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it's 11:00 on the east coast, i'm fredricka witfield thank you so much for being with me today. we begin with president trump who in four days will return to the global stage. the highlight moment will be the g-20 summit. trump will gather with the world's most prominent leaders to address a host of international issues, including counterterrorism, trade and climate and of those meetings, that is sure to upstage the rest, trump's face to face with vladimir putin. the two presidents will meet for the first time while the u.s. government continues its investigation into the kremlin's interference in the 2016 election. this morning, president trump sounding off, not about this upcoming trip, but instead, tweeting more vicious attacks on two television cable news hosts. this comes after several days of backlash from his own party, over his first round of disparaging tweets.
meanwhile, the effort to repeal and replace obamacare is hanging bay thread. the president's message to the senate -- if they can't get a bill passed, repeal now, replace later. all these distractions have many republicans concerned about the mid-term elections. >> if he can get a couple of these bills across and string a few hits together, then it will be fine in the mid-terms, but we're not there yet. >> right now, president trump is spending the weekend at his golf club in new jersey. and that's where cnn's indicatelan collins is standing by. the president tweeting ahead of the trip, not about health care or the g-20. but instead about cable news posts. >> that's exactly right. though the president sheer at his golf club in new jersey and he should be focusing on his upcoming trip to the g-20 summit, he is instead tweeted for the third day in a row about a television host. saying crazy joe scarborough and
dumb as a rock mika are not bad people. but their low-rated show is dominated by their nbc bosses. too bad! now donald trump has drawn criticism from republicans and democrats alike after he personally insulted brzezinski on twitter thursday. many of them say he should be focused on his agenda, not insulting television personalities. meanwhile, scarborough and brzezinski have both alleged that several white house staffers, including the president's son-in-law, jared kushner, called them to tell them that unless they called the president and begged him to stop it, that the "national enquirer" was going to publish a negative story about them. a white house firm confirmed that scarborough and kushner did speak, but denied that was the nature of the conversation. >> kaitlyn the president shifted his course on health care amid all of this just yesterday, suggesting repeal now, replace later. how much of a curve ball is that for republicans? >> it's a huge curve ball.
while they've been negotiating a bill to repeal and replace the affordable care act, donald trump threw a wrench in the plan yesterday when he suggested on twitter that maybe they should just repeal it now and replace it at a later date. while republicans try to figure out if there's a path forward for repeal and replace, many of them are at home this week on recess and facing tough questions from their constituents. here's what happened to senator bill cassidy when he was at home yesterday. >> -- [ inaudible ] [ applause ] [ crowd saying vote no! vote no! >> you can see this problem isn't goinger in for republicans right now. especially with no vote in sight. fredricka? >> all right, kaitlyn collins, especially this holiday weekend as many of those lawmakers are back in their home bases, meeting with constituents. all right. kaitlyn collins, thank you so
much there in new jersey. let's discuss all of this now with my panel. julian seltzer is a professor at princeton university. david rode is a cnn global affairs analyst and online news director for the "new yorker" and david swerdling is a reporter for the "washington post." president trump is heading abroad while his administration is reeling from a tumultuous week in washington. i want you all to listen to the iraqi prime minister's view of the u.s. >> the overall leadership in the world and america needs to, the americans need to speed up their to get back to their role as an international power, an important international power. >> all right so david rode, one thing to hear from the republicans, and it's another now to hear from iraqi leadership. so is the u.s.' role as an international leader in jeopardy? >> i think it's under question.
there's still time for president trump to sort of right the course here. but you know, early misstep that keep happening. part of the initial travel ban, one of the countries included was iraq. there were iraqi translators and others who had risked their lives protecting and helping american troops. i think the statement by all aw, show that pushing, and the "washington post" had a story this morning about how jared kushner's efforts to sort of broker magically han israeli/palestinian peace accord is not going well. so there needs to be a change of course. >> julian, you've got all of this on the table. the travel ban, you've got partial travel ban. you've got health care, you've got this joe and mika debacle. all of this chaos in washington. the world is watching, it's not this insular activity happening
in the united states. but it could potentially influence how he can gain respect or lose it? >> absolutely. the leaders of many of the nations that will be at this summit are looking at the chaos in the oval office and they see a president who in their mind isn't in full control of the situation. they see how the health care bill fell apart here so they fear him a little less and they have a little less trust when they're going to be in the room this week with him. about what's going to be tweeted. and what kind of stories will shape the u.s. agenda. so i think many of the leaders don't have the same respect or fear of him that they might if he was a different kind of president. >> this g-20 being hosted in hamburg, germany, which happens to be the birthplace of german chancellor angela merkel. she's been speaking out ahead of this summit saying quote, whoever believes the problems of this world can be solved by
isolationism and protectionism is making a tremendous error. so david swerdlick, does this deepen a rift between u.s. and germany, even? >> well fred, i don't know if it deepens a rift, but i think it's another signal that european leaders and merkel is arguably the most important european leader are seeing there's a shift in the way that president trump and the u.s. overall is approaching global affairs and maybe saying she has to step into the breach and make the case for an international order. president trump hasn't backed completely away from the u.s.'s role. but he has you know sort of wobbled, confidence in the nato alliance, he's shifted the way the obama administration did things in the middle east. he's got a very unusual approach toward russia. at least so far. and you have leaders like merkel who lead on the european
continent, who look around and say well someone's got to speak up for this sort of idea that there's a global international order that nato has a role that eu has a role, that the western powers have a role. i think that's what that statement suggests, setting a tone for going into the g-20 meeting. >> there will be discussions about counterterrorism, trade, you know, david rode, president trump however is set to meet face to face with russia's president, vladimir putin that likely to upstage a lot of the other discussions. what does trump need to say to putin? who do you believe will be in the driver's seat of the discussion? >> i mean, the approach in which you hear very loudly from the u.s. congress you know, the senate just voted with over 90 votes for harsher sanctions on russia, is that trump should deliver a very tough message in private to putin. that's what europe wants, they've just extended their own sanctions on russia. but it's not clear that's going to happen. there was a report this week that trump was talking about maybe voluntarily reducing some of the u.s. sanctions on russia in this conversation with putin.
that's not confirmed. but it's just very strange that the president is very tough on mexico, you know, very tough on china now that it hasn't come through and north korea. he's very tough on senators in his own party who don't enact health care reform. but there's this go-soft approach on vladimir putin. and that just plays into this narrative of you know, russia and to be fair to president trump, there is no evidence of collusion yet. that's still being looked at by the special counsel. but it just doesn't make sense to me politically, you know, if he's so easy for him to talk tough, a little bit tougher on russia. but that would help him with this investigation. but he doesn't do that. >> and he's not talking when he tweets, even today. you know about the prelude to all of that. instead it's more about the television hosts you know he's been receiving a lot of the backlash over his tweets. about mika brzezinski and joe scarborough. and a member of his own party. and there have been many, who have been blasting the comments
of president trump. >> that's a tweet that's not even becoming of a city council member. >> i'm not going to defend his tweet. it was ugly. and i personally do hold the president of the united states to a higher standard. >> this is maddening. it's maddeningly frustrating, because it's the beneath the dignity of the president of the united states, or at least it should be. >> none of that apparently has fazed the president. he was again tweeting this morning, saying this, crazy joe scarborough and dumb as a rock mika are not bad people, but their low-rated show is dominated by their nbc bosses. too bad! so does this further you know, aid a divide that is on display between president trump, julian, and members of his own party? >> well look so far, it's not been a very big divide. these kinds of statements have been far and few between. and some people think all of this is sort of distraction by the president, to shift attention away from the failure
of health care, the tensions at the g-20. but i do think he is straining and testing party loyalty as much as any president could. right now, to be tweeting more about this, after the fallout from the last few days, the way it had a real cost on that health care bill, is making many republicans upset. they're going back to their states and their districts, they are hearing it from the right and from the center. and here he is, tweeting about a television show. so think many republicans are quite frustrated privately and a few more are publicly expressing their thoughts. >> so david swerdlick, it seemed as though with his continued tweets today this is kind of like blood sport this is just fun for the president. but then when you hear in a written op-ed by mika and joe, they are talking about possible abuse of power. you know, the threat to going to another publication in order to kind of reveal more about this. so who makes the determination
about whether this is an example of an abuse of power by the president of the united states? >> well a couple of points, fred. first i do think it was appropriate for mika and joe to respond. you know when they're sort of called out or attacked on twitter in that way. and even though we've talked about this a lot over the last couple of days, it bears repeating like everyone else has said, the president's comments were sexist and far beneath the dignity of the presidency. here's the deal with this, i think the president is doing this in a way that serves his interests in this sense. julian hinted at it. there is a cohort of his co-supporters that likes this combative attitude that he has. our cnn colleague wrote a colleague the other day where he was saying part of trump's agenda is nursing all of these grudges that he has. and i think there's something to that. even though as julian said, he's straining relations with his fellow republicans on capitol hill, if you look at poll numbers, rank-and-file republican voters have not left trump. although he has about a 40%
approval rating overall, he has like an 80% approval rating if you look at polls from last week, even though some of them were probably taken before the mika brzezinski tweets. he has about an 80% approval rating among republicans, or maybe even a little higher. that's why he still continues to nurse this narrative of it's him against the media. it's him against the world. because it does play with a certain audience. >> and david rode, you've got five seconds, ten seconds to sum it up? >> i think the tweets are a distraction, it was a very bad week for the white house, health care failed in the senate and he's got a tough week ahead internationally. >> david rode, david swerdlick, thank you all. secretary of state alarmed at a request for personal voter information from a trump panel. why some states are flat-out saying they will not comply with that request. not on my watch are we going to release sensitive voter information data that at best is a waste of taxpayer money.
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allegedly rampant voter fraud, the president's commission wants an ocean of sensitive information about every voter. including the person's full name, address, date of birth, political affiliation, voting, military and criminal records. part of his or her social security number and more. >> states, particularly some democratic blue ones, are pushing back hard. california's flat-out refusing to hand over the information. >> the president's allegations of massive voter fraud are simply not true. >> so is new york, we will not comply and virginia, too. there is no evidence of significant voter fraud. >> some states that went republican read for trump are also balking, including utah, alabama, iowa and wisconsin. they'll hand over only some data and still others are dismissing the whole idea of voter fraud run amuck. >> you might find some illegal activity, but not to the scale
that's been described. >> people that have died ten years ago are voting. illegal immigrants are voting. >> as a candidate, donald trump insisted fraud was a real problem. even after he won the electoral college, he lashed out at news more people voted for hillary clinton. tweeting, i won the popular vote. if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. >> so many things are going on. >> to help steer his commission, he directed kansas secretary of state's chris koboch who calls the state's complaints, complete nonsense. >> we're looking at all forms of voter irregularity, voter intimidation, voter fraud. >> he's zealously hunted vote-cheaters back home for months, yet found less than a dozen provable cases out of a million and a half registered voters. he's a champion for voter i.d. laws. which many skeptics consider a way to suppress minority votes. and he was fined by a federal judge in kansas, just last week
for his conduct in a lawsuit involving voting rights. connecticut state giving secretary kobach's history, we find it very difficult to have confidence in the work of this it commission. >> underlying it all is this fact, there's no credible evidence that there's ever been a widespread voter fraud problem. that's adding clearly to the hesitancy from many of these states. tom foreman, cnn. >> coming up, what's right and wrong with obamacare. the gop's health care bill. former health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius will join us with her take and why she calls the gop effort quote a very cruel war on the poor.
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welcome back. republican lawmakers in the senate vow to continue their fight to repeal and replace obamacare over this week-long fourth of july recess. but as majority leader mitch mcconnell works to craft a bill that will gain support within his ranks. president trump is urging the gop to act now, trump tweeting this friday, if republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and then replace at a later date. end quote. that's a reversal. but deputy press secretary sarah huckabee sanders insists the president has not changed his strategy. >> the president hasn't changed his thinking at all. he's campaigned on, talked about since he was elected. repealing and replacing obamacare, we're still fully committed to pushing through with the senate. at this point. but we're you know, looking at
every possible option of repealing and replacing obamacare. we're still focused on trying to push through where we are and we're going to continue moving forward and making progress on that front. and looking at repealing and replacing obamacare. the bottom line is we're focused on the end product here and that is to repeal and replace obamacare with health care that covers all americans zblfl i'm with kathleen sbebelius, she wa the health and human services secretary during the obama administration. you saw the tweet from the president, calling for repeal now and replace later. what would happen to all the people currently on obamacare if that were indeed to happen? >> well millions of people, 20 million approximately, individuals, would lose the health care they now have for themselves and their families, so rely on to make sure they can
get preventive care, have birth control when they need it. get their kids to the doctor, i guess that what he's saying is it really doesn't matter. if 20 million people, would be totally without coverage once again, which is where we were, fredricka, at the beginning of the debate on the affordable care act. >> if the goal of obamacare was to have affordable accessible care, when you hear the sitting president say repeal now, replace later. what is your belief -- that his goal is at this juncture? is it an issue of health care? is it an issue of branding you know health care? what, what is the goal in your view? >> i think that's a great question, i have no idea what the goal of the president is. i know what candidate trump said over and over again. he said we want health insurance that works for everybody.
we want lower prices, which is what the american public wants. both in their premiums and out of pocket costs. he said he would not touch medica medicaid, the program that's been in place for 52 years, that provides a health safety net for the most vulnerable populations and every state in the country. disabled adults and children. seniors in nursing homes, low income pregnant moms and kids. he promised not to touch that program. the house bill decimates medicaid. would cause 23 million people to lose coverage, raises prices, according to every economist. anybody who is in the market now would pay more, not less. they would pay more deductibles. then the president called that bill mean and turned to the senate. the senate bill in some ways is worse. at least the draft that they got
close to putting on the floor. 22 million people lose coverage. it makes much deeper cuts in this very important medicaid program, not the expansion population. those go away yacht together. the extra help to states to insure the lowest income working adults. but the cuts made in every state in the country, to the underlying medicaid program. would blow up state budgets across america. that's why you have republican governors like brian sandoval of nevada and asa hutchinson in arkansas and john kasich in ohio saying whoa, whoa, we don't think this is a good idea. we think this needs to stop. we need to regroup. so i have no idea what the president means. if you repeal the law, which is the house i would remind you, voted to do 52 or 53 times during the obama administration, without any replacement discussion, if you repeal the
law, 20 million people lose coverage. providers don't get paid. more hospitals will go out of business with ununcompensated care and we will continue to have people who live sicker and die younger than any of our competitive countries around the world. who are investing in their populations' health and wellness, so they can be productive workers. >> so trump's hhs secretary, tom price, says also at the core is the bottom line. the price, and he had this to say about the proposed republican bill. >> the plan will absolutely bring premiums down. you increase competition and choices for individuals. you allow folks to purchase the kind of coverage they want. not the kind that the government forces them to buy. >> is it that simple? does this open up the marketplace? it means there's going to be more competition which means lower rates. >> well more competition is
definitely good. and the white house has intentionally sabotaged the current marketplace. they have done absolutely nothing to tell insurance companies what the rules are. >> what do you mean by that? >> starting at the election and accelerating into the presidency, they refuse to tell insurance companies whether they'll be paid back for $7 billion worth of subsidies that help lower out of pocket costs to the lowerest income americans buying health insurance. so insurance companies don't know about the rules. they told the irs do not enforce the individual mandate. which helps encourage younger and healthier people to come into the market. >> so in a sense -- in a sense that kind of uncertainty has scared off you know, insurance companies? >> no question. not in a sense, every ceo of an insurance company who has left a
market or reluctant to come into a market has said the uncertainty about what the rules are for 2018, the lack of clarity about what is the game going forward, causes us decide that we're not going to file rates baurks we have no idea what it is we need to charge. so i would say competition is great, the white house has done everything to sabotage competition across the country. so has secretary price. and there's a lot that the bully pulpit of the white house and hhs can do to get companies in washington state, just had some bear counties, the insurance commissioner and the governor in that state reached out to several insurers and said we would like you to come into the market. we want to see this be a choice for every citizen in washington state, indeed companies file rates in the bear counties.
that can be done. we did it every year. this is a systematic sabotage, the existing law. they don't have a law to replace the existing law. and millions of people and fredricka, i hear from them all the time. say what's going to happen to me and my family, how do i pay for my chemotherapy treatment? what happens to my child if i lose coverage. and i frankly don't know what you to tell them. i don't know what the end game is for republicans. and they seem to be looking at this as a game. this is life and death for way too many people. >> your overall argument has been, it's not that obamacare has been a failure. but instead, as a framework, but instead, it has been undermined and that has weakened a health care plan that you have long believed in? >> well there's some things that would be helpful to fix.
having the ability to have a balanced risk pool and helping insurance companies who have tomorrow older and sicker people signing up. that was in the original law, not funded by the republicans. it's in both the house and senate bills. it's a great idea. do that. i think we need to take a look at who gets subsidies and more people have said they really need some help. that's a good idea. lower the level of out of pocket costs, do something about drug prices, which every american is complaining about. and is not in the house or senate bill. so there's some definite things that would draw bipartisan sport, could be done, stabilize and make the market more competitive and give people more choices. >> we'll leave it right there, former health and human services secretary, kathleen sebelius, thank you for your time. thank you. staying with the senate's health care bill. one poll out showing only 16% of
americans approval of republicans' efforts to repeal and replace obamacare. a whopping 58% disapprove. more than a quarter said they were unsure. cnn spoke with five republican voters to get their take. and while most of them voted for president trump, not a single one said that they like the senate or house proposals, currently. >> raise your hand if you voted for president trump. do any of you want the house or the senate health care bills to pass and become the law of the land? >> not in its current form. >> i'm not happy with the health care bill that they have so far. i'm not happy with the current health care bill. but i would like to see more free market so people can choose how they want. >> i think he still has a lot to prove. i think i'm one of those republicans that he still has a lot to prove to. you have a republican house, a republican senate and a republican white house, there's no excuse for republicans not to put points on the board. that's where i feel it's almost like a football game. his offense is trying to drive down the field, but keeps having
these penalties and keeps bringing them back. you have to put points on the board, there's no excuse for it. >> sherry, is he right to you as well, josh, is he right? you give the president a b-plus and bill said he's got control, the republican party has control of the white house and congress. and he says they need to put points on the board. they need to get legislation done. >> we do and i agree to his point. we hold the majority in the white house now in congress as well and this is a great time for our president to be an effective leader. to deliver on some of his campaign promises. i'm looking forward to what's to come out of the health care bill. i do think personally, that he should consider reforming it. instead of repealing it. i think there are layers there that ought to be changed. but there are layers that can remain. >> the president's promise was repeal and replace obamacare on day one. >> on day one. >> you don't want to see him do that. it sounds like you want to see him work and republicans in congress work with democrats to
alter obamacare, is that right? >> absolutely. i would love to see our elected officials work together. work across the line for the benefit of the people. we put them into office, they should do what we want. >> they pay your salaries, too. >> absolutely. >> they've had plenty of years to have this health care bill ready to go on day one. they should have done that and they didn't. it's -- i mean it's just -- what you would always say, your typical politicians, not doing what you want them to do. a repeal, i don't think they're actually repealing obamacare. i think this is a reform of obamacare. they're going to call it a repeal. but it's really not a repeal. >> as a republican, does the does the house or senate republican health care proposals help enough americans? are you pleased with either of them? >> no. >> i would like a full repeal, and i would like a free market. >> the health care is not a
republican or democratic issue. it's a -- a human issue. it's a we all need health care. we needed to sustain ourselves, our family, our children. and it's an issue that shouldn't be a partisan issue. >> so was the president, richard, right or wrong to make that a center-point of his campaign, a full repeal and replace of obamacare. >> whether it's right or wrong, think it was a necessary thing to do. >> why? >> we all know that obamacare or the affordable care act is a disaster at this point in time. premiums have increased, in some states you all have one, maybe sometimes two health insurance companies participating. it is on the road to disaster. it's imploding. >> my question was he wrong to promise a full repeal and replace? should he have said, we're going to fix this? >> i think the way the affordable care act was set up, it was doomed to fail. so it needed to be replaced.
so no, i would not say he was wrong in saying that it needs to be replaced. >> are republicans going to get this thing done? >> if they don't get this thing done, the president has said he's going to move on. i think what's going to happen is perhaps we can actually have republicans and democrats working together. >> you mean on -- >> on health care. >> democrats -- >> it sounds like you want the republican versions in the house and senate to fail? >> i don't agree with the versions as they are right now. i don't think it does enough? >> i think they need to be negotiated. they put something together quickly to get it on the table. they need 0 sit down now with democrats and republicans, to me it doesn't matter whether they repeal and replace or fix. because it doesn't matter what you replace the affordable health care act with. you're going to have to have some of the provisions of obamacare to make it work. but get it done. i retired at age 62. i tried to get health insurance, after i roo he tired.
because i had to wait until 65 to get medicare. to get the same benefits that i was getting while i was working and paying $40 a month for, was going to cost me $1802 a month. i couldn't afford that i wept for a year and a half as a diabetic with no health care. i just didn't go to the doctor. >> as republicans raise your hand, if you -- want to see democrats and republicans work together on this thing. and come up with something different than the senate and the house have put forth? >> i think that's an easy one there. >> that's a no brainer. >> this is the president that wrote "the art of the deal." get in and make a deal. pull people together just like you did when you belt buildings all over the world. bring people to the table and do something. >> you think president trump should be injecting himself more into? >> well he owns this issue, right? emade this a focal point. made this a focal point in his campaign. he's using the bully pulpit to push for it. i think it's a wake-up call for
him as well. >> if he can't get it done. if the senate and the house can't get it done, on health care, what does that say? >> i mean i just think it's a big defeat. >> i don't think that's a defeat for the president. i don't think that's a defeat for the president, i think that is a defeat for congress. >> our thanks to poppy harlow there and the voters and we will be right back. odness, hold on to your tiara kind of day. get 24/7 digestive support, with align. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand. also in kids chewables. what in real time?stomer insights from the data wait, our data center and our clouds can't connect? michael, can we get this data to...?
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are willing to say about this case. >> the evidence against christensen is really striking. now as you said, zhang is last seen getting in that black saturn extra. authorities were able to quickly zero in on christianson. they found the car with characteristics similar you see in the surveillance video, a sunroof and a cracked front passenger hubcap. when they searched the car, they found the passenger seat and the car were cleaned more diligently than other areas of the car. and the next step for authorities is they obtain chrissianson's phone. a forensic search showed he had visited websites like "abduction 101" with threads, "perfect abduction fantasy" "planning and kidnapping." the ult matt mat break came in the case came on thursday while under surveillance by the fbi christianson was captured in an audio recording explaining to someone, we don't know who, but
explaining how he kidnapped ying ying, how he took her to his apartment and held her there. >> you spoke to her family members, a majority of them are abroad, but were in town because they're worried sick over her. >> her father and boyfriend travelled from china about two weeks ago to illinois. they told me they weren't going back home to china without her. there was a tremendous message of hope from them as we talked to them through a translator. >> the family hopes that the kidnappers would not hurt her. and knowing she, she is really well loved. by the families and friends. just let her go. let her come back. that as soon as possible. >> now little did the family know on the same day that i spoke with them, police coming
to the conclusion, that yingying is no longer alive. >> heartbreaking. thanks so much, kaylee, appreciate it. we'll be right back. we send our kids out into the world, full of hope. and we don't want something like meningitis b getting in their way. meningococcal group b disease, or meningitis b, is real. bexsero is a vaccine to help prevent meningitis b in 10 to 25 year olds. even if meningitis b is uncommon, that's not a chance we're willing to take. meningitis b is different from the meningitis most teens were probably vaccinated against when younger. we're getting the word out against meningitis b. our teens are getting bexsero. bexsero should not be given if you had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose.
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welcome back. an intensifying crisis in venezuela. the death toll from ongoing clashes between anti-government protesters and police has just risen to 83. and more protests are schedule for today. crowds accusing the government of a power grab have take on the streets for the last three months now. there is also the deepening economic crisis. a drop in oil prices has put venezuela in a cash crunch and lines for food are also very long and many times people come away with nothing because of the shornls after standing in those long lines. we find allayla santiago on the border with bolivia and
venezuela with more on the state of affairs there. leila? >> reporter: well, bridget, when you take that political unrest, the economic instability, add to that the highest inflation rates in the world, as well as price controls from the government and you'll get what you see behind me. tens of thousands of people from venezuela crossing into colombia just to get very basic items. we actually stopped a few people who were coming in from venezuela and we were seeing what they were taking in suitcases to get back into venezuela and they had such basic items. i'm talking about cooking oil, flour, bread, garlic, bananas. very basic items for survival. so as tens of thousands of people every single day cross into colombia, this is almost just like a sense of relief from that political unrest and that
economic instability for them to get very basic needs to survive, basic supplies that will get them through for a week or a month at a time. while things in venezuela continue in chaos. oppositions forces and the government going back and forth. fredricka? >> so, leila, are there any express concerns that those border crossings could close and people would not be able to cross the border in order to get those basic essentials? >> reporter: that's certainly a concern that people have talked about here. and it has happened in the past from the venezuela side at times the government has shut down this part of the border where we are right now. there are other krotszin crossis in other parts of colombia, venezuela, when that happens you start to see people get more desperate. i spoke to a man who was crossing into colombia, 2 years
old, just to get basic medicine for his 85-year-old grandmother and he says if this is not available, he can't get it in venezuela. >> leila santiago on the border there between venezuela and colombia, thank you vo much. keep us posted. we'll be right back. managing blood sugar is not a marathon. it's a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. you're searching for something. like the perfect deal... ...on the perfect hotel. so wouldn't it be perfect if there was a single site where you could find the right hotel for you at the best price? there is. because tripadvisor now compares prices from over 200 booking sites... ...to save you up to 30%... ...on the hotel you want. trust this bird's words. tripadvisor. the latest reviews. the lowest prices.
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