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putin. trump slamming his predecessor, dismissing u.s. intelligence, and questioning whether russia alone meddled in the u.s. election. saying others may have known, his quote. >> after a meeting with poland's leader, president trump continuing his attacks on the media and responding to the escalation from north korea. the president facing serious foreign policy tests on this overseas trip. on several fronts. in about one hour he will deliver a speech to the polish people. you will see that live on "new day." we've t covered this morning. let's begin with sara murray live in warsaw where the president is about to give that speech. sara, what did you make of the press conference? >> reporter: pretty remarkable comments from president trump in his press conference today alongside the polish president. one of the things that's sure to raise eyebrows is president trump questioning whether it was just russia that was behind hacking in the 2016 election and
blaming his predecessor, barack obama. >> i think it could very well have been russia, but it could have been other countries. i won't be specific. i think a lot of people interfered. i think it's been happening for a long time. it's been happening for many years. the thing i have to mention is that barack obama when he was president found out about this in terms of if it were russia. find out about it in august. they say he choked. well, i don't think he choked. i think what happened is he thought hillary clinton was going to win the election, and he said let's not do anything about it. >> reporter: whether president trump is inclined to accept it over not, 17 u.s. intelligence agencies did find that russia tried to interfere in the 2016 election. they did not conclude that there was any other country involved. obviously anything the president says about russia is going to be closely scrutinized on this trip. there are other diplomatic issues and challenges he's facing. of course, one of those pressing
ones is how to navigate north korea. the president was asked about that today. he said he has a strong response in mind. he doesn't want to draw any red >> as far as north korea is concerned, i don't know. we'll see what happens. i tonight like to talk about what i have planned. but we have severe things we're thinking about. i don't draw red lines. president obama drew a red line. and i was the one that made it look a little better than it was. i think we'll look at what happens over the coming weeks and months, with respect to north korea. it's a shame that they're behaving this way. but they're behaving in a very, very dangerous manner. and something will have to be done about it. >> reporter: we got another taste of president trump's
unorthodox approach to diplomacy on the world stage. he opened up that press conference by calling on a reporter that's interviewed for jobs in the trump white house. and he proceeded to bash cnn and other news outlets. questioning the free press at the same time he's appear in portland, where they're cracking down on a free pressu as well a on the courts. what we see from trump again is a different approach from a u.s. president. we're used to them going abroad and touting u.s. values. instead, we saw trump take aim at the free press an question conclusions from his own u.s. intelligence agencies. just a reminder that president trump remains as unpredictable on the world stage as he is at home. back to you guys. >> all right, sara. a little odd there. the president bringing the pettiness of the american forum to poland. let's discuss this wobbly start. bring in robin white.
karoon. and in hamburg, david sanger. let's do this. robin and everybody else, thank you for being with us. we're going to listen to this extended interplay between the president of the united states and an nbc reporter, that kind of set the stage for his message this morning. here it is. >> will you once and for all, yes or no, say that russia interfered in the 2016 election? >> i think it was russia. it could have been a lot of people. i said it simply. it could well have been russia. but it could have been other countries. and i won't be specific. i think a lot of people interfere. i think it's been happening for a long time. happening for many, many years. the thing i have to mention is that barack obama, when he was president, found out about this, in terms of, if it were russia. found out about it in august.
the election is in november. that's a lot of time. he did nothing about it. why did he do nothing about it? he was told it was russia by the cia, as i understand it, it was well reported. he did nothing about it. they say he choked. i tonight think he choked. i think what happened is he thought hillary clinton was going to win the election. and he said, let's not do anything about it. had he thought the other way, he would have doning in about i. he was told in early august by, presumably the cia, that russia was trying to get involved, or meddling, pretty strongly be with the election. he did nothing about it. he thought hillary was going to win. if he thought i was going to win, he would have done something about it. why did he do nothing? his people said he choked.
>> the follow-up to you, mr. president, you think i was russia. your intelligence agencies have been more definitive. they say it was russia. why won't you agree with them? >> i heard it was 17 agencies. that's a lot. to we have that many intelligence agencies, right? let's check it. we did research. it turned out to be three or four. and many of your compatriots had to change their reporting and had to apologize and had to correct. now, with that being said, it was russia. and/or people and/or countries. i see nothing wrong with that statement. nobody really knows. nobody real hi knows for sure. i remember sitting back, listening about iraq.
weapons of mass trdestruction. everybody was 100% sure, weapons of mass destruction. that led to one big mess. they were wrong and it led to a mess. it was russia. and i think it was probably others also. and that's been going on for a long period of time. my big question is why did obama do nothing about it, from august the way to november? if he did nothing about it and it wasn't because he choked. >> two questions. thank you very much. you must two. >> briefly follow-up, mr. president. why haven't you showed that anger towards moscow. can i ask -- president duda. thank you. >> so, let's fwt soget some rea on this. john avlon, the idea of the president of the united states. you two across to trump and american values.
you leave the interplay at home. he didn't do that. he wound up echoing something we often hear from russian intelligence intelligence. they bring up weapons of mass destruction and how that was wrong. odd to hear it from an american president? >> odd to hear it from a president. incredibly odd to hear it on a foreign trip. he was going to step up his game and he understood the statesmanship. he goes out of his way to raise all of the teamedemons and figh domestic policies. he questions the obama administration and their act, with record to russian hacks and questions our own intelligence agencies. he had to condition firm how many intelligence agencies there are. this elevates it to a new level because it's dangerous to have a
president not defending american values. and it puts the pressure an enemy that recites russian talking points and muddles consensus about with everyone else, that there was russian hacking in the election and this is dangerous for our democracy. >> the president seemed to be making arguments in the same breath. he didn't say yes, it was russia they should be punished for it. he said, i think it was russia. but it was probably other people and ones. and he went on to lambaste president obama when he and his administration has not taken on to russia about it. we tonight know if he will speak to vladimir putin about it. >> that's right. and muddling the question of wlos whether or not it was russia, it
gives him an out to soft sell this to president putin when he meets him tomorrow. he says it was russia and others, suggests that everyone does it. let's be clear on a couple of things that the intelligence community concluded. it wasn't all 17 agencies that came to this conclusion. only a few were involved in this effort. the cia, the nsa. it was gathered by the national intelligence and the fbi. and the director of national intelligence represents the intelligence community. that's where the confusion of the number 17 rolled in. secondly, their conversation was very specific. not only that was ordered up by russia but it was ordered by president putin, who he is meeting tomorrow. and the routine he went into about president obama knew and
didn't know. you can make an argument that president obama underreacted. many former members of the obama administration wish they acted more strongly. he may be right if they would have acted differently if they thought that hillary clinton was going to lose. we will never know this. but none of this is new. this was playing out on the front pages in real-time. we reported in "the times" in july, before he said that president obama knew of this in august. it's not like any of this was not publicly known as this was all playing out. and president obama would tell you, he sat down with putin in his last meeting with him, warned him off of this and meddling in the actual count of the election in november. >> there's a bigger situation emerging on this trip, even in its infancy here, robin. the president's party was so
critical of president obama and rightly so. you don't go abroad and bash your own country. you two out and put the best foot forward, especially in a place like poland, where they are battling their own individual liberty fights right now. and america is supposed to be out there to share itself at its best. that's not what president trump did. do you think that deserves criticism the way president obama got it from his own party? >> this is a pivotal time for trump. the first trip was soft. this is going to be much harder. in his speech he is to give shortly, he is going to talk about the importance of the west rallying together. and he faces the biggest foreign policy challenge yet in north korea. and he is using this or squandering this opportunity to show leadership by delving back
into what the previous administration did. what was striking about that comment and question about russia, he never vladimir putin by name, on the eve of his trip or visit and meeting with vladimir putin. he is dodging the big issues. he does not look like he has the command he hopes to try to reflect in the speech he's about to give. this is a tough moment. and he's, once again, going back into the personal issue. he began his comments on this stage, by talking about how many polish-americans had voted for him. >> if you could weigh in on how you would compare the president's reaction to the media and different media outlets, versus his reaction to the question about north korea and kim jong-un. he never said vladimir putin. i listened to the presser. i didn't hear him -- the called out the north korean regime.
but the anger that he took on the media, did it seem disproportional, standing next to president duda? >> it's odd but not surprising coming from him. donald trump has been in campaign mode since his inauguration. he has focused on the media every time something goes wrong in his policy. he has shied away speaking forcefully about other people that might be causing problems, as even his intelligence community has assessed is the case. and this is odd behavior from somebody who is going overseas to represent the united states. that's a point at which the president is supposed to be the one voice representing the whole country and not talking about divisions and squabbles that are left over from the last election season. this is classic donald trump to be doing this thing. to be focusing on how the media is portraying him badly, if he comes off badly. how obama set him up by refusing
to his own present, is an underreaction, given the continued probes in the meddling and he's going to meet with putin for the first time. this is extrapolation that it is addressing the issue of north korea. but turning and letting more of his ire be focused on those who are portraying the things he's doing instead of what he's -- the substance of it. >> chris, you raised an interesting point and parallel. the refrain is that the president would go on apology tours. >> 2009. >> alienating our allies and embracing our enemies. you could feel the indignation. and here, the republican president is doing it on his first major trip, which is going to be confrontational in the world seas. and the first opportunity to
speak, he is running down our country and institutions and raising all of the specters of domestic politics that line up with his emotional agenda and not the national interest and the work to be done. that's dangerous and hypocritical. >> the big test will be what he says about north korea. and some of the prepared comments, objectively are solid. we understand the message that's going to come out of them. let's play some of the sound about north korea, during the press conference. and we'll discuss how it's different than what the planned message might be. >> i don't like to talk about what i have planned. but i have some pretty severe things we're thinking about. i don't draw red lines. president obama drew a red line. and i was the one that made it look better than it was. but that could have happened a lot sooner and you wouldn't have the situation that you have right now in syria. that was a big mistake.
we'll look at what happens over the coming weeks and months, with respect to north korea. it's a shame they're behaving this way. but they're behaving in a very, very dangerous manner. and something will have to be done about it. >> david sanger, those comments seem unformulated. it's different from the advance notes we got from the white house, that they are working allies. there are strategies in place for levers and sanctions that can be used. you didn't hear that in that statement. what's your take? >> well, first of all, there's a lack of discipline in how he talks about these things. things that happen with presidents in their first year. but you would any on north korea, the issue that he's had to deal with most intently over the past six months and come way up a learning curve, he would be more specific. and we expect he will be in the speech. let's face it, chris.
if an increase in sanctions was going to change the behavior of north korea, it would have happened over the last 20 years. every administration, democratic and republican we had, have responded to each new incremental north korean advance, by saying we will impose the most severe sanctions ever. there's son-in-lonly so much yo sanction a country, that's been under every sanction you can imagine since 1953. let's face it. that's not a strategy that's going to get kim jong-un to give up his missiles and nuclear weapons, which is the stated end goal of american strategy. he's going to have to come up with something more convincing than that. and we know that military action, for reasons we've laid out in "the times" today and others have done elsewhere, is not a live option for him, at least and unless we're under an immediate and imminent threat. >> david, as you wrote, a
pruittal education about the limited options he has in facing north korea. thank you very much. ladies, gentlemen, we appreciate it. we have a lot ahead here. president trump, one day away from the face-to-face talks with vladimir putin. how is he preparing for this historic meeting? we get some color from the white house. and you'll hear next.
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today, president trump is in friendly territory in portlalan right now. you're looking at crowds in warsaw waiting for him to speak. you'll hear that live. the challenges that lie ahead of the g20 are ahead. that's where he will sit down face-to-face. our panel back with us. looking at how those around the president look at how he will approach or could approach this meeting, mcmaster saying anything is on the table. we'll see. versus how the president is going to approach it, rex tillerson, secretary of state saying, it's difficult to say what russia's intentions are in this relationship. it seems opposed to how the president enters this meeting. how do you see it? >> this is the fundamental
contradiction of the administration. you have a national security team, that's effective, particularly mcmaster and james mattis. trying to create continuity in american strategy, a more forceful tone on the world stage. and the problem is the president keeps undercutting his administration's own positions with tweet storms and questions at press conferences that go off the rails. and there's folks that are trying to create continuity and a strong line. they're trying to contain the president. president trump, no pun intended, he has the bully bu pulpit, the twitter account. >> those believe that this is the meeting that they're setting themselves up for disappointment. we just heard the president question u.s. intel and leave logic aside. on the iraq war, he questions u.s. intelligence. it's important to him that that war had been the wrong decision.
he would be perceived he's been against it. he doesn't believe about russian sp interference. he believes them about north korea, even though that's not our best intel bank when it comes to understanding that nation. but he believes the north korea intel. he just ran down the russian intel. he wouldn't mention putin by name. doesn't that tell you everything you need to know in terms of his posture entering the meeting with the russian president? >> this is the most important meeting the president has had since taking office. he's meeting with the shrewdist leader on the stage. someone who has lived through four presidencies. someone who is involved to the details. he knows these issues. and i think, you know, he has been, also engaged in
psychological war fafare. he brought in his dog with angela merkel who is afraid of dogs. he is a tough manipulator. and trump, who is learning foreign policy, will find that as some in the policy community fear that bhutan will eat him for lunch. what are the deliverables? the challenge in this meeting on what could they probably agree? there's profound differences on ukraine. an syria, there's movement on de-escalation zones. but it gets complicated when you get in specifics. on north korea, china and russia have taken a tough stand at the united nations, saying they don't want to go along with u.s. proposal for tough, new sanctions. this is a meeting where it's going to be hard to see what
president trump can come out of this, to show he is tougher or tough as vladimir putin. >> david sanger, if the president decides not to bring up russia's meddling in the u.s. election, what would benefit him domestically here at home, or in the eyes of vladimir putin, because he would be opening himself up to vast criticism on the domestic front for not bringing that up, especially after his criticism of president obama, ben today, for not doing more on russia. and in the eyes of putin, we know that putin values strength. wouldn't he see that as a weakness? >> he certainly would. and there's an easy way out of this. you can make a brief reference to the history and say, mr. putin, forget about what happened last year. let's talk about what you're doing now and what you will be or will not be doing in the future. it's not like russia's cyber
activity has stopped. you saw them attempt to meddle in the french election. there's an election in germany in cement, where we've seen russian activity. i think a big question about whether or not he can begin to convey to president putin, if he stays on the path he's on, he's headed towards the old classic about the american containment of russia. he's got three or four big objectives here, which robin eluded to. common ground in syria, perhaps. he's got to somehow come down pretty hard on the russian continued activity in ukraine. when i interviewed president trump as a candidate, he didn't seem spectacularly concerned about what they were doing in ukrai ukraine. we'll have to see if his view has changed. he has to figure out how to stop mr. putin's efforts to try to
meddle in the current european elections with american allies. and finally, on the nuclear front, he has to figure out how to deal with a big russian violation of nuclear accord, intermediate missiles that has been going on for some time. if he didn't explain how to discuss the topics and what ground he layed f elaid for thal be a problematic meeting. >> it's leverage when you say your intel community gets things wrong. you've given him good entree for allegations in that meeting. it won't just be russia-specific. you have an interweaving, dove tailing of issues on syria and north korea, that will involve russia. but very important, intense meetings with the president of china, xi, at the g20, and with
germa germany's leader. we have a card for xi that can come up. this will matter. north korea, you had xi and the russian president, just to remind people, they put out a statement, basically making north korea and the united states sound like equal aggressors in the situation. north korea has to stand down and south korea and the u.s. has to stand down. >> the u.s. has been taking a tougher line on china. but president trump is surround by bad options in all of the hot spots of the world. he has to be a statesman. this is one of the problems. it's tough to be leader of the free world and king of the trolls at the same time. he has to deal with the reality that what he's dealing with is responsibility across the board. that's not his natural mode. >> appreciate it. we're going to get more grist for the mill in the next hour, when the president delivers his prepared remarks.
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the growing threat from north korea is hanging over president trump's visit to the g20 summit this week. he says he is considering, quote, pretty severe things to counter to north korean threat. what does that mean? and what options does he have on the table? let's bring in david mckenzie. he is live in seoul, south korea. >> good morning, poppy. around the world and in the u.s., they were waiting to hear what president trump would say about the korean issue. the north korean crisis and possibly the most dangerous period we've seen from the korean peninsula in a long time.
and what he said came from a position of strength. but it was low on details. >> we must also confront the threat from north korea. that's what it is, a threat. we will confront it very strongly. president duda and i call on all nations to confront this global threat and publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences for their very, very bad behavior. i have some pretty severe things we're thinking about. that doesn't mean we're going to do them. i don't draw red lines. >> reporter: well, certainly, those red lines, he says he doesn't draw. but on the table, potentially, could be some kind of military option. most analysts say that could be disastrous for cities like seoul, permanently in the firing line of north korea.
and you have russia and china, who have drawn the wagons over their approach, saying that the u.s. and south korea could stop their provocations in their view, to get to the negotiating table. chris? >> yeah. that was a strong statement that came from the russians and china there, basically putting north korea and the u.s. on even footing in this dispute. david mckenzie, thank you very much. the trump administration, insisting the use of force is on the table to deal with north korea. what options would the u.s. have? what could be the plan? we have an expert with the realities, next. whoa!
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president trump is in poland this morning. he's going to give a speech in a little less than an hour. we'll bring it to you. earlier, he says he doesn't draw red lines but he is considering, quote, pretty severe things when it comes to north korea. officials believe the missile tested this week had the capability to reach alaska. this is a new threat for north korea. what are the options? let's discuss. with army retired general james marks. options, military, diplomatic.
we keep hearing everybody say all bad options. no good options. nothing has changed in north korea for so long. how do you see it, gordon? is that true? is there nothing that can be done? >> there's a lot that can be dorn but there are no options. we pursued several policies and that's left the american people in peril. everything is going to cost the united states in different ways. we can enforce our own lows. we can drive chinese banks out of business. it's bank of china that was implicated in a money laundering scheme by the u.n. last year. there's military options that people don't talk about. interdicting shipping carrying weapons to iran. we don't have authority under u.n. rules of boarding north korean ships. but the north koreans have
abgated the peace armistice and that gives us the authority to seek north korean ships. we should stop the flow of missiles to iran and weapons to other countries. that's unacceptable and dangerous to not only our interest but the interest of the international community. >> general, do you agrow that we would not interdict with these types of shipping operations? and what do you see as the option? >> as gordon said, absolutely, i doubt the united states would take that type of operation. it is very provocative if we did. however, it should be done. we should be provocative. arguably, everything we have done to date, has had zero effect on north korean behavior. that's the concern i have. we were to have other military options would be increasing naval presence in the region. increasing the deployment of bombers and attack aircraft.
we've done that before. increase special operations. increase military collection. the priority for intelligence collection can go to the north. understand all of our intelligence collection has to compete with all of the other challenges going on in the world at one time. there's a number of things we can do, in many cases, what gordon just described and what i'm offering right now are things we should do, understanding that we want to try to avoid, pushing too hard against the regime in the north. you could have what are not unintended consequences but what are absolutely known consequences of kim feeling threatened and his ability to do some tremendous damage against the south immediately. that has to be avoided. >> now, you understand the intel situation there intimately, general. were you surprised to hear about the icbm and its capacities? >> no. not at all.
look, north korea, since '09, has pulled itself out of any -- it may have been a charade in terms of the protocols for nuke development. they have been able to get the technology that gordon described from pakistan, from iran, others, to achieve this capability. what we saw with the launch looks like probably solid fuel, which is denser, which gives you more thrust, and gives you more altitude, which is exactly what they achieved. and the additional piece, was a reentry vehicle. they brought this back down. they put things in space before, that's it. they've never been able to take ate from extra atmospheric and bring it back down to earth. they did just the other day. that should be very, very concerning to us and it is. >> you get to this per flplexin question. the general said something we hear from time to time. north korea doesn't operate in a
vacuum, whether it's pakistan, iran, china or russia. they have people, friends or allies or convenient operatives in specific situations. they're there. what about those angles? are those plumbed enough by the united states? are there abilities in working with the north koreans? >> that's exactly where we need to go. we can increase sanctions on north korea, but only by a little bit. what we really need to do is make sure the sanctions are enforced by other security council members, china and russia. and also, we have to make sure south korea doesn't try to help north korea. they have a pro-north korean president. the real issue here is china. the missile we saw yesterday, that was carried to the launch site on a chinese launcher, president trump, instead of talking about cnn, he should have been saying to the chinese and public, at conference, how come they're launching chinese missiles? this is completely unacceptable. he needs to actually bring this,
not only to his, you know, private discussions, but public ones, as well. as i mentioned, there's a suite of options that we have, against china, russia, the rest of them. >> general, gordon, let's see what the president says, in his prepared remarks, if this issue comes up in poland or the g20. we'll have more to work off and give you perspective on whether or not we're finding a better way forward. >> we hope it comes up. >> poppy? >> it will. a russian tennis star apologizing after making a memorable exit at wimbledon. next, in "the beacher report."
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u.s. allies on the ground in syria, have breached a wall surrounding raqqah, that's a key campaign to liberate raqqah. liberation of that city from isis is imminent. the question becomes, what happens next? then what? let's bring in barbara starr and cnn investigative reporter for international affairs, michael weiss. barbara, you've talked repeat thi edly about this and it's imminent. if raqqah is freed, what does raqqah taking away from isis accomplish? how significant is it? they are still a potent force, even without raqqah. >> reporter: they are. they will remain a potent force.
that's a risk to u.s. national security. the continuing ability of the isis. whether they have control of raqqah or not, to be able to inspire attacks, direct attacks, plot and plan. president trump's so-called isis strategy has been the same as president obama's. bomb, conduct combat operations, train local forces to go after them. you know. do more war, if you will. but that's not really going to solve the isis problem. if you get them out of raqqah, they've already moved southeast into the euphrates river valley. you can pursue them there, of course. this is an ideology. this is a long-term generational prospect for reconstruction of these areas for rebuilding that's going to cost billions of dollars. will the u.s. really be there for this area? but syria is a unique example because it's bashar al assad's
country, isn't it? he has the russians and the iranians behind him. you get isis out of raqqah, how soon before bashar al assad and his forces come back in. >> that creates a hole. and who fills that hole? assad still rules syria. so, michael, help me understand something. secretary of state tillerson had a long statementy e. and he writes, isis can get out of syria, if all parties focus on that objective. he writes that russia must remove the obstacles to defeat isis. he pointed out russia. what are they? does it signal to you that he has russia's confidence on that front? >> when russia went to war in syria in september of 2015, they didn't go after isis, though that was the fanfare of intervnginte interventi intervention. they went after rebel groups and
other oppositions groups that are deemed more a menace. not to say jihadist, but the -- when bashar -- >> michael, stand by, having a hard time hearing you. we're only getting about every other word. barbara, let me go to you on that front. >> well, look. i think that in terms of syria, the see issue right now, if you're going to defeat isis, has always been to a very large extent, russia's support for bashar al assad. if president trump at the g20, when he meets president putin, is going to talk about syria, he's going to talk about support for assad. russia is not backing off. russia wants to stay in syria. they want that toe hold in the middle east and iran also. influencing the militia movements there. again, you know, the whole question of whether you can
defeat isis in syria, you can defeat them where they stand on the ground. you can kill them off. exactly where they stand. do you defeat the movement? and do you actually have raqqah come back under civilian control for the ben put tefit of the pe who live there. how soon until russia continues to exert its influence? if russia comes back with assad, into areas like raqqah, into the euphrates river valley, if they expand their sphere of influence, how long before the u.s.-backed forces. the syrian democratic forces, the kurds, the arabs, that the u.s. has been trying to train to fought and have been making progress against isis. how long before those forces are pushed to the background or even worse? >> we're watching mosul even closer, given that it is believe that a retake in mosul is imminent. you reported a lot bout, barbara, is what happens then?
what fills the hole left in mosul? what is a post-isis mosul look for all of the people that call it home. barbara star, thank you for reporting from the pentagon. a lot of news. president trump about to speak in poland. "new day" continues right now. >> barack obama found out about this in terms of if i were russia. he did nothing about it. >> trump will come face-to-face for the first time with vladimir putin. >> the president should be trying to prepare for this trip. we also know the president keeps stepping on his own message. >> we want to see fair press. we don't want fake news. >> every eyeball in the world will be watching him. >> they are behaving in a very, very dangerous manner. and something will have to be done about it. >> it's not going to be twitter diplomacy that's going to make any progress here. >> north korea does not want to be part of a peaceful world.