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here we go. top of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we begin with a potential nuclear showdown. the president of the united states is about to touch down in europe for a series of meetings as his administration scrambles to respond to this first ever test by north korea of this icbm, this intercontinental ballistic missile. this marks a crucial advance in its arsenal. one, the secretary of state calls, and i'm quoting him, a new escalation of the threat to the u.s. and to the world. before the president left the united states, he again took to twitter to call out china for its economic support of north korea, tweeting, "trade between china and north korea grew
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almost 40% in the first quarter, so much for china working with us but we had to give it a try." we also have this new video of what kim jong un calls, quote, a basket of gifts for american bastards. the missile test by north korea. this missile here that experts say could reach alaska. let me say that again. missile test that could reach alaska and u.s. defense officials call a brand-new weapon never seen before. elise is working this for us. she's our cnn global affairs correspondent. when you hear from secretary tillerson that the u.s. will never accept a nuclear armed north korea, how has the u.s. responded to this? >> reporter: well, clearly, it's a game changer, brooke. the u.s. called an emergency session of the u.n. security council today. i think what we're really looking at initially is maybe some kind of presidential statement of condemnation but then the u.s. is really going to put the screws to the international community to try
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and tighten those sanctions against north korea, and i think the u.s. is considering what they call second party sanctions, which is sanctioning chinese companies, chinese banks, and any other country that does business with north korea. because really, you've heard, you know, u.s. commanders, even defense secretary mattis say that military action is really an unthinkable option. it's really the last option. so that diplomatic option starts with sanctions but also, i think, negotiations. and even though north korea has launched unimaginable behavior, i think the u.s. is really starting to think about what it would take for some kind of diplomatic option with north korea, because the alternatives are not very good, brooke. >> elise, thank you. we're going to come back to all of this. also, soon, as we mentioned, president trump will be touching down in poland. nick robertson is joining us now. he's the cnn international diplomatic editor, live from the host city of hamburg where we're
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told some protests are already breaking out. the president is scheduled to meet with china's leader. do we know, nick, how this missile test has changed even just president trump's agenda and conversations with world leaders for this trip? >> reporter: certainly going to change his conversations with xi jinping, it's undoubtedly going to be the top of that conversation. we know when he meets with president putin, they're talking more about ukraine and syria but north korea's going to be part of that, partly because president trump and xi jinping have already come to a conclusion on north korea. they say the united states needs to stop its military activity in the region as well and remove its thaad defensive missiles from south korea. so that's going to be on the agenda there. trade is going to be on the agenda. climate change is going to be on the agenda. but it does seem that north korea, the missile test there, is going to get in the way of some of the other conversations that would be had here. i don't know if you can hear over my shoulder, brooke, but
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this is 7,000 people, the police say, that we're seeing in the street just over there behind me. this is a "i'd rather dance than go to the g20 protest. this is just a tiny taste of what president trump can expect to hear when he gets here. police last night had to clear away demonstrators with a water canon, brooke. >> i can believe it. thank you, nick. let's have a big conversation about what about nick and elise just said. fareed is with me. and just jumping off nick's last point that xi jinping/putin meeting happen to quinn seed wi side -- coincide with this missile test. are they totally pushing the u.s. and president trump out? >> no, i think that the chinese and the russians have often kind of worked together or pretended to work together. no, i don't think that's the case. but i do think that, you know, the way that president trump has approached this has been, first of all, to assume that just the
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sheer power of his personal diplomacy, that paling around with xi jinping, giving him beautiful chocolate cake, taking him to mar-a-lago, this is going to make a difference. this is a high-stakes game for the chinese. the chinese have -- the united states has over 50 treaty allies. china has one treaty ally in the world, north korea. it fought a war with north korea against the united states. so there are deep bonds there. there is also a geopolitical reality. north korea acts as a buffer for china. right, if you imagine what could happen if the chinese were to push north korea really hard, the way the united states wants it to, the regime could collapse. you have 2 million, 3 million refugees pouring into china. you have a unified korea, obviously on south korean terms, meaning it's now going to be a pro-american, market friendly, democratic country with 30,000 american troops, and 10, 15 nuclear weapons. that would be on china's border
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now. so, explain to me again how this is in china's interest. >> i understand that. but what happened to -- and i realize it's been short lived since the president's only been in the oval office for a couple monz months, the chocolate cake, the tweet about president xi, china tried when it came to north korea, the visit at mar-a-lago. >> the president's tweets are honestly incomprehensible because one day he says xi jinping is a good man, he's going to solve this problem. then he says, you know, they never tried or maybe they tried. i don't know what he means by these. what i think the underlying mistake is to view foreign policy as a branch of psychotherapy, that, you know, if you just pal around with these guys -- china has deep strategic interests here. you could alter that calculation and maybe the united states should really try to get the chinese to figure out what would, you know, we want you to
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push north korea. but if the regime implodes, we understand your concerns and here's what we would be willing to do. maybe we agree that we would jointly go in and denuclearize, take all those nukes out so the chinese don't worry about it. maybe you have to rethink the u.s./south korea relationship. you know, those are the things that are going to matter. how well you get on with xi jinping is very low on the list of things that are going to change china's strategic interests. >> let me read something to you. this is what secretary mattis said. this is in june. the regime's nuclear weapons program is a clear and present danger to all. it would be a war like nothing we have seen since 1953, and we wouldn't have to deal with it with whatever level of force was necessary. it would be a very, very serious war. why do you think, if there were to be this war with north korea, what would it look like? would it be like a war that we have never seen? >> yeah. it really would be something completely different.
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the wars we have seen over the last 30 or 40 years have been wars that are more like insurgencies, you know, you have an invasion and then you occupy the place and then there's a little bit of fighting, you know, a few thousand people think about it -- i hate to put it in these terms but compared with world war i, world war ii, these wars have had limited, particularly american casualties. here you have south korea extremely rich, extremely well armed country, north korea with a huge, fearsome army and they would go to war. seoul, the capital of south korea, is within miles of the border. there would be, you know, the casualty levels that people estimate are in the hundreds of thousands. there are 30,000 american troops there. so, this is industrial-scale warfare between two incredibly well-armed, disciplined armies so this is more like world war ii or the korean war than it is
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like iraq, afghanistan, and in those circumstances, you have to remember, there are also nuclear weapons on both sides, in a sense, because the north has nuclear weapons, and the united states has south korea's treaty ally of course has nuclear weapons so not only are you talking about a world war ii-type conflagration on the korean peninsula, you have the possibility of a nuclear escalation on both sides. >> which is very frightening to even think about. we'll have to walk through some of the options later on in the show with other guests but for now, fareed zakaria, thank you so much. for all of that, watch fareed zakaria gps 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. on cnn. just moments from now, ambassador nikki haley is expected to speak at an emergency u.n. meeting on north korea. we will see how far the trump administration is willing to go publicly against the leader there, kim jong un. also ahead, backlash erupts after a republican congressman takes these selfie videos inside
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we're back. a new york city police officer, a mother of three, targeted and assassinated. the nearly 12-year police veteran patrolling an intersection in the bronx was shot in her head. officer m iwas shot. what's your location for shots fired. >> give me a [ bleep ] bus. give me a [ bleep ] bus. my partner is shot! >> based on what we know right now, it is clear this was an unprovoked attack on police officers who were assigned to
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keep the people of this great city safe. >> this is the man who shot her. he was killed. officers spotted him running away from the scene. police say when they confronted him, he pulled out his gun. as far as motive, they don't have that just yet but coming up next hour, we'll talk to someone who was at the scene last night. meantime in baltimore, a police officer's daily routine turned into just utter disbelief and shock and then heartbreak. this officer, who is the spokesperson for the baltimore city police department, and whose job it is to be notified about every single homicide in the city, would end up learning of his own brother's murder. the victim was diane smith, father of three toddlers. police say he was shot and killed inside his own home. he was the 103rd person to be
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killed in baltimore this year. officer smith believes his brother was tarted. >> when i saw his name come across, dionay, i just knew. you have that gut feeling but like any other family member, i'm in denial and i called his cell phone immediately and of course there was no answer. and i remember -- when i called, i was hoping that he would answer because even what i was doing, even just the fear that it was him, i was going to wherever he was to hug him. and i didn't get a chance to do that. i don't mind being vulnerable. i'm going to be vulnerable because i have to stand before the public and i've done that for a number of years now. i'm not immune to that. and i never took for granted
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that i was immune to anything like that. so, you know, i'm going to be vulnerable and share some things with you guys because i think it's important, and the reason i chose to speak, i understand the news nature of this because of the role that i have, and i hope that people can connect and relate and more importantly do everything they can to stop the violence. we're a great community, and we just have to work together to give those who want to harm our community off the streets. >> let's talk more about this with mary carol mccauley, a reporter with the baltimore sun who actually spoke with officer smith right after he found out about his own brother's death. so mary, thank you so much for being with me. and on dionay's death, i mean, the fact that officer smith wanted to talk about it, you know, opened himself up to you, his own personal grief, this is
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about, what, just trying to make sure this stops in your city. >> yeah, i told the chief that i thought that he was very brave for having written the facebook post and for agreeing to talk to me. >> yeah. >> and one of the things about him that's always struck me is that, i mean, it's his job to stop the killings, but it's also his -- he feels a deep sense of mission around that too, and i think that this is an outgrowth of that. >> so, and he -- he alluded to this in the sound we just played but again, it's his job, as a spokesperson, to be notified of any time someone is killed. how exactly did he find out? >> well, what he had said was that, i guess he gets phone calls every time somebody is killed, and there was a phone call, and they would have read the victim's name, dionay smith,
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and he says that he doesn't know of any other people that are named dionay. and so that was his first inkling, and then he said he did what anybody else in that situation would do, which is he tried to call his brother's cell, and it just was never picked up. it was just never answered. >> again, officer smith said his brother was a good guy, worked two jobs to support his family. he posted on instagram that his brother apparently wanted to run for mayor. that was a thing about diona kbr, he always wanted to be part of the solution. our condo lens to his family and the baltimore community. mary, thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next here, the story behind this video. vladimir putin and the russian foreign minister, sergei lovrov on camera laughing about the u.s. what was so funny. and we'll tell you what it says about their impression of
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g20 but first the president will be visiting warsaw, poland. let's talk about this with the former republican senator from the great state of pennsylvania. also with us, senior political analyst ron brown stein. thank you for coming in. and ron, just to you first, the fact that the president is stopping in warsaw, i heard someone likening it to someone eating your dessert before vegetables. he'll have this warm reception from like-minded leadership first. what do you think the goal is in doing that? >> well, yeah, it's one of the populist nationalist movements in europe that he has been bsh that has echoed similar themes as president trump here and as brexit in britain. so yes, i mean, it kind of gives him a little steppingstone into what will be a much tougher meeting in the g20, and tougher not only because of the tensions with nations with which we have a mixed relationship or adversarial relationship like china and russia but always
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because we have this extraordinary level of tension with our allies in europe. and we had angela merkel saying that isolationism and protectionism are not the way to safeguard the world security and safety and there was no question who she was talking about. >> it's been no secret how she's felt. but let's hone in on vladimir putin and president trump t rapport between these two because it's really a mystery. we have this video from late may. president putin was asked about this moment in the oval office when the president revealed some secret intel to the russian foreign minister, sergey lavrov. here he was. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> i mean, senator, you hear the way he responded to that. you saw sergey lavrov laughing back. do we even know if putin actually respects president trump? >> well, i think he certainly better respect the united states and what the president represents and the abilities that the president brings to the table of the united states of america. so, i don't think -- i mean, he may make jokes about the media coverage and the incident, but i'm quite certain -- >> president trump slipping unclassified information to the two russians in the oval office. >> yeah, i think that, you know, he certainly making light of that. but i don't think he's going to make light of the fact that president trump is stopping in poland. i think that's a very important gesture, not only to, you know, support the polish are regime and what they're doing within the eu but also to send a very clear signal to russia that, you know, eastern europe is important to the united states and poland's important to the united states, and making that statement, hopefully he will
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make statements to that effect when he gets to poland. how important the nato alliance is for eastern europe. so, you know, you can make jokes about things that are going on here in the american media, but i don't think he's going to make jokes about the seriousness of which donald trump brings to the equation of supporting eastern europe and poland in particular. >> sure. the level of office being the president of the united states, i mean, at least we know, ron, it's not, you know, an informal pull-aside. this is a full-fledged bilateral meeting. again, hearing from administration sources that the priorities of the meeting are syria, ukraine, the kremlin says there's not enough time on other issues. i mean, how optimistic are you that the u.s. will win, you know, any concessions from russia? >> you know, there are a lot of things that are unique about president trump, and i think one thing has actually quite common to other presidents is that i think each president arrives with an outsized expectation about how their personal relationships with other leaders
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can change the equation on the underlying conflicts of interest between nations. we've seen that, for example, with xi jinping, where the president has said he's disappointed that his strong relationship -- personal relationship that he struck up at mar-a-lago has not convinced china to be tougher on north korea. well guess what? they have lots of intrinsic reasons why they have not been tougher on north korea over the last 20 years and a good handshake or great chocolate cake can't really change that and i think that's a sobering reminder as he goes into the meeting with vladimir putin that this is a nation with whom we have a series of conflicts, not the least of which is their attempts to interfere with and kind of throw smoke at our democracy. so, you know, whatever their relationship, the underlying realities of kind of the power con flil conflicts, i think, endure and it's going to be a challenge for the president to kind of moderate his expectations about how much the personal ties can change those underlying conflicts. >> well, throwing smoke in democracy, apparently, senator, that is something that isn't
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necessarily on the table, the influencing of the elections, although it is interesting to note, apparently president putin may bring up the two compounds in long island and in maryland as taken away from russia, thanks to president obama. all because of the meddling in elections so the irony may be that it's putin who brings up the meddling. >> i don't think it would be a bad thing for president trump to bring it up. there has never been any solid evidence there was any collusion between the trump campaign and russia. so, i think he should not be worried about bringing that issue up. i think it would show that he's at least trying to put these -- the scurrilous accusations behind him and focus on a legitimate issue, which is russia's involvement. but there are also a lot of other very important issues. we're dealing with syria, obviously very, very important, and now north korea. i know this is everyone's focused on china, but you know, russia has a role to play there too. this is -- this is beyond -- now
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that we have an icbm that can reach alaska and potentially a, looking at the progress they're making, california, that changes the whole game here, and we have to start involving the world to say that, you know, having a buffer to south korea is all well and good but this isn't just a buffer anymore. this is a threat. this is a threat to skpus we have to start treating it differently. >> yep. ron, before i let you go, tell me about fault liones, your new column. >> i'm very happy to be writing on cnn, starting a new column every week which essentially explores ow demographic, economic, and cultural change are changing the political landscape and how parties are responding to that change and it essentially, i think, is going to be a look at politics from the outside in, at the way the changes in our society are changing the political competition. >> keep coming on and keep talking. but keep that writing up as well. we love hearing from you, ron and senator santorum, thank you so much. coming up, moments from now, u.s. ambassador nikki haley is
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set to talk north korea at the united nations where she's called for this emergency session. we're watching that to see what news can be made. also, a u.s. congressman is facing criticism from all around the world for taking these selfie videos inside a gas chamber at auschwitz. his message in the video, the reaction from the auschwitz memorial next.
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graves at the nazi concentration camp. >> cyclone. actual cans used to kill 1.1 million innocent civilians. everyone was dead. and then slave labor would go into the room and drag the bodies of those poor souls out and bring them and incinerate them in these ovens. this is why homeland security must be squared away, why our military must be invincible. >> officials at the auschwitz memorial museum said that the gas chamber should not be a place for such videos, adding, inside a former gas chamber, there should be mournful silence. it is not a stage. they also posted a picture of a sign at auschwitz, reminding
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visitors that you are in a building where the s.s. murdered thousands of people. please maintain silence here. remember their suffering, and show respect for their memory. with me now is steven goldstein, the executive director of the anne frank center for mutual respect. steven, i understand you point out the congressman never even mentions the word holocaust in his video. >> brooke, oh my god. a new low in american politics. the congressman tapes a video that is a desecration of the memory of jews who died at auschwitz and never mentions the holocaust or jews? but brooke, do you know what he has the time to do? he has the time to put his campaign logo at the end, and use this video for reelection purposes. this video and the congressman who made it are a global disgrace. this congressman needs to get sensitivity training or he needs to get the hell out of his job.
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>> wow. i should just tell everyone, we tried reaching congressman higgins, their office has been radio silent. so there's that. i have no idea what his intention was. i have no idea who he was -- whwho he thought he was trying to educate, but steven, when you take -- the video is absolutely in poor taste, right? if you focus on his tone -- >> disgusting. >> and his menssage, tone and message, how do you feel about that. >> well, the tone and message are ridiculous. i understand that the congressman is known down in louisiana as the cajun john wayne. frankly, i think he comes from the wayne's world of poor judgment. he has these very somber tones about how much he cares, and he uses this for the u.s. military. who appointed this congressman the sheriff of desecration of jews in order to promote the u.s. military? new lows of bad taste.
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just who the heck does he think he is? disgusting. >> it's one of those examples, too, when you watch the video, as you point out, it's got the logo at the end. it's got font. it's been edited so clearly -- i don't know. i don't know how many people were involved in this. but it's clearly no one said, mr. congressman, this is not such a smart idea. >> you know, brooke, i used to work in tv, in your industry, and here's what you and i know and viewers now can tell. this is a very carefully produced video. it's got edits, it's got theme music, it's got graphics. so, clearly, this video was made over a number of days, and the congressman had time during that period to say, wait, maybe this is not such a good idea. he didn't say that. nobody in his staff said that. nobody in his whole orbit said it. and by the way, when he invokes the u.s. military in this video, i think it's high time that president trump and the secretary of defense distance themselves from this video and
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denounce it. this video has no place in american politics, and frankly, neither does congressman. >> steven goldstein, executive director, anne frank center for mutual respect. thank you so much for hopping on tv on your vacation to talk about this. >> thanks, brooke. >> i appreciate you. and again, as i mentioned a second ago, we have made multiple phone calls to the congressman's office. we are still waiting for a statement. still head here with president trump mid flight to europe. the united nations about to meet at the request of nikki haley. we'll take that live. a new graduation requirement is sparking all kinds of debate in a major school district. the new rule? no high school diploma without a specific plan for the future. what does that entail exactly? we'll discuss that next. david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪
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getting a high school diploma in chicago will soon require more than just meeting the minimum course requirements. come 2020, students in chicago will also have to show they have a plan for life after high school.
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the new chicago public schools initiative would require seniors to show a college acceptance letter, acceptance into some sort of trade apprenticeship, military enlistment, job offer or be enrolled in a gap program. chicago mayor rahm emanuel rolled this whole thing out. >> a k-12 model was relevant 10, 15, 20 years ago. the city of chicago is moving towards a pre-k to college model. >> as long as we meet the state's minimum graduation requirements, the district, the board of education, does have the authority to have requirements on top of that. >> former chicago public schools principal liz dossier joins me live to weigh in on all of this. liz, it's nice to see you again. this is the mayor but it's aroundny duncan, farmer secretary of ed and your former boss who actually proposed this plan to the mayor. good idea? >> so, great to see you, brooke. yes, we think it's a great idea. we know that young people need a plan beyond high school.
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this is not 50 years ago where high school would suffice but the issue really is how do you have young people actualize that plan? in order to do that in a really robust way, you need counselors and supports, especially when you think about our first generation college students here in chicago. right now the current ratio of counselors to students is 1 to 300. if you can imagine having one counselor for every 300 young people. unbelievable. so, how do you make it a reality and make that plan a really robust one. >> it's the reality piece. this is the but to, well, it sounds like a really great idea. i was reading in the "washington post" just in terms of how cash strapped chicago is. 381,000, laid off more than 1,000 teachers last year. in such difficult financial straits that it struggled to keep its doors open for the final weeks of the school year. how do they pull this off? financially speaking. >> yeah. so i think that's the question that remains to be seen. i'm watching it alongside of many other chicagoans here who want the best for our young
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people. we know that currently only 18% of incoming ninth graders will ever graduate from college if they've attend add chicago public school. and if you double click on that, we have roughly 2% to 3% of african-american and latino boys who will graduate from clenl as incoming ninth graders into the system so in order to make that more, we need to begin to if i recollect out how do we do this how do we have counselors to support those kids to go from point a to point b. again, the plan is great but it's where the rubber meets the road in terms of resources. >> does it risk creating anxiety or pressure on students who may be graduating, don't have a lot of options. >> i think the counselor is so important. as a former high school principal and high school featurer, i know firsthand like the complexities of the college going experience. so it's, you know, applying to college, financial aid, it's all those things that the student has to do. and the counselor, especially with a 1 to 300 ratio, if you can imagine that, also has
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competing priorities of standardized test facilitation, dealing with the crises that may come up. all these different things and so we support the plan, it's just a matter of how do you actualize that plan and make it a reality for so many of our students where education is the only way, the only way out of poverty. >> implementation. we'll follow it up and see how they pull it off. thank you, and thank you for all your years, of course, in education in this country. coming up, here, it's being described as a new kind of missile. what u.s. intelligence is learning about that launch by north korea, what it's capable of doing. and have you heard? it's '90s week here on cnn and who better to talk to than seinfeld's over newman. mr. wayne knight joins me next. at johnson's we care about safety as much as you do.
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cnn is counting down to our next original series, this sunday, we take a look back at the final decade of the 20th century, "the nineties." washington was defined by bill clinton and a contract with america. seattle was the center of the music universe, and a sitcom about nothing ruled primetime television. "seinfeld" was about four quirky new yorkers and one hot mess of a mailman. newman. >> kramer! kramer! kramer! kramer! >> i'm in here. come on. >> hello, newman. >> kramer. >> hello, boys. >> oh! >> hello, newman. >> hey, hey. >> hello, newman. >> hello, jerry. >> hello, newman. >> hello, jerry.
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>> hello, newman. >> hello, jerry. kramer. >> hello, newman. >> hello, jerry. >> hello, newman. >> good night, jerry. >> good night, newman. >> hello, jerry. may i come in? >> what do you want? >> nothing. just being neighborly. do you want to hang out? shoot 3 the breeze? >> i'm not let you cheat, newman. you're not getting anywhere near that board. >> jerry, i'm a little insulted. >> you're not a little anything, newman. >> with me now, seinfeld's nemesis, newman himself. wooin knight. hello, wayne. >> hello, brooke. >> i have so many questions for you, beginning with why did jerry hate newman so much?
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>> well, why not? >> i mean, apparently jerry seinfeld has said there was actually no reason. he just felt like it would be much more fun to have a villain on the show. do you think that's what it was? >> i think it kind of evolved that when i started, i was just kind of a side kick to kramer and a friend on his capers and then as time went on, this little wrinkle, you know, the thing with jerry just kind of grew. and before we knew it, we were in it and we never really had a definition as to why. there was plenty of reasons, though. >> walking down the street, especially in the whole heyday of "seinfeld," what would people say to you? >> i don't think you have to wait for the heyday of "seinfeld." >> we're living in the heyday. >> it's been for the past 25 years, they say, newman. hello, newman. and then they act as if they're the first person who ever said it and i am in on the joke, so i let them think that. because if they don't, they'll
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burst. >> you're a good man. how much impact, wayne, did you actually have in creating the newman character? you know, was he based on someone that jerry seinfeld or larry david knew in real life? >> well, i mean, originally, he was supposed to be an african-american man who was about to commit suicide. so, i don't think -- >> stop it. you're pulling my chain. >> no. no. and it originally was a voice done by larry off camera, and then they called me in for this one episode where it was about how long do you have to wait to hit on somebody when their boyfriend is in a coma. and i was the kind of building snitch, and i was going to tell on the fact that jerry was hitting on the girlfriend while the boyfriend was in a coma and i got bought off by a drake's cake. >> who was, other than let's say, you can't say newman, who was your favorite character to interact with on the show? >> oh, i mean, i suppose it was
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with jerry, just because i got to play full dujen there, but michael and i had so many fun things to do as well. i mean, there were scenes that we would work out, you know, kind of off camera, and it began to be almost like a silent film pair. >> watching you guys, i mean, the freezes used in the show became part of our, you know, pop culture lexicon and i would even argue to this day, i still am guilty of the whole yeah dad yada, yada, no shup for you. do you have one favorite phrase from the show? >> i think what happens is this becomes part of pop culture, and now we've got kids, you know, who are coming up to me who weren't even born, you know, when the show was on, so it becomes part of their lexicon and just keeps going. >> do you think now in 2017, an era of -- it's funny watching "seinfeld." it's pre-cell phone, p
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pre-twitter. how do you think "seinfeld" would fall today if we were watching it? >> well, i think it would do well because it really was kind of the beginnings of the recognition of self-absorption. and we seemingly have stayed self-absorbed ever since. >> just backstage, you know, when the cameras weren't rolling, did you all get along? any good gossip you want to share all these years later? it's just us talking. >> no. not really. i think that, you know, there was a -- it felt like it was an opening night on broadway every time you were doing the show. and so, the concentration was on that. it was on being funny. and so, i think we were all trying desperately to be funny to the best of our ability. and it's like being in patton's army, you know, you got to take the next hill. so, we got along pretty well. >> thank you for making us laugh and still laugh all these years
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later. wayne knight, thank you. >> good-bye, brooke. >> good-bye, wayne. do not mitts css cnn's new orig series, t"the nineties." 9:00 eastern here on cnn. we continue on, top of the hour. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. i'm brooke baldwin. here's what's happening now. -- captions by vitac -- this meeting came at the request of the united states as the president is on his way to europe for the g20 summit, which takes on an even greater urgency now, and we have this new video of that missile test by north korea. this is what kim jong un is calling, "a basket of gifts for american bastards." experts say the missile could reach alaska. and in a cnn exclusive, u.s. defense officials say that the two-stage missile is a brand-new weapon that