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crunchy outside. chewy inside. tum tum tum tum new tums chewy bites. everyone. >> i'm john berman. >> and i'm poppy harlow. >> one republican senator who supports the senate healthcare bill quote left the meeting at the white house with a sense the president did not have a grasp of some basic elements of the senate plan. >> the white house has a complete grasp of the fact there will be no healthcare bill this week and majority leader mitch mcconnell not happy about that. >> either republicans will agree and change the status quo or the
markets will continue to have to collapse and we have to sit down with senator schumer and my suspicion is any of the negotiations with democrats would include none of the reforms we would like to make on the market side and majority side. >> i don't think he's too serious about option b. option a getting votes among republicans, how's that going. >> good morning. >> reporter: good morning. even though the vote was delayed yesterday, the next 48 to 72 hours will be crucial. this is what leadership wants to continue doing now. continue having conversations with rank and file members and getting no votes to a yes and making changes and want to get this done by the end of this week for two reasons. they want to make sure they have submitted the bill to the cbo
for an updated score and want a bill done as quick as possible when members come back from the july 4th weekend. there have been many senators who felt mcconnell has been rushing this vote and since then a number of republicans saying they're more hopeful the extra time could get colleagues to a yes. senator ron johnson very opposed to this bill sounding a little more upbeat on "new day" this morning. >> bottom line, we can do this but we need the information. the problem in washington, d.c. we talk policy absent and devoid of information. that was my problem was it started with these policy arguments void of any information. we finally have some information, one cbo score. i think this will give us a lot of latitude to get the votes. >> the tough news for mitch mcconnell right now there are
more republicans opposed to this bill than ever before. keep in mind yesterday after he made this announcement about the vote being delayed, three more senators coming out to say they're opposed to the bill. what's tricky is we have a mix off conservatives and moderates who have issues with this legislation. to give you a sampling of the sticking point of members not able to get to a yes right now, member believe the cuts to medicaid are too deep. the cbo said 22 million more people would be uninsured under this bill than obamacare and others like to see more opioid treatment in rural hospitals. two members came out as brand new nos yesterday. and others want to see more obamacare regulations repealed, important for members like mike lee or ted cruz.
and when senate republicans return home fourth of july recess this coming week, they're likely to hear from a lot of angry constituents. that might make it even harder for some of them to get to a yes. >> we're watching as they hold town halls on recess. meantime, president trump's long time confident, roger stone, is scheduled to testify before the house intelligence committee next month. >> he wanted to do it publicly about this whole thing. what will he say now? joe johns at the white house. >> reporter: apparently he wanted to say he wasn't has plugged in to russian and hacking as a lot of people once thought. this is one of the mysterious avenues of the russian investigation, they thought
there was damaging knowledge about the hillary clinton campaign and e-mail especially john podesta, the campaign chairman who appeared before the committee just yesterday and roger stone putting out a statement reading in part, i am confident podesta most likely repeated his lie that i knew in advance about the hacking of his e-mail and i'm anxious to rebut this falsehood. i'm unhappy it's not in the public but i want to resolve this. stone said he had communicated with wikileaks founder, julian assange. later that month he predicted it would be podes stas time in the barrel and later said he was talking about business dealings and then in october is when he
wikileaks started releasing podesta e-mail. podesta saying he doesn't blame the obama administration for dropping the pal in the russian interference. >> i think the president and the entire administration were dealing with an unprecedented incidence of the weaponization of the fruits of russian cyberactivity and i think they were trying to make the best judgments they could on behalf of the american people. >> by the way, in addition to the remarks about assange last year, it shows roger stone had some communication with gussy fer 2.0 who claimed credit for hacking the democratic national committee's e-mail. there's a lot for roger stone and the house committee to sit down and discuss the end of july. >> behind closed doors. you get a sense if it's involving roger stone he might find a way to make it more of a
circus. could the healthcare state of play be changing state of play. assistant editor for the "washington post" and reporter for the washington examiner. and professor. the president defensive how much he knows about healthcare. there was an article claiming he didn't get a sense the president has a full grasp of the details and the president tweeting, i know the subject really really well. what's he doing? >> he's being reactive. it's no secret he is a consumer of news especially the "new york times" and our own channel right here. he reacts. sometimes people that are not in his head don't know he assumes everybody knows what he's
reacting to. he's putting a line out there, i know plenty about what's going on. the sausage making is ugly and complicated and a lot of moving parts. i'm sure he doesn't know every minutia. having said that knowing he's becoming a bigger part getting these senators to come on board with the bill he probably knows enough for negotiating tactics. that in essence is what he's leading into. i'm part of this, i'm making things happen. >> if you ask susan collins, one of the most vocal critics of the senate gp bill, the president doesn't know how to work with congress well. >> this president is the first president in our history who has had neither political nor military experience. thus, it has been a challenge to him to learn how to interact with congress, and how to push
his agenda forward. >> she was at the white house yesterday for that meeting. is she right? is it the president holding this thing up? >> poppy, the president is part of it. senator collins' criticism in a way is more damning than the criticism he isn't schooled on all the particular policy details. he didn't bill himself as a policy warning when he ran for president, a deal-maker. the idea he hasn't figured out a way to bring all factions something is a thing that ought to sting the white house more than policy. to go back to the policy, let's remember going back to the healthcare debates of '09 and 2010, by this time in the debate, president obama was ramping up to then joint speech before congress and spoke for 29 minutes about his vision of
healthcare and then got face-to-face on camera with republican senators at blair house and had that heated exchange with senator mccain and others and hashed out this issue. president trump hasn't done that and why you're seeing this criticism. >> how many votes did president obama openly win from the other party on this? >> zero. >> you could argue wasn't more effective than the others. president trump got this through the house of representatives may get it through the senate. >> the president seemed defensive about something i don't think is on him this morning. mitch mcconnell was trying to get it through and didn't want the president's help. >> an arg saying mcconnell's reputation as a master tactician takes a hit. he's the guy that tried to
thread the needle so far and couldn't. >> senator mcconnell trying to move through an obstructionist role he played for years. there's a problem with the legislation, not trump or mcconnell. problems with the bill causing senators like collins saying, i can't vote for this. what's making the republicans uneasy is the president's acumen, goes back and forth calling the house bill mean and saying it was okay if it didn't pass. when you have to make a vote, that's not what you want from the president of your own party. >> you don't exactly have democrats raising their hand saying we will jump in here and massage this because there are parts of obamacare that are severely broken. >> i would say every democrat
senator that is unhappy how obamacare impacted their bottom line, lost their doctor or coverage. this is what you get with government in healthcare. there are people unhappy with obamacare and people unhappy with whatever comes out of this process right now. nothing about this is ever going to be smooth and perfect because there's all different kinds of lies impacted in different kinds of ways. you have states like kentucky and tennessee and iowa don't have one choice. we have a broad amount of problems with either choice. >> i want to shift gears, if i can, to roger stone, the political sometimes outside advisor to the president, someone who's been a colorful person in the political world for decades and decades.
he will testify we if hind closed doors. i have a sense with roger stone, nothing will stay behind closed doors. >> one thing that set roger stone apart in the congressional and special council investigations, at every opportunity stone has said he wants to tell his story, not shying away from cameras or the press, wants to testify publicly. we don't know yet if any laws were broken or what he new or didn't know about the investigation and they will try to find it out behind closed doors. a little bit odd this morning, time mask is asking for
multiple trump golf courses, what are essentially fake "time" magazines with the president on it. you saw this and tweeted one word. why? >> when my kids were little they were holding the baseball bat and you get them back, you would order a magazine coverage. say you had a .500 average and you're the biggest hitter in baseball history, to me, when i saw that, that was sort of the equivalent of that, right? it's silly, that it was done, but nonetheless, this guy is a marketer, this is what he does, i'm not surprised. it's silly that such a big deal was made about it. >> i think david said to discredit that it was everywhere. it was a little more than
grandfather of the year type of "time" magazine. there were other details on it that made it seem -- we don't know this, if the president was trying to make it seem like it was real or not. >> we don't know who did it. >> it's one of those silly stories that points to the presidency, the manipulation of information and crafting of fact that gets to the heart of the trump presidency and a concern for many people on both sides of the aisle and why this stopper gained steam. >> and kate, how did she feel? >> was she on the titanic? >> we'll never know. >> talking to one of those republican senators optimistic, thinks they can get to 50 votes by the end of this week. ready to strike syria if the
this morning, there is no vote on the republican healthcare or this week for that matter. the scramble to get to 50 votes is on and there is new word the republican leadership wants a new bill worked out by friday. >> supporting the senate's draft bill, nice to have you and thanks for joining us. >> glad to be with you. that's the way i understand it. the leadership is trying to get the members to come together and have something agreed to by the time we leave on friday. >> that is a big challenge. spreading the circle because there is a big divide within your own party to get to that number. the white house yesterday they were quote saiding we know the parts we need to move. what are the parts that is needed to change for both sides of republican holdouts. they're not all holdouts, as you
know, for the same reason. >> that's true. regulatory flexibility allowing more choices in the private sector in terms of the types of policies offered once the state has complied with the federal requirements. that's one thing that will get some conservatives on it and we ought to be able to do. there's some things we'd like to do on the right side of the spectrum problems on the reconciliation rules, selling across state lines and association-based healthcare plans, things like that. we're working through the reconciliation rules. there are people very concerned we're not allocating enough medicaid money to pay for the opioid crisis. i think those are issues that can be addressed from both angles. here's why i am optimistic because everybody in that room that consisted of 46 of the 52
republican senators wants to get to a yes. there was an again determination in that room yesterday working with the president to see what we can do in the next few days to move the parts and get to something we might not be 100% overly delight about but something that will work and make the healthcare system more sustainable, give people more choices in the private sector and make medicaid better. >> we will see what you can hammer out as far as that goes. one of the senators yesterday told the "new york times" that the white house left and they had a sense the president did not have a grasp of some of the basic elements of the senate plan. what do you make of that? >> actually, i was -- i felt quite the opposite. the president is not a technician and he doesn't get
down into the weeds. but in terms of the dealing with the specifics that were being mentioned i really was quite impressed that mr. trump was so up on the issues. i didn't see that at all. i think obviously he's looking at it from 30,000 foot view. what will make the system better overall for the country and for the future financial viability of the united states and our budget. i think he knew the details quite well. >> so a staffer from your fellow mississippi republican senator, that cochran, told "politico" their office has received 224 calls against the senate republicans healthcare bill and just 2 in favor. all in the last week. what are your constituents calling and saying? is your office getting the same calls? >> that's about right. let me just tell you. if i needed to, i could get on
the internet and the phone and generate 2 or 300 calls. we're trying to do the right thing for our constituents. and i've been in office for a year or two now. i have a pretty good sense of what people in our state want us to do and i think senator cochran does also. we appreciate any time somebody e-mail us or calls us, but clearly, you can generate phone calls through a grassroots effort, and that is not exactly the end of the issue in my determination. we appreciate those calls. >> not the end of the issue. >> we don't add them up -- >> sometimes, it's representative of public opinion or at least a feeling among tomorrow people. i imagine a lot of these calls have to do with the medicaid spending, reduction in medicaid spending and medicaid growth over a long time. how will you ease -- >> i would say to those people, for one thingy there was an article in one of our daily
newspapers about a mom who said her daughter was not going to be covered if the republican senate bill passed. we called this particular woman, worked through the situation with her and showed her chapter and verse how indeed under the chips program her child would in fact still be covered. i think we can answer a lot of those. also, under the proposal as it stands now, which may be modified, under the proposal as it stands now, in states that didn't expand medicaid, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people depending on the size of the state, would be able to get off of medicaid and have a refundable tax credit, whether they pay taxes or not, to use to buy private health insurance. you can't tell me that's not a better outcome for americans to have the choice of picking and choosing what sort of private insurance they'd like to have. >> it may be a better outcome
for those people in the non-expansion states. the question is what happens to some of the expansion states. this is what you have to work out by friday, thank you so much. >> thank you so much. are u.s. warships preparing to strike in syria? new information what's happening on the ground there. a new huge cyber attack. will it affect you? the latest on what happens. orc it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,... with reduced redness,... thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you're allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts... or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight...
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barbara starr. what's the word on the ground and syria. >> what we're beginning to hear, while the u.s. military is still watching very very closely, for now, it does not look like assad has made additional moves on preparations for chemical attacks. has he paid heed to this warning, the old cliche is true, time will tell. right now, the u.s. military has everything in place, all the options ready if there was to be any indication assad is moving towards a chemical weapons attack, they are prepared to give president trump all the options to carry out a u.s. strike. it's everything you would think of. you know, ships and aircraft in the mediterranean, aircraft in the stations already in the region dealing with isis and syria in iraq. what they are really doing is keeping intelligence and reconnaissance over that syrian air base 24/7 to make sure he is
pulling back and is he pulling back and not moving ahead with another chemical weapons attack. >> one of the president's top advisors on this network said syria should not test the trump administration. >> the president was sending a very clear message under this administration of donald j. trump, red lines mean red lines. what would you do in his position if the most powerful nation in the world demonstrated to you we can see what you are doing, wouldn't you think again about actually executing on that decision? i know i would. i wouldn't test donald j. trump. >> what has been the international reaction of all this in the last 24 hours? >> the biggest international reaction we've seen is the fact that the russian chief general has actually been to syria, met with assad at one of russia's
air bases inside syria. you can't underestimate the strength of russia sending that principal military player to assad, as the kremlin said, to discuss coordination between syrian ground forces and russian planes in the sky. when you estimate russia's allies, what ambassador haley said with pointians, when russia has reacted with engagement over syria, it has been over the chemical use of weapons. remember obama's red line the long conference with secretary of state john kerry, right at the end kerry opened the door to give labroth an opportunity to get chemical weapons out of the country and they did it. they went in by and large not a complete job but an assad is not totally aligned with russia but
they were so anxious to get chemical weapons off the table. to this day russia is denying he did that, still calling for an independent international investigation. there's been several, very clear serin or something like that was used. russia refused to believe that. why do they do that about chemical weapons? because they know if assad uses them that rapidly ratchets up the potential of bigger international engagement inside syria, russia's game plan in syria is potentially broken or damaged, the strategy for the middle east potentially damaged or broken. they don't want to risk that. although we don't know what was said to assad, you can imagine from the kremlin's perspective they don't want them using chemical weapons and escalating the situation. >> thank you. we have a cnn exclusive now from inside syria, secret video from
the de facto capitol, raqqa. >> reporter: this is what a reign of terror looks like. isis is losing on raqqa, because of one thing, it's actually easy to film them in secret. using a body camera could be a death penalty for this activist, streets lined with sandbags, they just don't fear isis anymore. to even this foreign fighter from belgium is a target as he makes a front line fashion choice. elsewhere, two russian speaking fighters appear to discuss air strikes.
>> reporter: here, the egyptian looks to the military police for his man and they don't find him. the streets covered with canopies meant to shelter isis fighters from prying coalition drones above. despite the war the market is brimming, even the wounded hobbling around. under siege, why is there so much food? it's shipped in from nearby regime held areas, we're told, commerce alive and well in the caliphate. this shop even seems to offer to exchange dollars. sandbags give shelter from air strikes but also defensive positions when street to street fighting reaches here. some locals have already made
this hostile terrain. one activist from the group telling us how he pins night letters, death threats to the doors of isis informants. we can only get to them by leaving messages on their door like we know who you are and this soon stops them. some of our friends start writing the word free on the words of isis buildings and then locals started it, elderly on walls and children on chalk boards making isis wonder, who are these people. it's getting ugly for isis here. they moved their prisoners out. tom commanders fled. lieutenants only drive around in low profile cars and they're literally at the gate, isis' world literally vanishing fast and this may be the last time we glimpse into their warped way of life. cnn, northern iraq.
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is something we have to make sure that we're strongly opposed to. it's not a smart idea. it won't lower the individual market premiums. we have to get off of this concept. >> one of the things you wrote, you tweeted a lot about this, quote, now it's time to work together. give us an example where you think realistically you as a democratic senator and your peers can do that and propose a change to obamacare that the republicans would accept. what are your proposals? >> actually, there's some things in the affordable care act we should pedal to the metal, go faster on. one is the concept of getting people out of nursing homecare to community-based care. this is something we saved $2 billion doing in the state of washington. we incented in the affordable care act, a few states have taken us up on it. if we would do that together we
would help expedite huge savings. who doesn't want to stay in their home in the last years of their life. it's a win-win situation. a perfect example of a huge savings people should be able to come together on. >> what about premiums. that deals with medicaid. what proposals do you have for reducing premiums, would you allow people to buy insurance over state lines? >> their concept is cut people o or cut benefits. what i'm in favor of is the costco model, i call it, you buy in bulk you get a discount. new york has done that. they bundled up the individual market population above medicaid rates and were successful getting 653,000 people buying affordable insurance there. that's what we would like to push out and get other people to do as well.
>> you have vowed to fight the republicans plan with quote every tool we have. how does that jive with, it's time to work together? one, you fight them you fight them or it's the other. which is it? >> i believe in the information age. i come from a state where we innovate. the tools that i'm going to use is the court of public opinion. information, data, statistics and better ideas. when you can show people, like i just talked about, rebalancing o nursing homecare to community-based care, come to the floor and debate and tell me what's wrong with that idea. it saves billions and a win-win situation. tell me what's wrong with the basic health plan and tell me what's wrong with that that. let's debate that. when i say use every tool, i've gone to my state, many different
locations, hearing from my constituents talking about this. they're probably pretty much for all these things but also giving me examples. we keep posting them. we want to have to debate. >> senator bernie sanders keeps pushing a single player plan, and warren buffet that can afford any type of plan thinks a single payer plan is the best in the country. would you be in favor of single payer? >> i think we should have that flexibility and states should pursue that and make sure that is very available to people. i'm concerned right now we also get a solution. i don't know we can get our republican col legs to be for that right now. this new york plan an option to bundle up the public and give the marketplace clout, an affordable insurance premium like somebody who worked for a big employer, i don't know if you call it an in between step,
certainly something we can get done today. >> where can you point to you think a single payer plan has worked exceptionally well. to clarify, you're saying you think a single player plan would be the best option moving forward even though it's not politically viable right now? >> i'm saying there its a viable option working in new york and we should be laser beamed about it and focused on it. you think about the market, we should bundle people up that have the same clout and work for an employer and work for health insurance costs. that eswhat we do for the individual market. the innovation of the individual care act. i think states innovate and use an option a single payer structure and want to experiment with that they should do it. >> senator cantwell of washington, thanks for being with us, appreciate your time.
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really important story for you now out of havenof venezuel. police helicopter lobs grenades on the supreme court. the helicopter was apparently stolen by a member of the police. though the country's president is describing it as a terrorist attack, no one was injured. none of the grenades detonated. >> the president condemned the incident as a failed coup and is
vowing to hunt down the suspect. what have you learned? >> what we know so far is that the situation is extremely confusing. the helicopter was able to fly for more than an hour ovand abl to throw grenades on the supreme court building. nobody was injured. the government is holding the opposition responsible for what he said was an attempted coup. both sides, opposition and the government, are accusing each other of staging a coup and trying to bring an end to democracy in venezuela and trying to escalate the tension. the situation stays very confusing and very tense. the opposition is marching once again today, later today they will take to the streets once again as they have done for many days in the last three months. the death toll is rising. almost 80 people have been killed so far since these latest
wave of protests started on the 1st of april. >> thank you very much for the reporting. businesses around the world on high alert this morning after another big cyberattack. many companies still concerned their networks may not be secure enough to resist it. nina is in london with more d deta details. how is this different from the attack a few weeks ago. >> that's a great question. the attack a few weeks ago that was responsible for that took out 200,000 computers in 150 countries around the world. it was shut down within 24 hours. it was devastating, but there was a kill switch found. what's different with this virus or a variant is there is no kill sweec switch. it lays dormant and spread in a worm-like fashion before it can be shut down. it doesn't just take down the
files an encrypt them on your computer system. it takes out the hard drive. what is similar is that what we're talking about is something that has been spread probably via a software update. they think originally it was sent out to companies in ukraine. once they downloaded that, it got into their system, into their clients' system and spread to russia and so on and so forth. we have seen it in europe just this afternoon, the maker of nivia said it was still subject to attack and we also saw companies in the united states like pfizer that were coming under attack this time yesterday. what is different is that the big question is even if you pay the ransom with this one, you may not get access to your data and it could spread. >> you have people now battling as best they can to beat this as quickly as they can. thank you so much. a new republican scramble to pass a health care bill after
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the top of the hour, 10:00 a.m. eastern. >> a new deadline for senate republicans since last one worked out so well. they want a new health care deal worked out by friday before they go home for the 4th of july. this cop comes amid a defensive statement from the president who seems to be saying, i understand