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the explosive revelation there was another russian in that meeting. >> i'm more than happy to cooperate with everyone. >> i never even spoke to anybody about russia. i never heard the word russia. >> this meeting is a very damaging revelation. i can see why they might want to cover it up. >> makes for a fascinating novel and a fascinating movie one day
but none of it violates the law. >> neighbors couldn't see the young boy entangled in a murder last week. >> it dragged the vehicle and the injured couple about a hundred yards. >> it was with standing up to 10 feet per hour swallowing nearly everything in its path. >> at 37 venus williams is back on top. she is poised to become the oldest woman's grand slam champion in the open era. >> this is "new day" weekend with victor blackwell and christie paul. >> good saturday morning to you. so grateful to have you with us here. first it was four, now it's eight, the story about donald trump jr.'s secret meeting seems to be changing. >> there were even more russians
in the room just days after he said he revealed everything. yesterday, he watched the u.s. women's open. this also comes on a pivotal weekend on one of his campaign promises to repeal and replace obamacare. the bill gets a cbo score next week but it could hinge on one more senator saying no. and at least eight people aend tended that meeting in russia. several more than donald trump jr. had disclosed. a lobbyist who one senator has accused of being soviet counter intelligence. >> reporter: the june 2016 meeting with donald trump jr., jared kushner and paul manafort.
russian american lobbiest told several media outlets that he was also in the meeting. he told reporters for the new york times and washington post that he's a veteran of the soviet army. senate judiciary chairman described him as one with ties to russian intelligence. someone alleged to have conducted political disinformation campaigns as part of a pro russia lobbying effort. >> plainly this russian attorney, this other third party, they were present, they were there to both deliver a message as well as to receive a message and plainly moscow only understood too well that this is conduct that the trump campaign would appreciate. >> he denied any links to the washington post saying at no time have i worked at the
russian government or any of its agencies. he also told the post he was born in russia and became a u.s. citizen in 2009. his lobbying effort which he did on behalf of the russian lawyer veselnitska veselnitskaya, a complaint filed claims the effort was on behalf of the kremlin. he has also been accused according to court papers filed in new york in 2015 of hacking on behalf of one company into the computer systems of a rival company to steal confidential information in a business dispute. the company, imr with drew the accusation soon after without providing a reason. in an earlier related case he denied a similar accusation saying in an affidavit quote, i am not a computer specialist and i am not capable of hacking. he was well known in washington for being connected to very
powerful people in russia, both in the business world there and in government and one more note, though he was born in russia he immigrated to the u.s. and is now a u.s. citizen and as a u.s. citizen he can be subpoenaed to testify before the investigating committees on the hill. cnn, washington. thank you. let's talk now with cnn political commentator, deputy editors at the weekly standard and cnn legal analyst. good morning to all of you and let me start with you. now we know there were eight people at this meeting which was not initially disclosed by donald trump jr. the significance of this rolling disclosure as we learn more day after day about this meeting. >> exactly. it seems like we're learning something new every day. i'm waiting for new revelations by the hour by the end of the weekend. and that is the problem. if nothing happened, if
everything was on the up and up why wasn't this disclosed immediately and why weren't the full details disclosed immediately? i recall donald trump jr. saying when this story first started coming out that i didn't know who was going to be at this meeting. then we find out in the e-mails that he had to have those names for security to let them into trump tower. then he said i didn't let jared kushner or paul manafort know what the substance of the meeting was going to be. but we know from the e-mail chain that said i have information from a russian government lawyer against hillary clinton. so the claim that he's being transparent is hard to believe because it proves he is inaccurate if not lying from the beginning. >> let's go to one person we've learned was in this meeting. this russian lobbyist, what's the significance of his addition
considering he wrote this letter back in april saying that he was someone alleged to have conducted political campaigns as part of a pro russia lobbying effort. >> that same letter alleges that he's affiliated with russian counterintelligence. of course he says that's not true, but these are questions that were asked long before the revelations of what is now i guess day eight of this latest sort of slap over what went on at this meeting so congress was already on to this gentleman. he himself has told the press that yes, i work for the russian government, i came out of the russian military, i was at the meeting and these are the kind of things that we talked about. more sort of logs adds to the fire and here again, you know, if we accept that everything we've heard, this shifting story has been inaccurate or untrue up until now, there's almost nothing that you can rely on from the white house and from
donald trump jr. about what else was going on at the time. you know, you closely read those e-mails and the reality is it looks like something much larger was going on of when this meeting is just a part. >> the group filed a complaint with the fcc alleging that the campaign violated campaign law by soliciting something of value here. is there a black and white answer to if there has been some violation of law or does it as most things do live in the gray? >> it lives in the gray and here's why. one of the applicable sections prohibits anything of value from a campaign from a foreign government and that foreign government is defined to include any foreign national, but it requires a thing of value. and yes, you can say theoretically information has value, but if you say that, then almost anything has value.
so the mere fact that two people meet with the idea that they could get information really doesn't go to the thing of value that was likely envisioned by campaign finance laws. when you also start talking about things like collusion and conspiracy, you know, these all require a lot of ifs at this point. as kelly said, this is a changing narrative and tomorrow may bring new facts that support some crime, but as long as everybody is talking about if this person was connected with russian government, if donald trump jr. knew, with all these ifs, those do not lead to probable cause or even a conviction and that's even under an expansive definition that you usually see in most federal criminal laws. >> i want you to listen to kellyanne conway on fox news talking about what she says is a moving goal post. >> well, even the goal posts have been moved.
we were promised hard evidence of systemic sustained collusion that not only interfered with our election process, but indeed dictated the electoral outcome. >> obviously a spin there from the white house but it was the white house who said there was absolutely no collusion at all, even saying it will remember the incoming vice president's interview with cbs saying there were no additional meeting with russia after the flynn revelation. >> i'm so glad you played that clip because i had tried to memorize her words because i wanted to bring them up and i was having trouble remembering exactly what she said but there it is. and you know what? the goal posts have been moved but she and the white house have moved them, not anybody else. you're right. they said from the beginning there was no collusion with russia. there was absolutely none at all. there were no more contacts than those we've mentioned. now she's saying actually it was
systemic furtive collusion. no, come on. they said from the beginning there was no collusion from the russian government and now you have an e-mail chain in which somebody tells the president's son that hey, we have someone from the russian government that wants to help him and he says i love it. i mean, how can you possibly say that when you said earlier there was no collusion, nothing to do with the russian, it's really quite ridiculous and it's amazing to me that this still going on and the reason it's still going on and it's because of those denials. >> the defenders have said that even up to this point he has been transparent. we're still learning more about this meeting, things that he did not say in the initial press release from his attorney. first, yahoo news is reporting that criminal defense attorney is joining the president's legal team and he's going to be answering questions about russia, but unlike some who are
defending the president he's going ton working in the white house as a white house staffer and not really reporting to the white house counsel. what's the significance of putting this attorney inside the white house? >> i think in a case like this the lawyers that are closer to and directly representing donald trump as a personalty relationship, they might be a slightly different procedure situation than an attorney who is directly retained by the white house, but practically speaking i don't think you're going to see a lot of difference. you may see a little more transparency from a white house lawyer than you might see from trump's private lawyer, especially one that he has used for many years, but i wouldn't expect too much difference in the narrative. i think we're going to see very similar sort of messages from each. >> all right. we've run out of time.
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as this incident is concerned this is all of it? >> this is everything. >> so fast forward to this morning and take a look at the list. we now know at least eight people were in that meeting including a woman who presented herself as a russian government lawyer and a russian american lobbyist there as well. the e-mails may have started the fire storm. he's not the one that ended up with a job at the white house though, that's jared kushner and now democrats are calling for his security clearance to be revoked now. >> not only will the russia investigation not go away, it is now circling closer and closer around someone who is described as very close to the president. inauguration week and the president's son-in-law files his first papers for security clearance on january 18th. jared kushner reveals no contact with any foreigners during the
campaign or transition, but the next day he says he hit that send button too soon and will amend that. in may according to his lawyer the papers are updated to show kushner had over 100 calls or meetings with representatives of more than 20 countries, most during the transition. by mid june as they prepare for congressional testimony, kush r kushner's lawyers say they discovered the e-mail from donald trump jr. setting up that meeting last year with russian lawyer veselnitskaya allegedly to get dirt on hillary clinton. kushner attended that meeting which donald jr. says was a bust. >> it went nowhere and it was apparent that's not what the meeting was about. >> on june 21st, kushner amended his security papers again to reflect his attendance at that meeting and according to a source close to kushner he said he was going to tell president trump. we don't know if he did. >> nothing happened from the
meeting. >> reporter: yet even as the president calls the russian lawyer meeting meaningless, he's also saying he learned about it only days ago. >> he was not aware of the meeting, did not attend the meeting and was only informed about the e-mail very recently by his counsel. >> reporter: kushner's late admission of that meeting has earned sharp interest in his contacts because as an advisor all meetings with foreigners must be listed. >> those meetings were conveniently forgotten by mr. kushner. >> the russian lawyer says neither kushner then trump campaign manager played much of a role. >>. >> translator: he was only one i was speaking to. >> reporter: but amid all the late revelations, democrats are fuming that kushner was given
security clearance at all. >> anybody else applying for a clearance under these facts would be denied that clearance. >> of the three representatives of donald trump known to be at that meeting with the russian lawyer, kushner is the only one who is now an official advisor to the president. that puts him squarely in the cross hairs of investigators looking to find out if anyone did anything illegal. >> we'll talk more about that next hour. the trump administration's election integrity commission attempting to respond to concerns over potentially releasing sensitive information of likely voter just released sensitive personal information. last month the commission asked every state for a complete list of voter information. here is some of the criteria. the affiliation there, addresses, last four digits of the social security number. some outrage expressed concerns their information would be made public. the commission then posted those
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trump's support. >> reporter: under the trump administration stricter visa authorities officials turned down requests from the afghan team. >> translator: we're disappointed when the americans made a difference not issuing visas to us. at that time we lost hope and we were feeling sad. >> reporter: they urged the state department to reconsider and thursday visas in hand the six girls began their long journey to washington where they will become the first robotics team to represent their war torn country overseas. trump's daughter ivanka were among those to cheer the reversal. now these teams will get a chance to show off their hard work. this robot which they built i
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behind us. i was impressed by that. her wins are coming as she faces challenges on and off the court. here's christina mcfarland. >> reporter: at 37 venus williams is back on top, striding into center court saturday hoping for her sixth wimbledon's singles title she's poised to become the oldest woman grand slam champion. >> i feel quite capable, to be honest, and powerful. i have an opportunity to bank on experience in having dealt with those sort of pressures before. >> perhaps it's that experience that has allowed williams to stay focused on her game despite emotional turmoil heading into the tournament. in june she was involved in a tragic car accident in florida that led to the death of 78-year-old. his family filing a wrongful
death suit against the tennis champion. the initial police report found her at fault but surveillance video found police to revise their findings. williams shared her sadness on her official facebook page. i'm devastated and heart broken by this accident. my heart felt condolences go out and i continue to keep them in my thoughts and prayers. when asked about the incident following her first round wimbledon win, she broke down. williams regained her compose sure, channelling her energy on to the court beating a much younger opponent, three of whom were born the year she debuted at wimbledon. it's not the first time she's had to transcend pain to compete. after years of battling fatigue, williams was diagnosed with the auto immune disease in 2011. many thought it meant the end of
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again. >> let's turn to the men's turn tournament now. federer steam rolling himself to the finals. >> tell us more about what is expected there today. i mean, do we really believe he can pull this off? >> reporter: well, it's going to be a great match. when you're talking about the wimbledon, you're thinking about the biggest tennis tournament in the world. you'll hear about wimbledon, you know who's going to win the title. in terms of what's at stake, venus playing in that final, 37 years of age, including that title. she hasn't won a grand slam title since 2009 so this could be massive for her. if she is able to do it she would become the oldest player on the women's side to win a grand slam title. she does have a 3-1 record
against the player she's facing muguruza. so i think one thing that's important to mention is that venus has lost eight grand slam finals but in seven of them it's been serena on the other side of the net. this would be the opportunity to get that grand slam title. >> and roger federer heading toward his eighth final tomorrow i think it is. yeah, sunday. his chances looking pretty good? >> yeah, i mean, roger is playing so well, he was the favorite going in and he became more of the favorite after some of his rivals lost. you think of what he's done in this tournament, 11 finals. if he wins tomorrow he's playing cilic, he'd be the first man to win eight wimbledon titles but i
don't think it's a foregone conclusion. when they met her last year, match points on federer, he came back from two sets down to win and also cilic has beaten him at a grand slam at the u.s. open in 201 2014 but one thing is for sure. tomorrow the fans will be so behind federer. he's the fan favorite. >> that's what i was asking you about. there are so many tennis fans in the world but they rarely get to go and watch. how much does the support in the stands even though you've got to be kwquiet, do you feel that energy? does it make a difference to who's playing? >> i think it does make a difference. that's something federer has talked about. he missed the last six months of last season because of a knee injury and he came back after that. he's 35 years old. one of the reasons he came back
is because he loves competing around the world, because he gets so much great support from everybody who watches him play. and that includes you know, some of his great rivals when he takes on nadal or murray and it's because not only of the way he plays which is such a graceful artistic game but also of what he does and he's a fluid player and so popular. >> interesting. so good to have you with us this morning. thank you. all right. it was, people, a selfie gone wrong. can you believe this? hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of art sculptures damaged when a woman tries to take the perfect photo of herself at an art exhibit. ugh, no bars.
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>> reporter: president trump got the royal treatment whether he was wringing the hand of the first lady of france or complimenting her physique. or getting chummy with her husband, the president, somebody was missing. jim. >> a friend of mine. he's a very, very substantial guy. he love it is city of lights. he's told me for years paris. >> let me ask you a question, how is paris doing? >> paris? i don't go there anymore. paris is no longer paris. >> france is no longer france. >> reporter: he talked about jim so often trying to make the point that france had succumbed to terrorism that the new yorkers started hunting for jim in vain. he inspired means and tweets like just hanging out with hashtag jim but when the white house refused to say whether jim actually exists, thus was born
jim, the president's imaginary friend. the view dedicated a photo album to jim. a french reporter brought him up at the joint press conference. >> you've mentioned a friend, jim, we told you that paris is no longer paris. >> that's a beauty. you know what? it's going to be just fine because you have a great president. >> reporter: if jim were imaginary it won't be the first time that an invisible character has entered the political fray, would it? >> what do you mean shut up? >> clint eastwood wowed the republican convention with an imaginary barack obama. >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. >> reporter: judging from their body language, donald trump's imaginary friend didn't get
between the two presidents. >> what about jim? they're making him jealous. >> france is no longer france. >> reporter: new york. >> they won't like for me saying that. >> all right. a selfie gone wrong here. a woman trying to take a picture at a los angeles art gallery triggers a domino effect. >> causes $200,000 in damage to the exhibit. at least 11 sculptures were damaged. when a woman accidently knocked one over. it damaged several sculpted crowns and others. >> a few years ago when there was video of the girls dancing and her shirt caught fire, and everyone went nuts over it? i'm calling shenanigans on this, we'll see.