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nions ] [ mooing sound ] show me unicorns. [ click noise for tv ] ahhh! that works too. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. see despicable me 3. in theaters in june. happening now, breaking news. hospital shooting inside a new york city hospital as a gunman goes on a rampage, wounding multiple people. at least two people, including the gunman, are dead, and there's no information about the victims and the suspect coming in right now. white house threat. two tv hosts are accusing the trump team of being threatened if they didn't apologize for negative coverage of him. just repeal. president trump now calling for
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a new strategy to repeal now and replace later. he isn't giving up on a new health care plan. and patience is over. president trump declares the u.s. is fed up with the north korea regime, but can kim jong-un working to develop a nuclear weapon that can hit the united states, what will the trump administration do to stop it? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. we're following breaking news. a shooting rampage at a major new york city hospital. police say a gunman who injured multiple people at bronx lebanon hospital has killed himself and that the body of a woman was found nearby. sources tell cnn the shooter was a doctor and former hospital employee. we're also following new developments of president trump's very public feud with msnbc host joe scarborough and
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mik ark mika brezinski. they claim the president threatened them unless they apologize to mr. trump. mr. trump threw a wrench into the process with a tweet that said congress repeal obamacare now without a replacement which he said could come later. the president voicing his frustration with north korea. he said, patience is over with the kim jong-un regime which is aggressively pursuing a nuclear weapon capable of striking the united states. we're covering all of that. much more this hour with our guests including congressman from the affairs committee. first let's get straight to the breaking news, the shooting rampage at a major new york city hospital. we're on the scene at the bronx.
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you're learning new information and should update our viewers. >> reporter: part of that new information, wolf, coming from several law enforcement sources now speaking to cnn confirming that the suspected gunman involved in this case here was, in fact, a doctor at this medical facility now been identified as dr. henry belo. we're waiting a new briefing by investigators in a few moments. here's what we can tell you. it was about 3:00 p.m. eastern time when authorities scrambled to this hospital north of the city to reports of an active shooter. they did eventually find who they believe was the gunman who had died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, and a female, a woman who was also shot and killed nearby. we do understand that there are about five other people that have been confirmed injured, three of them lifted in serious
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condition, but we don't know a whole lot more about that, don't know if they were specifically targeted or possibly even caught in some crossfire. what i can tell you is that a truly impressive police presence here in the bronx right now as heavily armed personnel did arrive here earlier, but that all clear issued a few moments ago here as several of the hospital staff tried to find answers, and so do we. what's interesting here, wolf, as we wait to hear from investigators in a few moments, we witnessed several hospital staff trying to get some information. even from our vantage point behind the police tape, you could see those individuals in lab coats trying to figure out what was happening. we have confirmed a suspected gunman involved in this hospital shooting this afternoon now identified as dr. henry belo, a former doctor at bronx lebanon hospital. this is still a very active and
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fluid situation. >> polo, thanks very much. we'll monitor that briefing while you remain on the scene for us. there is another news this hour of a threat against two tv hosts now embroiled in a bitter public feud with president trump. joe johns is joining us from the white house. joe, the president is on the way to his new jersey golf course right now, but there is a lot of controversy hovering over him. >> reporter: that's absolutely right, wolf. it was felt here at the white house, too. there is a big meeting here today of two presidents both new to the job, and the topic could have been all about the global challenges in the korean peninsula. but instead, for the second straight day, the president's mean tweets kept getting in the way. the president's oval office meeting with the south korean president aimed at focusing on escalating tensions with north
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korea and. overshadowed by two msnbc hosts, the president tweeted, watched low rated morning joe for first time in a long time. fake news. he called me to stop a national enquirer article. i said no. bad show. it was the white house who offered for the president to use his influence to quash a story about the couple in exchange for mea culpa. >> they said if you call the president up and apologize for your coverage, then he will pick up the phone and basically spike the story. >> reporter: a white house official confirms scarborough did speak with trump's son-in-law jared kushner but denied there was ever any offer of a quid pro quo. the president also throwing a twitter curveball into the
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closed senate negotiations of health care reform but saying let's simply repeal a health care plan. he said, if republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. >> we're going to do it simultaneously, it will be just fine. we're not going to have a two-day period and we're not going to have a two-year period where there's nothing. it will be repealed and replaced. >> reporter: and irritating republicans on the hill by appearing to give in to demands from conservatives while negotiations are ongoing. but the white house says this. >> the primary focus is repeal and replace through the current senate legislation that is being discussed. >> president trump also preparing for his second foreign trip with a potentially historic meeting with russian president vladimir putin in germany next week. >> if putin likes donald trump,
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i consider that an asset, not a liability. >> reporter: mr. trump's ongoing refusal to criticize openly leading people to wonder how he'll handle the ongoing situation in syria and ukraine. while the two leaders have a lot of substance, they could in theory talks about the way this looks. this will also be important, too. senior administration officials have been paying a lot of attention to the objects of a trump-putin meeting, especially in light of the investigation into russian interference in the last election. wolf? >> joe johns reporting for us at the white house. thanks very much. republican congressman ted yoro, member of the foreign affairs committee. ted, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. good to be here. >> let's first get your reaction of the tweets attacking mik mika brzezinski about her
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appearance. many have simply told the president to cut out his use of twitter. do you agree? >> it's the first amendment. how he communicates is up to him. it's not what i would do -- excuse me, my piece fell out. it's not what i would do. if he would follow his own advice and use pen and paper, he would be better off. i'm going to leave it at that. >> he said, she was bleeding badly from a facelift. he really went after her personal appearance. is that appropriate for a president of the united states? >> wolf, like i said, it's not something i would do. you know, we've got so many different major things going on in the world, whether it's north korea, whether it's china, whether it's the negotiations of south korea that he announced today on a new trade deal that he would like to renegotiate, so i think we should really focus on that, and you guys in the press could help. of course, there is plenty of
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fodder out there, if we focused on these things, tax reform, people things really care about, the other stuff is a made for tv reality show, as far as i'm concerned. >> the white house said those tweets are official white house statements coming from the president of the united states. we didn't write those tweets, the president himself wrote those tweets and the white house has publicly said, those are official statements from the president. the president says that, and those are official statements. we can't ignore it, right? >> you can't ignore it, and they're going to be history from here on out. there is going to be a legacy remembered on these kinds of things? >> it one thing for a private person to fweet like that, it's another thing if you're the commander in chief, of the united states. . later next week during the g-20
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summit in germany, the president is hesitating to confront president putin. do you think president trump will approach president putin on this issue? >> we have to mind our own house in that. but what i think you'll see more focus on is syria, the baltic states, crimea and then helping with north korea. >> because the president, as you know, did not bring up election meddling when he met with the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. that subject was not brought up by the president. should he raise the issue, a warning to the russian president, that if he continues to interfere in u.s. democracy,
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the u.s. elections, you will pay a heavy price to that? >> i think it's okay to put a warning out there, but let the investigations go forward. i think you'll see a lot of this. and all of the allegations of the trump white house colluding with russia, it's going down a rabbit hole and there is no rabbit there. it's safer to focus on things like north korea, and that's really where we focus on. >> president trump severely criticized president obama for not doing enough after he learned last summer that russia was directly interfering in the u.s. presidential election. that was president trump who criticized president obama. so now president trump has appear opportunity, when he meets with putin next week, to do what had.
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. president obama knew about this back in august and chose not to bring up anything, so i want the investigation to really go to why -- if a commander in chief knew this was happening and did not respond, i think that's cause for concern for all america americans, a foreign country to hack into our election process. >> congressman, you know that in early october of last year, the director of national intelligence, the secretary of homeland security, this is october 7th, 2016, issued a statement, a lengthy statement with this quote: the u.s. intelligence community is confident that the russian government directed the recent compromise of e-mails from u.s. persons and institutions, including from u.s. political organizations. the statement added, we believe based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts that only russia's officials
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could have authorized these activities. do you accept that u.s. intelligence community conclusion? >> if i hadn't read the briefing, i read that in the paper. i want to wait to see the complete briefing. >> this is what the intelligence community put out. they put out a more substantive creating an even more unique. you're raising similar questions of the president, because he doesn't seem. >> i read that report early on and it was a very vague report of i think you did this. it wasn't a 100% conclusive report of, yes, you did this. again, like you brought up and have read into our servers, keep
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in mind hillary clinton kept an unsecured server in her presence with no security. there is no telling where this will go. >> i just want to be precise. the u.s. intelligence community did conclude with a very high degree of confidence that it was russia. they also concluded nit was putn personally who authorized it, though they said only russia's seniormost officials could have authorized these communities, subsequently said it was putin. that's why i'm saying should the president raise this with putin and a severe warning with him, stop it, don't do it again. by the way, we showed some live pictures of the president in new jersey. the president arrived from new jersey and will be spending the weekend in his country club up there as well. you see the president and the first lady arriving in new jersey for the weekend. congressman, there is a lot more we need to discuss. i want to take a quick break. we'll resume our conversation
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at . we're back with the republican congressman of the foreign affairs committee. we're talking about the struggle of the republicans to pass a health care bill. congressman, i want you to stand by for a moment. we're getting new information from ryan nobles on capitol hill. the president is now touting perhaps an alternative plan repealing obamacare now without necessarily replacing it right away? what are you hearing? >> this is an about-face for the president. he actually rejected this idea shortly after being elected and
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again after he was inaugerated in january, but this is what he said, quote, if republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. it seems this tweet by the president this morning was calculated, and he was working in concert with republican senator ben sash because sash showed up not long after this tweet went out and said the following. >> if we don't get this resolved by monday of next week, july 10, if there isn't a combined repeal and replace plan, i'm writing a letter to the president this morning to urge him to call on a separation of them. let's do as much repeal as we can and stay here and work on replace separate. >> there is no doubt that this complicates the situation for those republicans who have been fiercely negotiating some sort of a deal to both repeal and replace obamacare simultaneously. listen to what one senior gop
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said to our phil mattingly. they said, we did this dance six months ago. we've litigated repeal, delay, replace thoroughly. the president spoke against it. this all might be more helpful if we weren't in the late stages of negotiations. wolf, there aren't a whole lot of senators rushing behind this plan right now. rand paul of kentucky, who has been known from the beginning of this is behind it, but now we're hearing from house members. mark meadows from the freedom caucus was originally opposed to the idea of separating the two, he also endorsing this plan. wolf, when you're in a situation where you have two sides of the republican party trying to come together, this is a situation that could potentially drive them further apart. >> ryan nobles up on capitol hill, thank you very much. i want to the go back to congressman yoho, get his reaction. congressman, would you vote for a repeal bill without including in it a replacement?
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>> i would go back up to washington right now if i had that opportunity. that's what we tried to do from the get-go. that's the thing we need to do. get rid of the affordable care act 100% and bury it and start over with bipartisan measures that we can come together as a congress, not as republicans and democrats, and do what's right for the american people. that's the best thing to do. >> but you understand, i'm sure there are some of the obamacare benefits that would simply go away if you repealed the whole thing. for example, preexisting conditions allowing children up to 26 to stay on their parents' health care plan. there are certain things about obamacare that you like that would disappear if you repealed it and didn't have a replacement. >> absolutely not, because mo brooks put out a bill that i signed on to that would become effective of january 2018. we can move that date. there is no hard date for everything to go away. maintain what we have now and get the replacements in there.
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the biggest thing is open up the insurance market prior to obamacare. we had 85% of americans getting insurance outside of that, 15% didn't. fixes for the 15% is what we need to do. it doesn't necessarily mean it goes away. >> congressman, that's not what you and the house of representatives passed and that's not what's before the senators right now. >> i agree. but remember, we're the ones, the members of the freedom caucus, stood strong until they paused that bill and we got as much as we can. at some point you're either stuck with 100% of the affordable care act, or you can get 80 yards down the field. and we took that, hoping that the senate would do something. if they don't get rid of that, rest assured that both sides of the aisle want preexisting conditions. prior to the affordable care act, children could stay on their parents' health insurance policy until the age of 26
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provided they were going to school. those things were already there. there are some things that we can agree on, but if we start with 100% repeal, it's off the table, and then we don't have to worry about subsidies or arguing how much you're going to put in there or what kind of superfund you're going to have for opioids. let's fix health care so that the american people have quality care as an affordable price and then incentivize people to do the things you want. the health savings account that were in the senate plan where you could increase the amount of that and then take that money to buy your own health insurance, not the government. >> as you know, congressman, the president promised repeatedly throughout the campaign that his plan would cover everyone, there would be no cuts to medicaid at all. how is your house plan anything other than a betrayal of his promise? >> wolf, everybody in america had access to health care. you know, whether it was through
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a community health care clinic or if it was showing up at the er. those things need to be reformed, the emergency room is the most expensive way to get health care, but there are things in place where people had health care already or access to health care. we can reform this. and again, i want to take you back to the affordable care act. 85% of americans had health insurance either on their own or through their employer. let's go back to that model and fix it for the 15%. in the meantime put more pressure, like steve king's bill that just came out, patient protection act, where it's going after tort reform, and put pressure on the insurance companies and pharmaceuticals to have drug prices in line where they need to be and not astronomical. >> congressman ted yoho, thanks for joining us. >> you, too. thank you. >> and a nice fourth of july for you as well. coming up, we'll have much more of the public feud
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of what scarborough and brzezinski are alleging? >> some claim maybe there is an extortion claim here. an apology is not really a thing of value so nothing will be really applicable. what this is is a government official lashing out at a news team. if he lashes out about a public figure, like these media figures in question, he might have libel issues. >> they're pushing back. what are your sources telling you? >> reporter: i spoke to a source earlier this afternoon that said joe scarborough did call jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, about this national enquirer story, and jared kushner told scarborough to call the president. there was no offer of a quid pro quo, in other words, if you soften your cover of us, we'll
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do something about this story. but wolf, it just goes to show you how there is a perception out there that perhaps you could go to the white house and talk to the president about doing something about a national enquirer story. i just can't imagine in any universe where that is normal. we've obviously never seen a president who is capable of doing something like that before, and as you saw earlier today, the president tweeted that scarborough called him and that the president said he told scarborough he would not change the story or call the national enquirer to which joe scarborough said that was a lie. it's just another example of how we're not really in normal times when it comes to the current occupant of the oval office. >> and the tweet that jim was referring to, watched low rated morning joe for the first time in a long time. fake news. he called me to stop the national enquirer to starticle.
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i said no. bad show. >> this is how he runs an office. if there's anyone who thinks he's changed -- somebody thought this was an old tweet. they thought he retweeted it and it caught fire again. no. this was yesterday. he's in different. and there are moments where he will give a speech, he's talking about policy, but at his core, he is this person that can't let things go, thin skinned and takes offense at something that tv hosts say on the television and won't let it go. >> yeah. i want to show you this poll, david. this was a fox news poll taken before this latest round of tweets. do tweets help or hurt president trump accomplish his agenda? hurt 71%, help 17%. we know this is a president who
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does look at polls. >> i just want to know what the 17% are thinking. can you think of anything where his tweeting actually pushed forward anything. i can't think of a single instance where something he was pushing has actually been helped by one of his tweets. it's usually a distraction. for him it's a strategic distraction in some cases where other news is bad for him. >> you know, jim, the white house defended his recent attacks on the news media. listen to kellyanne conway. she was on abc news this morning. >> it doesn't help the american people to have a president covered in this light. i'm sorry, it's neither productive or patriotic. >> she says it's neither productive nor patriotic. what's not patriotic for the ne news media to do its job? >> wolf, this is just another example of the white house to go after the news media. for kellyanne conway to say the
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reporters are being unpatriotic because they're asking questions, i think that's a really regrettable statement. i bet it's a statement she would like to have back if she had the chance. i don't want to take up too much of our time, but we had off-camera briefings. we had the president tweeting and going after mika brzezinski. we had the white house deputy press secretary, sarah huckabee sanders, suggesting to americans that they watch these videos on line where people are going after cnn employees and trying to get them to say something off the cuff that would be damaging to this company, and i guess damaging to journalists overall. it almost feels like a hunting of journalists that's being advocated by this white house. and i think it's terribly damaging to american confidence in the first amendment, american confidence in the news media. the only thing we can hope for, wolf, when we hear these kinds of comments is that the american public will finally get sick and tired of this and really rally to our side. i do think that's going to come.
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>> david, you write for the "washington post." i'm sure you've gotten plenty of criticism. all of us have gotten plenty of criticism. how should the white house react to this? because clearly they're not reacting the way you want them to or i want them to. >> i don't want to tell the white house what to do. they have to play their own game and do their own thing. what i want is for them to answer their own question. i think they can help themselves by answering the questions that are asked. they have a story to tell, facts on their side. answer our questions. my experience is that often they don't answer at all or they answer with a spin and not a real answer. if they do answer, they say, we're doing great things, you just don't cover it. tell us. >> you had a great story this week about the fake time magazine news cover showing up in some of the company hotels? >> yes, there was a fake time magazine cover that had trump on the cover that never existed?
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i asked the white house, a, is this hanging up in the white house? or did donald trump not know this was a fake when he hung it on the wall? they didn't answer either question and told me they don't answer on the decor of the trump golf club. >> that's decor? everybody stand by, we'll take a quick break and be right back. the mercedes-benz summer event. get to your dealer today for incredible once-a-season offers, and start firing up those grilles. lease the gle350 for $579 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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specialist. jim acosta, you're at the white house. the president surprised all of us with a tweet on health care. let me read it for our viewers. if republican senators are unable to pass what they're working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. that represents a change in what the president's position has been. >> that's right. he said all along we're going to repeal and replace at the same time. as a matter of fact, he even said out on the campaign trail it's going to be easy to do it. of course now he knows that's not the case anymore. but he seems to be following what some republicans are saying on capitol hill are saying, that we should have repeal come first, perhaps as a one-year dateline on it, and then after that one year is up, we try to do a replace. the problem with that, wolf, is that it sets up sort of a health care cliff, sort of like the fiscal cliff, where if they don't replace obamacare within that one-year time frame, i guess people's health care would get taken away all of a sudden or they would have a very difficult time perhaps not
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getting those subsidies anymore in terms of obtaining health care. but the white house was asked about this, and they said, listen, we're looking at a lot of options. this is one of those options. but at the moment the president's thinking has not changed, he still wants to do repeal and replace at the same time. >> jackie, does this have any chance of succeeding? >> mitch mcconnell is good. i don't know that he's that good, and it seems like they're having trouble passing a bill that is not, that is nowhere near a full repeal of obamacare. and you're not going to get any moderates to -- people who are up for reelection to vote for this. it would be -- you wouldn't have a problem with two, you would have a problem with quite a few more that care about the reelection. also, let's not forget how good congress is at meeting deadlines. oh, wait, they're really terrible and they like to push it up and sometimes they miss them. so there is no guarantee that this would actually happen at the end of the day. >> david, if there were a clean
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repeal without a replacement bill, the cbo says 18 million americans would be uninsured in the first year alone, 18 million who have insurance now would not have insurance. 32 million would not have insurance by 2026, they say. cbo also says premiums would rise dramatically, because young, healthier people wouldn't be forced to buy insurance. how much of a blunder could this be potentially for the republicans? >> it's harder to imagine anything stupider in that context. you could push people out of their health insurance right away and then only begin to grapple a health insurance that works. exchanges are having trouble, people are pulling out. they're unhappy it creates chaos, creates uncertainty. imagine the amount of uncertainty in so many lives and some employers create by a full repeal. i can't imagine anybody wants to be on board with having caused that. >> let's switch gears. i want to talk about the president's commission on
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election integrity. he once said maybe 3 to 5 million people voted illegally in the presidential election. now this commission chaired by the vice president mike pence, they've written to all the state attorney generals, secretaries of state asking for all information publicly available, including last four digits of social security numbers, residents' first and last names, dates of birth, political party recorded in your state. a statement just released by the mississippi secretary of state gilbert poseman said this. he said he's never gotten a letter but if he got one from the so-called commission, my reply would be they can jump in the gulf of mexico and mississippi is a great state to launch from. mississippi residents should celebrate independence day and their right to protect our citizens by conducting our own electoral process. what is your reaction? >> so they've lost mississippi?
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states often push back to what they call federal overreach into the election. we saw this during the 2016 election when obama actually offered to voluntarily help as what they thought as attempts to hack the election. the other issues they've requested, this highly sensitive data, without any way of attracting voters. the predicate of this entire commission, the claim that there is this widespread voter fraud, just isn't supported by the facts. so if you have secretary of states that are familiar with the basic facts with how these elections are administered in their own states, they're going to push back on that claim rather strongly. >> if this commission on election integrity is lost to the secretary of state of mississippi, you know this commission has serious problems. everyone stand by. coming up, the president's very stern warning to north korea.
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president trump's first white house meeting with south korea's newly ee lelkted president moon came with a message for north korea leader kim jong-un. >> the era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed. many years it has failed, and frankly that patience is over. >> reporter: but now what? how does the trump administration intend to stop north korea's rapidly accelerating effort missile and a nuclear war head that could hit the united states? >> we are closely with south korea, japan as well as partners around the world on a range of diplomatic security and economic measures to protect our allies and our own citizens from this mess known as north korea. >> reporter: the u.s. military remains on alert, watching for any hint of a missile launch or even another underground nuclear
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test. trump initially leaned on china to help stop north korea's weapons testing. >> the relationship developed by president xi and myself i think is outstanding. >> reporter: pressuring chinese president xi to use his influence with kim, but that appears to have changed. the trump administration issued new sanctions against a chinese bank for allegedly helping north korea: then hours later announced a massive u.s. arms sale to taiwan which china views as a renegade province. beijing is furious. >> translator: the u.s. arm sale to taiwan has seriously violated international law and basic principles of international relations. >> reporter: with diplomacy uncertain, u.s. military options for north korea have recently been updated. >> threat is much more immediate now. the president has directed us to prepare a range of options,
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