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>> no doubt about it. >> russian spies are ramping up their intelligence gathering efforts in the united states. >> i'm not surprised the russians feel as if the cold war is back on. >> safe to say now that president trump is an enabler of russia's interference. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." friday, july 7th. 8:00 in the east. alisyn is off. poppy harlow by my side. the big stakes showdown at the g20 showdown happening soon. in less than two hours, the two men on your screen, the big bilateral meeting between the president of the united states and the leader of russia. what will be on the agenda? that will be the posture? big question from the american perspective is will russia's meddling in, the leelection be addressed? >> sources tell cnn that since the election, russian spies have step upped their intelligence
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gathering efforts in this country. they are emboldened by the lack of response from the obama and trump administrations. let's begin with sara murray live in hamburg with the latest on the g20. the leaders have met and had the handshake everyone was waiting for. now what? >> that's right. they've had their quick meet and greet. the more substantive part comes later. and that is what everyone is going to be scrutinizing, whether it's the body language, whether it's public statements, whatever they do, the world is watching this highly anticipated meeting. >> if putin likes donald trump, guess what, folks? that's called an asset. i hope we have a fantastic relationship. i don't love, i don't hate -- we'll see how it works. >> reporter: after months of anticipation, president trump set to come face-to-face with russian president vladimir putin. the controversial head of state behind the 2016 election
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interference that has haunted the trump presidency. the pair will meet today for 30 minutes. accompanied only by their translators and top diplomats. russian foreign minister sergey lavrov and secretary of state rex tillerson who has a longstanding relationship with president putin. >> we've begun an effort to begin to rebuild confidence between ourselves and russia. >> reporter: tillerson is one of the top officials who has been hurredly preparing the president for the high-stakes face-off. white house advisers say the agenda is not set but key issues could include the conflict in syria, north korea and russian aggression in ukraine, which led to sanctions. sources say president trump has been presented with a large binder of briefing materials for the g20 summit. but only a few pages of notes and bullet points on his putin meeting. >> we urge russia to cease its activities in ukraine and elsewhere.
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>> reporter: trump delivered a tough message ahead of today's meeting. pledging aalliance in the face of aggression. >> we stand firmly behind article 5, the mutual defense commitment. >> reporter: but just hours earlier, the president stopped short of condemning moscow for meddling in the 2016 election. >> i think it was probably other people and/or countries and i see nothing wrong with that statement. nobody really knows. >> reporter: the statement undercutting the conclusions of his own intelligence community. >> there's absolutely no doubt about it in the high intelligence levels, the multiple sources of information we had and this high fidelity still leave me very convinced of the veracity of that report. >> reporter: it remains unclear if president trump will bring up the election hacking today. but a growing number of lawmakers are urging the president to raise the issue. >> i don't understand how the united states president can
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protect the country if he's not willing to sit down with vladimir putin and look him in the eye and say, i know you did this. it will stop. >> reporter: before this trump/putin meeting, there's plenty of other work to be done. a little pomp and circumstance also. the world leaders just got together for what is known as the family photo for the g20. now they are in a closed session. back to you guys. >> sara murray, thank you for that reporting. with president trump ready to meet with vladimir putin, cnn has new reporting on concerns within the u.s. intelligence agency about stepped up russian spying efforts in this country, increasing since the election. we're joined now. what have you learned? >> that's right. so russian spies are ramping up their intelligence gathering efforts in the u.s. according to current and former u.s. intelligence officials who have noticed an increase since the election. the russians have not been slowed by retaliatory efforts
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after it middled in the u.s. election. officials say they've been replenishing their ranks since the u.s. expelled 35 russian diplomats suspected of spying last december. in some cases, russian spies have tried to gain employment, at places with sensitive information. the fbi would not comment for the story, and the russian embassy doesn't respond to a request for comment. >> this is something that is known by former and current intelligence officials in the united states. are they stopping it? are they taking action? >> well, there is some activity, obviously, which is ongoing, and there's surveillance. but the issue here is even after the meddling in the 2016 u.s. elections, both the obama and trump administrations have been slow to take measures to respond to the intelligence threat, according to the current former -- current and former u.s. officials. also, partisan politic disagreements over the russian activity and president donald
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trump's reluctance to accept intelligence conclusions about russian meddling in the election has slowed efforts to counter the threat. another issue here is that there's an ongoing frustration with the state department over the granting of visas to people the u.s. intelligence suspect are intelligence officers. a state department official would not comment specifically on the visas. we are told that there are fbi officials as part of their counterintelligence surveillance. they try to keep an eye on some of this activity. poppy, chris? >> shimon, appreciate it. we've got rear admiral john kirby, cnn political director david chalian and global affairs analyst and former deputy secretary of state, tony blanken. let's look at all the corners of this, shall we? so putin/trump. the big meeting. sgog it, you are advising the president. where is your head? terms of the coaching that goes into something like this? how do you diagnose the man?
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how do you diagnose the moment? how do you prep? >> first, the president really needs to deal with the elephant in the room and that's russian meddling in the election. >> why not syria? why not -- >> if you don't throw that away you'll never get to something on syria or ukraine. as long as the president is not seen as confronting it, not even acknowledging it, congress is going to keep tying his hands. they won't let him pursue any cooperation with russia. he needs to deal with it. plus, failure to confront it remeans russia remains emboldened. if they are not confronted, they'll keep doing it. and 2018, 2020, all of that is still ahead of us. that's the first thing. the second thing the president needs to know is vladimir putin is incredibly well prepared for these meetings. he's a master of detail. clear agenda with clear details. >> former kgb agent to boot. >> exactly. >> president trump is not the
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first u.s. president, by a long shot, to think that they can foster a relatively warm, open, cordial at least relationship with vladimir putin. i mean, president bush thought i trusted him. i saw into his soul. i invited him to the ranch. he's not the first. is he misguided? >> certainly not the first but to tony's point, i think it was mcmaster that said there's no specific agenda. the president will discuss what's on his mind. that presents the problem. the political situation that donald trump faces is that at the height of skepticism about putin and russia here at home, amongst everyone on capitol hill, the intelligence community, what have you, enters now the dealmaker president who is always looking to find a deal and common ground on something into this meeting without necessarily a fully prepared agenda. i think that is what has some of
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donald trump's closest aides a little nervous about this meeting. >> a little bit of the prep here is you say he says. you're going to go through what you expect dialogue to be. so let's take tony's point as a premise. you have to deal with the election situation. how do you see that conversation going. what would you be prepping our president for? >> assuming they're going to have it, and i don'ting that they will, i think tony is right. it should be the first thing on the agenda. clear tup and say, look, even if he haven't want to talk about it from a retrospective, but they think it challenges the legitimacy of his win, he should at least raise it because we have elections coming up. a midterm in 2018, another presidential election in 2020. >> what does he say? >> he says, we know what you did. our intelligence agencies know exactly what you did. we're not going to let this go forward. we're going to develop processes and systems and make sure that you won't have the ability to do this again. you have to knock it off. >> what do you anticipate as a response?
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>> putin will say that, i don't know what you're talking about. we don't meddle in other political affairs, despite the fact that 2014 election in ukraine and this year's election in germany and probably france as well. he'll deny he had anything to do with it. it needs to be brought up first and get it off the table. the other thing this does, if he doesn't raise this issue, maybe looking forward to 2018, 2020, if he doesn't raise this issue, the russians are going to say this is -- they are going to have little incentive to want to try to work with us on other issues. they are going to feel even more emboldened. if he can't even raise the fact of election meddling, there will be little incentive for them to give way on anything else whether ukraine or syria. >> do you think it changed anything in his meeting. yesterday he affirmed article 5 of nato, something russia doesn't want to see and also called out russia directly on ukraine. >> i would guess that putin sees
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that as sort of necessary boxes that donald trump is checking. he's far more interested to find out what president trump is going to say on those matters, person to person. i think what -- i think the election meddling piece that trump talked about in his press conference and not refusing to say russia is responsible full stop, nothing else, that's the answer, i think was a huge gift to putin heading into this meeting. >> so in a meeting like this, like any other high-stakes meeting, you have to know what the other person wants. so where is the united states heading. what is the big ask from putin? >> the big ask is, stop meddling in our elections. >> that's two now. >> he's got two things on his mind. of course, he'd like to see sanctions relief over ukraine. that's one. he's looking for cooperation on syria and on his terms, keeping assad in place, trying to have some of these protection zones the russians would police for
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the syrians. that's what he's looking for. there may be reason and grounds to try to pursue cooperation on syria, but unless you deal with the election meddling piece, congress will tie up the president in allowing that to happen. poppy referenced the speech yesterday. a good speech in many ways. the president tried to present himself as the leader of the west and said do we have the will to survive? if you're not going to confront the single biggest challenge to the west -- that is russia trying to undermine confidence in our institutions and leaders, then the answer has to be no. that's why this is so critical that he use this moment to set a clear marker with putin. >> we have this pbs/marist poll about how people feel about trump's deal with russia. it's split. 54% of americans think it is unethical or illegal. it's actually 36%, i believe, think that nothing is wrong. and 10% are unsure. so it's not, you know, it's not
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completely one sided. >> no, it's not. obviously, there's some people that have different views on all sides of this. we have to let the investigations continue before we really know. take the issue of collusion off the table for just a second because we don't really know what happened there. but we do know that they messed with our election and they will do it again. and it's something that has to be dealt with forthrightly or simply the russians will continue to be emboldened, not only to do it to us but others of our european partners and will find room here, leash, to try to take advantage of us going forward. >> david, what's a win today for the president of the united states? >> domestically here at home, if he can emerge from that meeting saying that he did tell putin that he knew -- that the u.s. is well aware of what he did in the election system and to knock it off, you can imagine that being a win for him. absent any talk about the election meddling, it's tough to see any win out of this meeting
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for trump. >> what about a win on foreign policy? to you, tony. >> you have to get rid of the elephant. but if he comes out of this meeting and, again, has asserted himself as the leader of the west of our values, and of our ideals, that would be a win. and if he acts in the meeting in accordance with what he said in his speech in poland, that would be a good thing. but there's this constant contrast between a decent speech and the president himself going out in a press conference, not even acknowledging the meddling. actually attacking our own media and intelligence community, in eastern europe of all places. that undermines everything he's tried to accomplish standing up for the west, standing up for nato. >> the speech came second. hopefully that will be the last statement of where his head is on the issue in terms of having a strong spine when he stands up to vladimir putin. we'll have to see. >> we'll watch it. gentlemen, thank you very much. protesters taking to the streets outside of the g20.
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hamburg police are trying to disrupt the summit. this happens at pretty much every g20. protesters are keeping the first lady melania from attending some of the events. frederik pleitgen is live in hamburg with the details. what did you see? >> hi, poppy. good morning. melania trump wanted to attend a meeting at the german research climate institute organized by angela merkel's husband. she was not able to do that because she wasn't able to leave the place where she's staying because she didn't get a security clearance from the german police. one of the reasons why, there's some burned out cars here. this actually happened this morning at around 8:00 a.m. when a bunch of people ran through here and set a lot of cars on fire. set a bus station on fire as well. it makes for different protests than we saw yesterday. they were very large-scale protests that happened with rioting as well. today it's more hit and run things. earlier this morning. there's smaller protests being
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staged with groups trying to get into the protest venue, trying to breach that security zone. it's certainly keeping the police on their toes and the police here in hamburg have said they've already called for more reinforcements than the 20,000 cops they already have on scene here in the city, chris. >> again, just because it happens often doesn't mean that it's easy to control. and you are seeing the reality of that on the ground. be safe, my friend. from ukraine to syria, there are a lot of topics on the table between these two powerful men. putin and trump. they shook hands. they're going to meet. is the big one what you just heard? does the president of the united states have to make this meeting start with russian election interference? we'll talk with a republican congressman. what does he want from his president? next. introducing the new sleep number 360™ smart bed. the only bed smart enough to change sleep as we know it. it senses your every move and automatically adjusts
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in less than two hours, presidents trump and putin are going to sit down for their high-stakes meeting. russian spies are ramping up their intel gathering in the u.s. in the aftermath of the 2016 election. with us, republican chairman mike mccall, a senior member of the house foreign affairs committee. good to have you with us, congressman. >> good morning, chris. >> so this sense of urgency that the president of the united states needs to address russian interference in our election first and make it a priority in this meet with vladimir putin. do you agree?
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>> it's not on the formal agenda, but i do think the president needs to get this out on the table and address it directly with putin. he will deny it. i've heard him say that in the past. the foreign minister. i've seen hum denying they did this. it's important the president let putin know that we know he did this. you know, i got briefed on this before the november elections. i asked the obama administration to call out putin for what he was doing. we need to have consequences to those actions, and we, quite frankly, chris, haven't seen that. i think this is the opportunity and not only from a policy standpoint but politically. for the president to bring this up directly with putin and tell him that we know he's doing this and to stop. if he doesn't, there will be consequences. >> do you think the president believes in what you're asking him to say to putin? you heard what he said in the press conference yesterday. he still says nobody really knows. he disagrees with the intel assessment from the intelligence
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community. he disagrees with what people like you just said. >> well, i think it's -- i had the briefings classified. i've had a lot of classified briefings. it is clear and convincing evidence that russia was meddling in our election. >> what does the president say? >> i think he knows that and i think the sooner -- >> not what he said. >> once he admits that and muovs on, he'll be in a better position. >> if he knows what you know, and we have to assume the president -- you're wired in. no question about it. you get these briefings, but so does he. he knows everything you know. so why do you think that he continues to deny the reality that's so simple for you to acknowledge? >> well, i think he perhaps thinks it undermines the credibility of his election, possibly. i think he also had a healthy skepticism of the intelligence community in the beginning when they presented the dossier, for instance, to him. but i think since that time, he's grown into the office, and
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has a deeper appreciation and understanding on what the intelligence community can provide in terms of their products, their analysis. it's very important when you go over and meet with foreign leaders to have these intelligence briefings so you know you're dealing with and what the issues are. i do that when i travel overseas like i did to ukraine and i think he's growing into this role. >> what did you see yesterday in terms of growth? it was just yesterday in a press conference he said, yeah, they were wrong about the weapons of -- even embarrassed the intelligence community on the world stage. he said they got the war. he doesn't buy what happened here. could have been somebody else. how does that evidence the growth you're suggesting he's had in confidence in the intelligence community since he entered office? >> well, i think the couple things he did yesterday in poland that was a good departure, a strong commitment to nato -- >> true. >> a strong commitment to back article 5 which, if you attack one, you attack all.
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>> true. >> he did say it was probably russia. that is actually, believe it or not, a step in the right direction. >> but when he sits with putin. i'm just saying, just tactics. i've known the president a long time. i know about how he deals with people in power. i know how he deals in meetings. he can be very impressive. i'm cautioning people who are checking him that, oh, he's going to be outmatched in this meeting. don't rnd sell the president in terms of how he can do one on one. but just on the record, if he says to putin, i know what you did. don't do it again. there's a new sheriff in town, he's giving putin every ability to say, you don't trust your own intel people. they're wrong. i didn't have anything to do with it. he's giving him an ally, isn't he? >> he's a strong personality. i think he'll do very well in this meeting with mr. putin. it's important to emphasize this is an important issue to the american people and to at least
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raise the issue. i think putin will automatically deny it, but as you reported previously, we have an up tick in russian spies coming into the united states now. that concerns me greatly. we know they tried to influence the elections in europe. and they will continue to destabilize. now trump did say, he called against the destabilization from russia. and i think that was a positive thing. but i do think he has to raise it along with syria and ukraine. three big issues with putin right now. but he's got to get that on the table and off the table to move forward. and i think putin needs to be aware this is important to an american president. >> how big a deal do you think the north korean threat is? is there a chance that they're getting close to being able to strike the homeland with one of these longer range missiles? and what do you think should be done about it. >> very concerned. this last launch, icbm, has the
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capability to reach the coast of the united states, hawaii and alaska. they are very, i think, you can debate it. we're not quite sure, but they're trying to miniaturize this warhead to put it on top of this icbm delivery system. so i think it's a very serious threat. i know they're coming up with a military strategy and plan right now off the korean peninsula. really, i think, mostly to push the diplomacy, diplomatic process and economic process to move forward. but i see this as a real threat to the homeland. and it's got to be dealt with by -- he's going to be there. it's a great opportunity for trump when he's with the president, you know, of russia and the president of china to talk to china about putting leverage on north korea to get them to stop this bad behavior. i'll always if you don't have consequences, you'll keep having this bad behavior. >> congressman mccaul,
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appreciate your perspective. always good have you on "new day." >> thanks, chris. it seems like there is a division between defense secretary james mattis and president trump when it comes to the latest north korean missile launch. should the u.s. force -- use force or diplomacy or sit down at the negotiating table? that is something democratic senator ed markey supports. we'll get his take, next.
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as far as north korea is concerned, i don't know. we'll see what happens. i don't like to talk about what i have planned, but i have some severe things that we're thinking about. that doesn't mean we're going to do them. i don't draw red lines. >> just days after north korea launched that intercontinental ballistic missile that could potentially reach the united states, president trump said he's weighing pretty severe things in response. let's discuss with senator ed markey from massachusetts. a top democrat on the east asia subcommittee of the senate foreign relations committee. on north korea, you've been very outspoken. you've written a letter to president trump saying the united states, he and his team, should sit down at the negotiating table with kim jong-un. my question is twofold. a, do you think then that would imply that you think kim jong-un is a rational actor, one that can be negotiated with.
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do you? and what do you think the result of those negotiations would likely be? >> well, we have three options. number one, the status quo. and that is not working. there's just been an ever-increasing capacity in the ballistic missile and nuclear weapons program of north korea. so the existing situation doesn't work. number two, and i would take president trump is talking about this, and that would be increased military activity which could lead to a war, which could lead to catastrophic consequences. i don't think that's a good option. the third option is negotiations. the chinese have been asking the united states to get into direct negotiations with the north koreans. if we did that, we could have more support from the chinese and the russians who each want us to engage in those kinds of
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negotiations. that could lead towards a freeze of the north korean ballistic missile and nuclear weapons program and in return, the united states could be at the table in order to make a determination as to what concessions the united states and south korea might make towards the north koreans. but unless we are sitting at a table, unless we are negotiating, we cannot have any progress that is meaningful in reducing this inevitable path that north korea is on towards having an intercontinental ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead on top that can threaten the mainland of the united states. >> so two things, senator. one of the main reasons why china and russia, one would think, want the united states to back away from other options and sit down at the table is potentially they can get the u.s. to lessen its presence in military drills and activities in the region which would be
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beneficial to them. the other question becomes, what makes you think that kim jong-un is a rational actor to negotiate with? so many past u.s. presidents, republicans and democrats, have had these negotiations. have resulted sometimes in a freeze, but then that has accelerated, and we are where we sit today. does some of that blame, sir, fall on the obama administration for not doing more? you had pressured president obama to ramp up sanctions. >> yes, well, i have wanted, for both the obama administration and for the trump administration, to engage in direct negotiations. kim is rational to this extent. he may be homicidal, but he is not suicidal. so he does not want to get into a situation where the united states is engaging in military activity against his regime. and so to that extent, there is
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an opening for direct negotiations to find a pathway towards negotiating a freeze on that intercontinental ballistic missile and nuclear weapons program. and unless we take that opportunity, i'm just afraid that we are going to wind up in a situation where too many people are going to begin to talk about actually using a military option to deal with north korea. >> all right. we've seen the handshake. it happened about an hour ago between president putin and president trump. that's the optics. now to the substance of this meeting getting under way in just about an hour's time. what would make you satisfied once you get the read-out on that meeting. what would make you think that president trump did a good job? >> well, first of all, we know that the president of russia,
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vladimir putin, is their spy in chief. he was directing the hacking into our campaign last year for the presidency. he was an operative in the kgb who worked his way all the way up from the bottom to the top. and so as you meet the spy in chief, you have to be the commander in chief of the united states, and you have to be confronting putin very strongly and letting him know that there are going to be consequences for what russia did last year. and if this story about increased spying in the united states right now is accurate, then the consequences for any of those activities right now. but for me, that handshake has to be followed by very tough talk by president trump that makes it clear that he understands that the american people want to know that he
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accepts and will take responsibility for taking on putin on this issue. thus far, trump has just been in bede nile. >> and that is the reporting we have from current and former intelligence officials that russian spies have stepped up their activity in this country. before i let you go a question on the future of your party. i'm sure you saw the op ed by mark penn in "the new york times." and a pretty drastic change he wants to see from your party before the next presidential election. the path back for the democratic party today as it was in the '90s is unquestionably a move to the center, a rejection of the siren calls of the left whose policies and ideas have weakened the party. is he right, senator? >> well, if by that he means that we have to talk to the economic issues that are facing blue collar working class families all across this
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country, their health care, their access to education, the need to have real job and economic and wage growth in our country, then yes. that is where we should be. that's the message that the democratic party has to send out to those voters who are turned away from us last year. and i think we're well on the path to constructing that new message. the democrats in the senate especially have laid out an economic program that i think is going to be very appealing to those voters in 2018. >> we'll see. we have to leave it there. thank you, senator ed markey. the latest jobs report is coming out this morning. we'll break down what the new numbers are and what they mean for your bottom line and for the president's economic agenda. and, you know this sound -- cnn taking a look back at the '90s and the tv shows that defined the decade like "law & order."
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♪ one of the most iconic tv theme songs certainly of the '90s. probably of all time. of course, "law & order." cnn is taking a look back at all the shows that defined that decadec decade in the premiere episode of 'the 90s. >> this was a show that completely delivered on its formula every time. you get a crime. you got the investigation into the crime. >> you better be packing more than a dirty mouth. >> you got an arrest. >> what's the charge? hey, i'm asking you a question. what's the charge? >> there is no charge. this one's on us. >> then you had a trial. >> he's badgering, your honor. >> sit down and shut down. >> overruled. and you will address the court
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from now on. >> every time you watched, you got what you came for. >> it is true. when you think about the reach of this franchise. how it has grown and now it could be binge watched by a new generation. actor sam waterston joins us. he played the district attorney jack mccoy for 16 years on "law & order." it is an impressive legacy you guys built for yourself with "law & order." >> it was an amazing run. it changed new york. it changed the theater for hundreds and hundreds, thousands of actors. it was something really special. a lot of big names, too, passed through the ranks there. now we identify them as big stars. when you look back in that -- on that period, the '90s, what does it mean to you as kind of a cultural process? >> you know, we used to do 26 episodes a season. so my life was very much
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"law & order." and my memories of the '90s were of a lot of crime. >> it was a lot of -- it's interesting why it was so captivating for people. as a lawyer and as a journalist, i've done a lot of crime reporting. and you guys seized on a formula that is made for television. there is something about the criminal -- >> you know, that was an accident. >> no, how? >> it was an accident because when dick originated the show, people didn't really believe that there was space on television for hour-long dramas. so he formed it as two shows that you could show separately. >> really? >> yeah. the crime and the courtroom. >> so what do you think about the enduring part of the '90s and of "law & order"? do you think it will stand the
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test of time? it seems like the answer is yes, at least for your franchise. what about the impact of that decade in general? >> well, it was a wonderful time for me. it was a great period of work. you talk about what the show was like to watch, but what it was to do was amazing. the level of the script, the kind of issues that we dealt with, week in, week out. you asked if it would stand the test of time. it does. the proof is that it's still running, and people are still watching it. and people still come up to me and say, you are on law & order, aren't you? like it was still going on. >> it's true. you have a whole new generation of people binge watching it and two generations of viewers in just my family. me and my wife and my 14-year-old. i'm hearing that -- ♪ all the time in my house and you obviously influence jury's
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expectations of trials. that's how big an impact? >> dick wolf was on to something early. >> it endures to this day and worth looking back on it as well. sam waterston, congratulations to you on success that doesn't end. appreciate you being on this show. the new cnn series "the '90s" premieres sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. what do you say? a little bit of good stuff, next. at whole foods market, we believe in food that's naturally beautiful, fresh and nutritious. so there are no artificial colors, no artificial flavors, no artificial preservatives in any of the food we sell. we believe in real food. whole foods market. theto me than my vacation.tant so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy to find what i want. gets it.
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supposed to. >> by the way, you should be trained, all of us should, if you have young children. that's what you're supposed to do. don't worry about breathing into the airway anymore. medics raced to the man. got him to the hospital. a few days later the man's family stopped by the restaurant with a picture to thank austin. austin says he was happy to save a life. >> look at that. you all hope you'll act like that in the moment. >> what's the key? not only do you have to have the gumption to get in there to help. you have to know what to do. that's why that cpr training very good. >> cpr training that john berman does, and he'll take it from here. >> i do. i have both gumption and training. a lot of news. let's jump right into it. this is cnn breaking news. >> all right. hello. i'm john berman. i want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we are just minutes away from one of the most anticipated meetings of the year and one of the most


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