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kid on that team as well. >> absolutely. that is a lesson they will carry with them the rest of their lives. it's time now for "newsroom" with fredricka whitfield. >> have a great holiday day. we'll consider this part of the holiday. >> indeed. yes, we are. fredricka whitfield in for poppy and john. high-stakes week for president trump on the world stage. this morning it appears he knows it before jetting off to the g20 summit in germany where he will have a face-to-face meeting with vladimir putin. this hour he is speaking with the leaders of germany, italy and he has tweeted out as much. these calls come on the heels of conversations with the leaders of the gulf states yesterday as well. but all eyes will be on that trump/putin meeting later on this week. officials telling cnn that the president is not expected to talk about russia's meddling in
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the u.s. elections. instead he will focus on syria and ukraine. all hugely important topics but a domestic controversy overshadowing all of this. his escalating twitter feud with the media. attack on msnbc host mika brzezinski. we go to the white house, shall we? we find suzanne malveaux. the president trying to focus on the business of the presidency, but this is overshadowing a lot, isn't it? >> quite a bit of attention paid to it over the weekend and really into the week here. we know that he is making those critical calls at bedminster and will return to the white house late today, hosting military families for the july 4th celebrations tomorrow. it was over the holiday weekend, fred, that he used the bully pulpit not to push forward
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republican health care legislation or other polishes but rather to ramp up the attack s on the media. >> the fake media is trying to silence us. but we will not let them. >> president trump escalating his ongoing war against the press, tweeting out this doctored video of himself, pummeling a man with an edited cnn logo over his face. the video drawing sharp, widespread condemnation. >> it is an incitement to violence. >> it is very disturbing. there's nothing lighthearted about it whatsoever. >> we need to protect freedom of the press. there is a responsibility on the part of everyone, including the president of the united states. >> homeland security adviser thomas bossert first shown the video on abc, insisting the president is not inciting violence. >> i think no one would perceive that as a threat. i hope they don't. i think he is beaten up in a way
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on cable platforms that he has a right to respond to. >> the president tweeth a barrage of anti-media attacks over the holiday weekend and defending his use of social media as modern day presidential. trump even unleashing a verbal tirade at an event meant to honor america's veterans ahead of the fourth of july. >> the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house. but i'm president and they're not. >> this, with the white house already on defense for the president's crude attacks on two msnbc hosts last week. >> the president, in no way, form or fashion, has ever promoted or encouraged violence. if anything, quite the contrary. >> cnn responding to directly to the president's latest attack. it is a sad day when the president of the united states encourages violence against reporters. clearly, sarah huckabee sanders lied when she said the president
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had never done so. instead of preparing for his overseas trip, first meeting with vladimir putin, dealing with north korea and working on his health care bill, he is involved in juvenile behavior, far below the dignity of his office. we will keep doing our jobs. he should start doing his. health and human services secretary tom price insisting the president's tweeting doesn't detract from the health care battle. >> the fact of the matter is that he can do more than one thing at a time. >> reporter: but some republicans saying the behavior could have serious consequences. >> people are now begging the president not to do this and, you know, he ought to stop doing it. >> there's an important distinction to draw between bad stories or crappy coverage and the right that citizens have to argue about that and complain about that. and trying to weaponize distrust. >> the president, of course, has a critically important and busy week ahead, fred. north korea continues to provoke the president, putting in calls to leaders of south korea, china
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and japan ahead of personal meetings with them later in the week. on wednesday is when he leaves for poland. he will be having a quick trip there and then on thursday to the g20 summit. that is where he is going to be having those critical sidebar meetings, include iing with the russian president, vladimir putin. fred? >> suzanne malveaux at the white house. april ryan, cnn political analyst and white house correspondent for american urban radio networks, paul singer, washington correspondent for "usa today" and kate burns for real clear politics. good to see all of you. april, to you first. the president is tweeting about his discussions with italy, germany and france. he talked to saudi arabia also yesterday and said interesting things are happening. so, is this the president showing that he is getting back on track? >> fredricka, we have no clue. one minute he may be very
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traditionally presidential, talking about his phone calls. and, you know, we have readouts from some other calls he had over the weekend as well. but then, you know, he gets into this tirade or this tangent, going into tweeting about cnn fighting, a wrestling match. or talking about joe and mika and, you know, talking against mika brzezinski. we just don't know. one minute it's one way. the next it's the other. the american public really wants to see -- what we're hearing from the american public they really want to see a president who is doing the people's business. and i don't believe many people are talking about the tweets. they want to hear what's going on with foreign policy, domestically. there's a lot at stake, a lot is on the table. >> so, paul, you wrote that this president tweets more about the media than about anything else. his supporters actually celebrate this kind of transparency. in fact, yesterday i spoke with
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the republican congressman lee zeldan who had this to say about the use of twitter for this president. >> about the president of the united states, i believe he has an effective tool through social media to be able to communicate with the american public, talk about what you're working on, the challenges that are ahead. >> so what was the message today? what was the message today then? >> i'm not here to defend the tweet that was there this morning. so, that's why i'm giving the answer that there is a way for the president to be able to raise his game. but there is a -- i'm not -- it's not a changing of direction. we all need to do more to be able to raise our game. >> so, paul when it's a distraction, is this eroding the president's clout on big things like health care and his upcoming g20 summit? >> trump thrives in opposition. he wins -- that is, he won the
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presidency -- in part because -- in large part because it was an us versus them campaign. he needs to have a "them" that he can compare "us" to. at the moment, the media is a great distraction for him. because at the moment we're in a fairly, god bless, fairly safe time. we haven't been talk tacked in our country by terrorists recently. the "them" instead of being a foreign terrorist, now becomes the media. we are basically foreigners to most of america anyway. they think we're bad people. this works for donald trump. this works for his base. >> interesting. okay. so "them," let's stay with that then, kaitlyn. if them could be russia, the president will be meeting with vladimir putin face-to-face this week. it will be maybe, in part, impromptu. the white house says they'll be talking about syria and ukraine. is it a missed opportunity for the president to talk about russia as, you know, us versus
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them, russia meddling in u.s. elections? mistake not to go there? >> that is top of mind in congress right now as they're investigating russian meddling in the election. the president hat not acknowledged to the extent that lawmakers have, that russia meddled in the elections. the key here, too, there is a concern about what exactly the president will say in that one-on-one meeting. he came under scrutiny for meeting with russian officials in the oval office. reportedly sharing classified information that led to -- >> in a photograph looking very jovial. >> exactly. >> looked happy to be with each other. >> exactly. that kind of conversation happening. main bottom line here is that this is the first meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin. the body language will be very telling. two men on this world stage for the first time meeting face to face. >> now for some other fourth of
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july kind of fire works, this coming from the new jersey governor chris christie, state approximate beaches off limits, closed to everyone except he and his family, you guys. april, christie's office tried to divert attention saying the governor was not sunbathing. you look at this picture with he and the family there on the beach. are people owed a better explanation coming directly from the governor? >> yes. new jersey is having some financial issues. and if the governor says, you know, things are shut down and then he goes out to a beach that's shut down with his own family, that does not bode well. he is enjoying the beach when others cannot. yes, he has his own security and maybe he could use the piece i'm protected. they will watch and make sure we're okay, his protective detail. still, nonetheless, it's -- >> a message was sent. >> it's hipoypocrisy.
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it goes with his friendship with donald trump, they do what they want and leave the rest on the floor and let it fall where it may. >> do you see those parallels and commonalities in these many conversations about elected office, abuse of powers and this potentially sx lly sxem lly exe >> this is chris christie in the yolo phase. >> what is yolo? >> you only live once. >> oh. i was like what does that mean? >> he is just going to -- this is chris christie in his waning days in public life and, frankly, i don't think he cares what we think. he's going to go to the beach. >> ouch. caitlyn, yolo. >> thank you, paul, for borrow ing one of the millennials' favorite phrases. i agree with that. chris christie is sitting on a
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15% approval rating right now. >> to that he said i don't care. >> exactly, to paul's point. what's interesting about christie, remember, he was elected by a large margin, re-elected in a blue state, was considered to be part of the republicans' way to win in blue states. talk about a fall from grace. we saw that over the course of the 2016 campaign when he came out for donald trump in terms of the way in which the republican party responded to him doing that. we'll see what kind of effect this has on his poll numbers. it's hard to see how you can drop lower than 15%. >> april, you want to punctuate this? >> yolo is interesting. he has nothing to lose. you're right. 15% approval rating. he doesn't care, apparently. the bottom line is, we are now in an era where presidents think that they can do whatever -- presidents or elected officials think they can do whatever and it's okay. and the american public is allowing it. the question is, how much of a
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disease will the public have with this and other things? it only changes when people speak up. >> april ryan, paul singer, caitlyn huey-burns, thank you so much. republican senators head home to try to sell their health care plan. are they on the same page about repealing and replacing obamacare? will it be a tough pill for voters to swallow? plus, tax the rich? top white house aide that could cut taxes for the working class but does it have the president's support? for your heart... your joints... or your digestion... so why wouldn't you take something for the most important part of you... your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember.
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if we can't, though, there's no reason to walk away. we should do repeal with a delay. let's be clear. i don't want to see anybody thrown off the coverage they have now. i would want a delay so we could get straight to work. >> big problem, the repeal then replace plan is not on the table for senator mitch mcconnell. one senate democrat is proclaiming his willingness to work with president trump. >> he is our president. and i want him to succeed. i want him to know there are democrats that want to work with him. but right now, they can't even repeal it. they can't get 50 votes to repeal it because somebody is getting hurt more than what they're willing to sign on to. then look at some of us. work with us democrats who are willing to meet you in the middle. i'm looking everywhere i can to work with them. and work with my president in trying to make things better. >> all right. joining me now to discuss all of this, democratic congressman ted deutsch of florida.
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welcome and happy holiday weekend. >> thanks. same to you, fred. >> have you been receiving an earful from your constituents while home? >> sure. absolutely. and there is just such anger over the way that this health care bill was done. the senate crafted this thing in private behind closed doors. then they sprung it on the american public. it's little wonder they didn't want people to know. it would cut 22 million people off from access to health care. it guts medicaid by 35%. it's going to result in people being kicked out of nursing homes. it's also going to result in people who desperately need treatment for opioid addiction, not being able to get that treatment and do away with the essential health benefits that the affordable care act provides. this is a terrible bill. and the suggestion that somehow we would be better off if we simply cast aside the affordable care act altogether and put insurance companies back in charge of our health care, that's even worse.
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so, yes, i've heard a lot about it. people don't like it. there's a reason that it's so incredibly unpopular. >> so then, what do you say to your constituents who say something needs to be done to repair, fix obamacare, even those who say replace it all together. are you in step with democratic senator manchin who says he wants to see this president succeed, he wants to find other democrats who are willing to assist in shaping a new plan. are you there? >> well, fred, i have been saying for years that instead of doing what we have been doing in congress, which is having these meaningless votes to repeal obamacare, we should have been working to strengthen it. and i still think the goal has to be to strengthen it to provide more competition, to bring down costs. there are a whole host of ways we can do that but only if there's a willingness on the part of republican leadership to
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actually work to accomplish that instead of trying to live up to some campaign promise to repeal obamacare, a partisan stunt that would cost millions of americans their access to health care. >> so, it's your belief that this president and some members of congress are too hung up on repealing, you know, as opposed to working on how to improve the existing plan? >> well, i don't think there's any question about that. all you need to look at is that the dozens of times we've had votes to repeal the affordable care act when president obama was president, when we could have been working together to strengthen the markets, to ensure more competition, to bring prices down. look where we are now. candidate donald trump said that we ought to give medicare the ability to negotiate lower drug prices. candidate donald trump said we would never cut medicaid and yet
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here we are. and the president now, president trump is taking the same reckless approach that republican leadership has taken in the past. we should be working together to strengthen the affordable care act, to provide more access at a lower cost instead of looking at a piece of legislation that cuts access to health care and raises costs on everyone else. >> what do you think is going to happen? the republicans have had seven years to do away with or reshape obamacare. there have been more than 50 votes to repeal, replace it. that didn't happen. unsuccessfully. now what do you see happening, particularly for people who are counting on health care right now, who are worried about what's going to happen next year. how do you see it playing out this year? >> right. well, there are lots of -- millions and millions of americans who are worried about not just whether or not they're going to continue to have coverage, but whether that coverage is going to continue to
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ban discrimination for pre-existing conditions, whether that coverage is going to continue to provide access to essential benefits, like maternity care and pediatric care and emergency room care. they would like this partisan stunt to end and they would like the republican leadership to be willing to reach out, sit down and have a conversation about strengthening what we have now. that's the approach that i hear my colleagues talking about. let's make the affordable care act stronger, not this really dangerous approach that would be so detrimental to millions of americans. >> congressman ted deutsch, thanks for your time. and happy fourth weekend. >> thanks very much. happy fourth to you. >> all right. this week, trump and putin will finally meet face to face, now that donald trump is president and might it resolve some real world problems, or will this just be a chance for
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>> welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield. this is the week when president trump and russian president vladimir putin will finally meet face-to-face since trump took office. it will be a sideline meeting at the g20 and not a formal bilateral. trump will focus on working out their differences over what to do, about syria and ukraine. not on the list of topics to discuss, election meddling. this unstructured agenda means that trump could bring up anything you wants to what else could be expected from this meeting?
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to be talking about, not the least of which you just mentioned, allegations of interference by moscow but other outstanding issues as well, particularly the conflict in syria, the ongoing hot hostilities in ukraine. all of these are pressing issues. also the fact that the united states has sanctions, economic sanctions on russia, which russia dearly wants lifted. and so there's a whole range of issues that could be discussed but it's impossible to predict that briefing further from either side, what will actually be discussed. there's some confusion on the russian side. certainly expectations are very low from the russian side about what can be achieved. the state news anchor yesterday often a mouthpiece for the kremlin saying, look, if they agree to just meet again, the russian side will consider that to be a success, fredricka. >> and so, matthew, meantime, the kremlin spokesman says that
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patience is running out. and i'm quoting there. over the state of the diplomatic compounds in the u.s. that were seized during the obama administration last year. what does that mean? they want those properties back, access back, explanation, what? >> yeah. well, those properties, of course, were seized by the united states at the end of last year as a result of the allegations of election meddling by the russians, also 35 diplomats that were expeled from the united states. the russians decided not to respond at that point. they wanted to wait until donald trump to come in to see if something could be done with him. and it hasn't because of the political pressure. they want those diplomat ic institutions back. they have got a plan of
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reciprocal responses if they don't get what they want. maybe this is one of the issues that vladimir putin will be briefed when he meets donald trump on the sidelines in hamburg. maybe that's one of the issues he will bring up with his american counterpart. >> let's widen this conversation further and welcome cnn global affairs analyst for "the new yorker" david rhode and william courtney, ambassador is on the phone with us. david, you first. can expectations be too high with this meeting between putin and trump? >> they can be high on the russian side, that that president trump is having this meeting with president putin shows russia's re-emergence on the world stage. from the trump administration side it wants to downplay expectations. matthew talked about possibly
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handing over these compounds back to russian officials. i think that would be a tact in washington and fairly or unfairly it would raise more questions why is president trump sort of -- it would seem if he handed back these compounds going easy on russia. >> and so ambassador, you know, cnn's steven colinson put it very well, saying the two leaders have been circling one another, intrigued yet at a distance. but now they're going to be face to face. there are an awful lot of things that they could be talking about, including the russian meddling into u.s. elections. mr. ambassador, what do you believe could really come from this meeting? is it just sizing one another up or is there something substantive here? >> the key issue will be what kind of trades are possible? so for the ukraine issue, which really has been the number one issue between russia and the west, the trade is fairly clear. if russia pulls out of eastern
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ukraine, the west will give up the big economic sanctions, will lift those sanctions. but in other areas, the trade is less clear. for example, those vacation facilities that russians have, president obama said they're intelligence collection facilities, one in maryland, the other in long island is opposite the naval base and close to the industry in long island. so if president trump gives those back, he's going to need something in return. otherwise, congress will surely pass this sanctions bill that will expand sanctions and put them into law. >> and then what would it mean, in your view, if the u.s. were not to receive anything in exchange, if trump were to go there and say okay we're going to give you those compounds back as just another way of chipping away of the obama legacy? >> it's just not going to be
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possible for trump to give those back without giving something in return. he has to have a deal of some sort if he's not crucified. for example, the russians are violating the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty. this may mean that congress won't extend the reduction treaty. so there needs to be a matter -- maybe missile defense will be part of that. who knows. whatever he does has to involve a trade with russia where trump can come out saying he has gotten something and putin can do the same. >> all right. so, many are believing that this will be the first time these two men are meeting, but trump himself in past has said that he has gotten to know him. he has met him, et cetera. just take a listen to kind of a look back at the many words of donald trump on putin. >> i never met putin. i don't know who putin is. i have nothing to do with putin. i've never spoken to him. i don't know anything about him other than he will respect me.
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i was in moscow recently and spoke indirectly and directly with president putin, who could not have been nicer. >> douso, david, how does that potentially set the stage of what the mood will be like, deceit meern of these two men will be like since there's been so many conflicting messages about whether they've known each other, have met or not. >> this goes back to the belief of the american public and president trump, his base believes him and doesn't think there's any nefarious activity or relation with russia. democrats are much more suspicious. what's odd about this meeting is that there's no script to it. national security adviser general mcmaster said twaes taes going to be informal. that's dangerous for trump. image of trump smiling broadly and shaking putin's hands will be used against president trump by his political opponents. so tough with traditional american allies, the new leader
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of south korea was just at the white house. he complained about trade deals with them. he's more confrontational now with european leaders regarding nato. if he goes easy on trump -- i agree with the ambassador. if he somehow turns those compounds over for nothing it will raise these questions again, why is he so aggressive toward everyone else but so welcoming and understanding towards president putin? >> so, matthew, do people in russia ask that very question, that it seems that there's deference to putin whereas there isn't for many others? >> well, i think you have to see it in the context that when donald trump was elected and before he was elected he promised to radically transform the relationship between washington and moscow and said there were all sorts of high expectations here about how the two countries could cooperate, for instance, on international terrorism and the conflict in syria. donald trump, of course, criticized nato. that was music to the ears of the kremlin as well and all
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sorts of expectations that this could be the start of a new era in the relationship. none of that came to pass. i think that's been genuinely disappointing. as we go into this meeting between trump and putin, this genuine apprehension on the part of the russians, they want a predictable partner, somebody who they can work with, to normalize the relationship between the united states and russia, someone who can make them work with to get these damaging sanctions on the economy, imposed by the united states lifted and they're genuinely concerned about what is going to come out of this meeting. they're acutely aware that whatever he says towards taking a step toward building bridges with russia is interpreted in the poisonous political atmosphere in the united states as being a negative. and that's something that is deeply alarming for many russians, including at the top of the russian government. >> we'll leave it there. matthew chance, ambassador william courtney, david rohde, thanks to all of you. appreciate it.
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welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield in for poppy and john. never mind health care, some in the trump administration are looking ahead to tax reform. according to axios, chief strategist steve bannon wants to go against the grain, raising taxes on the wealthy. meanwhile the president is cheering the economy, tweeting this. stock market at all-time high. unemployment at lowest level in years. wage also start going up and our base has never been stronger. joining us now to talk about all of this, this plan, will it work? former reagan economic adviser and adviser to the trump campaign and jean sahadi, good
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to see you. happy fourth weekend. you, first, arthur. axios reporting that bannon told colleagues he wants to the top income tax bracket to have a four in front of it, meaning raising the top bracket to be 40% or more. how much of a middle class tax cut could that finance? >> i don't think it will financeny to be honest with you. these people in the top 1% find more shelters and more ways to get around taxes like they do now. in fact, they would lose money. in the last 100 years, whenever they've raised the tax rates on the top % of incomers, revenues that have group have gone down and it hurts the economy. it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. >> so, jean, this coming from bannon, according to reporting. if the president were backing this, would he have the kind of support to push this through?
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>> i actually have no idea. the reason is the republicans are not speaking with one voice on anything. certainly not in tax reform and in terms of health reform and in terms of tax reform all we know is that treasury secretary steve mnuchin and gary cohn are leading the discussions. how influential bannon is, i'm not quite sure. they're talking to the senate on this. it would be a surprise to say we're going to raise taxes on anyone, let alone the rich. we'll see. >> would a tax cut, arthur, for the middle and working class stimulate the economy? >> you know, let me say jeanne's completely right on that. the republicans are not talking with one voice. in fact, i'm not even sure which way the wave is going, let alone one voice. but tax cuts on the middle class is not the right way to go. what you really want to do is cut that corporate tax rate from 35% to 15%. that is the real adrenaline that would really get this economy going and then provide jobs,
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provide output, provide employment. you know, kennedy put it so beautifully when he said the best form of welfare is still a good high-paying job. and you cannot tax an economy into prosperity. it just doesn't happen. >> so, jeanne, on the supply side, economics, recently in the "new york times" a kansas experiment about cutting taxes to the rich. the cuts came but the growth never did. as the rest of the country was growing at rates of just above 2%, kansas grew at considerably slower rates, finally hitting just .2% in 2016. revenues crashed. >> yeah. well, the thing about kansas is one of the things they did, which is similar to what is proposed in the white house plan, to the extent we know about the white house plan. they cut the rate on so-called past or small businesses. they cut it to zero in kansas.
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the trump administration is proposing 15%. the problem is that there's a lot of opportunity for tax sheltering. revenues crashed in part because the business revenue dropped considerably because people didn't pay their taxes. and every conservative economist will say this. this is not a democratic point of view. it's -- the problem with all sorts of tax cuts is that it's part of a moving system. so, how much you cut a rate also then depends on what you do outside of that rate cut. do you take away tax benefits so that you're preserving the revenue base, which a government needs to function? kansas is learning that lesson the hard way. the governor, his whole legislature basically out ruled him and started to raise taxes again. so it's a concern for the federal government as well. >> arthur, what does this potentially tell you about the direction in which this white house might be able to go? if you have dissenting views, bannon saying one thing, cohn
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another, mnuchin another. does this say to you that there is no framework on a tax reform plan that this president wants to ultimately push forward, that they are starting from ground zero? >> let me say jeanne was completely correct on kansas. exactly correct. when you cut a tax to zero it's hard to get much revenues from that. what's happening is what typically happens in a lot of administrations. i've been involved with five presidents over the years. before they really get their sea legs, they have a lot of conflict, lot of stuff going on. that will disappear. which direction it goes, i'm not sure, fred. but you will see changes coming in this administration. you will see clarity coming. it may be the clarity like jerry ford, which is an utter disaster, maybe clarity like bill clinton, clear as a bell and beautiful period after he lost the house and the senate in '94, it became one of the best presidencies ever. the clarity will come. right now it's a classic time
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for everyone going after everyone and trying to find out where they fit in this administration. >> all right. arthur laffer, jeanne sahadi, thank you both. we appreciate it. all right. well, new meaning to life's a beach? new jersey governor chris christie caught on camera, lounging in the sand, right after he closed the state's beaches to the public because of budget troubles. you've got to hear the answer when we come back. family's hectic home: its raised 1 dare devil, 2 dynamic diy duos, and an entrepreneur named sharon. its witnessed 31 crashes, 4 food fights, and the flood of '09. it's your paradise perfected with behr premium plus low odor paint. the best you can buy starting under $25. unbelievable quality. unbeatable prices. right now get incredible savings on behr's top-rated paints and stains. only at the home depot.
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welcome back. i'm fredricka whitfield in new york in for poppy and john this holiday weekend. it is the holiday so a great
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time to go to the state beach or park, right? well, not in the state of new jersey right now. the garden state has closed all of them because of budget constraints. closed to everyone except the governor. chris christie and his family. there are pictures to show it. the beach deserted except for christie and company in beach chairs, swimsuits, shorts, the whole nine guaryards. here's what the former presidential candidate said when asked whether he had gotten a tan. >> no, go ahead, i didn't get any sun today. no. no. there's no one there. there are no lifeguards, there's no one to pick up the garbage. there's no one to provide any services at island beach state park. next, next. excuse me, next. next. i'm done. we're talking about the closure of government and you're talking about your tmz stuff. >> oh, my goodness. well, the pictures are
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resonating and folks are wondering why the governor can be on a state beach and not everybody else. so polo sandoval is at liberty state park at jersey city, new jersey. polo, what have people been saying, if anything, as they try to make it into the state parks or beaches today. >> reporter: we talked about it yesterday, people are clearly frustrated. they had their holiday weekend plans, they wanted to bring their family out. not only people from new jersey but from around the world. yesterday i spoke to some people who wanted to use this as a launching point to the statue of liberty. a lot of people now having to go to montana and that's what we've seen behind me where state park police are essentially telling people to turn around and head in the other direction. and that is what has several people upset, especially after some of those images were released or at least were shown, showing the state's chief executive with his family at the
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governor's retreat in island beach state park. we're hearing from some of the spokespeople who say it's a little more complicated than that. essentially saying that is the governor's residence. yesterday governor christie along with his family were on the portion of the beach that is attached to the property. that is their explanation. a few moments ago we read a statement or a portion of an interview that governor christie granted a new york program. i want to read you a portion of it as he spoke to "good day new york" essentially saying that last monday he said that regardless of what went down, regardless of whether or not this budget battle will get sorted out, he still planned on taking his family out there and said that's exactly what he did. he said in his own words. this is where we live, one of the places we live, and so what a great bit of journalism by the star ledger, which essentially did show some of these images saying this is something that he can do, something that he will do. today we do expect him to call back legislators to see if this will come to an end finally and
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finally people will be able to make their way back into the dozens of parks throughout the garden state. back to you. >> so, polo, we just put a statement up. can we put that up one more time. this statement, my producers, did this statement come after the images have been revealed? can we see that again, that statement. >> this is something that -- yeah, fred, this is something -- this was part of an interview, a phone interview that was given to "good day new york." that is a focus of the conversation. >> i'm sure they're going to get a pulitzer -- sorry to interrupt you. let's see at the beginning again. there we foe. "i'm sure they're going to get a pulitzer for this one because they actually proved they caught me doing what i said i was going to do with the people i said i was going to be with.
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which is quite different from his statement in front of cameras where he seemed to be a little agitated that people were asking him about being on the beach and he said he wanted to move on, et cetera. so there's still a lot of explaining to do, as they say, polo. >> reporter: right, fred. he made clear in that interview that the governor has his residences, there are two in this case, state-owned residences and he as a right to go to those residenceresidences optics not what the government would want in light of the partial government shutdown in new jersey. >> polo sandoval, thank you so much. we'll be right back.
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