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on the upbrough tron saying "our family grew today." then with hospital band still wrapped on his wrist he put a new meaning to birthday bash when he smashed this home run in the very first pitch he saw on the day. what a day. freddy, as histophillies win over the pirates 4-0. feel-good story for you this morning. >> go freddy and company. that is so cool. all right coy, thanks for bringing it to us. appreciate it. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" begins right now. >> good morning, i'm fredricka whitfield in for poppy harlow and john berman on this fourth of july. two big breaking stories that we're following for you this hour. first the u.s. is right now looking into a stunning claim from north korea, the nation threatening overnight that for the first time it has now successfully tested a missile capable of striking "anywhere in
the world." the president firing back, trump, at kim jong-un on twitter last night asking in part if the dictator has "anything better to do with his life." then hours after that tweet from trump, the white house delivering another major revelation, that this week's g20 meeting between president trump and russian president vladimir putin is no longer being held on the sidelines and is now being called a full fledged bilateral meeting. that actually coming from the kremlin. more on that in a moment, but first, cnn international correspondent paula hancocks is live for us in seoul, south korea, with more on north korea's claim. paula? >> hello, fredricka. we actually heard from russia as well from putin, when it comes to north korea, saying that russia and china both agree on the way to deal with north korea, saying that north korea has to freeze its missile test. it's quite unusual for the two
to be talking in this way. in fact, moscow doesn't even react to north korea missile tests. so quite unusual there to hear from russia, but certainly it is not just any missile test. according to north korea, they say that it is an icbm, they say it was a successful icbm, saying it was an historic event for the united states. now, south korea, the joint chiefs of staff is saying they're working right now the u.s. to figure out if, in fact, it was an icbm. they said they haven't agreed that it was yet but they haven't disagreed either, so certainly that they're poring over the data to figure out whether technically that is what it was. whatever it was, it's of great concern to those in the region. just some of the international reaction we've had from some of the neighbors of north korea, china said that we hope all relevant parties will exercise restraint. ja pa japan's prime minister said the threat further increased and south korea's president moo jae-in said "i hope north korea
will not cross the bridge of no return." moon jae-in said if north korea crosses the red line the south korea and the u.s. don't know what our response would be but certainly he didn't specify what that red line was. but there are great concerns at this point about this icbm. north korea claiming they can now hit anywhere in the world. experts dismiss that claim, but many experts say they believe that it could well have been an icbm given the figures, theality future, the distance, the time it traveled for. some suggesting this kind of baun launch could seer this already able to hit alaska. this is not coming from official channels. still waiting for the u.s. and south korea to decide whether or not it was an icbm. back to suzanne malveaux at the white house, for more on that plan bilateral meeting between trump and putin at the g20 summit, so suzanne, the kremlin said it first out loud,
then the security council confirmed it. what about the white house? >> actually the white house has confirmed it now. president trump was just arriving at the trump national golf course in sterling, virginia, just moments ago, not far from the white house, but the white house has confirmed this meeting will take place on friday afternoon. this is important, and it is significant for a couple of reasons. first of all, symbolically it gives this meeting more heft, more weight of greater import. it serves both leaders potentially well, giving president trump an opportunity to be seen side by side, face to face, get to see the body language of these two, and to convey a message, if you will, that trump is beyond the investigations regarding the russia interference with the 2016 election with the investigations as to whether or not trump officials, campaign s.
vladimir putin could also potentially get something out of this, looking as if he's in control having the intelligence community concluded that russia, in fact, did meddle in the campaign of 2016, and yet he is sitting there side by side with the president of the united states. on the other side, significantly and substantively it could make a difference as well. it gives them some real time to go behind the scenes to sit side by side and address serious issues like ukraine, like syria, like north korea. it also potentially, fred, having covered a lot of the g20 summits gives reporters a moment to capture them, to see them together and potentially to ask some questions. fred? >> suzanne malveaux at the white house, thank you so much. we have a lot to talk about this morning. joining me to walk through all
of it, rick francona, retired colonel, cnn military analyst, nic robertson, david sworlik, assistant editor for "the washington post" and patrick healey, editor of the "new york times," good to see all of you. colonel francona, i wonder if i could tackle this with you first. we have a few things, putin and trump will be meeting in this bilateral talks, whether they together talk about north korea, you know, still a work in progress, but we do know that russia has already said that russia and china will be talking about north korea. do you believe it's important for trump to talk with putin about helping to tackle, contain north korea in some capacity? whether china is involved or not? >> i do. i think it's a great opportunity for all of them to sit down and talk about it and i was encouraged by the statements by the chinese and the russians
together saying that the reactions to this north korean development. if we can get president trump and president putin together and address this issue, it certainly brings a lot more pressure. the last test may have been more of a wake-up call to china and russia that the north koreans are approaching a capability that none of us want them to have. >> nic, this is the 11th missile test this year from kim jong unl. kim jong-un. this latest one happens on the fourth of july, and a day before trump heads off to europe for the g20. >> yes, and you get the impression kim is thumbing his nose at everyone and chosen this time, a, because he can, and b, because he know this is will get the maximum impact. he wants attention on this. and there's a clear sense that
he feels that he's done this before and he's done tests on the fourth of july before, that he likes the time test particularly to embarrass president trump, one thinks back to the incident when president trump was in mar-a-lago when he tested a missile back then. so yes. there is a sense that this is part intentional by kim, but also coming right on the eve of the g20 looking at some of the other things planned. president putin meeting with xi jinping of china on the eve. the european union likely to sign a major deal with japan on the eve of the g20, they send a bigger broader message to president trump about trade and protectionism and free trade, but xi jinping and putin didn't know that kim was going to test this missile when they were meeting but they quickly formulated a plan that tries to
thwart the united states' ambitions, and its problem solving of the north korea crisis in the region saying that it should stop its military exercises in the region, it should get the thaad missile defense system out of south korea. so very quickly, you're seeing russia and china put up a road block here for president trump for whatever his solution may have been for this. again, arriving at the g20 there's a lot going on, there's a lot of other actors out there as well that are doing things that it's not going to make president trump's life easy. >> right, and so patrick, if un is trying to embarrass trump with a missile test do you see even president vladimir putin might be trying to do the same thing by upstaging trump, whether it be about announcing first there's going to be a bilateral discussion and also saying first out loud in a very presidential manner that their discussions with china as it pertains to containing north korea?
>> yes, i think this is a really important dimension, fredricka. it seems like president trump is kind of being boxed into a corner by both china and russia. the united states is strategic interests here from protecting alaska, protecting the homeland, protecting hawaii, stability on the korean continent may not be and in some cases is not china and russia's interests here. whatever president trump wants to do with north korea, while he's tweeting that you know, now is the time for china to be getting more involved, the united states still has a real interest in calling some of the shots at least in terms of laying out the strategy and you can believe president putin and russia, president xi and china are not necessarily on the same page here so you're going to see president trump walking into this now bilateral meeting on friday. it seems like right now at least the terms of the table are the agendas are being set by president putin here.
>> and so david, you know, the setting of the tone by putin for, you know, donald trump, setting of the term on the global stage as it pertains to this world issue of north korea, what do you suppose is changing in the preparation for donald trump right now, as he embarks on this trip tomorrow? >> fred, right. you have a political track and a policy track and i think patrick's right that on policy, our interests and the interests of putin or xi don't always match up precisely, and yet you see statements coming out from all these leaders suggesting that everyone's got to work together. the question is, how do you work together and how does each country have leverage over the other. in the case of president trump has been fairly consistent so far, saying that he was running out of patience with the policy of strategic patience, that he wanted china to exert more leverage over north korea, except that what is our leverage to get china to do that?
that's the question we're going to maybe get a few more answers to in this week, in terms of the politics, right, which world leader is going to look like the person driving the agenda and which world leader is going to look like they're the person sort of working with the other world leaders, and president trump is in a little bit of a box right now, because you have moving on with the deal with japan and russia and china getting together and everyone's looking to see whether or not president trump, the new superpower world leader on the stage, will exert his influence in this process. >> so colonel francona, when you talk about leveraging thus far, donald trump is using tweets in a much more casual format. president trump already is sending out statements in a much more kind of controlled almost l diplomatic fashion. does that give one more leverage over the other leading into these meetings? >> no, i don't think so. i think everybody understands that the president's going to
tweet kind of off the cuff. i think it was more important is the preparations for the talks with these two leaders, and they're going to meet on the sidelines and now i guess we'll have a full blown summit between the united states and russia. this is very important and picking up on what everybody has said, yes, it almost looks like they're calling the shots but if we can maneuver them into helping with the solution, i don't think it matters. >> patrick? >> i think that right now, at least president trump and the united states are very much in the interests here to deescalate at least tensions on the korean peninsula, but the reality is president trump we know this from his twitter behavior, i know it from covering him on the campaign, public perception is very important to him, and being seen as strong as kind of the leader, as kind of the chairman of the board, the biggest guy in the room. it's important to him. look, we want stability on the korean peninsula. that is in everyone's interest, but he also knows that he is
walking into a meeting with president putin and the eyes of certainly many americans are going to be watching, given this investigation that is ongoing between possible collusion between the trump campaign and russia in the 2016 election and nothing has eaten away at president trump like the sense that he is still under investigation. he badgered comey over it in terms of getting let off the hook and it's something that he has not been able to compartmentalize. he has been under this sort of full-throated atack against the media, trying to discredit cnn, the new york times, others. he very much as much as we oall want the same result coming out of that meeting, president trump is going to be having multiple sort of imperatives on his mind. >> he wants that to go away, but it is the elephant in the room, when he meets bilateral talks with putin. how can he not say something about stop meddling, similar to how president obama said knock it off, and it was only in
several different means, including a tweet where trump said he choked, he did nothing. >> right, but that's the thing. we both know president trump has said so many things about the russia hack that it didn't happen, that it was a hoax, that it was a fat guy in a basement in new jersey, and then that it was real but it was obama's problem, and president obama didn't do enough about it. so we don't know what he's going to say. one thing that we do know is that on the past foreign trip, president trump has been very well scripted, the tweets, the real casual tweets, he held back on. >> only at the end of the trail. >> what certainly the white house wants is for him to go into the meeting with president putin sort of looking strong, looking on message. i don't think you're going to hear a lot about collusion or telling him to stop meddling because honest, that's a beehive for them. even sort of touching it is
going to get tricky. >> colonel, on these options of how to deal with north korea, you've got, there are going to be trilateral talks, there will be bilateral talks involving all nations that are concerned about that region opinion. >> the only real outcome anybody wants is diplomatic solution and if the president can engineer enough pressure from the chinese and the russians and those two have the capability to tell the north koreans to stop this program. other than that, we face a bunch of very unpalatable options. if we have to solve the problem unilaterally it's difficult, messy and could take us into an armed confrontation the likes we haven't seen in decades. >> so apparently we're learning that today, white house officials will be meeting today about options. the president makes it appear sometimes in his tweets that we've run out of patience, that
military options could be something we would go with, meaning this country would go it alone. what are the options that these administration officials would be talking about today potentially? >> well, of course they're looking at a variety of military strikes on different facilities, do you go after the leadership? do you go after the nuclear facilities in do you go after the launch facilities, and the north koreans know what these military options are and they have built around them. they use deep bunkers for everything. they switched almost everything to solid fuel. they can launch these things in just a mere matter of minutes. they roll out the mobile launchers and fire it before we can get our sensors set up, so it's not a very easy target, but the united states will of course present the president with what options he has. none of them, none of them are good. >> and then nic, quickly, does all of this attention just simply help embolden kim jong-un, who wants to be important on the world stage, who does not want to be ignored?
>> unless there is a resounding unanimous voice that arises from the g20, he's going to feel he can maneuver his way between the world powers and that's pretty much what he figures at the moment and you have to look at this and say he wouldn't have done this on the eve of the g20 if he didn't think he could get away with it. you have to take that perspective, therefore the stakes of getting that joint agreeing position loud and clear from this g20 not in two weeks, from this g20, it has to come strong. >> all right, nithanks so all o you. happy fourth. defying the president. dozens of states refusing to hand over private voter information despite a request from the trump administration, plus u.s.-backed forces close to driving isis out of two key cities in iraq and syria. what does this mean for the war on terror? y crying)
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welcome back. white house officials are meeting today to discuss options as it pertains to north korea after its 11th missile test. barbara starr, at theet. gone, what are the options on the table that they would be exploring? >> well, where this starts is we now know that the u.s. and south korea are looking at all that technical data about north
korea's missile launch to see if it is capable of hitting the u.s., as north korea claims. if that claim is true and they are looking very hard at it, we expect to have some information in the coming hours what the conclusion of this analysis is. if it is an icbm, an intercontinental ballistic missile, the question for administration officials how would they respond. north korea would not be allowed to have a missile that could hit the united states and particularly with a nuclear w warhead. this will provoke a discussion in the administration, which is already happening today, about potential options. look, they could be diplomatic options. sanctions. working with other countries wrapping up the pressure. it could be some kind of low level, if you will, military option. we often have seen in the past
more ships, troops, aircraft to update the presence in the korean peninsula, reassuring the asian allies, south korea, japan, who want to know they will be protected if there's a provocation by north korea. military options always very tough. the issue if you do something in the military sphere what does that provoke kim onung to do. >> thank you, barbara starr. joining us is republican congressman lee zeldin of new york, serves on the house foreign affairs committee. welcome and happy fourth. >> thank you, happy fourth. >> congressman, as we learn today that national security military and diplomatic officials are holding this unexpected july 4th meeting involving the white house about what to do, what are your concerns on whether north korea tested an icbm? >> we can never allow kim
jong-un to have the ability to deliver a nuclear warhead to the united states. every time they test fire it's not just an act of provocation and aggression and message sending, it's a test. they try to make tweets to their ability on timing, on how to become more efficient, and as they continue to improve their technology, they move closer to that ability the pressure gets ramped up on us to be able to prevent that. now, we approach this under the philosophy of d.i.m.e., diplomacy military information economics. what will happen in those meetings they will continue to figure out how to make maximum use of the dmie principle with military being the last possible option going into the g20 provides another point of discussion at today's meeting to make sure that the president is best postured for his
conversations that will be making place. >> does it make you feel more could have dent it would be the diplomatic options these officials would be most leaning on given this is a day ahead of the president headed to the g20, and meeting potentially with china, of course meeting in bilateral talks now russia, as well as meeting with south korean counterparts? >> yes. absolutely. diplomacy information economics, those components of the dmie principle are really important right now to ramp up economic pressure on the north koreans. that is why plan "a" b, c and d have been to include china to take a leadership role. it's their ability to cripple the north korean economy if they wanted to or at least the threats of having a willingness will force the north koreans to change their bad activities.
that's not the only point of discussion as we go into g20, the cyber activity of north korea, their human rights violations, what just happened to otto, and their unjust imprisoning in north korea of people, that's another bad activity. otto is not a unique exception to the norm in north korea and the north korean people themselves they are not coming in contact with the full story as to why they're facing the plight that they face, and they look to their north korean leadership as heroes, and it's unfortunate that they aren't getting the full picture as to why it's their own government forcing them to live in the position that is their present-day reality. >> now it has been confirmed by the white house, the security council and the kremlin there will be the bilateral talks
between vladimir putin and donald trump, what is your hope the discussions we will talk about. at first it was ukraine and syria. now it's a bilateral discussion, what are you hoping the two are going to talk about? >> there's a lot to talk about. russia is an adversary of the united states and they should talk about ukraine. they should talk about syria. they should talk about afghanistan where russia has a relationship with thetal ban and they're meddling in afghanistan where u.s. servicemembers are. we were talking about cyber activity as it relates to north korea. there's certainly a cyber offensive on the part of the russians. the president should find the opportunity to speak about nato. he should speak about about the russia meddling in the united states election, as well as
other elections. these are all topics and there's also areas where we can work better together with the targeting of isis. they have another adversary where isis is operating in syria. russia has who are of a presence in syria than the united states does. that is an area where hopefully they can make good progress in both countries working together. there's a lot to talk about. >> a lot to talk about. quickly you said you hoped he would talk about cyber meddling, russia's meddling in the u.s. elections. if that is a topic not broached by the president of the united states, big mistake or not? >> no, absolutely it would be a mistake, because look back on the 016 election and russia meddling there. russia has a longstanding history of doing that. the united states has a history of meddling in other elections
abroad. before you know it you're facing another election ahead and it's not just dealing with russia itself, but also other nations, other actors, protecting the integrity of our own process here our electoral process is incredibly important, whether it's reflecting on the last election but also looking forward to future elections, so that's an important topic. russia was wrong to do so. i'm a republican, but i'm concerned about what i saw happen with the democratic congressional campaign committee, the democratic national committee, john podesta, even though that's the other side, the other side of that political battle, who knows where you are in 2020. or 2018 if russia chooses to med until a different way. we need to come together as americans to send a strong message yunited. >> an assault on american democracy. congressman zeldin thank you for your time on this holiday. >> thank you. the list is growing.
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well. the voter commission asking for voters full names, dates of birth, party affiliation, and partial social security numbers, among other information. new mexico's secretary of state says she has questions about the white house's moves and motives. >> it's not clear what the data is used for. seems to be a fishing expedition or a witch hunt of some kind. >> all right, let's talk about this. i'm also joined by jane newton-mall contribute why are for "time" magazine author of "broad influence." good to see all of you. happy fourth again. one secretary of state says this say witch hunt on the part of the white house. is it tantamount to that? >> fred, you have so many states including states with republican secretaries of state, pushing back on the white house, in part one because there are other
procedures and avenues getting information about data, didata about what is on the voter roles other than going to the secretary of state cough up social security numbers, party names, et cetera. the other thing is president trump is operating under this sort of umbrella of the claim he made early in his administration or during the transition that 3 million to 5 million people had voted illegally in 2016 when there's no evidence of that. secretaries of state looking at their own credibility, i think, are saying look, we need to know more about this, more about what the white house has in mind before we go along with it and become a part of a situation where a white house commission maybe is looking to cast doubt on a future election, 2020, or something like that. >> and patrick, among those states rejecting this request, indiana vice president mike pence's state. what does this say? >> it's really stunning, fred. i would encourage everybody to go to cnn's great story online
this morning that goesz through all 50 states, cnn surveyed all 50 states, where do you stand on this. there's quotes from republican and democratic secretaries of state on the record saying they feel with indiana, you have a republican secretary of state, from mike pence's home state saying basically the voting commission is misunderstanding the rules. you can get publicly available information on a person's name, their address, and their congressional district and that is it. the idea that social security numbers, a whole batch of partial social security numbers or party affiliations will just be handed over to the trump administration a lot of the sec sta sec stares of state are saying these are outrageous. lot we reported on during the campaign were manifestly untrue, but president trump wants his own commission.
okay. to do their own investigation, okay. but what's not okay is invading the privacy of americans' personal liberties to ask for this kind of data. >> jay, this only lends to the further mistrust some might have about government, period. >> if president trump was serious about doing electoral reform, he would make this a bipartisan committee, so right now the 15-member committee, actually 14, the maryland member resigned over the weekend after his state refused to hand over information, this committee was all just appointed by the trump administration, and president obama did a bipartisan committee to look at electoral reform' pointed his top campaign lawyer and mitt romney's top campaign lawyer from the 2012 election, and they did vary bipartisan electoral reform. this is something that's totally not bipartisan and why so many states are rejecting it.
you see these incredibly red states saying this could be a real abuse of power and we're not going to go along with this because we don't believe that the trump administration's going to treat this information in a way that's going to reflect well with us with voters. and the response was mississippi secretary of state daryl burt horseman, fabulous name, who said president trump could go jump in the gulf, and that the mississippi was a great launching point for him to do that. >> and so david, you wonder if the very notion is another excuse for many voters to stay away from the ballot boxes. if i do this, does this mean my information is going to be out there? >> yes, fred, you step back from this for a minute, you have this problem where the administration with this commission is looking at, you know, this idea of widespread voter fraud, even though there's no evidence that there is widespread voter fraud
in this country. there are instances of voter fraud certainly but not any evidence that there's a big problem and on the other hand, they are sort of downplaying the idea that there was russian meddling in had the election, even though our intelligence agencies have confirmed that, and so you have the voter getting whipsawed between these competing narratives about whether they can trust the voting process and not getting the answers they want out of this, and yes there is a possibility that this will have voters skeptical about exercising something that they have the right to do and that is a bipartisan issue, voting an s prerogati prerogatives. >> let's talk about health care and the ongoing effort to pull together some sort of plan among republicans and senators. many are taking advantage of the july 4th recess to try to hunker down and craft something.
many congresses are going to fourth of july parades and hearing an earful, patrick, from their constituents. how are democrats seizing on this opportunity, if at all? >> right, between advertising campaigns between town hall meetings, between sort of mobilizing voters to get out there and get on television at the town hall meetings and talk about their own personal stories, and how much these huge proposed health care premiums would affect working class voters, that has real power, but with what we're not seeing is the behind the scenes maneuvering that majority leader mitch mcconnell is doing in the senate right now to try to get to 50 votes. that really has -- >> entertaining repeal, replace later. >> right. the options are on the table and president trump injected repeal now, replace later on the table. but majority leader mcconnell is very much focused right now just on getting a few recalcitrant senators from the maybe column
into the yes column. sort of getting a vote. he wants to have a vote after the fourth of july. he doesn't want to have to sort of shelf this into perpetuity, and so what that's going to take. so we're seeing a lot of democratic energy at the town hall meetings. >> they're even kind of counter campaign. >> exactly a sort of counter campaign going on right now by the republicans. >> jay? >> you see 43 events i believe that progressive groups have planned in the nine swing states or nine states where senators are pos potentially vote for this or not and they're getting blasted by progressives and some also taking friendly fire as patrick was saying, in nevada dean heller is one of the most vulnerable republicans up for re-election in 2018 and he's facing more than $1 million in republican funds against him to change his vote from a no to a yes. they're getting sandwiched between outrage on the left and outrage on the right, which is potentially not doing much to soften up their votes because they just feel that the safest
thing at this point is to vote no and then they can protect themselves electorally. that's mitch mcconnell's challenge right now is to turn those no's into yeses and it will be a tough lift for him. >> we'll see if they end up blowing right through the august recess as some proposed. jay newton-small, patrick healy, david, good to see you. happy fourth. isis on the run. u.s.-backed forces making significant progress on another key stronghold, we'll bring you an update next. anyone can get you ready, holiday inn express gets you the readiest. because ready gives a pep talk. showtime! but the readiest gives a pep rally. i cleared my inbox! holiday inn express,
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raqqah has been under isis control for more than three years now, using the old city wall as a fighting position. cnn's senior international correspondent nick paton walsh joining me live in erbil with the latest. >> reporter: it is a key moment according to the coalition statement, got through the outer old city walls swiftly. they appear to have broached two substantial holes in the wall and that enabled the syrian, kurdish and arab forces surrounding ground and air support to get in and around that old city a lot faster,xpassing a lot of booby traps and defensive positions laid out by isis to slow them down. that puts them about three kilometers from the city center. that's pretty quick going, frankly, given this only started about a month ago now, and we've seen a lot of progress on the ground. it's unclear really how long this will take, but it does look like it's going to be faster than the eight months onslaught
that was required to liberate the iraqi city of mosul. there are potentially as little as 50,000 civilians inside raqqah, many as many as 150. nobody really knows but on only ,500 isis fighters, says the u.s. coalition. so it could be quicker, but there will be booby traps and dense fighting in urban areas but perhaps this, the final stand of isis, in the last city they really control won't be as long and bloody as the fight for mosul. >> and nick, u.s.-backed forces are also making progress to recapture mosul, but that intense fighting there has delayed all of this. what more do we know about that? >> an incredibly small pocket of land in mosul on the west bank of the tigris river. it's been rumored potentially they'd be able to kick isis out of there in a matter of days. we're in a long, intensive slog, suggestions the fighting has been very brutal down in that remaining area. we have potentially over 100 isis fighters all as usual willing to die but potentially
throwing themselves as suicide bombers towards iraqi special forces trying to advance. many civilians in their midst and takes longer than thought. here is what the pentagon had to say about this continuing fight. >> we have advisers from the coalition that are with iraqi hardeners throughout the fight, so we have a very good picture and definition of what the battlefield looks like and what remains before total liberation can be called. three years ago to the day is when abu bakr al baghdadi announced his so-called caliphate, so it is very symbolic and while that is one of the two capitals over in syria, the de facto capital of isis is also being taken from them every single day. >> you could in these weeks begin to feel the caliphate as it was initially spread is complicated social tasks and
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it is a fourth of july tra kigs you might not be able to stomach but others can't help but relish. nathan's hotdog eating contest is set to begin in a little over an hour from now. who are the favorites to take home the mustard belt and a little indigestion, too, heartburn? karin caifa joins us live from kony island, the site of the contest every year. what are the odds looking like for joey chestnut? he's the king. >> fredricka, things are looking good for joey chestnut when you look at the rest of the field. 's adone this before, a nine-time my than's hotdog
contest winner and also got 43 competitive eating titles ranging from apple pie to bur ree toes. he's looking to come out strong today. last year in the competition he won by eating 70 hotdogs in ten minutes, that wasn't his personal best. he's done about 73 in the same time span. we're talking about ingesting about 20,000 calories in ten minutes, that's about what most of us eat in ten days. as far as a day for competitive eating goes, pretty good conditions at kony island today, 76 degrees here in brooklyn, moderate humidity so joey chestnut will have competition indeed, including matt stony who bested him in 2015 and also there is a guy named carmen cincotti who came out of the queens qualifying competition and ate 53 hotdogs, for someone not necessarily on the circuit that much is getting a lot of attention. lots at stake for the mustard belt and a cash prize here today and the bragging rights after eating how many dozen hotdogs.
>> this is like a sporting event, karin. what about the ladies? >> reporter: it really is. there is something for the ladies. they got their own competition about seven or eight years ago and the returning champion is mickey souto, won the competition three "times." last near she downed 38 1/2 hotdogs. sonia thomas holds the record, the so-called black widow. they are competing for the pink belt, the compliment to the mustard belt. the ladies get it started first here this afternoon. lots of sun and fun. >> sounds good. lots of fun and lots of indigestion for sure. karin caifa thank you so much. have fun. thanks for being with me today on this fourth of july holiday. i'm fredricka whitfield. at this hour starts right after this.
hell home i'm pamela brown in for kate bold up on this fourth of july. on the day the united states celebrates 241 years as a nation, north korea might have taken its saber rattling to a new and more ominous level. tip low mattic officials from the trump administration holding an unplanned july 4th meeting talking about options after north korea claims it successfully fired its first intercontinental ballistic missile. the projectile landed 200 miles off the coast of japan as you see here on this map. of the