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russian-american lobbyist. one with a lot of alleged connections. bring in my colleagues with these intriguing details. shimon, who is this exactly and how specific to the inve investigati investigation? >> reporter: we're lived there were other people in this room besides -- this all began with this russian attorney, this woman who was meeting there with trump jr. and manafort and kushner. we've learned there were other people including a russian-american lobbyist, he is from washington, d.c. he told the associated press that he was in the room. he was there on behalf of this russian attorney who she hired him for the sanctions. lives in washington, d.c., been
around. met with people on the hill before and conducting lobbying efforts. the significance of this is really unclear. now, you know people claimed we worked for russian intelligence. court documents, lawsuits filed where he is, where it's alleged that he's part of the russian intelligen intelligence, but that is not entirely clear to us. we've talked to those who haven't put a lot of credence to that. he's been living in washington for quite some time. you would think if he was working for the russian government the fbi would be on to him. we have no indication that's happened here. the significance, really, i think more is on the political side right now, which, you know, again we have another person in there we just have not been able to account for and that the white house has not commented on. >> the white house has not been forthcoming with, when explaining the facts of this meeting over time as well.
shimon, stand by. jeff zeleny, i want to play you a comment from kellyanne conway dismissing pretty much everything that's come to light so far in all of this. listen. >> well, even the goal post habn moved. we've been hit with what interfered with the election and dictated the electoral outcome. the only people that says that seriously these days is still hillary clinton and nobody believes it. >> systemic stained furtive collusion. kellyanne conway setting this bar, jeff zeleny, i'm not sure actually exists in this case. even periodic collusion would probably be a very big issue. nevertheless, jeff, what are the big questions that remain for you in this story? >> reporter: talk about moving the goal post there, john. the reality is republicans on capitol hill never mind the democrats have said that they indeed don't know if there was
collusion. they need to get to the bottom of this. that is one of the things that has frustrated, again, talking about republicans here, the president's own party, that the white house has rushed to judgment saying there is no collusion. the chairman of these committees have said we simply don't know yet. that's why we need the investigations and these meetings including likely hearing from the president's oldest son next week before the senate judiciary committee. john, i was struck by one comment the president made when he was flying here to paris to have his whirlwind 30 hours here on the ground in paris with the new french president emmanuel macron. he was talking about sort of are downplaying the sense that, you know, that much has gone on here, and he centered on one interesting phrase. senator tim kaine, the democrat of virginia said offhand the other day, it could be an act of treason. it could be a treasonous act. this is what donald trump said on air force one. he said, when they say treason.
you know what treason is? that's julius and ethel rosenberg for giving the atomic bomb. okay? that is what president trump said on air force one, going way back in history here. the case of the rosenbergs interestingly is from 1953. they were both executed for giving away secrets to the russians here. donald trump was 7 years old at the time. and this is something that obviously, a case he remembers from his childhood, but certainly saying that, you know, going to the extreme there setting a high bar here, but the reality here is, john, this is something on the president's mind. it is frustrating to them. the white house is also now frustrated trying to get more of their stories together, because as shimon just was reporting, now that there is new information about that meeting, it discounts all the credibility that the white house has already been explaining this week by saying there was nothing to that meeting. and there was nothing that came out of it. this is something, again, why congressional investigators and likely the justice department
also want to know more about it, because we simply have not heard the same story. it's been changing most every day, john, for the past week or so. >> again, rosenbergs actually were executed for espionage and even that, it's a very, very high bar both noting right there. jeff zeleny in paris. shimon, thanks so much. here to share, from the wall street journal, and from real clear politics and from the associated press, jonathan start with you. this is a lot of associated press reporting on this individual. let me remind you before we even start of what donald trump jr. said just tuesday in his interview with sean hannity about how transparent he was being as of tuesday night. listen to this. >> so as far as you know as far as this incident's concerned, this is all of it? >> this is everything. this is everything. >> well, it's not quite everything. is it? review here. the white house and trump associates not formcoming about
the fact of this meeting. took more than a year to get it out. not forthcoming about the substance. the statement saturday said all about adoption. and three, haven't been forthcoming on the attendance of that meeting. learning today, jonathan, who was there. >> so how big was this room? at this point, the white house and the trump allies are confronted with a narrative that seems to shift every single day. and as just indicated, this is only undermine their credibility. this shifted from, oh, it's adoption. to, oh, it doesn't mean much. to, okay, yes. there was suggestion of help from the russian government. and now we have another well-known russian lobbyist in the room who spoke to my colleagues at the a.p. today, who suggest his accounting of that meeting is that the russian attorney who was there suggested, oh, the dnc may have received some dirty foreign contributions. and donald trump jr. expressed interest in that, but when she
couldn't provide proof he immediately disengaged. >> fascinating to hear. you know, and kaitlyn, again, one of the things that's interesting about this new individual apparently in the room was how well known he was. chuck grassley, a republican, had written a letter in april, in april. april 28th, and i'm not quite suretaining to. a former member of the russian military services based in washington, d.c. as a lobbyist, previously hired by clients with a mandate to generate negative publicity. paid by a previous client in asylum application of a russian citizen using false accusations of anti-semitism, accused of organizing on behalf of russian m melchenko for computers to the hacked and steal confidential personal and otherwise sensitive information so that it could be disseminated. now our shimon prokupecz said
he's well known. the fact chuck grassley was writing this letter, apparently not connected to this issue back in april tells you something. >> sure. we're focused certainly on donald trump jr. and his involvement in establishes this kind of meeting, but also the spotlight is very much on kushner, of course, because he is in the administration now and security clearances revealed that, and paul manafort. you can argue the others didn't have experience in politics or campaigns. you can't make the make that argument for manafort. the line of defense, it's always been, we never got anything of value from this meeting, which, of course, grassley and others are going to want to know, well, what happened in the case that you did receive valuable information? what will you have done then? remember, donald trump jr. will be testifying, or appearing in front of the committee presumably under only. >> look, charles krauthammer wrote an op-ed to that point. maybe they didn't get anything, but sure tried.
right? let me read that. he says, had the lawyer real stuff to deliver, continue to jr. and the others isn't far deeper legal trouble. turned out to be incompetent collusion. amateur collusion. comically failed cou eed collus. e don't need a lawyer to say that democratic fiction designed to explain away a lost election is now officially dead. i mean, kellyanne conway and others trying to move past that point, but that point sticks. >> it does. one of the things this development shows is the story isn't going away anytime soon. always seems one more development, one more fact coming out, one more aspect of it we hadn't thought of before. i think the trump administration needs to accept that. something they can't move past quickly and maybe if they need to compartmentalize. bill clin during his administration was famous for compartmentalizing. scandals, and he got good putting that at one box and moving ahead in the areas polewise in another. a big question, central question
facing the trump presidency if they're able to do that. >> i can't explain, jack kingston, big white house adviser, trump campaign, said to kate bolduan a few minutes ago, that big a deal, paul manafort would never have let it happen. you know, jared kushner's in the room. one thing. why didn't he fill out the forms kpre correctly several times. but paul manafort what was he thinking? >> accused as sketchy, a bagman for numerous foreign gofrts. a lobbyist but willing to take assignments political consultants, operatives wouldn't take. paul manafort is not of law enforceme menment call foul on anything. i don't want to accuse him of
anything. that he's squeaky clean is not the conventional wisdom around d.c. among people who knew him. paul manafort, remember, was fired from the campaign because of his work against the ukrainian government on behalf of the russian-backed faction in ukraine. so paul manafort's involvement if anything makes it more suspicious given his connections in the russian sphere. >> and paul manafort is not a young man. as donald trump said about his son. paul manafort would have known if something was going on. coming up, demming sounding the alarm on the russian investigation and donald trump jr.'s meeting with this russian lobbyist.d now this russian who knows who else was in the room? some republican lawmakers are quick to rebuke them saying, let's not get hysterical. antee.. your only worry... will be that one... rogue... cloud.
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it's a contentious party. now a russian american lobbyist with ties to russian intelligence put more fuel on the fire. this morning house minority leader nancy pelosi renewed calls for a new commission accusing republicans of hiding the truth from the american people. >> earlier this week we saw cold, hard evidence that the trump administration and the trump family had eagerly intended to collude with russian a hostile foreign policy to influence an american election. we will expose house republicans in action for their willful, shameful enabling, they had to become enablers of the violation
of our constitution, the attack on the integrity of our elections, the security of our country. >> all right. listen to republican lawmakers, though, like virginia's dave bratt calls out democrats for being what he calls hysterical when it comes to this investigation. >> you got to separate out the political. we have a probe going forward on the russia piece. on the police piece, you find a statute violated you got it. my senators in virginia are getting apoplectic, and smoke everywhere he goes like he's in a cheech and chong movie are and kaine now thinks the son is worse than benedict arnold. we've gotten a little hysterical and should just get grounded. >> you know, undeniable points for bringing up cheech and chong in this discussion, nevertheless, i am struck by the fact republicans picked up on some democrats using the word "treason." tim kaine, the senator from virginia used the word possibly, maybe look into that. but treason doesn't really apply
when not in a time of war. democrats have given republicans a little ammunition there. >> what happens in these situations the party playing defense in a sense hopes the other side overplays its hand. not surprising they would seize on perhaps the most inflammatory, most sweeping comment made by the other side even if not many on the other side of making it to try to make it into a situation in which the democrats go too far. >> kaitlyn, may be the best argument republican members have right now, because we've spoken to many republican senators and congressmen. not one i've spoken to said they would take the meeting donald trump jr. took, despite the fact donald trump said in his press conference, many would have taken it. not one told me they would take it and every one you could tell is uncomfortable in a way they were not one week ago. >> and listen to testimony of nominated fbi director ray who says, absolutely when questioned he would encourage campaigns to turn that information over to the fbi. that's an appointment donald
trump has also been touting, this appointment of ray. so that testimony was interesting. republicans are in a different position here, but ehayet to se evidence they have a dig political incentive to distance themselves from him at this point, given how popular he is among the republican base and strategists and lawmakers say donald trump become somewhat of a sympathetic character through all of this given the democratic line of questioning against him. but you can also tell that republicans are uncomfortable with it. remember, not long ago mitt romney was talking about russia as a geopolitical foe. lots of lawmakers who are wanting to take a more aggressive stance on putin and some are voicing concern the white house hasn't done enough. that sanctions bill came out of the senate, waiting confirmation in the house. >> molly, you know, the "new yorker" has a new cover out this week i'd like to look at now and think on for a moment. there you see donald trump, deplaning from air force one.
pulling the ear of, the person who appears to be donald trump jr. and then kicking a person who appears to be jared kushner. that gets to the, really, now complicated in all caps family relationships going on here. not just family relationships, political relationships and legal relationships all tied up in this whole thing. start with john junior. an interesting profile's don junior. spent time with him on the campaign the last couple months and now. what's his role in the family? and in the political organization? >> well, thank you. the piece i wrote is entitled "the troublemaker" that's mow don jr. describes himself as the role in the family. the sort of pigeonhole, anyone with sublings knows everybody's got a role. that was him from childhood. he was always sort of the wild one, as he himself describes it. but i actually think that the family dynamic of the trumps is very uncomplicated. compared to a lot of families. they are extremely close. they ran a company together.
there is very little discord. very little daylight and it is never been -- questioned, a question in my mind, that donald trump's inner circle consists of his three oldest children and his son-in-law. they are super tight. don junior told me during the campaign even prior running the business, met every monday morning, had a powwow, hashed out differences, very, very close to their father. the "new yorker" cover has -- the father of the family being frustrated with his son and son-in-law, but really it's hard to imagine that they did much that wasn't authorized by him. >> not every family, though, do you have to fill out security forms if you want to work your your dad like that and not every family can you go e to jail potentially if you fill them out incorrectly. jonathan, gets to the role of jared kushner right now in all of this. we've learned more -- i don't know if jared kushner's disclosure, for instance, it probably does, given he made it many times includes the fact this russian lobbyist was in the
room. this russian-american lobbyist. i'm not sure he has to, because he is an american citizen. jared kushner has had to revise his security forms many, many times. >> kushner role is vital and emerging a a real flashpoint for democrats. kushner works in the administration, had to fill out the forms. don junior stayed in, new york, runs the business with his brother, not a member of the government. didn't have to fill out the forms. jared kushner did. and seized on the idea jared kushner should have his security clearance revoked. sarah huckabee sanders twice asked at the white house press briefs, anything changed? evaded the question. nothing has changed, but they know this is something the democrats are going to harp upon, and what will be interesting, and molly is right. the trump family is very close. spent a lot of time, i spent a lot of time with them on the
campaign last year. they have each other's backs, but what will be interesting is if the legal fortunes of don junior and jared kushner eventually clash. if they're suddenly at odds, what happens then? >> interesting. we know kushner's legal team, great reporting from cnn, have actually been dealing with this issue of this meeting several weeks planning on figuring how to disclose it and knew this was complicated. stick around. up next, stakes are high. margin of error raising, actually non-existent. will concerns by moderate republicans lead to the one vote that stops the republican health care bill from reaching the floor? stay with us. show me winter in july.
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one more vote it sinks. knowing the stakes for his agenda the president tweeted to help or maybe to setup the kentucky senator at a fall guy. what the president wrote -- so important. republican senators under leadership of senator mitch mcconnell get health care plan approved. after seven years of obamacare disaster, must happen. in a case you think it's a one-time thing, listen -- >> it has to get passed. they have to do it. they have to get together and get it done. he's got to pull it off. mitch has to pull it off. he's working very hard. he's got to pull it off. >> and mj lee on capitol hill. wants to vote next week. how it goes depends on one thing. the cbo score. >> reporter: yeah. for a lot of the republicans li the dreaded cbo score. the first version of the bill, it was a doozy showing 22 million fewer people would be insured under the senate bill than compared to obamacare, and
it also showed that 50 million fewer people would be covered under medicaid. as you know, this is a huge problem for some of these members who come from medicaid expansion states. like dean heller, lisa murkowski, shelly more capito and why we're seeing mitch mcconnell trying to talk to them and bring them onboard. having said that, this is what leadership would like to see happen next week and i want to emphasize, this is the best case snare f sna snare kno snare scenario. when the cbo plan comes out, if it goes well, the vote begins. and senate votorama. a marathon process of many amendments introduces, votes taken. that goes well, you move on to the final vote. john, for the time being, that final vote feels far away. we know two senate republicans, susan collins and rand paul, have already said they would
vote against the motion to proceed. that means mitch mcconnell really has no wiggle room. he cannot lose another senate republican. if he does, then the motion to proceed wouldn't even go through the senate. this bill would not even be brought up for debate. >> all right. mj lee on capitol hill. thanks. back now with the panel. you know, jonathan, let's lay out exactly what the president has done here. we said he was on twitter this morning writing about it, but compare it to what president obama did to get obamacare through. the president has done no major speeches. tweets. he has had white house meetings with senators, as for president obama, town halls in wisconsin, ohio, colorado, virginia. primetime speeches to congress. health care summits in the white house. the facts. just the comparison between what president trump and president obama did. kellyanne conway says that the president is very active in this. listen. >> assess you know, president trump is very hands-on. he works the phones. he hosts meetings. we've had any number of members
of congress here, governors, frankly, over time. we've also had obamacare victims, drug manufacturers. he has approached this from every different facet of the health care system. >> has he, jonathan? look, no question he wants something passed. wants a win here, but has he really approached it from every angle like kellyanne conway is saying? >> she's right the president wants a win. desperate for a victory and will sign it. give it to me, i'll sign it. but it's not just the contrast how he is perceived with this bill versus president obama with obamacare. with the house, much more actively involved. calling people. threatening at times freedom caucus, arm twists and this time a lot less. some is the president perhaps not as well versed with all the details of the bill but there's a suggestion that if this goes down, he's not to blame. the buck would not stop with him but rather senator majority leader mcconnell.
>> we just heard from john kasich saying he is against the bill. republican governors you interesting constituency here. opposed to what's going on in congress now. that could spell trouble. brian sandoval, governor of nevada may be even more important because dean heller may do what he says, seems squishy on it, too. >> and sandoval extremely popular in this state. interesting to watch the influence these republican governors have had and the way in in democrats see them at allies. you've seen democrats praising people like kasich and sandoval to coming out of ant cyd sid crg some components. you do have republicans who have voted for a repeal over and over and over again without consequence. and also republicans who as we just talked about railed against government-funded programs. expanding them. now that they have the money, these governors have these in
their bftudgets, it's hard to te it a way. >> and moderates never objected to repeal and replace agenda and benefited from the slogan politically, yet some still threatening to allow debate is. if they really wanted obamacare, now at least accountable for their true position. there is a point to this. moderates right now who say medicaid is their sticking point. they weren't saying this when obamacare was being voted on originally. and they weren't saying that when they voted for the repeal measures a few years ago. >> i should clarify, i had nothing to do with the editorials. in the opposition, easy. all you have to do, criticize whatever the majority party, whatever party has the white house is doing. when you're actually in power and have a president that could sign your bill suddenly reality hits. i think that's one dynamic. the second dynamic is earl on there wasn't a medicaid expansion. and so they were against it. now it's there and it would be taking something away. that's a whole different set of
dynamics. the issue with the president, we should add, not that he hasn't been as involved. some republicans feel he's done damage. tweeted, for example, maybe just repeal it, worry about the replace later. you could just see mitch mcconnell shaking his head. not helpful to do a degree, a criticism he's not engaged enough. another's when he does engage, perhaps no the to help the cause. >> stuck in the middle with you politically and with the president, mr. blonde, once again. talk about mcconnell. how does he think this is going to go down? he's got two senators already saying, they're going to vote against the motion to proceed. if he loses one more this thing won't get a vote on the floor. dean heller goes home this weekend to nevada, maybe talk to the governor there who still says he's against this whole thing. how does he win heller over in the days he needs to? >> no idea. and nobody really knows whether or how mitch mcconnell plans to get this through. his caucus is getting restless. talking to republican senators
and senate sources. at first they had a lot of trust in mcconnell. felt like he's a tactical mastermind. we don't know how but he always pulls the rabbit out of the hat in the end. increasingly wondering, where's the rabbit? they don't see a path. you know, they also feel like, mcconnell and the president alike may be leading them out on a limb and going to saw it off behind them, because you know, the house members voted for this bill, and then the president called it mean. that was -- very conserving. and if this bill doesn't end up passing both houses getting signed by the president, there's a possibility members will have taken a politically damaging vote for nothing. so you know, you have people -- senators openly critical of the process when it started happening, drafting the bill sort of behind closed doors. now they're even more jittery and critical. >> is it possible that the rabbit that mitch mcconnell is trying to pull out of his hat, prove they can't get it through?
totally rethink the whole thing? >> they did promise to do it. promising it for seven years. in the republicans defense for not being able to just repeal, obamacare's the law of the land now. it's different to repeal something that hasn't taken place yet. especially when part of your critique of the law it was disruptive to people's health care. further you'd disrupt if you were to take that away. but i was thinking back to the very first day of this republican congress in january. i spoke to a republican source on the hill who said, you know, health care is the third rail of politics. anything we dou we'll own. politically bad. take the affordable care act and change the name of it. call it the republican affordable care act and pass that and then won't have disturbed the fabric of the universe. >> turns out health care is complicated. i heard someone say. who knew? up next, patch igeantpageantry. the president's latest foreign
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president trump winging westward again from europe. second time in five days but what a trip it was. there was very little work to do on this quick visit to paris. this trip to paris is all about the pageantry, parades, and one president rolling out a seriously red carpet for another, and the full guest of honor treatment. dinner literally inside the eiffel tower. a seat of honor to review the bastille day parade. smiles and then so many handshakes. we'll get to that in a moment. and the compliments on twitter after. great conversations with president emanuel macron, in this message, came with a picture. a great honor to represent the united states at the magnificent bastille day parade. congratulations, president emainwell macron. definitely a different feeling
in the air coming from this president, all things france. one gathers from his comments on the campaign they'll he'd not been too keen to visit that country. remember, his friend jim told him that france isn't france anymore. no one's able to locate jim, but that's another story. guys, i want to show, so we can see and dissect it and credit alissa spent six hours going every second of the handshake. take a look at the handshake between the two presidents, right there. it goes on. and it goes on. and it goes on. it morphs into that version of a handshake. there are other hands that are quickly brought into be a part of it. not just their own hands, but you need to add hands, to something so important. the reason we're talking about this, analyzing, one, because it's awesome. but, two, because it is a far cry from what we saw the first time the two presidents met. we have. we can show you that as well.
that famous grip and grin, where emmanuel macron first met president trump right there and clear he planned for it. he said he planned for this, wanted to show he could have the upper hand and not bullied by the u.s. president. you know, it's fun to watch. right? but it does show that these two have a relationship now that has evolved? >> well, and it underscores the way in which macron sees the importance of this idea of chemistry, how that is to donald trump. right? donald trump has talked about the way in which he's formed relationships with leaders, the chinese president, for example, and others. so you could see the way in which he was practicing this diplomacy and also that these are two men who are new to the political stage. as, in the governing realm and also a french president who wants to establish himself on the world stage, and sees this as an opportunity to do that. this is kind of his entree. >> and you have president
macron, seems to want to establish himself as a european trump whisperer. the leader in europe, talk to donald trump and get him to change his perspective. president trump spoke about paris, france, in flattering terms after saying it was a country he couldn't recognize anymore. lyn to what he said on the trip. >> this is one of the great cities, one of the most beautiful cities in the world, and you have a great leader now. you have a great president. you have a tough president. he's not going to be easy on people that are breaking the laws, and people that show this tremendous violence. se i really have a feeling th that -- you're going to have a very, very peaceful and beautiful paris. and i'm coming back. you better do a good job, please. otherwise, you're going to make me look very bad. >> molly, how does president macron get out of this? the president saying nice things about france after not saying
them during the campaign? >> that's the question. specific diplomatic objectives he's seeking and clearly has developed a view sort of to kaitlyn's point, the way to trump's heart is through flattering. that's a fair conclusion, based on his previous foreign trips. right? you saw the saudis, for example, really butter him up. he clearly loved that. he doesn't base his views on a set of white papers that he's received in the briefing books. he bases his opinions on the relationships he has with people. those first forr eforeign trips leaders rolling their eyes, trump reacts very badly to being disrespected. not saying that's why he would pull out of the paris climate accord, because he stood against it before, but i think macron decided if you can make trump think that you're his friend, you may even be ale to manipulate or win him over to your point of view. >> listen to what the president of the united states said about the paris accords when standing
right next to the french leader. >> something could happen rp to the paris accord. we'll see what happens. but we will talk about that over the coming period of time. and if it happens that will be wonderful. and if it doesn't, that will be okay, too. but we'll see what happens. >> look, you know, i seriously doubt that the president of the united states is all of a sudden decide he loves the paris accords, but it does show that he didn't want to show up the french leader standing beside him. >> one of the most fascinating moments of the whole thing. all of a sudden the paris accord and u.s. withdrawal was something to talk about and maybe a surprise. trump any a certain way. i think both leaders have a lot to gain from this. handshakes aside, went out of their way to make a big deal how buddy-buddy they were. trump wouldn't be the first president to go overseas during a time when things are tough at home. and for macron, merkel on one side, trump on the other. if he can be the guy who bridges the gap while the uk is somewhat
sis tracked from brexit a good role. someone trying to enhance france's role on the world stage, a good opportunity. >> interesting. the pled is flying home now, spending the weekend at his golf resort in bedminster. sometimes watch cable tv on air force one. what is he flying back to right now? so much has happened while he's been gone on this trip. a trip a lot of people saw as successful with the french leader, but what can he expect in the coming days? >> become a depressingly familiar routine for the white house. they pull off what they think is a couple good days, good news cycles and return to the russia cloud. it happened on his last trip, too, which people around the presidency thought it was a real high point. the speech in poland. held his own in the g-20. literally crafting a strategy to deal with the don junior russia e-mail story. and here again more developments on that front as he is literally in the air flying back to the united states. so i think that they feel good
about his performance there. but i think they also, one wonders how much it's really going to change anything for him politically. >> run out of french holidays. can't keep going back to paris for a good picture. that may be one of the problems. stick around, a rare show of bipartisanship. too bad it comes from two people not involved in politics anymore. this is politics according to president clinton and bush 43, next. um...i'm babysitting. that'll be $50 bucks. you said $30. yeah, well it was $30 before my fees, like the pizza-ordering fee and the dog-sitting fee... and the rummage through your closet fee. who is she, verizon? are those my heels? yeah! yeah, we're the same size...in shoes. with t-mobile taxes and fees are already included, so you get four lines of unlimited for just $40 bucks each. the price we say is the price you pay. the unpredictability of a flaree may weigh on your mind.
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if you want to be president, realize it's about the people, no the about you. and when it's over, and that's what a lot of these people who are real arrogant in office, they forget, time passes. and it passes more quicker, more quick lly than you know. you want to be able to say -- the people are better off when i quit. kids had a better future things were coming together. you don't want to say, god, look at all the people i beat. or the people i worked over. >> so -- they didn't mention anyone's name, jonathan, but i kind of have a sense of who bill clinton may have been talking about there. >> right. both presidents stressed virtues of humility, working for others, not making it about you and a parlance the current president is familiar with, felt like a large subtweet. didn't mention him by name, but
that was where the message was directed. >> george w. bush, largely the same message. listen who what he said. >> i think it starts with bill clinton being a person who prerefused to lord his victory over dad. in other words, he was humble in victory. very important in dealing with other people, and i think dad was willing to rise above the political contest. both men, in my judgment, displayed strong character, and, therefore, their friendship was able to be formed. >> you know, george w. bush talking how bill clinton and george h.w. bush became good friends, clinton didn't lord over his father. a loaded appearance. george w. bush's brother beating, both presidents, you know, they're watching the white house closely. >> of course they are. let's not forget, both former presidents bush did not vote for donald trump. it's been reported. so you know, this is the
personification of the sort of bipartisan establishment that was so against trump that was so convinced he couldn't win and now is so distressed by his behavior in office, and i think given that his whole campaign was premised on toppling this entire cabal, i don't think trump is listening to these gu s s. >> exactly right. what donald trump beat, willingly, gladly, what he ran against sitting on that stage right there true, and at events, easy to feel bipartisan and be chumming they're not in office. their presidencies weren't exactly golden eras of bipartisanship either's inpower, go on attack, seize attacks, and now retired sitting in nice, comfortable chairs, easier to walk about eloquently. >> and george w. bush talked how bill clinton never referred to his father. president obama often referred back to the bush years, the w. years economically.
>> we see now that trump is still talking about the obama administration. still continuing the campaign in many ways referring to hillary clinton at nearly every development of his russia scandal. i can't imagine trump and obama having this kind of scenario. >> no. that will be a remarkable thing to see. of course, president trump overseas talking about loretta lynch somehow responsible for the donald trump jr. meeting. thank you so much. and thank you all for joining us on "inside politics." jim sciutto in for wolf, up after a quick break.
hello. i'm jim sciutto in for wolf blitzer. 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 7:00 p.m. in paris, 8:00 p.m. in jerusalem. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. and we begin with breaking news surrounding a secret meeting last summer between trump campaign officials and a russian lawyer. telling cnn other people were there, in fact, besides those who previously had been disclosed. the associated press revealing today a russian lobbyist was