tv Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown CNN June 24, 2017 8:00pm-9:01pm PDT
there was, i believe, something called soju involved. there were many, many strange and delightful things to eat. things might have spun slightly out of control. ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha, la, la, la, la ♪ sha, la, la, la, la, la, ♪ sha, la, la, la, la ♪ sha, la, la, la, la, la, la
>> nari: the biggest difference between korean fried chicken and american -- >> anthony: chicken tonight? i feel so clean. i've never felt so -- >> man: where is my ticket? [ laughter ] >> anthony: next i'll be performing a medley from -- flavor town -- [ laughter ] >> anthony: don't play this game with -- yeah, who is everybody here? >> man: mr. noh. >> anthony: oh yeah baby, that's good. >> man: yeah baby. >> anthony: come to me. come to me. >> anthony: powerful in a sort of small, girly way. >> anthony: is this drinks that goes with food, or is this food that goes with -- a triumphant return to korea. [ laughter ] >> nari: woof! >> anthony: oh yeah. it should surprise no one that i'm in a happy place right now. maybe the best way to tell this like aog returning to its own vomit, i keep flashi back to -- was it last night? the night before? i smell fried chicken on my clothes, so perhaps.
hello nari. >> nari: we meet again. >> anthony: am i glowing with health and pink? >> nari: yes. >> anthony: freshly scrubbed. >> nari: well, i was just going to say that you look like a better version of yourself. >> anthony: oh i -- >> nari: why is that? >> anthony: because i've lost about eight pounds of dead skin. >> nari: we're really into the idea, koreans really like the idea of being the optimal cleanliness, you know? like, we like to be the most clean possible. >> anthony: i don't know. you know -- >> nari: no. >> anthony: i'm okay with soap and water, frankly. and, and beer. >> nari: yes of course. all right let me see if i can properly pour this for you. yeah, there you go. >> anthony: thank you. >> nari: so. do you know about this? >> anthony: no. >> nari: well, so koreans have many eating traditions. if you have a very big production or you have a very big event that's very, you know, very important. you celebrate that in a proper way and i think -- >> anthony: what are we celebrating? >> nari: celebrating the end of, you know, this korea show. and i think, and the last korea show too. >> anthony: oh, i thought you said something important, nari. [ laughter ] >> nari: this is important. this is the most important thing you've ever done. >> anthony: okay.
there's nothing involving salt that i have to -- i don't have rub that into my skin. my now raw pink skin. ah, i'm a broken man. >> anthony: i seem, beneath the shame and the headache, to be missing a few layers of skin. as if i've been rubb, somehow, raw. i mean i believe in clean, really, but this. this is beyond clean. this is sanded, stripped, flayed. >> nari: here's to korea. >> anthony: the beer is not helping. no, maybe it is. soju, i think i've had enough. the gleeful embrace of mixing whiskey. rice wine. beer. and oysters, for instance. i mean, it seems to tempt the fates. ooh. >> nari: ooh. >> anthony: yes.
>> nari: well, let me ask you one more question. what do you think about han now after your trip? >> anthony: i'm brimming with han. i mean, not -- i mean, i could never actually have han because i'm not that korean and this is, you know, a genetic, almost cellular thing. i understand, but i -- it's something i feel that i can really relate to. i'm definitely a, you know, revenge is a dish best served cold, sort of guy, but also hot. i'll take revenge anytime i can get it, actually. i need some more chicken. >> nari: you ate a lot of that chicken. you didn't eat all day did you? >> anthony: no. i did not love myself this morning. >> nari: but you felt better after your scrub down. >> anthony: uh, it was like, "ow, evil, ow, ow. go away, evil, punish the evil." >> nari: yes, exactly. exactly. yeah. i mean that's why it's -- ♪
>> anthony: oh show me the way to the next whiskey bar. i feel like a boy band. >> mister huh: is it the king? >> anthony: johnny cash. >> mister huh: johnny cash. >> anthony: yeah. >> anthony: all i can say is, thank god there was no karaoke. i must have blocked it out. all roads led here. i knew that. no escape. only embrace. i am now, after an evening of full-on cultural immersion, acutely aware of my role as big brother. my new salary men friends looking to me to set an example. >> anthony: all right guys, let's party.
>> mister huh: pour on your head. >> server: i'll give it, soju. >> anthony: soju? >> man: nice to meet you. >> anthony: so, correct me if i'm wrong here. it's dried squid, m&ms and mixing your alcohols? >> daniel: yeah. >> anthony: it seemed like a good idea back at the office. yeah? ah! >> mister huh: okay! >> anthony: next i'll be performing a medley from mamma mia. come on baby, light my fire. >> mister huh: light my fire. >> anthony: fire, fire. yes. >> daniel: oh, we got a low score, we only got forty-five. >> anthony: mouse fish? >> mister huh: i love you more than i can say.
>> anthony: until dawn. you don't stop. >> man: yeah. >> mister noh: tony! >> mister huh: tony, sit down. sit down. >> daniel: we got to go somewhere else. we got to go somewhere else. we're not finished here, tony. >> anthony: squid drinks and m&ms? sure. makes perfect see. inact, there were oysters somewhere along the route. a detail that becomes increasingly worrying with our alcohol intake. >> anthony: oh, oysters. awesome. nice. competitive drinking and shellfish. >> daniel: you ever play any korean drinking games? >> anthony: uh, no. >> daniel: no? well they have a lot of them. it keeps the energy up and keeps everyone kind of, drinking. >> anthony: oh. >> anthony: stop two: gol mok gil. >> daniel: all right. we're going to play a little game first. tony, we're going to let you do
the -- start the festivities. just got to use a chopstick. hit everything forward, it's going to splash up. >> anthony: what? a strike or a push? >> daniel: a push. >> all: woo! >> daniel: geonbae! >> anthony: geonbae. >> daniel: woo! >> anthony: sinister. >> daniel: they have, there's a lot of games. we're not going to go through them all because it'd take forever and we'd be really, really drunk. but, uh, this game is called the bottle cap game and we're going to pass this around in a circle. you're going to flick it as hard as you can. >> anthony: right. >> daniel: right? >> mister noh: ah! >> all: oh! >> all: hey! >> daniel: no one wins or loses, we all get drunk. start! >> mister park: one. >> mister huh: two. >> daniel: three. aw. >> anthony: that is bro-tastic.
>> daniel: this is the chopstick game. >> all: oh! [ laughter ] >> anthony: don't play this game with engineers. >> all: ugh. oh! >> anthony: aw, don't hurt the man. he's been hitting those oysters hard. [ laughter ] >> anthony: see you in flavor town. >> daniel: ooh! >> all: oh! >> mister huh: drink, drink, drink, drink. >> daniel: one, two and three. this is pretty good. >> anthony: no, that's good. >> daniel: we got to go somewhere else. >> anthony: yeah we're going. let's hit the street guys. >> anthony: well past soju bottle number nine. the idea that only an hour earlier we sat like gentlemen and had barbecue. a rapidly fading memory.
>> daniel: tony, how many bottles can you drink? >> anthony: we'll see. >> all: whoa! >> anthony: yes, i remember now. somewhere near the start of the evening. the moment little brother grabbed the reigns of our soon to be careening chariot. unfettered by earthly conventions like so-called good sense. or inevitable reality of work tomorrow. >> daniel: all right. eat the egg, eat the egg before it gets cooked too much. >> anthony: oh that's good. >> daniel: it's good? you like the marinade more, right? >> anthony: yeah, yeah, yeah. this being korea, beer is a must. as is, apparently, soju. i had forgotten that part. >> anthony: i'm curious though. i mean, what seems to define korea, as i know it, is it anticipates the future very, very well. this is a country that is famous
for looking forward. looking into the future. where does one go to see korea's past? and are these guys sentimental about it at all? >> daniel: let me pour you more alcohol. >> anthony: older brother, yes. right? yeah. >> anthony: younger, younger brother. >> mister huh: younger brother. >> anthony: all right, younger brother. >> anthony: my mission, for purposes of television, is to ingratiate myself with a group of total strangers.
insinuate myself into their lives. observe, what they call, and please excuse my painful pronunciation, hwe-shik. it's an expression combining the concepts of company and meal. in korean business culture, this would be a regular thing. a one-night corporate retreat, if you will. which is how i ended up at my appointment with the fates. a barbecue joint popular with the salary man. >> anthony: yeah, who is everybody here? >> daniel: noh, mister noh. >> daniel: mister huh. >> anthony: huh. >> anthony: tony. >> daniel: tony. >> anthony: i think they like me. >> daniel: do you drink soju? >> anthony: i do. >> daniel: okay, excellent. >> anthony: soju. everyone's got to listen to mom.
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>> anthony: this is anthony bourdain, cnn. good night and eat more spam. >> choi: goodbye. >> anthony: notice the totally blissed out, happy look on my face. >> choi: one, two, three. >> anthony: observe the bowl, with nothing left but fiery remnants. behold! the magnificence that is budae jjigae. >> anthony: oh, okay, that's enough, enough. good. >> anthony: whoa, jeez. >> anthony: oh man. >> anthony: aw, it's going to go straight to my hips. >> choi: no house, no house. finish, finish. >> anthony: yeah. >> choi: yes? >> anthony: uh, yes. >> choi: okay, thank you.
>> anthony: this is a magical dish. >> choi: wow. >> anthony: so, most people are not sentimental about their time in the military, why do this? >> anthony: i mean military service -- everybody serves in the military, right? >> translator: yeah, it's mandatory in korea. >> anthony: all right, well. >> choi: happy? >> anthony: very happy. >> choi: wow, good. >> translator: you want the recipe about this? >> anthony: i got the recipe now. >> anthony: it's everything mama warned you about. and it's got it all, baby.
and when the music's over, your life will have changed forever. >> choi: one, two, three. >> anthony: okay. >> anthony: oh easy, okay. >> choi: okay. kimchi, tony, you go frank, meat. >> anthony: oh, yes! >> choi: both, okay? >> anthony: yeah! >> choi: okay, okay, okay. >> anthony: dating back to famine years of the korean war, scrounging and scavenging from american military bases, it's, in fact, a classic example of necessity being the mother of deliciousness. hot dogs, canned baked beans, spam, instant noodles. put together with the ever-present gochujang and kimchi. it became an enduring and deeply loved classic. >> choi: baked beans. >> anthony: like i used to say to my first girlfriend, "how could something so wrong be so
right?" >> anthony: all right. we did that right. >> choi: okay. >> choi: oh no, no, no, no, no. wow! no. ' >> anthony: i'll tell you -- >> anthony: sorry about that. >> choi: wow. >> anthony: sorry, man. >> anthony: regrettable incident. >> anthony: looks healthy. it just, i mean, look at this thing. look at the color, alone. it's just -- >> anthony: oh, in go the -- in go the noodles.
>> choi: wow. >> anthony: oh yeah, baby. that's good, come to me, come to me. come to me, my love. >> choi: yeah baby. let's go, yes, good, yes. >> anthony: need little spam in there. good job, chef. >> choi: good job. >> anthony: thank you, sir. >> choi: yes, yes. yes! thank you. >> anthony: my pleasure, any time. >> choi: any time. >> anthony: in a society reeling from conflict and depravation, largely without meat or fresh ingredients, this was the gift of the g.i. >> anthony: the korean war lasted from 1950 to 1953, but in many ways it never ended.
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>> anthony: it's a slaughter fest. i've gotten the poor thing killed like twelve times already today. so, i think i'm going to hang it up. all right, i'm ready for some food. >> psymon: in korea, it's like the food delivery system is really good. >> anthony: really good. >> psymon: a whole bunch of food, you can just order. dr. pepper, gatorade -- >> anthony: you order food while you're -- >> psymon: yeah! >> anthony: while you're playing. >> psymon: yeah. >> anthony: pc bang sounds like a male porn star. i know. but this one has a smoking lounge and a well-stocked snack bar. energy drinks seem a popular order. but here in seoul, given that there's an entire strata of professional gamers, more substantial food is, from time to time, required. no problem. anything you want, right to your console. >> anthony: i mean, i'm sure this is an obvious question, but, like, real life, does it have any, uh, attraction? >> psymon: real life?
>> anthony: real life. you know? like non -- non-gaming universe? >> pmon: people love it. as a pfession, gamers, yeah. people love the professional gaming. they get aot of fame for that. >> anthony: right. >> anthony: ah thank you. oh man. >> psymon: wow. >> anthony: oh man, this is too much. whoa. that bottom half. >> psymon: you got to get the sauce with the noodle, so. >> anthony: yep. >> psymon: it's a black noodle, so it should be all black. >> anthony: mm, tasty. that'll work. >> psymon: and some of the games you could play without like -- still eating. >> anthony: yeah. really, one handed? >> psymon: basically, you eat a little bit. >> anthony: and then go back. >> psymon: you play the game -- >> anthony: yeah. >> psymon: and eat a little bit and play the game. >> anthony: only game that i've ever really gotten serious about and lived with for a year. i mean, i spent a lot of time with it, was, uh, gta vice city. >> psymon: oh. for my opinion, it's a little bit violent for me. that's my personal opinion. >> anthony: look, i mean. you know, little red riding hood was doing a lot of bleeding out
in this game, i mean. >> psymon: that's true. >> anthony: over the mountain and through the woods, to grandmother's house we go. blowing some shit up on the way. and was it right shift, left mouse click? or the other way around? >> psymon: that's our enemy. >> anthony: wow, okay. and i'm looking for the little guys with the red over them? >> psymon: yeah. >> anthony: that doesn't look good. >> psymon: yeah, you got killed too, because they used the little -- >> anthony: aw jeez. oh i'm respawning, though. >> psymon: yeah, respawning. you could target, you could basically go, like, long distance or short distance depending on like where your target is. >> anthony: i'm just learning how to move here. aw, poor little red riding hood. she's not good.
>> anthony: all right. and if i'm shooting something it's, uh, e. aw, no, little red riding hood, you're bleeding out again. oops, didn't make it. i don't see any bad guys. are these friends? oops. >> anthony: back in the old days, before time itself. spending seventeen hours a day at places like this was frowned upon by family. now, gaming has become a respected, and often lucrative, profession in korea. psymon is pretty much retired from gaming, per say. instead he makes a living advising rising stars in the
industry. >> anthony: you do this for a living. >> psymon: yeah! >> anthony: how many hours a day? >> psymon: for the professional gamers, they spend all day playing this game. they wake up, they play a game, practice. have lunch, practice again. and have dinner, and go to sleep. >> anthony: today the game is one of those multiplayer kill-fests where mighty avatars boast a wide range of powerful abilities. raining death on each other from remote consoles across the globe. or just over there. >> anthony: there we go. it's all about love. >> psymon: really cute, little girl. >> anthony: oh that's me? aw, change it. do i get to choose another avatar maybe? something more kill-y? i don't -- i don't know that i'm going to strike fear into my enemies. >> psymon: oh yeah. it's very powerful, yeah. >> anthony: powerful in a, sort of small, girly way. >> psymon: it's a very amazing way, you know, they shock. i mean, the little girl comes around. like, having a big fireball on your hand. >> anthony: right. okay well i'll try to, uh, i'll try to keep up with you for a
few minutes. >> psymon: so basically, you press w. go forward. >> anthony: forward. >> psymon: and then press, uh, right and left click together. and then the right key on the mouse. >> anthony: okay, forward is w? >> psymon: uh huh. >> anthony: and uh -- >> psymon: then these are the skills, e, shift and left together. >> anthony: left shift. >> psymon: shift. and then left, no, together. yeah. and then space, right click, uh, left shift with a left click together. >> anthony: right. oh, brutal. how long did it take you to, uh, even figure out how to move around in this world? >> psymon: uh, about ten minutes. >> anthony: ten minutes, yeah. okay. me and psymon are going up against these kids and i'm expecting to, like, pistol whip some bitches like tommy vercetti. unless time has, once again, passed me by. the life of a professional video gamer is a concept that's not
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[ laughter ] >> anthony: i would've -- fired your ass. >> marc: no, don't say anything about wayne newton. he's the man. >> anthony: hip-hop, like early 90s west coast. >> marc: well, i'm an east coast guy. >> anthony: i know! i'm not entirely convinced that korean food's healthy. >> marc: have you always been like, like a food guy? >> anthony: i think in some ways i've appropriated the han. i'm very happy here. >> marc: last one? >> anthony: yeah. is this drinks that goes with food, or is this food that goes with drinks? >> marc: the culture here is you have to have something that goes well with that drink. >> anthony: we should probably be drinking that, right? >> marc: yes! have you tried soju before? >> anthony: oh yeah. how often can you come to a place like this, acceptably, per week?
i mean, you come every day? after work? >> marc: if you want. >> anthony: yeah, like if i just slumped to the ground and go to sleep, would that be okay? >> marc: it wouldn't be, but i've seen it too many times. [ laughter ] >> anthony: what's good to eat here? >> marc: well, i'd like to recommend the soup of death. it's a soup, but the main ingredient in that is silkworms. >> anthony: okay. >> marc: okay? you down with that? >> anthony: yeah, sure! yeah, yeah, yeah. >> anthony: oh. >> marc: nice, huh? >> anthony: oh yeah. >> anthony: eating bugs? that is so last network. [ laughter ] >> marc: how do you like the soup? >> anthony: soup's awesome. >> marc: yeah? >> anthony: i'm going to go home and have many sons tonight? >> marc: nah. >> anthony: no? >> marc: in the old days they didn't have the soup. they just literally boiled it. they put it in these, like, little paper cups, and just eat it like an hors d'oeuvres. >> anthony: i'm looking at them and i'm thinking. "get the -- out of my soup and make me a sweater." >> marc: even koreans really don't eat this all the time. but i guess this country makes you feel like -- "if you can't eat this, then you're not korean!" kind of thing.
>> anthony: where were you born? >> marc: i was born in new york. >> anthony: you were born in new york? >> marc: yes. >> anthony: and were there 'til -- >> marc: 'til roughly twenty-one. i grew up on the streets, grew up in new york city. it was automatically, "you're a chink." wait a minute -- chink is, isn't that supposed to be chinese? i'm korean. and that's where the whole number one korean comes from. hey, i'm korean and i'm proud to be korean. >> anthony: marc is what's called "gyopo." meaning "korean who's lived abroad." as things get better and brighter over here, more and more people are, like marc, moving back home for the ever more numerous opportunities. >> marc: when i came here, it just felt right for me. i was like, "i'm here! these are my people!" it's like, "this is what i've been missing!" but i was considered not really korean, i guess, you know? i was considered an outsider in my own country. i had, like, this thing going on because it was like, "okay, am i not korean enough if i don't do this? or if i don't drink this? or if i don't eat this?" but there's a certain sense of, "well i want to learn this."
if that makes me feel more korean. >> anthony: nice. best part's skin. is this so hard? walk in and eat delicious food and get hammered in the street? being korean is pretty awesome! >> marc: last one? >> anthony: yeah. >> anthony: nighttime in seoul. and everywhere you go, it seems, food and drink. this is what they call a pojangmacha. i guess it's kind of like a pub, if pubs could operate in the street. you could have drinks. and, well, i guess you could call it, pub food. >> marc: dj shine. we're about to go eat something really, really good. welcome to seoul! let's do this. >> anthony: my new friend marc helped popularize western style hip-hop in korea. an event that led directly to me
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>> nari: oh no, no, no, no, no. >> anthony: oh yeah, yeah, right. >> nari: i know, the formality of it all. >> anthony: and appetizers? yes, i remember these guys. >> anthony: oh, our old friend. again. >> nari: this looks familiar. >> anthony: it's bringing back memories. oh here we go. >> nari: so this is called maeuntang, which literally translates to spicy stew. >> anthony: i need it to burn. >> nari: and it has everything under the sun, seafood-wise. you can find crab. you can find all different kinds of fish. >> anthony: fishermen stews all over the world. >> nari: exactly. this bowl, for me, that's the perfect example of koreans in general. we love being together in a space huddled around a bubbling pot of something. >> anthony: what can i tell you? oh, this is good. you are failing in your duties as a younger sister. >> nari: i'm sorry, i'm sorry. gunbae? >> anthony: well you don't have to drink it immediately do you?
face plant in that thing. >> nari: koreans, they just want each other to drink as much as possible. peer pressure drinking. >> anthony: right. >> nari: it's kind of a big deal. may i, uh, have another glass please? >> anthony: korean drinking etiquette 101, you never pour your own drink. younger pours for the older and you never drink alone. >> anthony: how come all the korean guys are so tormented? they're all carrying around some unseen weight. >> nari: every single korean person is born with this thing called han. which is a deep sorrow and anger. it has nothing to do with upbringing. >> anthony: right. >> nari: i mean literally as your born -- >> anthony: it's genetic. >> nari: yeah, it's genetic. it's in our blood. >> anthony: han, my favorite korean word. it has many implied and specific meanings but, generally speaking, it's a mixture of endurance, yearning, sorrow, regret, bitterness, spite,
hatred, and a grim determination to bide your time until revenge can at last be exacted. >> nari: i know, i know. revenge is a very, very sweet tasting thing for koreans, you know? because there's been so much wrong -- >> anthony: right. >> nari: that's happened to us. >> anthony: what about little timmy mcmasters who made fun of you in second grade for bringing kimchi to school. and he, see, he laughed at you and said it smelt like garbage. is there vengeance coming their way? >> nari: my greatest vengeance would be that those peoplehink about that time that they made fun of me. i want them to actually love korean food now. >> anthony: that doesn't sound anywhere close to endless suffering. >> nari: well that's my personal story. >> anthony: i was thinking more along the lines of, like, electric nipple clamps and then i drive over them. and not killing them by the way. they slowly bled to death from femoral artery wounds. >> nari: the reason that koreans are able to just not wallow in that, is because of this other emotion called jeong.
it is a deep fondness that you have for your other koreans. and people always focus on han and i'm like -- "yeah i know, han, yes, yes, yeah it exists." it exists, no one's denying that. we all have it, but jeong. no one talks about that, and it's equally strong. >> anthony: okay. i believe you. >> nari: i don't think you believe me about this jeong thing. >> anthony: no i believe you. like, i like the whole idea of han. i totally get that as an engine. i like that, i like that dark side. the fact that this word exists is sort of awesome because a negative emotion had been the fact that this word exists
is sort of awesome because a negative emotion had been converted into a number of very, very, very positive developments. >> nari: absolutely. and koreans are, you know, this amazing group of people that don't curse and eat amazing food and we like to drink and have fun. >> anthony: oh, stop sucking up. so, to the han. >> nari: we need to make a serious dent in this. >> anthony: dong jib. >> nari: you can't say that -- we're unique and we're amazing. >> anthony: that describes me. i'm not drinking this. >> nari: no, you don't have to drink it. [ laughter ] >> anthony: my relentlessly cheerful friend and colleague, nari. she loves korea and all things korean. and wants nothing more than to make everybody love it as much as she does. that's why she brought me here, to the garak fish market. where you find the kind of casual joints i love. i will have, let me see, perhaps, the fish. >> anthony: i want, uh, some banchan. i want some spicy stuff. well, i'll start off by drinking some soju i think. >> nari: yes. >> anthony: i'm getting this, like, weird sense of déjà vu. like, haven't we been at a fish market in seoul at some point in some previous life? >> nari: walk down memory lane. s to cover the eastern seaboard.
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drop in in the middle, it makes no sense at all. ♪ ♪ >> anthony: korean culture, as far as i can tell, is defined by the drive to succeed. a churning engine fueled by decades of han. a remarkable ability and remarkable willingness to anticipate the future. it reaches back across time. binding millennials and generations long since passed. last time i was here, i was working for some other network. the bacon channel, the competitive eating channel? what was, what was that old show called? it was so long ago. back then i was dragged around in nari kye's, tiny but powerful wake, as i recall. that was nearly a decade ago. things have changed since then. i've changed.
i'm guessing nari's changed. and korea? korea has certainly changed. the korean war ended more than half a century ago. but in some ways, it's still going. the north and south having been on perpetual war footing ever since. it's a psychological and physical scar. korea is literally split in half. but that's not what this show is about. >> anthony: there aren't many comparisons to south korea's stratospheric rise over the last decade. one of the poorest countries as recently as the sixties, today it claims one of the world's fastest growing economies. the government has been extremely shrewd and forward thinking about selling the world all things korean. underwriting, encouraging, financing and supporting the export of intangibles. things like music, movies, tv shows, food, the whole korean sensibility.
and the world is resnding. learning to love what koreans have always loved. the heart of korea is seoul. capital city. a bustling metropolis. futuristic in look and character. population -- twenty-five million. >> anthony: look at them; they've got a selfie stick. everybody's taking pictures of their food. i feel right at home. >> anthony: in october 2014, i went back to korea. this is what i saw. >> anthony: this makes me so happy. good kimchi. make room for the noodles. oh, that's good. it should surprise no one that i'm in a happy place right now. oh yeah. first night back. right to the market, bunch of unrecognizable, but invariably and inevitably delicious, food. good to be back, man. good to be back.