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the change is so profound. >> don't miss it, sunday, 9:00 eastern on cnn. we continue our special live coverage of the g20 in ham bubu. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for being with me. "the lead" starts right now. jake seen all around the world? president putin and president trump meet face to face. president trump calls him out for russian hacks. it seems nothing america has done yet has stopped the spy threats. plus, north korea celebrating a july 4th missile launch with fireworks. but did president trump just hit a roadblock in this crisis named vladimir putin? welcome to "the lead." i'm pamela brown in for jake
tapper. all those stories right ahead, but first, for the second night in a row, protesters are swarming the streets of hamburg, germany, the site of the g20 summit, and president trump's meeting earlier with russian president vladimir putin where election meddling was discussed at length. first to the action outside, right now police are trying to calm a chaotic scene as night falls in germany. i want to go straight to cnn's fred pleitgen. he's right down there in the crowd in the middle of it all. what's going on there now, fred? >> reporter: i apologize for all the noise. there is quite a lot of confusion going on next to me. there are several demonstrations going on in hamburg. as you can see, there is a considerable police presence at this one as well. a couple blocks from here, i would say about a mile and a half, there is another demonstration that has apparently turned very violent. there are barricades that have been set on fire, and what we have just learned from the hamburg police is apparently one of its officers was harassed so
badly and he fired a warning shot into the air to try to get those people to go away from him. certainly a very chaotic scene going on there. those are barricades that are on fire. the police in street battles there against people out there. at the same time, you have various other demonstrations taking place here in the city. right here it's going to start marching pretty soon. what the protesters want to do, they want a secure perimeter of the g20. they've actually called in additional reinforcement. >> quite a dichotomy when you look at the left side of the screen and where you are now. i know it's tough to hear me but i'm going to ask this question. earlier first lady melania trump couldn't leave her hotel due to protests. are they concerned about that, fred, if you can hear me? >> reporter: of course. there is definitely concern about that.
it wasn't just melania trump that had trouble moving around. she was going to go to an event for the spouses of some of the leaders organized by angela merkel to a resource center. she wasn't able to do that because she wasn't able to be in a place that she's safe. there are protests now and later. these are causing logistical problems because some of the world leaders are not staying where the actual venue is but they have to travel in and out. >> fred pleitgen there in ham burlg, germany right in the middle of it all. we'll check back as these protests continue there. and that is ignited outside. inside the g20, the most anticipated moment of the entire summit. president trump and president vladimir putin shaking hands before a meeting that went into overtime and produced a couple stunning developments, including mr. trump silencing some of his
critics and not remaining silence on russian hacking. i want to bring in jeff. what are we hearing and what have they discussed? >> reporter: pamela, it has been one of the biggest questions hanging over this summit, would president trump bring up the russian hacking interference in the 2016 election? he did bring it up, but how he brought it up is interesting and worth looking at carefully. i was with rex tillerson earlier. he said it like this. he said the president is raising the concerns of the american people. he didn't say if they are his concerns. >> it's an honor to be with you. >> reporter: the handshake the world has been waiting for. president trump and vladimir putin side by side today for the first time at the g20 summit in hamburg. secretary of state rex tillerson the only other u.s. official inside the meeting later told reporters that president trump opened this session by raising the elephant in the room: russian interference in the 2016
election. >> the president pressed president putin on more than one occasion regarding russian involvement. president putin denied such involvement, as i think he has in the past. >> reporter: while putin denied involvement, tillerson said the two leaders agreed to work together to avoid future cyberattacks and not let the russian influence dominate their relationship. >> the two leaders agreed, though, that this is a substantial hindrance. and the ability of us to move the u.s.-russian relationship forward. >> reporter: tonight, one question above all remains unanswered, whether agreeing to move on diminishes the seriousness of russia's role. >> senator putin and i have been discussing various things, and i think it's been going very well. we've had some very good talks. we're going to have a taublk no and obviously that's going to continue. >> reporter: the russian talk was different. lavrov said the president had
heard comments from russian authorities denying involvement. putin said he demanded evidence of russian involvement. president trump offered no proof and they moved on. they talked about syria, forging a cease fire agreement in the southwestern part of that war-torn country. for putin, today marked a new beginning with the u.s. president. to president clinton to george w. bush at his ranch in texas. every president has pledged a fresh start, as mr. trump did before taking office. >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. >> reporter: the highly anticipated meeting today lasted two hours and 15 minutes, far longer than the originally planned 40 minutes. at one point first lady melania trump was sent in to break up the meeting to keep the president on schedule. tillerson said the session lasted one more hour.
outside the summit meeting, protesters clogged streets and sparked violence, which kept mrs. trump from attending a women's meeting on violence later in the day. mr. trump met with his counterparts like angela merkel and president macron. it overshadowed the summit meeting with putin, clouded even more by domestic politics. so, pamela, now that this first meeting is out of the way between the two biggest leaders, the big question is what happens next? what happens in future meetings between them? they did raise the idea of election interference and said they would work together to diminish cyber attacks. the question, though, by the president not saying this is a top concern for him, how much will vladimir putin actually be invested in trying to fix this? i think the idea of any type of
a major change here is probably not that likely. but on syria, that is a major development here that happened in that meeting today, but again, pamela, this is the beginning of their relationship. we'll see where it goes from here. >> we'll see where it goes. and it's interesting, yesterday the president still continued to cast doubt on russia's assessment about meddling in the election. and then today it was the first thing he brought nup thup in th meeting, according to secretary of state rex tillerson. what do you make of that? >> reporter: pamela, he brought it up, but again, he did not really -- it's unclear how full-throated he was discussing this. he said he was bringing the concerns of the american people to him. he did not necessarily say if he agreed. then the account from the russian side, they asked for proof and secretary of state rex tillerson said the president said he was not going to offer proof, that would be up to the intelligence community to do so. we know what the president thinks of the intelligence community. we heard that yesterday when he
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hearing more directly from our president that he believes our intelligence community rather than what he's said in the last six months. i'm not sure, it could be somebody else, it's indecisive. i think it would be better to rely on their conclusion rather than sidestepping the issue. >> i know there is concern about the next election and russia's potential meddling and even going so far as to kbablgt voim. secretary rex tillerson in this meeting for the two men to discuss on the commitment of non-interference in the future, do you think today's meeting will help avoid future russian interference? >> i think it's important for president trump to have laid out an expectation that russia will stop meelddling in our election but i only think that will happen if russia pays a grave consequence, if there is real
action taken in regard to our russian allies. they have attempted to meddle in germany elections, other elections in europe, and as it was said, we can expect the russians to meddle in our elections in 2020 if we don't take strong action. that's why the bipartisan bill that came out of the senate in 1992 ought to be taken up in the house this week and president trump should sign it. >> we're also told the two mena greed tie ceato a cease fire in southwestern florida. >> if that agreement was actually reached and if the details of that agreement prove to be something that could be enforced, the idea that russia and the united states would have a common commitment to assad leaving power in syria is an important step forward. but the devil really is going to be in the details here. putin and putin's russia do not share our values or our priorities with regard to syria and assad, with regard to the
middle east, ukraine or western europe. so, frankly, i'm going to wait to see the details of this agreement to see if they really will make a difference. >> senator, stick around. so much more to discuss. espionage u.s. intelligences say russia is increasing its covert issues right here in the united states. what are they doing right under our noses? that's next. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything
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>> reporter: as president trump meets with president putin, russians tell us they're ramping up intelligence on the u.s. in some cases russian spies have tried to gain employment at places with sensitive information. >> they're looking for other ways to be able to attack the united states should they need to do so. and the most compelling way to do that is basically a cyber attack that would shut down significant american infrastructure. >> reporter: u.s. officials say russians are feeling emboldened by the lack of significant retaliation for meddling in the 2016 election from both the obama and trump administration. intelligence experts warn that america and its elections remain at risk, even after trump raised the issue with putin during their meeting. putin denied any interference. >> this is an assault on us, our nation, our country. and regardless of party. and we need to get to the bottom of this and figure out what to do to prevent it in the future. >> reporter: for decades, russian intelligence gathering
inside the u.s. has been a constant threat. before becoming a moscow media star, anna chapman was caught on camera in the usa, working undercover for the kremlin. in 2010 she was busted in a probe for undercover agents. currently sources tell cnn they believe the russians have nearly 150 operatives here, quickly replenishing their ranks after the obama administration expelled 35 diplomats suspected of spying back in december. two compounds received surveillance equipment. russians deny that but they were seen removing equipment before going home. they have issued new warnings to the u.s. facilities about potential cyber attacks on operating systems of nuclear plants. wolf creek nuclear operating corporation that runs a nuclear plant in kansas was one of the
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trump, they have differing views on how to hand the north korea crisis. i want to go to pentagon correspondent barbara starr. today north korea not only blamed the u.s. for the missile test but also planned to send more gift packages. what does that mean? >> reporter: it means only one thing. they are accelerating their missile program and they are not backing off. south korea flexing its own military muscle, conducting a naval military drill to show the world and kim jong-un its own military might. for its part, north korea is still celebrating the launch from the fourth of july. >> translator: the great success of the intercontinental ballistic missile launched is a demonstration of our mighty power. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence is urgently assessing what it knows about the north korean
korean icbm test and how soon it will be able to strike u.s. soil. >> we're still analyzing the latest test at this time. >> reporter: a key question? did the missile reenter the earth's atmosphere intact? that would be a necessary step for a north korean icbm to hit a target. then there's the issue of placing a nuclear warhead on top of the missile. >> they're trying to miniaturize this warhead to put it on top of this icbm delivery system. i think it's a very serious threat. >> reporter: a threat that for now the u.s. is confronting peacefully. >> this is a diplomatically led international effort to stop a worldwide threat that they are bringing to bear. >> reporter: but what does that look like? secretary of state rex tillerson announced the trump administration's goal is to roll back north korea's nuclear and missile program. >> stopping where they are today is not acceptable to us.
>> reporter: so one of the big diplomatic questions is this. would talking to north korea directly even help? so far, no indication. pamela? >> barbara starr, thank you so much for that. senator chris coons, back to you now. bottom line, your view. could the u.s. do anything at all to prevent a nuclear capable north carolina. >> both putin and president trump said they intend to follow mobilization first, they're trying to mobilize a world effort. some of the things done at the world nations g20 says that other allies see it the same way. the key country here is china. this is china's problem because it's destabilizing pet nie inin peninsula, destabilizing the region, but trump has not taken any steps tofor destabilizing
action. if this is one of our most important national security questions, then why does the president want a budget that would cut the military spending by almost a third? that sounds like we're cutting diplomatic efforts with china. >> if china hasn't done anything up to this point, why are you kfrt it could? >> i'm not confident. in fact, i'm not even optimistic. i am concerned china is balancing their concern that if there is a crisis versus they will concerned that the rest of the world will coalesce on them. we are creating a nuclear armed country that has an icbm capable of hitting the states in two years. we don't have a lot of time. that's why we need to focus on the diplomatic effort and we need a president who engajds on
allies all around the world. this is not a place with our partnership. >> you think in two years, they wi will. in open source reporting, that's been talked about the time it will likely take them. i think this latest missile test took a number of us by surprised in being more successful than interpreted, but you heard they're still analyzing it. that's a rough guess. >> what's clear is that north korea shows no signs of backing down? >> no sign of backing down. and this is clear from the united states. we need to focus on this and bring all units to bear. >> i want to show you something about spying on russians on the u.s. and the fact that russians are stepping up their efforts and really the russians haven't faced severe retaliation for
election meddling, according to the intelligence community. how concerned are you about this? >> i'm very concerned. vladimir putin will only stop when he's stopped and he will only stop when russia pays a price. remember what they've done recently, invaded and occupied a portion of a neighboring country, you crane, where we had guaranteed its sovereign policy. taking bashar al-assad, had committed to his removal from power and interfering directly in our elections. they don't share our priorities, they don't share our values. they've attempted to undermine nato, distance themselves from our allies and we need to take action. >> what about the argument that the obama administration didn't do enough? >> i agree with that.
i would frankly say the obama administration, under a bum bell. . the the intelligence community produced a broad, safer report. it's the trump administration that hasn't taken the steps that were needed to follow up on that intelligence. >> let me just ask you this, because our sources tell us also part of the concern is that it could launch cyber warfare. i'm hearing from people i talk to in the russian community is that focus has been penetrating the spy chain. we know in nuclear attacks there were recent hacks. what is that concern, that they're able to cause harm in reaction to us? >> i think that's very legitimate. they have a very sophisticated intelligence service, they have a fairly sophisticated military, and they have made the cyber of
doma domain. . i take raem. some sort of. without having trump forcefully say publicly that russian meddling in our future elections and future elections in europe will not be tolerated, nor are we exposed to a repeat of this threat. >> president trump did say he pushed vladimir putin on the issue in the meeting in the summit. coming up here on the lead, secretaries has left many people scratching their heads. the panel discusses that and more.
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welcome back. in germany tonight, world leaders and their spouses sat down to dinner at the g20 summit. after spending more than two hours with president trump this morning, russian president vladimir putin was seated next to first lady melania trump for dinner. wonder what they talked about? my political panel joins me now to break down the day's news. so much to discuss in the wake of this meeting there at the g20 summit. brian, i want to go first to you because you were part of hillary clinton's campaign. what is your reaction to the meeting today with vladimir putin and the fact that president trump did bring up election meddling? >> apparently he did bring it up, but then there is a he said-she said over whether he accepted vladimir putin's assurance that he didn't have anything to do with this hack. and pursuant to president trump's actions, there is no
reason to think he gave a stern talking-to to vladimir putin. you heard him give a side explanation as to the hacking. he said he agreed with the people signing that, saying it was due to the russians, but he's not insisting on that. he's also attaching some consequences to this action by the russians. instead we're hearing reports that the white house is trying to dilute the sanctions bill. donald trump and the white house have been slow walking it. >> secretary of state rex tillerson said they wanted to focus on the future and prevent interference on any future election. but president trump did sort of meddle his message when he talks
about russia. and then is there, he talked about hacking with president putin. what do you think about that? >> this is vladimir putin yesterday in poland, pam. i think it was russia but i think it was probably also other people and countries about election interference. >> which is something james clap t per said yesterday he had seen evidence of dni. >> on the one hand, some people say russia was involved, and on the other, some people say it wasn't. this one basically everyone says they were. giving that, and to brian's point, everything he's said up now, this is the moment unwilling with the republican party, it's odd to me a little bit that he decided to lead off with this and represent a change
of heart, frankly, from just yesterday when he was unwilling to even say, yes, primarily was. rex tillerson was in the room. we're unlike toly to hear from trump. who knows, he does have his twitter feed. again, though, it seems to me, and i know we won't get an answer on this, but it seems to me that we should get an answer on did donald trump change -- did he -- was he presented with something between poland on thursday and germany on friday that led him to say, i'm going to lead off with this? because remember the reporting leading up to this. >> but if you look at his word lg, christian, he says, i want
to talk to you about the concern of the american people. he didn't say, i want to talk to you about my concern. do you think those were wisely chosen words? >> i think that may be sort of splitting hairs there. i think it's actually kind of silly that we now have a lot of folks who have said russia is sort of enemy number one and russia did all these horrible things in the election and now are sort of willing to present the version of events by our minister. in fact, foefr the government of your state. it must be hard when you don't trust two leaders of what happened in that meeting. donald trump stwrus has this bizarre fixation whgs not acknowledging there was russian interference in the election. i think because the stories become so mixed up. he wants to say, this is the only time my election was
legitimate. i wish he would stop going there and start focusing on issues, with when the russian foreign minister said. >> kristen. that said trump agreed and had. he said many -- the first thing trump brought up in this meeting was election interference and he pressed putin on this. my point, forget the lavrov version of events because i think russia was right. but that in and of ift is super interesting given that he has repeatedly gt and. and yesterday in poland, he went out of his way to make that.
democrats were saying, oh, he should bring it it would be a big. >> i'm willing to give the president the benefit of the doubt that it was raised. i think it probably was in a joking, cavalier way, however he brought it up. if he did, kudos to him. now weaver kind of hearing from the republicans. will donald trump say i don't accept vladimir putin's denial. we have been warned this will happen again in 2019 and 2020. let's have the united states government speak with one voice that we will not accept this, and we're going to back it with strong sanctions as a result.
>> i want to switch to something else and that was the jobs report. it was better than this sfms t. what is your reaction to that? >> i think presidents always get more credit and more blame for the economy than they tefsh. the numbers were coming in great and he was taking credit for it. that was a thin case if you had only been in office about twoex. so to the extent the president has control over these things, the expectations of the business and corporate community in america are we're going to get things like tax reform, have a more favorable environment, so people are more willing to hire. i think plts often get too much blame, too much credit, but kbronk you can say president trump's election had nothing to do with this. >> very, very quickly. is this the fact that we're eight years out of the
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>> raymond said i could have it. you would rather throw it in the garbage than give it to me? >> it's the only way you'll learn. >> welcome back. in the top lead, "everybody loves raymond." it was one of the last sitcoms for the entire family before tvrs and dvds were standard in your household, and it featured a series in the nineties, that started with leno and ended with frosted tips. joining me now is actor brad garrett who played ray's brother robert. thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> why do you think everybody connected with "everybody loves raymond" so strongly? >> it's what makes sitcoms relatable and successful. it was about family and
dysfunction and the love and competition. you know, the cameraderie that exists sometimes or sometimes not in a family, and i just think it came at a point when everybody could really relate to it and kind of needed to get that family around the tv again. of course -- >> let's take a look. go ahead. >> no, go right ahead. >> i want to play this clip that really sums up what you're saying about the barrone family. let's watch this. >> hey. leave a message. >> hello? everything is fine now. you can bring the cake back over. frank, pick up! robert! raymond? are you eating that cake? you better not have started that cake. that cake is for all of us. frank! i'm coming over!
>> save yourself. >> that must have been a fun scene for you to be in, eating all that cake. >> yeah. a few takes. >> i'm sure there were a few takes. the cast have already suffered many heartbreaks, too many of them, including your tv mom ask kbrour d your dad, and your mom, dana boyle. >> i remember when i got the pilot and i met ray for the first time. we were both stand-ups for years but we had never met on the road and didn't know each other. when we knew doris roberts and peter boyle were going to play our parents, it was very, very exciting. these were two big stars, and doris came from theater and
television, and peter was a movie star in his own right. i remember when ray looked at me and he goes, hey, you know, this is going to work out great because peter is young frankenstein and you can easily be his son. and then we met them and it was just, both of them were incredible. we all had a different type and way of working and dynamic, and ray and i came from stand-up and different actors, so we all brought something to it. but we learned a lot from peter and doris, and of course patty was amazing. >> as we know, the '90s don't seem to go away. they were even rehashed in the 2016 election. why do you think people keep going back to that decade? >> personally for me it was pretty much of a blur, so -- i'm still working on getting over
the '90s. but there was a lot of change going on, i think, and politically, you know, looking at our political situation right now, i'm ready to go back to the '90s, i think. but there was a lot of change going on. i think in television especially and film, i think that's what was interesting about raymond was, you know, a lot of the television was kind of about friends, and they were great looking and funny and single and sexy, you know, and we were just this oddball circus that was taking place every week that had a very different type of feel. so i think that was even for the '90s, our show was almost set back a bit. looking back to the '90s, it was a great time for music, just for a lot of things. >> so final question.
>> and i was thinner. that's what i mainly miss about the '90s. and the things i owned before the divorce was wonderful. sometimes i look at pictures. >> i'm sensing a lot of nostalgia from you over the '90s. on that note, three words to describe the '90s for you. >> i'm very sorry. >> i'm very sorry. those are your three words. >> that's it. >> we will leave it at that, brad garrett. thank you so much. >> thank you. thanks for having me. don't miss it. set your vshlcrs if you have to. see what i did there? "the nineties" airs at 9:00 p.m. this sunday. that's it for "the lead." jake tapper will be back
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