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syria? no. he personally attacked cable news host, including the nasty comment about the physical appearance of a female host. now, he's facing bipartisan backlash. one thing the president hasn't tweeted about so far today, health care. republican senators still haven't reached their consensus as their deadline for consensus quickly approaches. now republican senators say this may not happen tomorrow after all. so what is the latest? plus, beating back isis, we'll take you to the front lines in iraq agency the terror group loses control of the historic mosque. good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we're starting with the politics lead. it might be be officially energy week at the white house, but the main fuel being provide said to anyone who has concerns about president trump's temperament and those who see him as unpresidential and even
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misogynistic. the president unhappy about criticisms made about him on msnbc morning joe. lashed out, i hear poorly rated go speaking badly about me, don't watch anymore. then how come mika along with fike sew joe came to mar-a-lago three nights in a row around new year's eve, and insisted on joining me. and after ivanka trump bemoaned how nasty washington and politics are. >> there's a level of viciousness. i was not expecting. i was expecting the intensity of this experience. but this isn't supposed to be easy. >> white house said president trump was merely punching back, fighting fire with fire since the hosts of "morning joe" have attacked president trump. this is how president trump sees
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that it criticism from the media or anyone needs to be fought back. it's been very clear ever since the campaign banned reporters from the des moines register back in 2015 because mr. trump didn't like the editorial the newspaper wrote that he has a problem with criticism. this president first came to political prominence, by the way, by questioning whether the first african-american president was born in africa and was ineligible for president, he wasn't. since monday, the president on twitter has attacked cnn, nbc, cbs, abc, "the new york times" and "the washington post." they are all fake news, he tweeted. that's just since monday. and the white house today complained that we focus too much on his tweets, suggested we cover them disproportionately, citing how many minutes have been spent covering different topics. >> you can't say you want to talk about policy, and then you
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look at the numbers and they just don't lie. >> viewers of this show know that we focus quite a bit on policy. we, of course, cannot ignore wild statements being made by the president of the united states. so as lung as sarah huckabee sanders was looking at numbers, we thought we'd look at the president tweets. of our analysis of 720 tweets from the president's personal account since the inauguration, we found the pleuralty of them were general arguments andth benign arguments about the election and whatnot. but in terms of specific issues, specific issues, roughly 85 tweets were attacks or complaints about the press. this compares with about 67 tweets specifically about jobs, use the word "jobs." and roughly 27 tweets about veterans or the military. those are the numbers in our analysis. our best good faith effort to categorize all of the
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president's tweets. about his tweets this morning, the white house said the personal attack on the appearance of mika brzezinski is exactly why he's a president. >> i think the eamerican people elected someone who is tough, a fighter. that's donald trump. i don't think it's a surprise to anybody that he fights fire with fire. >> american people elected someone to fight, yes. but to fight for them. these nasty personal tweets against individual cable news anchors or those more broadly seeking to undermine any critical journalism, i'm not sure how that serves the soldier in harm's way. or the hungry child in inner city or appalachia. or the unemployed factory worker. 85 tweets attacking the media. 67 about jobs. 27 about troops and veterans -- really? the numbers just don't lie. let's bring in cnn's sara murray at the white house. sarah, with so much of the
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president's agenda in play today, these tweets clearly taking everyone in washington off message including the president's aides? >> reporter: that's right, jake. so much the president could have been focused on plenty of news coming out of the white house including that the president is going to be meeting with vladimir putin on the sidelines at the g20 including the controversial health care vote. but instead, the president is taking at the media and doing it in a very personal way. president trump setting off a firestorm today as he blasted this out on twitter. i heard poorly rated morning joe speaks badly of me. don't watch anymore. then how come low i.g. crazy meek qaa along with psycho joe came to mar-a-lago three nights in a row and insisted on joining me. she was bleeding badly from a face-lift. i said no. the white house doubled down on two msnbc anchors. >> i don't think you can expect
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someone to be personally attacked day after day, minute by minute and sit back. the american people elected a fighter. they didn't elect somebody to sit back and do nothing. >> reporter: but lawmakers characterized it as sexist. >> i think it's blatantly sexist. >> to refer to a female's face as someone who is involved in politics is just not appropriate. >> we have to treat each other with respect and civility. and the president's tweet was completely inappropriate. >> reporter: trump's unwelcome outbursts distracted from his agenda and drawing scorn from the same senators he needs to back the gop health care plan. it's the latest example of trump making tasteless comments about women. on the campaign trail, he criticized his former gop opponent carly fiorina's looking. he tweeted an unflattering photo of senator ted cruz's wife and
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took aim at megyn kelly. >> she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions, you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her whatever. >> reporter: perhaps the most damaging moment of trump's campaign the 2005 video came to life. >> when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ] you can do anything. >> reporter: when nearly a dozen women accused him of making unwelcome advances he denied it. trump apologized for his caught on tape comments while shrugging them off as locker room talk. >> this was locker room talk. >> reporter: now the crass commentary is coming from the white house. >> it is hard, and there's a level of viciousness. that i was not expecting. >> reporter: melania trump even vowed to take up cyberbullying as a cause as first lady.
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>> trying to talk to each other -- >> reporter: but today, her spokeswoman said only this, agency the first lady has stated publicly in the past when her husband gets attacked, he will punch back ten times harder. now, the president did turn back to his own agenda this afternoon, delivering an energy speech to cap off what was meant to be energy week. he talked about cutting back regulations. but, of course, he did all of this after he sparked outrage among members of his own party by taking to twitter. jake. >> sara murray at the white house for us. thank you so much. let's bring in my political panel. so, let's just dive right in. first of all, mary kathryn, i guess that cyberbullying campaign has a big caveat, if you've been attacked first, you can attack back ten times as hard and that's cool. i'm not sure how effective that cyberbullying might be with that caveat. >> frankly, i said at the announcement of that campaign
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that she might just be mefssing with us given how her husband operates online. this comment is obviously disgusting. he was attacked personally on the show. it was not a policy disagreement that he was discussing. and yet, pushing it to that point means that what, everyone talks about this today when you could be talking about kate law or energy. it turns out this is what the president would like to talk about. the thing that i see here is that still no one is capable of telling him let's not. >> or the opportunity to do that. >> yeah. obviously, joe and mika have said very rough things we do in is this country, or at least we used to have a standard where we expect the president to act better than everybody to act but also the cable news host, that's not the standard, i certainly hope i'm not the standard. >> well, look, the white house is tough. it requires a suit of armor for
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some days. you covered the white house when i was in there for a bit of time. disagreements with reporters and how things are covered or shared. when you're not getting things done when you're approval rating is in the 30s, you're going to be criticized put your big boy pants on, put your big girl pants, this is the white house. everybody is watching. obviously people are disgusted by it but i think we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that there's really thin skin going on here when in reality this is a place you need to be tougher. >> president obama would throw an elbow here or there or nothing like we saw on twitter. stick around, we're going to squeeze in a quick commercial. more female lawmakerles are reacting.
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we're back with our politics lead and the growing condemnation of president trump's twitter attack on a female journalist this morning. the panel is back with me. and later in the show, the three of us are going to talk about
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health care reform and some serious policy. but it's not like this policy is unaffected by what's going on. here's say sampling, mary katherine, of some republicans on capitol hill. their reactions to the president's tweets. senator lisa murkowski says, stop it. the presidential platform should be used for more than bringing people down. and then senator ben sass saying potus, please just stop. this isn't normal and it's beneath the office. lindsey graham saying, mr. president, your tweet was beneath the office and represents what's wrong with the american politics, not the greatness of america. those are three people he needs to vote for his health care bill. do you think he cares? >> i don't think he's thinking about that part of it when he's doing this. i don't think there's a grand strategy, on a practical level, he needs to come along with health care. >> and two women senators. >> right. and he does this in other areas
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as well. it's like just shooting himself in the foot. and this guy also, by the way, in addition to not knowing who is going to attack on twitter, they don't know if it will be them. you want to know this guy has your back and not changing his mind four days after he lauded a bill in the rose garden about that bill. i think they're in a precarious situation and whether trump needs those senators or not, he needs those senators for this particular thing. >> yeah, he does. jen, we were talking about in the break about every president takes criticism personally. and you have to behind closed doors walk away from responding. obviously, some criticism is unfair. some criticism stings. but this is -- it's no less of a decision that the three of us make when people attack us on twitter. >> that's right. i think probably for all of us, we've all been attacked on twitter. >> probably right now. >> probably right now. you know, i was the victim of
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russia propaganda going after me. going after my family. so, this is part. reality. i'm not saying it's okay. i wish there was less going after each other at the staff level. that's really picked up a lot in washington the past couple years. this is a shame because these are all public servants regarding of which side of the party you're a part of it. the key piece, is there somebody telling him he shouldn't do that. is there somebody going in the oval office and telling him, this messed up your day, this is a terrible decision. does he ignore them? does nobody go in there? we don't really know that and that's a huge problem. every president needs at least one person who will tell them, something was bad. a bad decision it's hurting their agenda. >> i just got to say as a father and i know the two of you are mothers i don't want to have a president of the united states and point to him and say this is how you should not behave, kids. >> i've wasted a few nights on
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twitter arguing with people who are mean to me. >> stick around. we've got a lot of health care to talk about later. the clock is sticking and now there's concern that gop senator leaders won't be able to reach a deal. where does the senate version of the health care bill stand now? stay with us. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪
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of private meetings, hammering out changes to the currently stalled health care reform bill. >> i just saw a genuine determination on the part of people, center right and maybe nor center left, in the caucus to get to yes. >> reporter: but exactly what those changes are and which members are moving closer to a yes is still unclear. and the senators at the center of the debate are reluctant to say which way they are leaning. >> i'm not going to negotiate with the press here on what it's going to take to get to something favorable for the state of nevada. >> reporter: nevada senator dean heller who has been a vocal opponent to the new bill has been a part of negotiations but was unwilling to get into the details of the bill's progress. >> bottom line is this bill is not good for the state of nevada, i'm simply not going to support it. >> reporter: heller's resistance is just one example in the divide between moderate and conservative wings of the party. conservatives want to rein in
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the cost medicaid including the expansion of the program under obamacare. nevada is a state that expanded their medicaid roles. it stands to lose billions in federal funding under the current draft of the bill. >> changing the growth rates of medicaid to make them a little more generous might help some, but if you do too much of that you're going to lose other people. >> reporter: but while the gop seems to be pretty far apart what doesn't appear to be happening yet is an opening for democrats to join the conversation. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is warning conservatives for a conkiconsen. >> we've made good progress and we'll keep work. >> reporter: and there are plenty of moderate democrats like west virginia senator manchin. >> has anyone talked to you about it? >> we're working, we're just working. we'll be talking. it will happen, hopefully. >> reporter: meanwhile, the white house is taking a more active role in the negotiations with both vice president mike
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pence and senior adviser kellyanne conway making trips to the hill all with hopes that at least a framework of a deal can be struck before congress leaves town. and gop leaders today are really downplaying expectations that a deal could be struck by tomorrow. they said that senator majority leader mitch mcconnell never opposed that deadline. senators at this hour are furiously meeting trying to come through with a breakthrough, jake, it might have to happen today, there are no votes scheduled for tomorrow, most of the senators are heading out of town. >> ryan nobles, thanks so much. so what changes need to be made from moderate to conservative republicans to agree? republican pennsylvania senator pat toomey weighs in next. stay with us. oducing. woo! employee of the month! you really shouldn't leave their side. vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally.
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welcome back to "the lead." you're looking at a live look at the floor of the united states senate. right now, as we're back with our politics lead, senate
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republicans are working trying to reach a deal to repeal and replace obamacare. joining me now is republican senators pat toomey of the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. he's a member of the senate finance committee and budget committee. senator, thanks for joining us. >> thanks. >> we're both pennsylvanians 2.8 million pennsylvanians are covered by medicaid. 700,000 are covered by the medicaid expansion. what do you say to the people who are worried they might lose coverage because of the republican senate bill? >> the fact is they won't lose coverage because of the senate bill, what we do, we codify, we mick permanent the medicaid expansion. as you know, jake, there were four categories of eligible people for medicaid. obamacare created a fifth. that is able-bodied adult with no gents. that category never before was covered. obamacare made them eligible. we keep them eligible. >> close to the poverty line, we should point out? >> yeah, right.
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up to 138% of the poverty line and under 38 and below. we're going to keep that in perpetuity. and new enrollees can enroll. but we're going to ask the states to pay they're fair cost. all of the other categories like the blind, disabled, elderly, poor, the states pay their share. on average that works out to 43%. and we're going to take seven years to go from the federal government paying 90% of this cost and the states paying to just 10%. to the same match for all other categories. i think that's a. >> reporter: reasonable thing to do. it creates an incentive for the states to care about what the program costs. >> all right. you've said this before. you've explained this before. it's true that medicaid funding keeps going up, although it goes up at a lower rate than it would have under current status.
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politifact rated it, in a substantive way like you just did, they say this class understand obamacare previously had as you just referred to still continue to have coverage. but the federal government shift, 90% as you just referred to 57% in 2024. it's possible that individuals enrolled in medicaid under the obamacare compangs would lose coverage if states decline for the shortfall that they will face after the government reduces its share of expanded medicaid costs. is it not possible, if not likely, that some individuals will lose coverage? >> i've always acknowledged that a governor or state government could make that decision, but it would be their decision. and think about what that implies, if a governor were to decide to cop this coverage, what that governor is staying this program is worth it to me when i can buy it 10 cents on the dollar but if i have to pay
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43 cents even with the federal government paying the lion's share, it's not worth it for me. if it's not bore worth it for a governor to pay that, why does it make sense for the taxpayer to pay 90 cents for it? having a shared responsibility between the state and federal government, as we do with all other categories of eligibility just makes perfect sense. and by the way, anything else is completely unstainable. this program in its current form is gleetly unsustainable. nobody disputes that, jake. the question is whether we're going to do anything about it but medicaid has been growing so rapidly that on the path it's on now we're going to face fiscal ruin. this is a very sensible gradual share of responsibility. >> i want to ask you about a letter you got from the pennsylvania state attorney josh shapiro he wanted you to know his concern that his bill would eliminate substance abuse treatment for 170,000 americans.
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expanding access to treatment is critical. the health care bill under consideration will keep us from. he's obviously a democrat. he calls it the most serious public safety threat facing the commonwealth of pennsylvania. >> i'll say the one thing i ale agree with him that the opioid crisis probably is the most serious public health and sate threat that we face. but he's just wrong about medicaid coverage. there's nothing about this that disallows that coverage. in fact, this bill if we can get this done is going to have a significant brand new funding stream precisely for addiction treatment centers. it will be opioid especially but probably broader than that. that's just not the case. there's a very broad system on republican senators that we have a crisis. >> lastly, i do want to ask about president trump's tweets this morning. going out to anchors at a rival cable network calling them crazy
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mika and psycho joe. saying mika was bleeding badly from a face-lift. you're not somebody that employs language like this, even in the heat of a political debate. what do you think when president trump tweets something like this? >> this is maddening. because it's beneath the president of the united states or at least it should be. and it's a distraction. and really, ultimately, it starts to undermine's president's ability to get his agenda done. the president should be focusing on what the people elected him to do, get the government going gin. provide security in a dangerous world. we're going to need a president to focus on those things. >> senator pat toomey from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> let's dive back in with my political panel, mary katharine and jen.
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mary katharine, how can republics brave this divide between the mur cokowski and collins types and ted cruz factions? i don't understand how you get there, easier for collins to make a health care deal with the democrats it seems? >> yeah, it remains to be seen, and it seems impossible, but it seems impossible in the house and mcconnell is quite good at doing things. i think the argument if you don't do what we hash out here, you will have to negotiate with schumer. not a bad argument from mcconnell. look, republicans were elected to do something about a problem that does not exist. we do not live in a health care utopia thanks to obamacare. for people who prefer to see it that way. and the people who sold obamacare did not do it subtly. the promises were brazen, they were big, and they were wrong
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when it comes to the main stuff like affordability, to bring premiums down $2500 when it comes to not losing your plan and doctor. when it comes to competition. one-third of counties in the united states now what zero choices. people like me said at the time, i'm not sure this is going to work out, guys, i'm not even sure the government can launch this website properly. it turned out i'm right. the people who were wrong the first time around who were misled about this, now saying if you don't get on board what we we want, then you're literally an evil death party who wishes thousand of people die. i think this ties the health care story and feet story together, when people look at trump and say, my gosh, why do people vote for this guy? that's one of the reasons. yes, when you make a giant mistake, it's not a giant mistake for everybody with obamacare, but it wasn't a giant
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mistake when it was sold on a bunch of exaggeratinged stuff. and then they come back to you and say, you evil people for not listening to us again, they go, you know what, i'll take the bully over here. i think that is part of people's frustration and that's where we are. these guys are elected to try and solve this problem. they're working on an incremental solution. this is not a repeal that's why it's making everybody upset. it's a real open question with if they're going to do that with the product at hand but i would really like it to talk about it in a way that respects that in good conscious. >> jen, what would you recommend to democrats right now who are seeing that the republicans are having difficulty. i had heard there has been a debate within the republican party on people who want to come up and say here are our ten solutions to approve obamacare. so people like mary katharine and her family are not going through this horror. and here are ten solutions but the democratic leaders have
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referred to let them do it, because it's easier to have all. debate focus on republicans. what would you advise a democrat? >> well, one, because the trump administration hasn't been clear they're going to do cost-sharing payments and because there is competition in the marketplace there is something that needs to be done. and i think a lot of democrats, not all of them, acknowledge that. i would say the democrats go to the table if they have an opportunity. a big problem that a lot of people have with what is happening on the hill right now is that it is not addressing the core problems that there are with obamacare. even if hillary clinton had been elected. this is a piece of legislation that would have to go back to the hospital and have some fixes done to it. statically, across the country, though, it is not as dire for everybody as mary katharine is sayi saying. the rate of uninsured lower, 20 million people have health care. the premiums are lower than it would have been. people with preexisting
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conditions are now covered. so there are a lot of things that have changed for the good. some changes need to be made. i think we all elect people to protect people in the country but this bill that they're putting forward is not addressing any of the core issues. it's taking an agenda that paul ryan and others have had for decades and trying to insert that into as a fix for health care. >> well, the medicaid portion of this which democrats have a huge problem with -- >> not just democrats, a lot of republicans and governors. >> it's something that's very serious with people. i understand, i've dealt with health care issues myself through this process. but when you have like actual studies authed by johnson and gruber, the architect of obamacare that say medicaid does not give results that are better than being uninsured, that is a program that's in trouble. you dump more people into it into able-body, and some above the poverty line, there be reallocating sources to the most
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who it was meant to serve, then you are not doing those people a service. just saying they have medicaid does not actually give them health care. just saying you're in an individual market and lucky you, you have affordable health care lucky you doesn't necessarily give you health care. i would argue that it's hard to say that medicaid should not be reformed in some way if it's not serving people to be literally uninsured. >> give you the last word. >> i'm sure the 20 million people kicked off of health care -- >> a lot of them would not be covered by medicaid. they would love to have access to a great plan. that's not the reality. that's not what's being proposed. so we should stop talking about this in an antiseptic way and talk about people's lives and kids who will not have treatment. but this is not about one study. this is about millions of people. many have told their stories who will not have access to affordable health care if this goes through. >> there are many stories that
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are happening right now you give people ant neck dotes they want data. the date is important. if we want an anecdote based statement, that's important. >> we could do this all day. it was good. i appreciate it. coming up, iceis losing control as coalition forces are take back historic landmark in a key iraqi story. a rare good news story when it comes to isis. stay with us, that's next.
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we're impact now with the pivotal gain in the war against isis. iraq's prime minister said with the help of u.s. forces it recaptured the al nuri mosque, they have recovered the caliphate. but the historic landmark more
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than 800 years hold is rubble blown up by isis in iraq. and nick paton walsh is joining me. the fight in that region far from over? >> reporter: frankly, the victory and celebrating seems to some degree, as of 3:00 this afternoon when we were still there, forces leading the charge against al nuri mosque, they were far have having recaptured it. really, the announcement we've heard today is political, i pose you can pass the statement from the iraqi command saying really given the fact that no one can get into the movlg morph because it's been laden with booby traps. this marks effectively, the symbolic fall of mosul from
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isis' grip and therefore defeated isis more broadly. the problem is, frankly, this is a much more complex tank than simply declaring victory and moving on to the next thing. there are still thousands of civilians in the part of the old city still held by isis and extraordinary deep rift in society between the she that that run the government and the sunni that used to, and now finding the extremist branch. but the fighting is continuing, jake. >> nick, cnn, you have been alongside forces fighting isis in mosul for a few days now. describe some of the scenes you've witnessed? >> reporter: extraordinary mass of fire power used in both sides. unbelievable rubble in what should be possibly one of the most historically beautiful parts of iraq's key cities. and civilians emerging, survived on what little water amongst them. one woman with pins in her leg walked to safety carrying they
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are children. a child that heard nothing but the word mortar in the past few days. people ultimaterly shell-shocked. they're leaving behind the rubble. walking into the difficult of their future. their is iraq and it hasn't finished yesterday. a new scandal rocking the catholic church, this time cardinal george pell, the vatican's number three official has been charged with historical sexual assault offenses in australia. the highest ranking official facing sexual assault charges leaving a dark mark of the paper papacy. let's bring in delia gallagher. delia, what do we know about the charges that cardinal pell is facing? >> reporter: well, jake, victoria police have given very little details except as you mention, they are historic. the ved can called them decades
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old, relating to the time before pell was a cardinal, when he was a priest until australia in the '70s and '80s. the cardinal this morning vehemently denying any wrongdoing. and the vatican saying that the pope is giving him a leave of absence from his role as finance minister here to face trial on july 18th, at which time, we'll probably know more about the specific nature of the charges, jake. >> deal yashgs some of the accusations may be decades old and yet the pope hand-picked the cardinal. this has to be a below to pope francis' papacy? >> reporter: absolutely. this cardinal is important not only because he's the pope's finance minister and one of the chief advisers for pope francis. it has two potential consequences for pope francis, one is to put back what the pope is doing about sexual abuse at the vatican. he's been criticized for lack of
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progress on sex abuse. one of the prominent members of the sex abuse resigned saying the commission is ineffect wall. the story is bringing the spotlight back on pope francis and how much of a priority he's making that at the vat want. and he's lost his finance minister. more accountability, transparency was one of the pillars of pope francis' upon pontificate. it's meeting with resistance within vatican offices now his finance minister is on a leave ever absence and we don't know what the future holds for that potential serious consequences for the pope. >> delia gallagher, appreciate it. red flags at the epa after an environmental scientist said a tom-level employee at the agency tried to influence her congressional testimony. stick around.
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we're back with our earth matters series. the environmental protection agency has raised some eyebrows with changes it's made under the trump administration. back in april, climate information was wiped off the epa website saying it needs to reflect the approach of new leadership. and last month, half of the scientists who used to provide guidance on air and water quality were fired from the agency. now scott pruitt is saying the epa's decision may have affected his decision to not ban a harmful pesticide. cnn's rene marsh has more. >> reporter: the environmental protection agency with administrator scott pruitt at the helm is under the microscope with agency talks who feel the agency and their leader have overstepped their bounds. >> the science must be independent of politics and must be robust. >> reporter: last month, environmental scientist and retired professor testified on
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capitol hill. e-mails obtained by cnn show epa administrator scott pruitt's chief of staff, ryan jackson pushed to influence her testimony. >> my perspectives and statements are mine alone. >> reporter: the retired professor is also the chairwoman of the epa's science review board that plays a crucial role in the work the agency does. epa dismissed about 8 of 19 scientists on the board two weeks before the congressional hearing. e-mails show that jackson pushed for the professor's dismissal. saying attached are talking points which we have used internally to advise what we are simply doing to review applicants." >> whenever words are put in the mouth of somebody by the administration is a red flag for me. >> reporter: swachammer told cnn she felt uncomfortable with what the chief of staff was asking of
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her. an anticipate spokeswoman told cnn it is customary for the office of council and the chief of staff to provide guidance for an epa employee testifying in front of congress. and to clarify if they're speak egg as an individual, rather than on behalf of agency. witnesses testifying independently and not on behalf of an agency are supposed to share their own opinions not government talking points. but e-mails show jackson tried to influence the testimony, even after he was told swachacker wou would testify as a private citizen. and it's not the only epa action raising concerns. cnn has learned administrator scott pruitt was scheduled to meet with the ceo of dow company, a company that makes pesticides. >> this is probably the most purposed administration since the founding fathers. >> reporter: the meeting was scheduled just weeks before pruitt reversed course. it's been linked to scientist
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studies in brain defects in children. it's been a pesticide used since 1965 pruitt said its impact remains unresolved. >> when an agency seems to be talking in favor of an industry providing access, even distorting decision making to benefit special interest, that's when you start to get into the question, hey, is this ethical or not. >> reporter: an epa spokeswoman tells cnn that the meeting was cancelled at the last minute and the two only spoke briefly and pesticides were not discussed. dow chemical would not respond for comment. ethics talks are very serious questions about whether these two incidents at the epa are part of a larger problem for disregard of best practices. they believe these merit a closer look and closer scrutiny
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to determine if it was improper, or if there was actual misconduct, jake. >> rene marsh with our earth matters episode. be sure to follow me, me, @theleadcnn. i'll turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room." thanks for watching. happening now, bully pulpit. president trump faces intense backlash over a scathing personal attack on a female news anchor. republican lawmakers are criticizing his tweets and asking the president to show more respect and civility, will he listen? meeting putin. president trump is set to meet with russian president vladimir putin at the g20 summit next week. but what message will he deliver. i'll talk to hillary clinton's campaign manager. >> following money, new sa