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happening now, breaking news. knowing the score, a new nonpartisan estimate reveals the senate gop health care bill would increase the number of uninsured americans by 22 million. tonight we're learning more about the price tag, the impact on premiums, and the politics of trying to get the bill passed. claiming victory. after months of legal set backs for his travel ban, president trump celebrates a partial win with the u.s. supreme court allowing parts of his executive order to take effect. what does this mean going forward with a final verdict still looming? blaming obama, president trump now seems willing to admit russia meddled in the u.s. presidential election if he can use it as a weapon against his predecessor. we'll look at the confounding claims in the president's newest twitter rant. and stay out of politics. ivanka trump portrays herself as above the political fray, an odd argument for the senior of the
president of the united states? we want to welcome our viewers across the united states and the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, a senate republican leader struggle to win support for the new health care bill, a partisan effort is now out how the legislation would help or hurt americans. the congressional budget office says 22 million more americans would be uninsured by 2026, compared to the number covered under obamacare. democrats are pouncing on that while many republicans are embracing another number. the cbo says the gop bill would reduce the federal deficit by $321 billion over the next decade. also this hour, the u.s. supreme court allows parts of the president's travel ban to go into effect, at least
temporarily. it's a partial victory for the president after multiple lower court rulings blocking the ban a center piece of his agenda. the high court agreed to hear oral arguments of the president's executive order coming up this fall. in the meantime, the justices are allowing the travel ban on citizens from muslim majority nations to go into effect with some important exclusions. those who have a, quote, bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the united states still will be allowed to travel to and from this country. the president's supreme court pick justice neil gorsuch, by the way, joined conservatives clarence thomas and samuel alito in saying they would have gone further and allow all of the travel ban to take effect immediately. this hour i'll discuss these breaking stories with senator richard blumenthal. he's a democrat on the senate judiciary committee and correspondents and specialists are also standing by. first our congressional
affiliate phil mattingly with a breakdown of the senate republican health care bill. phil, we now have the cbo score. tell our viewers what it suggests. >> reporter: an all important number or numbers, wolf, especially for those republican senators who have been either sitting on a fence or saying they weren't yet ready to support this bill. on the top line, according to the cbo, 22 million fewer americans have insurance over the course of a ten-year period. that obviously is not a good top line number, something republicans that i'm talking to say is higher than expected. here's why. there are changes in the senate bill compared to the house bill particularly on the tax credit side, the slower phase out, the more gradual phase out of the medicaid expansion they thought would boost the coverage number from the house bill which was at 23 million. so, not a huge change there. you also have to look at the reduction spending. there are dramatic reforms to the medicaid program. the types of reforms conservatives have been pushing for for a long time that would cap the federal funding based on enrollees. that would lead to $772 billion less spending for that program over the course of a ten-year
period. that is something democrats are also seizing on, very protective of the medicaid program. there is a definite positive bit of news in this program or in this report for senate leaders and that is on deficit reduction. $321 billion in reduction over the course of a ten-year period. here's why that matters. obviously republicans want to reduce the deficit. on the top line it's a positive number. it is also a positive number, wolf, when you talk about what republican leaders are trying to do now. based on the senate rules they need to match house spending over the course of a ten-year period which sets out to be $133 billion. that means they have nearly $200 billion to work with and still meet that target. why that matters? moderate senators looking for more money for medicaid, more things like opioid rehabilitation funding, all those types of issues, now they have a pot to actually try and accomplish those goals, try and get senators back on board. but i will tell you, one of the senators that made very clear the top line coverage number was very important is senator susan
collins. my colleague m.j. lee caught up with her off the senate floor and she said pretty bluntly she wanted to review the report, but obviously the top line number, wolf, quote, it's not positive. >> yeah, i'm sure she believes that very, very strongly. what is the cbo report, the score tell us about the potential impact on premiums? >> reporter: this is also a really key component. if you talk to conservatives in the house and the senate, premiums were their primary focus. for individuals who are in the individual market driving down premiums, premiums they've seen increase over the course of the last couple of years because of the affordable care act is an important piece of this. according to the cbo premiums will go up. by 2020 because of the way the senate gop bill kind of attacks the mandatory regulations that are supposed to be in all insurance plans, premiums are going to start to drop by 2020 down 30% on average for individuals. by 2026, down 20% on average for individuals. that's positive news.
conservatives will say it shows exactly what they're trying to do. if you reduce mandates like essential health benefits, affordable care act requires premium numbers start to drop. deductibles will be very high according to the cbo and there is a real concern lower income americans and americans just under the age of eligibility for medicare will face increased premiums, essentially price themselves out of the market. that is a real concern there. that is a concern republicans were trying to address in how they shifted the structure of their tax credit. the idea according to the cbo that did not exactly accomplish the goals they were [ inaudible ]. at least on the top line, on the premium numbers this is something you'll hear repeatedly from republican officials. this is something they focused on, they believe they accomplished this goal. there is more to it than the top line number but that is something to pay attention to going forward. for conservatives many who. been wary, wolf, you know quite well, getting on board with this bill, premiums are the ball game. premiums are what they care about if they can show this bill will reduce premiums on average that is positive news for
republicans. >> very quickly, on medicaid cuts, the house bill that narrowly passed, the cbo estimated it would cut by $800 billion over a decade. the senate legislation, the kprrcbo now says $770 -- $772 billion cut over the next ten years. i asked the question because the president has promised during the campaign that he would not cut medicaid at all. >> reporter: yeah, look, republicans will say this is a reduction on spending on the current baseline and therefore it is not a cut. but it is a change in how much money would be spent over the course of the next decade. it is also worth noting that the most dramatic reductions in spending based on the current republican bill in the u.s. senate would come in 2026. and after, as they change how the growth rate of spending is pegged. they change it to just baseline inflation as opposed to medical inflation as it currently stands so the number would -- the actual top line number of reductions in spending would grow over the course of years. this is going to be something they are going to have to
defend, particularly when you can play clip after clip after clip of the now president, then candidate saying medicaid wouldn't be cut. democrats say this is absolutely a cut. get ready to hear a lot more of that in the days ahead. as i can still tell you, wolf, republican leaders still targeting a vote this week in the u.s. senate. if they can reach that magic number of 50. >> and if they can't reach the magic number of 50, will there still be a vote? >> reporter: it's an open question. talk to republican aides. they say the vote happens this week no matter what. you had senator mitch mcconnell tell his conference now is the time. i've had several senate aides tell me this doesn't get better over time. the rationale being we know where our conservatives stand. we know where medicaid expansion senator stands. because you have another week to go through this their base lines won't change. they compromise now or move forward. we'll see if that threat has teeth. one thing to keep in mind, wolf. when senators go home at the end of this week long recess, there are plans to protest to be
everywhere they are to try and drive up the pressure to oppose this bill. that is pressure i can tell you senate leaders would rather their members not face. that is why they want to have a vote this week. >> all right, phil mattingly on capitol hill. we'll see if that vote takes place. also tonight we are hearing the trump administration feels vindicated after the u.s. supreme court allowed part of the embattled travel ban take effect. the president declined to discuss that with the indian prime minister tonight. let's go to white house correspondent jim accosta. jim, are you surprised the president didn't bring this up? >> reporter: not surprised. they told us before the news conference he was not going to take questions. that didn't stop a few of us including this reporter from attempting to ask the question about that congressional budget office score phil was just talking about, 22 million people going without insurance as a result of this senate bill. the president did not take that question nor did he take a number of other questions on that subject. he also did not comment on the travel ban despite the fact that
they're feeling rather jubilant over here at the white house the supreme court is allowing part of that travel ban to go into effect. the president indicated that in a statement to reporters, to the public earlier today, we can put it up on screen. this is what it says. it says it allows the travel suspension for the six terror-prone countries and the refugees suspension to become largely effective. people in our country want to do us harm. the president there sounding very happy about the fact that the supreme court is allowing part of this travel ban to happen. but, wolf, one of the ramifications, you might say, of the fact that the president did not take any questions at this event in the rose garden is the fact that we did not get a chance to ask the prime minister of india what he thinks about this travel ban, after all, there are more than 100 million muslims living in india, wolf. >> the president announced today, jim tweeted, sees it as a win in the russia investigation. explain to our viewers what he's driving at.
>> reporter: this is the latest attempt of the president to change the narrative of the russian investigation. he's blaming president obama for not doing enough on this and there are some democrats and key democrats who do agree with that point. congressman adam schiff who is the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee. he was saying that on one of the sunday talk shows over the weekend. but the president in these tweets earlier today was essentially saying that the president was colluding with the russians for president obama colluding with the russians by not initiating a more robust investigation, something the obama is pushing back on. this is one of the tweets we can put this up on screen, would have. this is what it says. the real story is president obama did nothing after being informed in august about russian meddling with four months looking at russia under a magnifying glass. they have zero tapes of trump people colluding. there is no collusion and no obstruction. [ inaudible ] the president there saying s somebody should be saying sorry to him about this russia investigation. one thing we want to point out,
he said president obama did nothing. learning about russian meddling, that is not the case. former president obama did actually confront russian president vladimir putin at a g20 summit in china last year. so, this is a factually inaccurate comment from the president in that tweet earlier today, wolf. >> all right, jim accosta, at the white house for us. thanks. let's get more on all of this. richard blumenthal a democrat on both the judiciary and armed services committees. senator, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. great to be with you. >> so, on sunday here on cnn, the health and human services secretary dr. tom price said that under the gop health care bill -- and i'm quoting now -- we would not have individuals lose coverage that they want for themselves and for their family, close quote. the cbo congressional budget office now estimates that 22 million fewer americans would have health insurance by 2026 than they would under obamacare. the cbo says 15 million would
lose health care insurance in the first year alone. how do you square with secretary price is saying with those numbers? >> there is no way to square that statement with the truth. in fact, the cbo numbers are a searing indictment of that apparently false statement. the republicans have gone from total secrecy to total chaos, and now they have no way to square reality with what their promises have been. one out of every $4 going into medicaid now will go to tax cuts for the rich est americans by 2026. so, the way to view this plan is not as a health care plan, but a massive tax cut for the wealthiest. in fact, one of the witnesses in the emergency field hearings i've held in connecticut said this is not a health care program, it's a wealth care program. and i think that the republicans
are going to have to look at themselves in the mirror, look at their consciences, but also look at their constituents if, as we hope this vote is delayed. >> the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell wants a vote by thursday before the july 4th recess. he just put out a statement, senator. let me read part of it to you. americans need relief from the failed obamacare law. the senate will soon take action on the bill that the congressional budget office just confirmed will reduce the growth in premiums under obamacare, reduce taxes on the middle class, and reduce the deficit. the american people need better care now and this legislation includes the necessary tools to provide it. close quote. i want your response. >> the only way that this bill reduces premiums is by reducing coverage, reducing benefits. in other words, reducing what americans receive for the dollars that they will spend. in fact, it will drastically decimate coverage by enabling
states to waive out of the requirements for essential health benefits. there will be annual caps and limits on what's covered. there will be a return to discrimination based on preexisting conditions. there will be defunding of planned parenthood. so, the assault on women's health care will resume. and by 2026, the figure for the number of americans uninsured will be 49 million americans, and that will mean a shifting of burden, in fact, to the states. i will predict we'll see a massive outcry from many of the state officials, governors and others who will see in connecticut a billion dollar more. as you pointed out, nearly $800 billion in medicaid reduction. those premium reductions and those deficit reductions are at the expense of health care. that is why all the health care providers, docs, hospitals say first do no harm. >> what do you say to
republicans who argue this health care bill does not include a so-called cut in medicaid spending, it only includes a reduction in the rate of growth of medicaid spending? because the president promised there would be no cuts in medicaid at all. >> includes cuts in medicaid spending that are vital to american health care. for example, the two-thirds of seniors in nursing homes right now, and i visited one of them just last friday, will be deprived of support when they go into those nursing homes. we're talking there about middle class americans who exhaust their savings. the opioid abusers, people with substance abuse disorders who now are receiving treatment will be deprived of it. the effect on ordinary americans will be absolutely devastating, cruel and costly, and i mean costly in the long run because if illnesses or conditions or
diseases are not treated before they become more serious, they indeed become more costly. in emergency rooms which have to care for them and all kinds of other places. >> we see how significantly important medicaid is. the cbo, the congressional budget office, senator, say people who lose essential health benefits will see substantial increases in premiums or out of pocket spending. some states waive essential health benefits, others don't. could americans see very different coverage depending on where they live in the united states? >> that's a really important point, wolf, because the effects are not only on medicaid. they're also on the private insurance market. and when premiums go up or down, the point for many americans in many states will be they see loopholes that swallow the rules. they see waivers that deprive them of benefits for preexisting conditions. coverage, for example, for the 6-year-old in my state who's
story came before me in our emergency health hearing. connor, who is 6 years old, suffered from muscular dystrophy. he was born with it. it's a preexisting condition. his parents have to spend 50 plus thousand dollars a year. they will receive nothing if it's deemed to be a preexisting condition in my state. so, this kind of loop hole waiver, technical will deprive americans of real coverage. >> senator, let's turn to the supreme court decision on the travel ban. we won't have to wait until the fall for a final verdict. parts of the travel ban will be allowed to go skbo effect for the time being. >> having read the opinions of both the majority and dissent, i think there is less victory than meets the eye. the reason is this travel ban is lifted, it's blocked for every
one of the individuals who went to court to block it. and every other individual who has the same situation, namely, they have a bona fide relationship with a person or an entity, meaning a relative, a brother or sister, possibly a close friend, or a university, an employer. so, people who are in that situation, after two years of vetting, almost all individuals will have that situation, will be able to come to this country. now, remember, here's the most telling part of the analysis. ruth bader ginsburg was fine with this out come. the dissenters were the three most conservative members of the court. they were the ones who said they [ inaudible ] that this was not a victory for the administration. and, so, i think that kind of indication of where support or dissent came from is very
important. plus, the administration kind of received a slap from the court when it said that coming back in october, you better have your act together. this temporary ban was only for 180 days, 120 days so you could review the existing vetting process. you'll be way beyond 120 days in october. >> senator blumenthal, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> we're going to have much more on all the breaking news right after this quick break. theto me than my vacation.tant so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time.
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effect as the justices agree to hear challenges to the ban in the fall. let's bring in our analysts and specialists. gloria, how significant is this supreme court decision, at least temporarily allowing part of the travel ban to be implemented? >> look, i think it's significant for the president because he can claim a victory, a partial victory. i mean, what the supreme court said is they are going to consider this in the next term. but for now, the president does have a partial victory because certain, certain people will be prohibited from coming into this country unless they have a specific reason or a person they want to visit, et cetera, et cetera. there will be lawsuits as a result of this, i can guarantee you. also, if i were the president and i took a look at the way neil gorsuch came down on this case, i would say i appointed the right guy because he's on my side. he would have let the travel ban stand. so, i think if you're donald trump today, you're pretty happy
with this result. >> phil mudd, the president says he was very moved by the chemical attack on syrians, civilians, children and remember how the u.s. responded? but people fleeing syria and five other muslim majority countries, including libya and sudan, some others, they will not be allowed into the united states, refugees, unless they have a bona fide relationship with a person or entity in the united states. so, how do you square that? >> i'm not sure you can. the president made the right move in syria. look, when a leader of a country uses chemical weapons against his own people, especially a country that can't really threaten the united states, it's a no-cost move by the president. we've got to respond. about a month ago, wolf, [ inaudible ] at my residency hosted refugees from iraq, from africa, from afghanistan. they didn't come from syria, but they came from countries where the united states is in a war-time environment, regardless
of whether congress has declared war. they have lost friends and families. regardless of whether the president sees a photo, where the united states is engaged in war and there is a loss of life among people who have lost family members as a result of u.s. action, i think you have to step back and say, is it appropriate for us to just say, you can't come into this country unless there's a technical sort of reason for you to be here. my answer is i don't think so. if the u.s. in this new era of war, it's not world war ii, it's not vietnam, it's sort of this uncertain war in the war of terrorism, if you've lost family members or associated with people who lost family members, should you be allowed to come here, i think the answer has to be we've got to consider it. the answer may be yes. >> you know, jeffrey tubin is with us. in the revised 2.0 travel ban, the president for a temporary period didn't even want anyone from the six muslim majority countries allowed into the united states, even if they have what the supreme court called a bona fide relationship with a
person or entity in the united states. so, clearly the president did not get everything he wanted. he wanted a complete ban, a temporary ban on anyone coming from those countries. >> the president was right, or had the right to ban those -- to ban everyone from those countries. the three more conservative justices, justices a lelito, ths and gorsuch. and the full court after arguments may yet agree to ban everyone that the president has the right to ban everyone. but at least for the moment, the six justices said that the people with some context, people with job offers, people with admissions letters to students, that they have the right to come to at least to apply to come to the country. and, you know, that compromise
may last and it may not, but donald trump is in a lot better legal position today than he was yesterday. and it is important to acknowledge. >> how do you see this decision? >> well, it's not what trump said it was in his tweets when he said it was a 9-0 unanimous decision in favor of the travel ban. that was his suggestion today. it was not to say, yes. but as jeffrey points out the three conservative justices basically as sort of expected, they are very deferential to the president when it comes to national security. very deferential to him when it comes to immigration policy. and they, not necessarily weren't saying they agreed with the order, but saying he had the right to do this. there are a number of issues that we don't know what the justice is going to say about the establishment clause challenge to this. do they see this as some kind of new religious test. and what will trump do? this ban is going to expire before the supreme court actually gets to it. will he decide to look --
reading some of the tea leaves, refine the order, issue a new one that may be legally more bullet proof. that's still an option that the white house has. >> ryan makes an important point that i think is worth keeping in mind, is that this order was styled as a temporary 90 or 20-day order which expires. it is possible that the supreme court, which often likes to duck difficult issues, may simply say that the issue is moot by october. and they await a new executive order and have those legal challenges start all over again in the district courts, circuit courts. so, don't discount that possibility that the supreme court just punts on this whole issue in october and waits for a new executive order which doesn't have a time limit. and then wait for legal challenges to that to materialize. >> it's interesting, gloria, in the statement the president released following the supreme court decision, he said today's unanimous supreme court decision is a clear victory for our national security.
it allows the travel suspension, he used the word suspension, not ban, for the six terror-prone countries and the refugee suspension to become largely effective. >> largely effective. >> he says it was a ban but now he's calling it a suspension. >> he's changed his language obviously purposefully. and he called it a suspension and not a ban, which is another purposeful change of language. and i think what the president is turning this partial victory into a complete victory, and he's saying, look, they've upheld what i wanted to do, which is not what they did. but it's certainly better than where it was yesterday. no, no. >> but i do think, fair is fair. all nine justices did allow some part of this travel ban, whatever you -- suspension, to go into effect.
that's unanimous. so, i think he is within his rights to call this a partial unanimous victory. >> exactly. it's not the way he envisioned it, right, from the get-go, but the way the court is allowing it, i think he'll take the >> just one final point, phil can speak to this as well. this is a decision about whether he has the legal authority to do these things. this says obviously nothing about whether it's justified from a policy perspective. and i still personally don't think that the administration or anyone in the counterterrorism community has made a case that this is actually anything that makes us safer. phil, correct me if i'm wrong. >> you want to have a conversation about whether this has a national security imperative? look at countries i would worry about, afghanistan, pakistan, saudi arabia, not included here. i would go back to more profound questions. that is, if you go back to the vietnam war, would you say back in 1973, 1974, our question is whether you can have a direct link to american family or is
your question when you participate in a conflict overseas, america has some responsibility to absorb refugees? i think we're way too down in the weeds. >> but we had the election. this is what donald trump campaigned on and this is what people voted for. >> election is better. stand by, everybody. bottom line for republicans now that the cbo has crunched the numbers on the senate health care bill, will the report sway any members of the president's party who are threatening to sink the legislation? and the terrifying moments as passengers felt the plane shake for nearly two hours and heard the pilot encourage them to pray. what went wrong? we're getting new information. could it happen again? saturdays used to be for college football. now you drive 300 miles to watch this. don't get me wrong. you love "flag dancing" as much as the next guy. all eight hours of it. but what you really love is your little girl. yes, nice pop toss!
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health care legislation will impact insurance coverage. this history of inaccuracy, rather, as demonstrated by its flawed report on coverage premiums and predicted deficit arising out of obamacare reminds us that its analysis must not be trusted blindly. so, basically, what the white house is trying to say is what, again, many republicans we talk to have been coming in and out of votes here in the senate have been saying, which is that those who are supportive of the senate obamacare repeal bill are trying to tell them republican colleagues who are skeptical and even more so after seeing the cbo report, that they shouldn't necessarily believe the analysis that's before them and that is certainly the message coming out of the white house. >> dana, you've been up on capitol hill all day. what's the reaction been to this congressional budget office estimate? >> reporter: well, you know, despite the fact that, as i said, some supporters of this
bill are trying to say don't believe these numbers, the reality is that they are believable to a lot of those who are skeptical because it's really the only thing that they have to rely on, is this kind of nonpartisan report. even though, of course, nobody can [ inaudible ] the future. just give you one example. senator lindsey graham who just came off the senate floor after talking to a lot of his colleagues about what the reaction is, listen. >> from a political point of view, if you had a problem with the bill, the cbo score didn't help you at all. >> reporter: is this going to pass, bottom line? >> it won't get 49 votes. 50, 30 or 35, i don't know if i were a betting man, i think it's going to be a heavy lift between the cruz, rand paul world, and susan collins. it's going to be tough to get to 50, but time will tell. >> reporter: so, what he was just describing there, wolf, is what the republican leadership is trying to balance as it goes
into what they still plan will be the beginning of debate later this week, which is trying to get the moderates to overcome their concerns about the fact that people, according to this report, are going to lose coverage, 22 million people are going to lose coverage. that is not going to help people like susan collins, moderate of maine, like dean heller, moderate of nevada, overcome their concerns. it is pretty clear that that is the case. and on the conservative side of the republican spectrum, still to this minute, you have people like ted cruz and mike lee and others who are working with, they say, working with the leadership to try to reduce the regulations that are still in place from obamacare, even beyond and especially beyond what they have tried to do in this bill. so, it's that kind of delicate balance that the republican leadership is going to continue
to try to do. but at the end of the day -- i talked to an administration source who made very clear that they still do not see the light at the end of the tunnel. they cannot lose more than two republicans, and at this point they're just not there yet. wolf? >> we'll see if there is a vote even if they don't have the 50 that they need to ensure passage. that will be very, very interesting. dana, thanks very much. we're continuing to follow major developments here. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. ♪
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> let's go right back out to dana bash. she's up on capitol hill with one of the potential key votes in the entire health care legislation. dana, you're there with lisa murkowski. >> reporter: that's right, that's right, wolf, i am. senator murkowski, thank you so much for stopping. appreciate it. bottom line, now that you've seen the cbo report, what does it mean for you in terms of the potential for you to vote for or against this health care bill? >> well, i've seen the headline of the cbo report, 22 million would come off the insured rolls. i think that's a significant concern for all of us. so, i've got my homework. i am going to add this to the time that i spent this weekend reading the full bill. but to be able to study the cbo report is important. right now i've got a lot of
discrepancy between the numbers that we see from the state versus what we got from cms. i'm trying to get some serious answers to some really very serious questions. >> reporter: and the white house just put out a press release saying that cbo can't be trusted because their analysis and predictions about what obamacare would do turned out not to be the case. do you agree with that? how much weight are you putting in the cbo analysis that does show 22 million people would lose health insurance? >> it's not just the cbo analysis. again, alaska is such an outlier in so many areas. the cbo analysis is the nationals. i want to make sure that i understand what this really means for the people that i work for back home. so, i'm going to get the numbers. and if i can't get the numbers, it's really tough for me to make a fair and a balanced evaluation as to this bill. so, i'm going to dig for them. i'm going to try to get the numbers. i'm going to insist on getting
the numbers. let's put it that way. >> reporter: at the end of the day, you talk about the state of alaska which is unique, constituents that you have who have come to rely on this kind of coverage. what is going into your decision making on how to vote for this or what you would like from the leadership in order to get your vote? >> really, my views have not changed in terms of the things that i'm focusing on. i want to make sure that those that [ inaudible ] the benefits that come through medicaid and now medicaid expansion are able to see that, a level of continuation of care. i want to make sure that a state that pays the highest cost for our premiums so far and above any state out there, that there is some level of a balance in equity. right now, making sure that, that the tax credits are something that work in a
high-cost, low-population state like mine. so, it's making sure that access is continued. and you all know i have been a supporter of funding for planned in my state, that's access for women. so making sure that access is continued, costs come down and those that have received the benefits that we have clearly in alaska and around the country with medicaid expansion, those benefits are continued. >> reporter: you mentioned planned parenthood. this bill cuts funding for planned parenthood for one year. >> that concerns me. >> reporter: will you vote for something like that that cuts it at all? >> what i have said very clearly is that i don't think that the issue of medicaid reimbursement for planned parenthood should be an issue in this bill and i still feel very, very strongly about that and if we have to get
to a point to offer amendments, i would support that. >> reporter: at this point in time -- you said you studied the bill this weekend. i know you're going to study the cbo report. if you have to vote today, how would you vote? >> today i don't have enough information. i don't have enough data in terms of the impact to my state to be able to vote in the affirmative. so i'm trying to get the information i think that in fairness to alaskans, they deserve that information. this is big stuff. and so making sure that we get it right is something that i have said is an imperative. i don't think it's asking too much to say give us the time to fairly and critically analyze these numbers. and if you say, well, cbo numbers don't matter, let's look
at the numbers that you don't think matter. but it really does make a difference and these numbers that we're talking about, these are men and women. these are our families that are being impacted. so let's please get it right. >> reporter: senator, thank you your time. appreciate it. wolf being back to you. >> thank you. everybody stand by. more on the breaking news coming up. also, new details coming in on the impact of the republican health care bill. what will the impact be for millions of americans. plus, a flight so terrifying, the pilot asked the passengers to play. casper makes one perfect mattress.
new details tonight of a terrifying flight. a crippled plane shaking so violently that passengers say the pilot asked them to start to pray. our aviation correspondent rene marsh has the very latest for us. it's a night no one on board will ever forget. >> that's right, wolf. tonight, cnn has learned it was engine failure that caused the passenger plane to shake uncontrollably. a blade in one of the engines broke off leaving the aircraft with only one functioning engine while it was still airborne. tonight, the budget airline engine's manufacturers as well as safety investigators are trying to determine exactly how this happened. heart-stopping vibrations while on board this flight for nearly two hours as it flew over the indian ocean. >> our survival depends on your cooperating. >> reporter: two times the pilot
asked them to pray. terrifying for passengers who thought they were going to die. >> i was just very nervous. i thought the whole plane was just going to go flplummeting down. >> reporter: the passengers heard a loud bang and the plane continued to shake continuously. the pilot announced engine trouble and then turned the airasia flight around. >> one of the left blades on the engine was missing. >> reporter: this image reportedly shows one of the plane's engines. one blade is broken off. >> they will be able to tell through a study whether it was a fatigue, some other problem. they will look at the other blades in that engine and see whether there are any other signs of a problem. >> reporter: it's expected to be a focus for investigators. >> they will go back over the history of this engine from the moment it was put on this plane
and they will investigate all of the components that could have failed. >> reporter: the flight that took off from perth, australia, bound for kuala lumpur, returned safely to australia. the airline has now launched an investigation into cause in a statement the airline said, quote, we would like to stress that airasia group has always strictly followed the maintenance program prescribed by our manufacturers. the airbus 330 is one of the most commonly used aircraft for long-haul air travel. investigators are now trying to determine if this was an isolated incident or part of a larger problem with these rolls royce engines. it's important to point out, this aircraft is designed to fly with only one engine. now, the airline has not said anything beyond this assuring that safety is their priority. one passenger told cnn he received $20 as compensation for all of this.
wolf? >> once the pilot says to start to pray, i can only imagine how scared all of those folks must have been. thanks very much for that report. that's it for me. thanks for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, the breaking news, the numbers are in tonight. 22 million more americans will be uninsured if the senate health care bill passes. is it about to be the law of the land? and jared kushner with a major hire. hiring one of the united states' leading criminal defense attorneys to his team. plus, trump destroying obama's policies and he's just getting started. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, 22 million americans, that's how many more americans will be uninsured over the next ten years under trumpcare. it drew swift and much angry reac