up. also, to take the steps that are
necessary in order to harden the grid, in order to keep the electoral machinery to be taken over by the russians with hacking and work hard and fast getting those done, and at the same time putting together whatever we would need to in order to damage and undercut whatever the russians are doing with respect to causing risk and damage to us. and if we are smart enough and able enough to pull something together that can be used quickly, then use it and don't say a word. do what reagan and casey did. just damage the other side and smile quietly. >> did candidate trump ever ask you what to do about russia and what is russia doing given your experience as the former director of the cia? >> no. we've never had a conversation about that. >> does it surprise you he hasn't had that same conversation about russia with other members of his current
team, the press secretary of, sean spicer hasn't talked to him. we have learned from other intelligence agencies the president hasn't asked about this issue, asked james comey about what happened with the russia investigation prior to the election? >> i haven't kept track of what the president's spoken with on things. i think that we have the technology and we have the smarts in our national laboratories to take these kinds of steps. we did before and we can again. but it takes the will. someone has to make a solid decision that we are going to protect our electric grid, we are going to keep it from being knocked out, we're going to protect our electoral machinery, we're going to spend the money and we're also going to put
together a way of going after the other sides of machinery as quickly as we can if the need should arise. >> does president trump have the will? >> say again? >> does president trump have the will? >> i don't know. i don't know. i hope very much because for the next 18 months anyway, our national ability to function depends in many ways on his will. >> ambassador, we appreciate your time tonight: >> good to be with you. five republican senators come out against their party's latest health care bill. can mitch mcconnell get these crucial votes and help the president keep a campaign promise? we'll discuss next. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." ] hey, i was using that. what, you think we own stock in the electric company? i will turn this car around right now! there's nobody back there. i was becoming my father. [ clears throat ]
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the republican senate health care bill unveiled two days ago. sanders is talking about how to improve obamacare and he plans to hold similar rallies in ohio and west virginia. president trump is tweeting about your health care tonight in the new senate bill he tweets i cannot imagine these very fine republican senators would allow the american people to suffer a broken obamacare any longer. five republican senators oppose the bill. three more gop senators have concerns right now. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell can only lose three republican votes and still fas bill. let's bring in rick perry and marco rubio. the senate health care draft will if passed represent the greatest policy achievement by republican congress. what do you think mitch mcconnell would sacrifice to get more "yes" votes.
>> if there's one thing we know, it's mick mitch mcconnell is a crafty sob and i'm sure he's got a lot of amendments and proposals in his back pocket to offer these senators in order to get their votes. i'm sure you've talked about this already that the statements from these holdout senators were very, very carefully worded. they never said we're absolutely against this by they said i'm against it now, but with certain changes i could support it in the future. >> is he going to have to appeal to the conservatives or moderates of the senate. >> i think he'll have to appeal to broth. by and large the things that the conservative senators want and the things that the moderate senators want are not mutually exclusive. the moderates are concerned about exactly how the medicaid expansion repeal of obamacare will phase down. the conservative senators are much more concerned about
regulatory reform. you can address those concerns in the same bill. >> let's hear from one of those republican senators you just mentioned, dean heller it's a moderate. he's what he had to say about it. >> if this bill passes, second biggest lie is your premium is going down. there is nothing in this that will lower your premiums. >> kind of hard to hear. he said there's nothing in this legislation that will lower the premiums. what do you say to that? >> that's just not factual correct. maybe he hasn't had time to review the legislation yet but talks legislation contains a robust set of reforms that will lower preemds and dedeductibles. >> how do you see it that way. how do you see the premiums going down? >> because what this bill does is it repeals two of the obamacare regulations that have been most directly responsible
for the premium increases that we've experienced over the last four years. those are what are called age bans which overcharge young people and drive them out of the insurance market and value markets that force healthy people out of the market. by reintroducing incentives to get younger people in the insurance markets, premiums go down because younger and healthier people don't consume as much health care and premiums are driven by the average cost of the participants in the market. the more low cost people are in, the more premiums go down. >> on the flip side, though, if there's no penalty for people not to have health insurance, which according to the senate bill as it stands, there wouldn't be any penalty. why would those younger healthy people even participant if there's no penalty and getting it later when they may need it? how could that drive insurance
peoples down if they're not in the market and the people who need insurance, people with preexisting conditions are in the market and insurers are forced to provide coverage for them? >> everybody in america wants to have health insurance. the problem is not their desire or lack thereof to have health insurance. it's how much it costs. for young and healthy people under obamacare the premiums are way to expensive relevant to what they can afford and what their actual health care consumption s. if you're 27-year-olds and perfectly healthy, why would you want to pay $300 a month in health insurance premiums that you're never going to use? in this bill by reforming those elements -- also by extending tax credits to younger people in a way that gives them nowhere incentive to participate, i think this will have a better mix of healthy, sick, young, and
old. there are a couple tweaks we need to make to get that result, but i think they'll get there. >> senator bernie sanders, by the way, just finished up speaking on his don't take away our health care tour. we showed it to you moments ago. he told the crowd in pittsburgh the senate bill's even worse than the one passed by the house. listen. >> let me be as clear as i can be. this so-called health care bill passed in the house last month is the most anti-working class piece of legislation passed by the house of representatives in the modern history of this country. [ cheers ] and the senate bill in some respects is even worse.
>> is this bill anti-working class? >> you know, i regret to have to say this, but what bernie sanders just said is pure propaganda. as you know, the house bill had a lot of defects in terms of how it treated people in the working class particularly people who were nearing retirement. this bill works very, very hard and is intentlily crafted to address just that problem. this bill is actually much, much stronger in terms of the protections and the financial assistance it directs to people of lower income, the working poor, people in their 50s and 60s. that's one of the reasons i wrote that article that you cited at the beginning of the segment about why this bill would be such a policy achievement. >> thanks as always. >> thanks. we have good news tonight. steve scalise is out of intensive care and is in fair condition. he was shot in the hip last
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on camera to be useful to the public and to be useful for our press core, why? because you'll get the same information. by the way, i find the richest points of the entire press briefings that sean or sarah do is when they're reading what the president is doing and the vice president that particular day. it gets such positivity rather than the q&a. >> it's not about the ability to do our jobs at journalists, it's about you knowing they're doing their jobs. "chicago sun times" washington bureau chief lynn sweet. lynn, how do these restrictions a affect your reporting? >> this is a little contraryian, and i support the promise these things should be on the record with cameras. but having said that for a print
reporter, the need is to get information and facts, not necessarily they have to be shown asking your question. having said that, the matter of the briefing being on television means that all of america can see it in realtime, not just the reporters. that can only be good even if you think there's not a lot of content in the briefing, let people decide that and see that for themselves. >> isn't the bigger problem, lynn, that all the answers that we don't get during these briefings? abc made a list of 26 different questions that sean spicer's been asked where he said i don't know but i'll get back to you and but hasn't gotten back to anybody. a list of more than two dozen the white house isn't addressing, big ones whether the president believes in man-made climate change. >> on that we would have an hour special of press secretaries who
said we'll get back to you, sometimes a polite way -- >> get rid of you. >> if you think and people think you can sustain a career by going to a briefing , that isn't how it works. brian, you know and maybe people don't know that reporters have access to that press area could walk in and talk to press people. they don't need the briefing to ask questions. you get information. the point is you don't get a lot of information. if they've better idea or different format, so be it. your point is the one that's most important. if you're not getting content, it's not better to have a gaggle where you don't learn anything at a press briefing than having one for the sake of being on the
record. >> what's interesting about kellyanne's responses is she seemed to imply the substance changes based on whether it's on camera on not on camera, and i think that's what some of our colleagues have taken issue with. brian, you write this. the white house has only held two oncamera briefings in the past two weeks. inch by inch they have been rolling back press access which means less information for the public. >> these sorts of changes don't happen overnight or in the span of a month. they happen over the span of many months. the access we're seeing now versus one year ago with the obama administration is markedly differe different. not releasing white house visitor logs is another example, not providing spokespeople on television is another example. lots of examples. but all of them add up inch by inch, time after time, to this portray of a white house that's
more closed off than i think the public would like it to be. >> lynn, what is the upside for the white house? what do they gain by adding restrictions and holding fewer briefings and fewer on camera briefings. >> what they gain -- i am interested on brian's take on this. what they gain is it's damage control. they don't have the wild card question. they don't have sean spicer saying something that could be la lamb pond by "saturday nigpoone live" there's no reveal that trump did something nobody knew about. >> cnn carries that parth live on television and on the air as well as the q&a. >> it's a great chance for the white house to get its message out, but increasingly we're
seeing trump and his aides wanting to speak to his voters, the 46% that got him into office. we see him do things that only speak to the base and not to the broader population. i wonder if pulling back on the briefings on camera is another example of that. >> brian, how much of this do you think is about sean spicer's performance? >> whether president trump is happy with spicer or sarah huckabee sanders. president trump, say whatever you want about him, is a great television producer. he watches these briefings with the eye of a television producer. we know the white house has been looking for a replacement for spicer. doesn't seem like anybody wants the job right now. it's taken a while in this recruiting process and it's not clear if there's a person in line to become the new press secretary. >> republicans pointed to
trump's twitter use and say the president is communicating directly with the public there. here's what a republican former crew spokeswoman alice stewart had to say. >> i do feel strongly when the president tweets something, that is an official statement. can't be something he casts off as something he said on social media. when a reporter asks about a tweet, it's a responsibility for them to be able to libelaborate that and not say the tweet speaks for itself. >> do you agree with that? >> i said these tweets are very important official insights into what the president is thinking, most often early in the day. i would have loved to have known what president obama, clinton, and bush were thinking when they got up and sent out a note and everybody could read. this is important. it sets the agenda of the day far measure anything else because it's the president himself who's speaking.
by the white house saying these speak for themselves, obviously there's more to be said. even if he wanted to tweet on a policy issue, certainly the white house knows 140 characters isn't the end of the story. sometimes it's just the beginning. for them to continually deny that seems to be denying the reality of how people want and get information. even if they are playing to their base. >> in fact, it was his lawyer last week who spoke to twitter, was limited because you can only use 140 characters. so there was a little bit of lost in translation where he couldn't put the complete information in there. brian stelter, lynn sweet, thank you both. mitt romney and donald trump have taken plenty of shots at each other, but that didn't keep the president from hiring another romney far top post. and she's working the change the image of women in the republican party.
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. as chair of the michigan gop, ronda romney helped donald trump turn the state red, for the most part in 30 years. she's the second woman to chair the rnc. the latest bad ass women much washington? dana bash sit down with her to talk about her famous political family and how she's working to attract more women to the gop. >> what do these pictures have in common? >> i don't know. there is a familiar theme here. i'm very happy to add a feminine touch to this wall.
>> the republican national committee has a new face with a new name, ronda romney. >> my mom ran for senate and my dad had run for attorney general. and i thought i've got to go get into party politics so i can figure out how to win and get my family members across the finish line. unfortunately we didn't have any romneys on the ballot. >> romney mcdaniel did more than just help donald trump get across the finish line. she delivered the state to republicans for the first time in 30 years. >> i went to his very first rally after he announced his candidacy, and there were 3,000 people there. i've never seen that for a candidate during a primary and obviously my uncle ran for president. >> that you think was mitt romney, the last republican nominee for president who lost michigan to barack obama in 2012
by nearly ten points. >> you're uncle, mitt romney, was quite outspoken about his criticism of donald trump. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> it was a difference of opinion but it didn't affect my relationship with uncle mitt. >> this is my grandmother george romney. he was governor of michigan. >> you were a woman whose mother ran for office. >> yes. and my grandmother ran for senate too. so for a period of time, my grandmother will he nor romney and my mother, were the only two women in the republican party to ever secure the nomination for senate. they were leaders, they were pooir pioneers in our party. >> did you always know that you wanted to go into politics. >> no, i didn't. because i'd seen the negative
side of it at a young age. i was 19 when my mom ran for senate, and it was a pretty tough race. you walk away and you think i don't know if i want to be part of that world. part of reason i got involved is i saw a teacher get laid off in our school and we were in a budget crisis in our state and i thought this is . >> so that was your ah-ha moment? >> that was my ah-ha moment. >> we did it! >> you're the first woman to run this joint in a long time. >> in a long time. in a generation. >> so what do you think it means that you, a woman, is running the rnc? >> i think is signals that the republican party is a party for women. for a long time we've been put to the side as if we're single-issue voters or we just a special interest group. certainly in the republican party, we need to do a better job reaching out to women.
>> one hard reality of stepping into the role of rnc chair is the constant travel and time away from home. for romney mcdaniel that means figuring out how to work around the country. you made the decision to stay in michigan. it's tough. >> it is tough. my but husband realizes this is an opportunity to support our president. for any working woman, it's not unique to me, balance is tough. it's hard to balance giving everything you need to your kids and we're always juggling. we have two full-time jobs. >> when i met her family, they seem to be thriving. >> you look very good today. >> why thank you.
and you look very handsome, sir. >> you do homework? >> we do homework. i'm reading books right along with him. >> how cool is it that your mom is chairman of the republican national committee? >> it's really cool. you get to do fun stuff that i've never done before. >> we're thrilled for the opportunity she has. she really is a role model for not just our kids but for others. >> i'm just trying to be cool to them. i'm still not cool yet. >> she's cool. >> my whole life is trying to get these guys to think i'm cool. >> what's your message for women who probably want to get into politics? >> if you're a mom with young kids, you're probably not going to feel like that's the right time to run for office, but i think they have a really valuable voice to add to the
discussion. >> well, you might say he beat a life sentence. just ahead, how this monster is free once again and you won't believe how old he is now. first, though, the painful decline of america's coal mining towns. kamal belle goes to the coal mining regions to see if anything can save these communities. >> we went from 18 mines to 3. we went to 1,500 employees to 150 people working. >> we are in a down in the control mining industry. with the loss of those jobs, it's really devastating families and communities. >> we scrape to get by. i just want a good job, that's it. >> no jobs leads to no monday, which leads to depression, which leads to drugs. >> how easy is to to find drugs
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he just could not give up a life of crime, but now at 100 years old, mobster sonny fr franzise is a free man. the headline says it all "stone-old killer free." 2010 at the age of 93 and in a wheelchair he was convicted on extortion charges. sonny's son tweeted "it's official, dad has been released, 100 years old, a free man, praise god. he was first con vvicted in 196 and reach time released on